In a nutshell, this is why Trump can never be and will never be accepted by a majority of Americans. 

Trumpsters say "why can't you accept he won the election and is president?"

This is why. 

What a weak and lame article based on nothing but lie after lie after lie.

The majority of Americans have accepted him and the agenda he represents.

An even greater majority will reelect him. The left wing obsessives have told nothing but lies about him and he still keeps winning

I can't think of one lie he has told because I don't give a crap about such trivia.

The majority of Americans don't either. All the progressives can do is bark at the moon and otherwise make a lot of noise.

The majority of Americans have accepted him and the agenda he represents.

Total nonsense. He has never had a majority of Americans support him. 

That's not true.

A majority elected him in the first place.

All those bogus votes for HRC don't count.

'The majority of Americans have accepted him and the agenda he represents.'

Nope, that would be the 35% who are Rump supporters.

He's never had a majority, NEVER.  

'All those bogus votes for HRC don't count.'

Of course not!  Those three million votes!  

You learn well from your master, keep lying to yourself.

When did that happen?

The majority of Americans have accepted him and the agenda he represents.

Horse muffins.  His current approval rating is 34%.  So much for your majority rationale.

Still trust polls?

Thought everyone would have learned after Hillary lost to Trump.

Polls can say anything the pollsters want them to.  Just use slanted questions, over poll a selected demographic, and finally take it as gospel that people aren't lying.

Nice try.  If the polls said his AR was 80 percent, you would be dancing in the aisle.   Your golden boy is little more than iron pyrite.

What a weak and lame article based on nothing but lie after lie after lie.

Well, you nailed it. Trump is literally one lie after another. Even fox news has said, "Trump has a complicated relationship with the truth". 

Trumpsters say "why can't you accept he won the election and is president?" This is why. 

That's just bullshit.  When he does say things that are true, liberals everywhere scream, yell, weep and protest.

If every word that proceeded out of his mouth were true, you'd still hate him.  Probably more.

When has the turd told the truth?  About anything?

'when he tells the truth.'

When has the turd done that?  

When has the turd done that?

Truth:  He's a famous billionaire with a history of trading in trophy wives for younger models.  There are a number of women who will let him grab anything.

Truth:  There is a problem at the Mexican border and some of those people are in fact criminals.

Truth:  Unemployment is at it's lowest in 50 years.

The billionaire part is a lie.  

I love your abridged version of the 'truth'.  HIlarious.  

 Unemployment is at it's lowest in 50 years.

 Under Trump, more than 93,000 jobs have been certified by the Department of Labor as lost to outsourcing or trade competition.  Just ask Carrier and Harley Davidson.

Those are not comments made by trmp

Under Trump, more than 93,000 jobs have been certified by the Department of Labor as lost to outsourcing or trade competition

lose some and gain even more.  that is the way it goes.  and does not change the fact that unemployment is at historic lows across the board.

the shift from globalism to nationalism will create some bumps and bruises along the way as with any major shift like that, it is expected. but OUR country is already doing better and this is just the beginning.

our country was held back for near 60yrs by globalism.

it will take more than a minute to catch up with that much lost time.

So because companies closed plants, we should simply ignore the data showing lowest unemployment in 50 years?

Under Trump, more than 93,000 jobs have been certified by the Department of Labor as lost to outsourcing or trade competition.  Just ask Carrier and Harley Davidson.

At a 3.6% unemployment rate if someone does not have a job it because they don't want one.

At a 3.6% unemployment rate if someone does not have a job it because they don't want one.

I believe that 100%.

We can not hire and keep enough workers.

Under Trump, more than 93,000 jobs have been certified by the Department of Labor as lost to outsourcing or trade competition.  Just ask Carrier and Harley Davidson.

It's probably more than that.  You're citing a 2017 statistic. 

That does not address the fact that we've added 5.4 million jobs with Trump in the WH , including a quarter million in April.  It also does not address the fact that wage growth is stronger than under the previous president. 

That's not to say Trump is a better president than Obama was.  I don't believe that's the case.  It simply points out that the facts indicate he's not nearly the catastrophe that liberals try to convince everyone he is.

I had very similar conversations 8 years ago with my friends who were rabidly anti-Obama.  It's a fascinating bit of deja-vu.

At a 3.6% unemployment rate if someone does not have a job it because they don't want one.

Not at all.

Lots of people don't have jobs because our public school system patted them on the head and gave them a diploma so they would "feel good" about themselves.  Now they're stuck unless they're strong enough to dig ditches or load boxes, because they're too ignorant to be of any use in an office.

Those are not comments made by trmp

I don't generally speak as crudely as Trump.

But if you're going to press the issue.... when he said "you can grab them by the pussy"... he was telling the truth.

When he said “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,”... that was true.  You don't find Mexican dentists or PhD's crossing the river in the middle of the night.

When he tweeted "African American unemployment is the lowest ever recorded in our country." ...that was actually true.

When he said Haiti is a "shithole country", that was accurate.  NBC News, attempting to counter Trump's statement, did a photo essay on Haiti the next day.  They included a photo with a beautiful little Haitian girl jumping over a puddle of raw sewage in the street on her way to school.

Donald Trump is rude, crude, boorish, contemptible and without character.  He prevaricates and exaggerates frequently.  However the idea that he never tells the truth is idiotic.  Further, the things he says that are most objectionable to liberals are not the lies he tells but the unhappy truths they don't want to hear.

When he does say things that are true, liberals everywhere scream, yell, weep and protest.

That's and extraordinarily rare event. Trump lies constantly, that's a fact. I mean, if you do a comparison, trump lies more than Hillary, GWB and Obama combined. But here is the real question, Jack...

How much do you believe trump? Do you believe him because what he tells you is something you want to hear? Or do you believe what he says because you want to believe what he says is the truth?

I get it....all politicians lie, we expect that but if we are going to compare them?

Obama: 26% lies.

Hillary: 41% lies.

Trump: 83% lies. 

In no way, none, can you claim trump lies less than any....ANY politician.... When it comes to lying, trump is in a league all his own.... 

So tell me, why do you believe ANYTHING trump says? 

How much do you believe trump?

Not at all.  But I never have.  He's a NY real estate developer.  He's been full of shit since the 1970s. 

Do you believe him because what he tells you is something you want to hear? Or do you believe what he says because you want to believe what he says is the truth?

Why do you presume I believe him?   I am the vanguard and archetype of Generation X.  I grew up during Watergate. I don't believe anybody, least of all politicians.

I get it....all politicians lie, we expect that but if we are going to compare them?

My point exactly. All politicians lie.  All of these people who have spent the last 2+ years in a seemingly constant state of hysteria squealing about how "Trump lies" are just pathetic. 

News flash folks...you've all been lied to before....all of your lives.  You survived it quite well.  You just didn't mind because the liars in question didn't hurt your "feelings" so much.  Grow up, grow a spine, and get on with your lives.

You survived it quite well.  You just didn't mind because the liars in question didn't hurt your "feelings" so much.  Grow up, grow a spine, and get on with your lives.

what if we're coruscations with many frustrations due to the fact that you're patheticisim ,

is that which an equal, cannot be drawn, of butter than a marginal prawn, as in a pawn, as U rook your bishop polished, and bow to a Queen of who would be King, if we had you to stand up to a would be Dick

'tator , u wood suck like a full lipped fish, as u can, and will not, compare Trumpp to others...

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John, seems like no matter what anyone says your hatred of Trump and the conservative right is so great you would never believe a single positive thing about Trump anyway. So why bother. You go out of your way to refute things, and then get highly upset when others do not share your views. I am not a Trump supporter and did not vote for him, but I refuse to lay all the problems with this country at his feet and those of the right  like you do while giving the progressive left a free pass. My apologies if I offend, but this is just my opinion whether it is worth anything or not. Have a good day.

What exactly has Trump done well, and what did progressives get a free pass on?   Just curious.

I never said he did things well so you are asking a loaded question and you know it. As far as the liberals getting a free pass just read the current headlines for yourself.  You want examples, just read about the antics of the comedy team of AOC and Omar, and others. I won't do your homework for you. Have a good evening.

never believe a single positive thing about Trump anyway.

I was referring to this sentence and want to know a positive thing about Trump. 

One thing comes to mind. President Trump has made sweeping recommendations and changes to the current VA system to improve care for vets and revamp and speed up claims.

He also wants to make budget cuts to the VA.  Any cuts to the VA budget and its increases are bad.  We've had decades of wars and need more money, not less.  My son is a veteran and doesn't support Trump at all.  And they want to begin privatization, which would be the worst possible long  term idea.  I'm not against letting vets get care outside the system at all.  But all war related injuries must be monitored for specific types of problems and care.  But I appreciate the example, you bring up a rare example of at least saying  something I can agree needs done.  You might be the first.

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And they want to begin privatization, which would be the worst possible long  term idea.

Privatization began in 2014 when Obama was POTUS.  My husband was eligible for the program and never enrolled because I was skeptical and disapproving of the push to privatize VA services by anyone whether they were Democrat or Republican.   I would have been ranting against the policy if I had been aware that it was based on creating  middleman corporations that received $295 or more for each doctor's appointment scheduled.  Where the HELL are the financial watchdogs that should be overseeing this type of waste?  I am positively overjoyed that at least Trump is receiving the scrutiny that was omitted when this program was vetted and passed under Obama.

My motto is:  ALWAYS follow the MONEY.  Maybe more people are adhering to this motto and that is one of the reasons that there is a rise in the number of people who identify as Independents.

psmag

Since 2014, 1.9 million former service members have received private medical care through a program called Veterans Choice. It was supposed to give veterans a way around long wait times in the VA. But their average waits using the Choice Program were still longer than allowed by law, according to examinations by the VA inspector general and the Government Accountability Office. The watchdogs also found widespread blunders, such as booking a veteran in Idaho with a doctor in New York and telling a Florida veteran to see a specialist in California. Once, the VA referred a veteran to the Choice Program to see a urologist, but instead he got an appointment with a neurologist.

The winners have been two private companies hired to run the program, which began under the Obama administration and is poised to grow significantly under Trump. ProPublica and PolitiFact obtained VA data showing how much the agency has paid in medical claims and administrative fees for the Choice Program. Since 2014, the two companies have been paid nearly $2 billion for overhead, including profit. That's about 24 percent of the companies' total program expenses—a rate that would exceed the federal cap that governs how much most insurance plans can spend on administration in the private sector.

According to the agency's inspector general, the VA was paying the contractors at least $295 every time it authorized private care for a veteran. The fee was so high because the VA hurriedly launched the Choice Program as a short-term response to a crisis. Four years later, the fee never subsided—it went up to as much as $318 per referral.

"This is what happens when people try and privatize the VA," Senator Jon Tester of Montana, the ranking Democrat on the Senate veterans committee, said in a statement responding to these findings. "The VA has an obligation to taxpayers to spend its limited resources on caring for veterans, not paying excessive fees to a government contractor. When VA does need the help of a middleman, it needs to do a better job of holding contractors accountable for missing the mark."

Totally agree, and I've also been against it no matter who tries to do it.  There are some instances where distance is a factor accommodations can be made, but to get the best treatment for war injuries, the VA needs all the resources.  Private contractors suck the money and the care goes down for profit.  We have the same 'follow the money' motto too. 

More fake news from JR. A story from Wapo ? Is it possible to get you info from a more biased left wing rag? 

Date
Trump comment
Washington Post explanation
MarketWatch explanation
4/27/19
“We have cut 30,000 pages of job killing regulations from the Federal Register. That’s an all-time record. It’s never happened before.”
This is a nonsense statistic, as counting pages tells you next to nothing about the impact of a regulation.
Perhaps “nonsense” but it appears to be accurate.
4/27/19
“In my first 100 days in office, I traveled to this very state to sign an executive order declaring that we will live by two simple rules: buy American and hire American right here in Wisconsin.
Trump says his administration believes in “buy American, hire American.” But Trump has a long history of outsourcing a variety of his own products.
He did sign the order, and the fact Trump’s personal track record doesn’t live up to that is irrelevant. If anything, it *supports* his order, since in theory it would force reluctant businesspeople like himself to buy and hire American.
4/24/19
“These newly employed citizens are joining 5.5 million more workers who have found jobs since the election.”
Trump often inflates the number of jobs created under his presidency by counting from Election Day, rather than when he took the oath of office. There have been about 4.9 million jobs created since January 2017, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Job growth under Trump in the first two years was little different than Obama’s last two years.
Trump literally said, “since the election.”
4/18/19
“And with Bernie’s, you know, they want to take the wealth that all of the people have made, 401(k)s you have 401(k)s, we all have 401(k)s and they’re at record levels, they’ve done better than they’ve ever done, they want to just dissipate it.”
This is not Bernie Sanders’s plan. The senator has proposed an expansion of Social Security, not an end to 401(k) plans.
Sanders repeatedly talks about desire for corporate taxes to rise. If successful, of course that would hurt 401(k) values. That Sanders doesn’t favor repeal of the tax wrapper isn’t what Trump is getting at.
4/17/19
“Since we passed our historic tax cuts and reforms just over one year ago, wages are rising fast, and they’re rising most quickly for the lowest-income Americans.”
Wages grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in December, but wage growth was consistently higher before 2009. Still, Goldman Sachs found that for the first during an economic recovery that began in mid-2009 that the bottom half of earners are benefiting more than the top half. Whether that can be attributed to the tax cut is unclear.
Not only are wages growing the fastest since the recession, they are fastest for lower-income workers. The cause-and-effect of tax cuts and wage growth is unclear but not definitely wrong.
4/12/19
“By the end of this year, the United States will have 92 5G deployments in markets nationwide. The next nearest country, South Korea, will have 48. So we have 92, compared to 48. And we’re going to accelerate that pace greatly.”
The U.S. is on track to have the most deployments, but according to a report from CTIA, China and others are “ahead in making critical mid-band spectrum available for 5G” and are already conducting “large-scale 5G trails across the country” because of their infrastructure advantage.
The Washington Post’s own analysis says the Trump comment was true!
4/6/19
“When I spoke to you as a candidate three years ago, America’s economy was stagnant.”
This is wrong. Many of the positive economic trends Trump regularly references started under the Obama administration.
Average GDP growth rate last nine quarters has been 2.8%. Average growth rate the prior nine quarters was 2%.
4/27/19
“Remember, President Obama said manufacturing jobs are gone. You need a wand, a magic wand. We found the magic wand because they’re coming and they’re coming fast.”
Trump is misquoting Obama. The former president said in a June 2016 townhall, that “you’re actually seeing some manufacturers coming back to the United States” but that alone won’t help workers whose jobs had been previously outsourced and so “what we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now.” The “magic wand” referred to recreating jobs of the past through negotiating “a better deal.”
Manufacturing jobs growth has been stronger during Trump administration than Obama’s, even with recent tailing off.
4/27/19
“The unemployment rates for African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans and Asian-Americans have all reached their lowest levels in the history of our country.”
“The current African American unemployment statistic has been in existence for less than 50 years. It reached a low of 5.9% in May 2018, but rose to 6.7% in March. An older set of government data suggests black unemployment went much lower in the 1950s. The Asian-American statistic has been around for less than 20 years. And while it reached a low of 2.0% rate in May 2018, it rose to 3.0% in March, the most recent month available. Hispanic unemployment has also rebounded. Lately, Trump has been using the word “reached,” perhaps to indicate the lows are in the past.”
The lowest levels in recorded history, yes. His inclusion of the word “reached” makes it accurate. Moreover, the Washington Post is essentially dinging him for comparisons to economic performance in his own administration.
4/24/19
“People that graduate without a high school diploma -- it’s a big group -- lowest in the history of our country.”
This dataset has only be recorded since 1992, so Trump has no basis to claim the “history of our country.” The unemployment rate for high school dropouts reached a low of 5.0% in July 2018, but by the time Trump made this statement it had risen to 5.9%, a figure last reached in 2000.
Lowest in recorded history, and still better now than before the Trump administration.
4/15/19
“So we have low-income and distressed communities, and they’re getting a tremendous incentive to have a lot of money going to those communities. And it’s having a very, very big effect. It’s been great.”
The impact of the Opportunity Zones is not yet clear, according to the Tax Foundation. This is in part because key data collection requirements that would be needed to assess the progress were stripped from the final version of the bill.
It is difficult to tell at this stage. The White House says counties with a large presence of zones had annualized wage growth of 8% in Q2 and Q3 2018, and it says property values in zones have climbed 20%, citing Zillow data. So it’s a defendable claim even if there does need to be more examination.
3/28/19
“The economy is roaring.”
The economy appears to be slowing. The growth rate for the gross domestic product was 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018, 3.4% in the third quarter and 2.2% in the fourth quarter.
“Roaring” is subjective but not false with low unemployment, high GDP.

marketwatch

Courier Journal- " LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to  [...]"

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I'd say it was the left wing media that told us 10,000 lies.

Some of the biggest woppers:

1) Trump conspired with the Russians

2) Hillary Clinton was innocent

3) The crisis on the border is manufactured

4) Michael Brown had his hands up

5) There is no spying on Americans (Barak Obama & the MSM)

6)  "Common Core provides your child with a quality, historically-accurate education."

7) " Several viral videos show the young men, nearly all of whom are white and wearing pro-Trump gear, chanting at and mocking the man on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial."

8) AG Barr mischaracterized the Mueller Report

9) " late-term abortions “mostly happen because of a serious fetal anomaly or for the health of the woman.”

10) The Steele Dossier was not used to get a FISA Warrant

Ironic  this story lies and mispresente the opinions of the Washington Post way to slur trump

"Lies" is a shorthand for lies, falsehoods , misstatements and Trumpian nonsense.   The "10,000" total does include reruns. In other words if he tells some lie about Hillary or something, and then he repeats the same lie a couple months later, it is counted twice, as it should be. 

There are numerous instances of Trump being corrected about a lie he told, and the correction being all over the news, and then at his next rally or unhinged rant he tells the same lie all over again. 

The reason why we are in a "war" in this country is because people like you want to normalize this travesty. 

ies" is a shorthand for lies, 

The factchecker explicitly denies he's documented 10,000 "lies." 

"factchekcing" is PT Barnum's schtick for the 21st century. Sad anyone takes it seriously.  In this case, it's a liberal pundit dressing up his preferred opinions as "facts" and attacking an opponent for not putting his preferred spin on it.  There was an article the other week by an economist who examined the most recent 100 documented "lies" on the economy and found a significant number of Trump's statements were absolutely true or defensible. The factchecker simply didn't like the Trump didn't include the Democrats preferred spin.

One statement was about an executive order statement Trump issued. Trump accurately described the contents of the order, but the "factchecker" opined it was misleading because in a discussion about a Presidential act,  Trump didn't include derogatory information about his behavior as a private citizen before he was President.  Accurate statements count as lies in the bizarro liberal world.  

Any President or politician can be similarly attacked by a pundit from the opposing camp under these nonsensical standards.  Imagine the amount of "lies" Obama said if Michelle Malkin gets to decide if Obama put his statements in the proper context. 

Sean, Trump is a pathological liar.   Pick up a biography of him from 20 or 30 years ago and you will see the same thing.  I don't care if it is 10,000 lies or 6,000 lies, he is a constant liar.  In a sane world, that would disqualify him to lead America. But you guys gave up on sanity when you nominated him for president. 

Trump tells lies even after they have been proven to be lies.  He repeats things that have already been publicly debunked. It's embarrassing for our country to have to watch this happening for four or five years. 

Stooping to calling accurate  statements lies isn't any better than what you accuse Trump of.

It's 2016 all over again, when you support a congenital liar, how can you be surprised others vote for a different liar? 

You mouth the banalities of the discredited. 

Look at the writer of the seeded article. I don't know of him, but I doubt if he is a left winger. He is a columnist for a normal mainstream city newspaper, The Louisville Courier-Journal, a newspaper that is 150 years old and the largest news organization in Kentucky. 

His columns are often from a center left perspective but not radical or "leftist". He is a normal American. 

He sees the diseased nature of Trump and his presidency. As did all of the 5 or 6 books that exposed the daily dysfunction in Trump and his White House. 

I have accepted that we are in a war with Trumpism, and we have to see it as that and act accordingly. Good people need to take their country back from Trumpism. End of story. 

'That's another example of something I have been forced to accept as normal behavior in the leftist camp.  So often now when I witness Democrats accusing the opposition of something I can almost be certain they are engaging in that same behavior themselves.  The examples are just numerous to ignore anymore. Accusations of racism, bigotry, hate, collusion, obstruction of justice, extremism, lying, underminging Democracy (yesterday's theme).  All of it could be summed up as PROJECTION.'

Which is exactly what the 'right' is guilty of.  PROJECTION

The reason why we are in a "war" in this country is because people like you want to normalize this travesty. 

The Washington Post style response to this statement works like this:

Well, we aren't at war. No war has been declared by Congress and they are the only ones with the power to declare war. Therefore, you're lying.

Even if we were to accept the idea that "war" is used metaphorically to describe a conflict, that would imply that there are two clear sides which are in conflict with one another. However recent polls indicate a growing independent group in the electorate so if anyone is at war it may only be the extreme fringes of the Left and Right. It's simply not accurate to say "this country" is at war. And so, again, you are lying.

Finally, even if you want to accept the idea of a war, the phrasing "the reason why we are at war" strongly implies that this is the one and only reason why there is conflict and even a casual analysis could generate multiple reasons. Therefore, this is misleading and incomplete and you are lying.

That's three lies in just the one sentence. That's how the Washington Post Fact Checker works.

Try to compare the lies from Obama and Trump.   I look forward to that.  I've never in my life seen a person lie like Trump  Ever.  So get ready to research lies.  Since the gop has been going after dems for decades, I'm sure they have all the Obama material there is.  lol  have fun.

Try to compare the lies from Obama and Trump. 

You're just going to hear the "If you like your doctor, you can keep them" over and over and over. It's pretty much all they have. With Trump it's easier to list the rare instances of truth he's told than it is to try and detail his voluminous list of lies.

Try to compare the lies from Obama and Trump.  

When you define "lies" like liberal fact checkers do, it's easy. Just take any statement Obama makes on any subject and if he doesn't frame it exactly as how I would, he's lying. Pretty much every statement Obama ever made on the economy would be a "lie" under the standard the Post holds Trump to.

Lol, so, you've got nothin'.  Just want to throw out ..... another lie about Trump's lies. 

But feel free to leave out economic statements if you can't wade through it all.  Pick any area and compare.

I will gladly take Trumps lies and booming economy over a socialist shill and a stagnant economy. Of course those that are takers would rather have a POS like obama  giving them handouts. FYI under President Trump people reliant on SNAP have declined by the millions from obama's  historically high numbers. Of course in the land of Unicorns farting rainbows that is a bad thing.

Oh, look someone who forgot when Obama came into office and the deep recession he had to get us through.   Trump did nothing but jump on the Obama train.  You want to see what Trump really did?  Look at trade stats and the deficit after those tax cuts to the top.  I didn't post those but will if you want me to.

I will gladly take Trumps lies and booming economy over a socialist shill and a stagnant economy.

Stagnant: adjective - showing no activity

Under Obama we saw the GDP go from NEGATIVE 2.5% and when Obama left it was growing at +2.5% (with numerous over 4% growth quarters) which equals a +5% GDP change over 8 years. Since Trump has taken office the GDP has increased by .7% to 3.2% average.

The annual deficit handed to Obama was $1.4 TRILLION and he reduced it by 55%. Since Trump took office he's increased annual deficit spending by 40%.

National unemployment was 10.2% and Obama cut it to 4.7% before leaving office, a drop of 5.5%. Since trump took office unemployment has dropped 1.1%.

Now, I'm all for the continued success started under President Obama, but anyone who thinks the economy was "stagnant" during his two terms have their heads on backwards.

But feel free to leave out economic statements if you can't wade through it all.  Pi

I don't think you understand what's happening.

Let me make it very simple for you. The standard for "lying" employed by the Post means pretty much any statement can call be called a "lie,"even when factually accurate.  Thus pretty much any statement Obama made could be judged a lie if the pundit doing the judging prefers different context.

Here's an example:

Pick a statement where Barack Obama cherry picks a state about the economy when he was President.

Fact checker: Obama's cherry picked statement is technically true, but he left out that the economic recovery from the recession was the worst in American history since the Depression, so we give him 2 Pinocchios. 

If you can't see how fact checkers like the Post manipulate facts to claim someone is lying, you need to brush up on your critical reading skills. 

nyone who thinks the economy was "stagnant" during his two terms have their heads on backwards.

The worst "recovery" from a recession since the Great Depression.  Pre-Obama, the rule of thumb was the sharper the recession, the better the recovery.    An empty chair as President who did nothing would have generated better economic numbers. 

The worst "recovery" from a recession since the Great Depression.

It was the worst recession since the Great depression. The whole bullshit idea of "Well the recovery should have been faster" is so fucking stupid it's truly mind blowing. A Republican President had run up our deficit and thrown $6 trillion in tax cuts to the top 1% falsely inflating the economy while essentially legalizing banks gambling with government guaranteed mortgagees, the economy tanked, the housing bubble burst and without the actions taken by the Obama administration things could have gotten much, much worse. But now we have ungrateful whiners, who strangely appear to be exclusively non-college graduate rural whites, complaining about how things didn't recover "fast enough" without a single fucking word of appreciation for a GDP not dropping like a stone like the Republican President had left it. I see the angry vitriol spit through near foaming mouths at Obama even now two years after his Presidency and I simply can't see how his actual record deserves such unreasoning hate. I can but conclude that it has far more to do with his surface than his substance.

It was the worst recession since the Great depression. The whole bullshit idea of "Well the recovery should have been faster" is so fucking stupid it's truly mind blowing.

Meh.  It could have been faster, but not much, and the slow and steady groundwork has been more beneficial.

A Republican President had run up our deficit and thrown $6 trillion in tax cuts to the top 1% falsely inflating the economy while essentially legalizing banks gambling with government guaranteed mortgagees, the economy tanked, the housing bubble burst and without the actions taken by the Obama administration things could have gotten much, much worse.

The legalized gambling was enabled under the Clinton Administration. Democrats shouted from the rafters that tax cuts don't stimulate the economy, and there is evidence to support that.  The Obama Administration acted wisely, but their initial actions continued the actions of the Bush Administration.

But now we have ungrateful whiners, who strangely appear to be exclusively non-college graduate rural whites, complaining about how things didn't recover "fast enough" without a single fucking word of appreciation for a GDP not dropping like a stone like the Republican President had left it.

In the same way we have emotional liberals unable to admit that any Democrat has ever made a mistake and thus attempt to recreate history to suit their "feelings".

I see the angry vitriol spit through near foaming mouths at Obama even now two years after his Presidency and I simply can't see how his actual record deserves such unreasoning hate. I can but conclude that it has far more to do with his surface than his substance.

A president cannot tell half the country to go fuck themselves and expect them to accept it.  That was true for Obama and it is true for Trump. 

When you define "lies" like liberal fact checkers do, it's easy.

You can try to spin "facts and lies" as being partisan, but reality is that lies are lies, and facts are fact.... Really not that hard...

You can't compare lies because you know how it will come out.  Maybe try not being simple next time making an inane little comparison about stats and look at bodies of lies.  Or compare Pinocchios.  You won't even try, and we all know why.   Go for it man, and don't keep it simple, make it real and substantial. 

he whole bullshit idea of "Well the recovery should have been faster" is so fucking stupid it's truly mind blowing.

I'm sorry you find basic economic history "mind blowing."

ubble burst and without the actions taken by the Obama administration things could have gotten much, much worse

Don't be silly. The heavy lifting was done by the time Obama was sworn in.

hiners, who strangely appear to be exclusively non-college graduate rural whites, complaining about how things didn't recover "fast enough" 

Such anger and ignorance combined. You must be a delight at parties!

ow two years after his Presidency and I simply can't see how his actual record deserves such unreasoning hate.

Pointing out facts is unreasoning hate?  Wow

You can try to spin "facts and lies" as being partisan, but reality is that lies are lies, and facts are fact.... Really not that hard..

I'm not spinning anything. The fact checker himself admits that he will interpret facts as being "misleading" which in turn gets spun by liberals as "lies."

What that economic lilliputian obama did was create as many headwinds as he could for an economic recovery.  And we are still paying the price for his fukwadism.

Instead of kissing Trumps wide butt, for no rational reason, you should be kicking it and asking him "Why the hell aren't you doing as well as that good President we had who I despised so much?!!  You're making my 8 years of vitriolic hate just look stupid!"

Trump tracker: How his first two years have gone - in eight graphics

How has the economy fared under Trump?

During the campaign, Mr Trump vowed to create 25 million jobs over 10 years and become "the greatest jobs president... ever".

He used to claim the actual unemployment rate was more than 40%. Now he's America's CEO, he's embracing the same jobless figures he once dismissed as "phony".

Those figures do show, though, that job creation under Mr Trump during his first two years in office fell slightly when compared to President Obama's final two.

However, the basic trajectory of the economy under President Trump remains the same as it was under President Obama - the unemployment rate is historically low and wages are growing at a faster rate in recent months.

But there are some concerns for Mr Trump. Global economic growth is down and his decision to start a trade war with China led to retaliatory tariffs on US goods worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

The president has been quick to take credit for booming stock markets over the past couple of years, but they have started to wobble in recent weeks.

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US job growth remains strong and steady in April

As for the political implications, Donald Trump has now been in office for 27 full months – February 2017 through April 2019 – and in that time, the economy has created 5.4 million jobs. In the 27 full months preceding Trump’s presidency – November 2014 to January 2017 – the economy created 5.85 million jobs. The White House has not yet offered an explanation for why job growth has slowed since Trump took office.

You're making my 8 years of vitriolic hate just look stupid!"

Vitriolic hate tends to be stupid.   That doesn't change depending on who lives in the WH.

The daily red meat article.

Where is the list of the 10,000 lies?

washingtonpost

WAPO is very generous on what they determine to be lies.  How surprising coming from a bias publication!

Where they this ambitious for Obama?

Always asking for links then disputing the links.  Typical.  

Just about everyday the DNC coordinates their messaging with the various pundits and media outlets,

Yep, repeated verbatim by the puppets.  

I love how they call it a database. So scientific!

Putin's puppets? 

The daily red meat article.

The daily bizarre denial. 

The daily bizarre denial.

Yes it is.

He still hasn't told as many lies as HRC and BO!

Not to mention Pelosi, Schumer, and all the rest of dem gang of fools.

Since you are the one in denial you should know. 

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Since you are the one in denial you should know.

Anyone who clings to articles like this on a daily basis is certainly suffering from denialism.

Anyone who clings to articles like this on a daily basis is certainly suffering from denialism.

Pitiful. 

I just challenged Sean to prove that.  Now you can too.    Give examples of all those people and their lies, then do Trump.  We can do Trump first if you want, get the ball rolling.  But these flippant accusations about dems as you minimize and ignore daily Trump lies is over.  Put it out for us to see. 

Do you actually have the time to read all 10,000? I thought you were a busy working mom

I don't think any of them do (like Barr didn't want to read back up evidence in Mueller's report).  They know what they'll find so they prefer to throw out more lies about the other side, those false equivalencies thrown out instead.  They all seem to ignore what Trump actually says and does and try to tell everyone what 'he really means' or some other Trumpsplain.  

You should learn to use google. All of them are out there, just look.. 

With his 10,000 lies, President Trump is the most dishonest politician ever

Well at least he can finally have what he has craved for so long, to actually be the best at something. Although I am sure there were no lack of competitors, the many tongues of Mr. Trump overcame the pretenders to the throne.

He got his win.

The Washington Post has documented more than 10,000 times

It's science so you must accept it as true! 

Maybe the only egos more inflated than Trump of Jim Acosta is that of the people who run the so-called "fact checker" at the Washington Post. The very name "fact checker" is a lie.

The media KNOWS the "GAME".

Report something.....ANYTHING.....then throw in the name "Fact Checker" reporting facts, after the fact.

Everyone believes Self "Fact Checkers".

After all.... Those Self "Checkers" of "Facts", Know everything ….. Before they didn't.

Everyone believes Self "Fact Checkers".

Those who refuse to think for themselves.  

Those who refuse to think for themselves.  

kinda like the Liberal senators and Liberal house representatives that actually think it's smart to note: "Well, The New York Times said"...….. when questioning someone in front of them. WTF !

The NYT unlike Fox is a reputable source. Fox is all far right wing lies, propaganda and innuendo.

The NYT unlike Fox is a reputable source.

Sure !

And we all know that the far right wing hates fact checks for obvious reasons. The truth is not in the far right wing.

The very name "fact checker" is a lie.

Do not need the Washington Post, Fact Checker or the NYT, Mr. Trumps lies are a matter of audio and visual history, right there to hear and see.

I have seen him change stories during the same interview, lying in real time is fairly difficult to ignore.

How is it 'fake news' when we see him say it on the 10:00 news?

As I mentioned I have seen him switch stories during the same interview. The only fake news is that which does not acknowledge, well let us call them Mr. Trumps short comings.

I just disregard anything that fat sack of shit says. [Removed]

Hey Fish it had great value.