A YouTube video by a Montreal “certified naturopath” that critics are calling out for offering “completely insane” advice — including false claims that vaccines poison babies and cause autism
The efforts to defeat a plague childhood diseases was a monumental achievement of mankind lead by the United States which was comparable to putting men on the Moon and yet antivavers, uterly ignorant of all of this, are vainly willing to throw it all away at all of our children's perils..
Vaccination has saved exponentially far more lives than all other medical "advances" in history. The only measure that has saved more are water cleanliness standards--another public health measure rather than some new "miracle drug."
That was almost 40 years before Koch actually isolated the bacteria (vibrio cholerae) thus well before the idea of what's popularly referred to as the germ theory of disease had been accepted by the medical world; and get this: the doctor's name was John Snow.
At the risk of being categorized, as often I post a different perspective and some fail to read the full context, I will say few things in life are absolute.
So, I know a fella who is a career ANZAC who has had several stints in Afghanistan. Very healthy young man at the age of 31. Very athletic at 6'5" perfect BMI (not that I am sold on BMI), participates in extreme sports. Unbelievable picture of some of his "stunts". Don't know what else to call them
However, he had some predisposition to some some things. Previous medical people did not want him to have a certain vaccination.
New Med officer in charge demands he get said vaccination prior to a deployment. Other Med folks petition against it. New Med officer overrules. He is given the vaccination and within hours he is in hospital with a stroke. Yes a stroke.
New Med officer is reassigned off his case and others more familiar with his situation reassigned on his case.
He was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time along with being VERY healthy that the damage was contained and minimized quickly. Still took a long to to recover and be in a position of re-deployment.
Not everyone is fortunate enough to be in hospital at the time of a stroke, induced by another form of ideology overruling situations.
Vaccinations by and large are a good thing. We just do not know as much as we think we do.
He was lucky, but still a stroke is going to take the edge off in any extreme activity he might want to do.
Having a stroke doesn't make a person stronger or more resistant to anything, or decrease your chances of having another stroke, contrary to anti-vaxxers beliefs.
From time to time I wear a t-shirt that reads "Vaccines Cause Adults." I haven't had any hostile reactions yet but I'm sure I'll eventually get one. It's a very hot issue in OR right now.
Well I am not quite sure they are the worse sort of folks,
I don't know: potentially jeopardizing your health, your children's health, and other peoples health by not getting vaccinated all because of some ignorant and irrational fear of vaccines seems pretty bad to me.
but they are certainly are in the running for the most dim witted.
Right up there with creationists and flat earthers. Who wins 1st place?
Anti-vaxxers because believing in Creation Science or a flat earth won't get anybody killed
Good point. But then, Flat earthers and creationists also spread ignorance and misinformation like a plague, much like anti-vaxxers contribute to the spread of disease through their ignorance and misinformation. It's a close competition between them.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
If you are opposed to vaccinations you are a) a total asshole, and b) a fucking idiot.
And c) Both! Among other things.
Maybe it can be explained as pseudo-intelligence arrogance, "I know better than any stupid Doctor with all their medical schoolin' and training."
No, it's just plain stupidity!
I choose (a)!
I don't demonize whole groups of people but make an exception for anti-vaxers.
Same here. They are literally the pro-disease crowd.
As I have repeatedly said, let's see how long anti-=intelligence communities would last when good ol smallpox shows up.
The efforts to defeat a plague childhood diseases was a monumental achievement of mankind lead by the United States which was comparable to putting men on the Moon and yet antivavers, uterly ignorant of all of this, are vainly willing to throw it all away at all of our children's perils..
Those people sicken me.
That is the best description I have heard for them.
Because of anti-vaccers, measles has resurfaced in this country, after being eradicated here in the early 2000's.
The kind of shit that makes me wish an asteroid would hit earth.
Hey, Hey ……. Hey ……………… HEEEEEEYYYYYYY !
It ain't my fault some folks do what they do. Why do you want me killed !
If there were such a anarchic state called Jefferson, I would expect it to break out there first.
Pretty sure that the rest of us have a right to quarantine anti-vaxers.
And their children will, as well. Are they not the same as those opposed to GRAVITY?
Asteroid struct EARTH the day that POS in the WH walked illegally into the Oval Office.
These folks are its spawn. They are spreading like the Measles.
Vaccination has saved exponentially far more lives than all other medical "advances" in history. The only measure that has saved more are water cleanliness standards--another public health measure rather than some new "miracle drug."
That is so correct! There's a story about a doctor in London who figured out where, why, and how cholera kept breaking out in one section of the city.
It was all about a public use well.
That was almost 40 years before Koch actually isolated the bacteria (vibrio cholerae) thus well before the idea of what's popularly referred to as the germ theory of disease had been accepted by the medical world; and get this: the doctor's name was John Snow.
The older I get, the more gravity just pisses me off!
Maybe we should have a state of Jefferson and use it as a quarantine zone. Or wall it in and turn it into a prison a la Escape From New York.
Somebody took a course in microbiology, didn't he? <smile>
Well, sorta. It felt like taking one on seeing a documentary about it a few years ago.
I also make that exception for flat earthers and creationists. But only because their intellectual dishonesty and cowardice annoys me.
They are either religious fanatics or greatly misguided ignoramuses. They are the REAL baby-killers.
Anti-Vaxxers
At the risk of being categorized, as often I post a different perspective and some fail to read the full context, I will say few things in life are absolute.
So, I know a fella who is a career ANZAC who has had several stints in Afghanistan. Very healthy young man at the age of 31. Very athletic at 6'5" perfect BMI (not that I am sold on BMI), participates in extreme sports. Unbelievable picture of some of his "stunts". Don't know what else to call them
However, he had some predisposition to some some things. Previous medical people did not want him to have a certain vaccination.
New Med officer in charge demands he get said vaccination prior to a deployment. Other Med folks petition against it. New Med officer overrules. He is given the vaccination and within hours he is in hospital with a stroke. Yes a stroke.
New Med officer is reassigned off his case and others more familiar with his situation reassigned on his case.
He was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time along with being VERY healthy that the damage was contained and minimized quickly. Still took a long to to recover and be in a position of re-deployment.
Not everyone is fortunate enough to be in hospital at the time of a stroke, induced by another form of ideology overruling situations.
Vaccinations by and large are a good thing. We just do not know as much as we think we do.
He was lucky, but still a stroke is going to take the edge off in any extreme activity he might want to do.
Having a stroke doesn't make a person stronger or more resistant to anything, or decrease your chances of having another stroke, contrary to anti-vaxxers beliefs.
Yes, he was lucky.
It was kind of shocking to see him skying down a glaciers one day and in a hospital bed with tubing and monitors hooked up to him a couple days later.
He has worked hard with the therapy and even recently was cleared for re-deployment.
Agree, he will never have the same physical abilities as before, he has done a good job coming back as far as he has.
few things in life are absolute.
The only absolute I know of in life is death.
Maybe taxes?
And Uncle Ben stays dead (Spider-Man reference)
Not if you're in the top 1% and Republicans are running the show.
The 'anti-vaxers' and the 'Brexit' thing have one thing in common. Russian fingerprints.
There's no question these lying morons are part of a general anti-science claque in this country. Know anyone else like that?
From time to time I wear a t-shirt that reads "Vaccines Cause Adults." I haven't had any hostile reactions yet but I'm sure I'll eventually get one. It's a very hot issue in OR right now.
Anti-Vaxxers are the Worst Kinds of People
Well I am not quite sure they are the worse sort of folks, but they are certainly are in the running for the most dim witted.
A pox upon them.
I don't know: potentially jeopardizing your health, your children's health, and other peoples health by not getting vaccinated all because of some ignorant and irrational fear of vaccines seems pretty bad to me.
Right up there with creationists and flat earthers. Who wins 1st place?
Anti-vaxxers because believing in Creation Science or a flat earth won't get anybody killed
Good point. But then, Flat earthers and creationists also spread ignorance and misinformation like a plague, much like anti-vaxxers contribute to the spread of disease through their ignorance and misinformation. It's a close competition between them.
Let's not forget the anti-science AGW deniers.
I wish I could forget about them
AGW deniers are to the environment what anti-vaxxers are to public health.
Bullseye! See my comment #8