Common health beliefs not necessarily true

  
Via:  perrie-halpern  •  5 months ago  •  36 comments

Common health beliefs not necessarily true
There’s new findings as to whether chicken is really better for lowering cholesterol than red meat, and there’s also news about those 10,000 steps you’re trying to get in every day.

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 months ago

I'm not shocked. Are you?

 
 
 
Enoch
1.1  Enoch  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    5 months ago

Dear Friend Perrie: The Fed Reserve promised in order to keep the national steps growing not to raise the number of stairs.

Laisse Faire is part of the Me Too # movement in Economics.

I think the issue isn't Communist (Red) Meat vs. UPS (Upstate Poultry Seared).

To me, its all a matter of Astrology.

"The Fault lies not in our stars, but in ourselves". (Billy Bob Shakesphere - Gran Olde Opry on Avon).

I know a guy who is an earth sign. 

He dates a Lady who is a water sign.

Together, they make mud!

Enoch, Debunking Bubba Meisas.    

 
 
 
dave-2693993
2  dave-2693993    5 months ago

"Carb up", "eggs are bad for you", "spinach is high in iron"...

 
 
 
Enoch
2.1  Enoch  replied to  dave-2693993 @2    5 months ago

Dear Brother Dave: "Thou Shalt Not Pass Go. Nor Shall Ye Collect $200". 

I am partial to myths.

When Mrs. E. was single and I dated here she was a Myth, then a MYs.

Enoch, Passing Go and Scoring Two C Notes. 

 
 
 
dave-2693993
2.1.1  dave-2693993  replied to  Enoch @2.1    5 months ago

LOL, the statement was left open to interpretation...jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Enoch
2.1.2  Enoch  replied to  dave-2693993 @2.1.1    5 months ago

LOL

 
 
 
dave-2693993
2.1.3  dave-2693993  replied to  Enoch @2.1.2    5 months ago

I must confess Enoch, I did the most daring of things yesterday morning.

I stopped and had a breakfast that might make Jay's look like a 5 star restaurant.

Yes, I stopped at McDonald's and got a breakfast sandwich, hash browns and orange juice...still waiting for the other shoe to drop...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  dave-2693993 @2    5 months ago

Oh and you should replace butter with margarine

eff that....

But I think I will eat a double bacon cheeseburger to celebrate this latest news

 
 
 
dave-2693993
2.2.1  dave-2693993  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    5 months ago
But I think I will eat a double bacon cheeseburger to celebrate this latest news

Hold the bacon* for me and add another beer on the side.

(* Short story: Older sis rented a room from me for a few years. Part of the deal for low rent was providing meals. I can't say everything, but I will say next to everything included bacon. I still cringe.)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  dave-2693993 @2.2.1    5 months ago

LOL! My daughter in law in a former life (that is life before vegetarianism) would have appreciated your sister. That girl loved bacon! I don't know how she lives without it....unless she's eating tofu bacon

 
 
 
dave-2693993
2.2.3  dave-2693993  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.2    5 months ago
unless she's eating tofu bacon

Too funny.

I wouldn't put it past some folks.

 
 
 
Kavika
3  Kavika     5 months ago

If you're a red meat lover change to wild game (venison) or buffalo.

 
 
 
Enoch
3.1  Enoch  replied to  Kavika @3    5 months ago

Dear Brother Kavika: There are some great locally raised venison, buffalo, llama, ostrich goat and sheep meat animals here in upstate, NY. 

Also, try the chicken It tastes just like chicken (except at Jay's Diner).

P&AB.

Enoch, Flossing and Brushing Like There is No Tomorrow (Which Some Day Will Be Correct for Me). 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Enoch @3.1    5 months ago

What does the chicken at Jay's Diner taste like? Road kill?

 
 
 
Enoch
3.1.2  Enoch  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    5 months ago

Dear Friend Trout Giggles: On the best of days the chicken at Jay's wishes it tasted as good as road kill!

Last week ants in Jay's kitchen looked at scraps and hung themselves in protest.

Sous Chef Recycle immediately made a batch of Antdes Stew. 

We do the best we have.

P&AB.

Enoch.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Enoch @3.1.2    5 months ago
Last week ants in Jay's kitchen looked at scraps and hung themselves in protest.

And the maggots gagged

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Kavika @3    5 months ago

Gator tastes good also.

 
 
 
Enoch
3.2.1  Enoch  replied to  1stwarrior @3.2    5 months ago

Dear Friend 1st Warrior: Who is the Alle gator, and who the Alle Gatee?

Legally Yours, Enoch.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.3  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @3    5 months ago

If you're a red meat lover change to wild game (venison) or buffalo.

Part of the problem with the red meat most Americans eat (commercially raised beef) is due not so much to the fat content as it is to the fact that they are raised on Corn, Soy, etc. This helps fatten them up (and if you eat that meat it will help fatten you up as well!).

OTOH, cattle raised naturally-- i.e. foraging on grass, is much much healthier.

(But unfortunately "Grass Fed Beef" is much more expensive).

The healthier alternative if you eat Beef is to eat only "Grass Fed Beef"-- or better yet Bison etc that Kavika suggested.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.3    5 months ago

IIRC< Grass Fed Beef probably contains significant levels of Omega-3s. (That's the "healthy fat" that is found in Salmon, Sardines, etc).

(Its also much healthier topurchase eggs that are "Omega 3 Eggs".

 
 
 
Snuffy
3.4  Snuffy  replied to  Kavika @3    5 months ago

Or wait a couple of years for the next study which could report that the amino acids in fatty red meat like you get from cows is better for you than what you can get from leaner red meats like buffalo.  It all changes around to keep the new fad running. 

I would rather just enjoy in moderation like my grandparents and great grandparents did then worry about what is bad for me today vs yesterday.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
3.4.1  dave-2693993  replied to  Snuffy @3.4    5 months ago
Or wait a couple of years for the next study

It's whoever pays for the study...

 
 
 
dave-2693993
3.5  dave-2693993  replied to  Kavika @3    5 months ago

Adding Wild boar to that.

The other white game meat.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    5 months ago

Tofu for all of you.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  Krishna  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4    5 months ago

More recent research would seem to indicate that Soy (at least in unfermented forms) may be somewhat unhealthy (it contains chemicals that are "Estrogen Mimickers). So ideally, at least for Caucasians, its best to avoid Soy products such as Soy Milk, and Tofu ("Bean Curd").

(Recent research in the field of genetics seems to indicate that your background-- your genetic inheritance-- may give clues as to what foods are healthiest and unhealthiest. For example, people descended from Norther Europeans tend to tolerate dairy well-- even A1 Dairy. Other people-- especially many people of sub-Saharan descent, usually have a poorer tolerance of Dairy. Recently A2 milk has become available).

 
 
 
It Is ME
5  It Is ME    5 months ago

"That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more."
"I ain't no tailor but I know what suits me."

Popeye

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
6  Bob Nelson    5 months ago

Salt is bad!

... except when it isn't...

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1  Krishna  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    5 months ago
Salt is bad! ... except when it isn't...

That's actually true...

Apparently Salt really does raise blood pressure a lot in some people and should be avoided or minimized. But interestingly, in many other folks it really doesn't blood pressure much if at all.

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @6.1    5 months ago
Apparently Salt really does raise blood pressure a lot in some people and should be avoided or minimized. But interestingly, in many other folks it really doesn't blood pressure much if at all.

Its not "salt" per se, but rather the Sodium. (Ordinary table salt is NaCl-- Sodium Chloride). However, there are salt substitutes that have no Sodium-- they contain KCL ( Potassium Chloride) instead. Here's one such product- - there are several brands like this.

Amount Per Serving




% Daily Value*
Potassium  690mg 20%
Protein  0g
Sodium  0mg 0%
Total Carb.  0g 0%
Total Fat  0g 0%
* Percentage of Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
 
 
 
Bob Nelson
6.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Krishna @6.1    5 months ago
Apparently Salt really does raise blood pressure a lot in some people

The operative term being "some people". A small minority, who do not evacuate excess salt efficiently. The vast majority doesn't have this problem, so the vast majority can consume as much salt as they please.

I have a flaky heart, but low blood pressure, so popcorn, pork chops, fried chicken... all heavily salted... yum

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Bob Nelson @6.1.2    5 months ago
The operative term being "some people". A small minority, who do not evacuate excess salt efficiently. The vast majority doesn't have this problem, so the vast majority can consume as much salt as they please.

I've been interested in studying nutrition for many years. And one thing that always struck me as a bit strange is that most sources tend to talk in generalizations. As if everyone had the same optimal nutritional protocol. I've always thought that while there were some general principles, people vary greatly.

Recently I have noticed what I thinki is a very positive trend-- more and more of the articles currently being published are starting to acknowledge that fact.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
6.1.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  Krishna @6.1.3    5 months ago

The differences are all along the line: digestion, integration, circulation, consumption, ...

It's unfair that some people never gain weight... but that's the way it is...

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
7  Freedom Warrior    5 months ago

So don't eat the skin of a chicken.

256

 
 
 
Krishna
7.1  Krishna  replied to  Freedom Warrior @7    5 months ago
So don't eat the skin of a chicken.

I don't eat the skin of cows either. (I always found it to taste a bit leathery.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8  MrFrost    5 months ago

If you are going to eat chicken, make sure to eat the caged chickens....their lives suck and shedding their moral coil is a blessing. Free range chickens are free and happy, something to live for. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
9  MrFrost    5 months ago
news about those 10,000 steps you’re trying to get in every day.

Last Saturday, my LG Health on my cell notified me of the following...

"You have take 22 steps today, that's 10 more than yesterday!!! Great job!!!!!!"

Trolled by a cell phone. 

 
 
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