How to fight back against leftist censorship
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
We all know about the leftist leanings of the so-called masters of the universe, the internet giants. We all know about the discriminatory treatment that many of us on the right are experiencing. The question is: How do we respond? Do we pick up our marbles and leave? Do we build our own platforms? Do we stand up and fight? Or perhaps it’s a combination of all of the above?
Recently, Lawrence Jones, editor-in-chief for Campus Reform, opined that conservatives are being lazy here. In his words , “Go create your own platforms.”
Jones, who is a libertarian, believes that the social media giants are free to run their companies however they want to, and if we don’t like it, we should go elsewhere.
In the end, we may have no choice but to do that very thing, and at this moment, millions of dollars are being invested in the development of new platforms.
As for Campus Reform, it is one of the most important voices today when it comes to exposing the radical leftist agenda on our college and university campuses.
That being said, I take issue with Jones’ assessment for a few reasons.
First, we helped build these very platforms. Conservatives like you and me helped build YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and Google.
Some of us have spent thousands of hours developing videos or posting blogs or making comments, getting our message out with regularity and interacting with millions of others in the process.
Why should we simply walk away without pushing back? Why should we concede defeat when we have hardly begun to stand?
Second, when we came on board, no one told us that these platforms would be biased against us. No one told us when we started searching on Google (remember when it was a strange sounding name?) that their searches would be weighted to favor the left.
No one told us that Facebook would be working with gay activist organizations or that YouTube would be working with the SPLC.
Had we known this up front, many of us would not have gotten involved in the first place.
Instead, what we understood was that these were neutral platforms. These were networks where we could connect with our friends. These were accessible places where we could share our videos. These were settings where we could intersect with people from all backgrounds.
It would be akin to a new bank opening in our city, offering the most attractive interest rates and the best customer options. So, we gladly switch our accounts to that bank.
It is only then, once the bank has our money, that we find out they are using the profits to fund radical, anti-Christian causes. And to add insult to injury, in the fine print, there’s a severe penalty for early withdrawal.
Obviously, the analogy is not meant to be exact. (So, please back off, dear critics.) But it is meant to convey a point: Had we known the facts at the outset, we would not have put our money in that bank.
At this point, having made substantial investments of time and energy, building our audiences and our platforms, we’re not ready simply to walk away.
Third, for some of us, the whole goal is reach and impact. In my case, AskDrBrown is a non-profit ministry, so we live and breathe to reach others with our message. We’re here to make the maximum impact on the maximum number of people, and that means not just preaching to the choir.
So, as long as YouTube allows us to post our videos, we will continue to use that platform, since we reach millions of people who otherwise would not know about us.
Day and night, we receive hateful, ugly comments from critics and bashers. Day and night, quite literally 24/7, we receive comments from dissenters and from seekers.
We are doing anything but preach to the choir on YouTube, and much of our audience is not coming to our website . Or our Facebook page. Or even our Twitter account.
So, since it is one of our goals to shine God’s light in dark places, we’re not prepared to walk away just because we are being unfairly treated.
I’m sure many other conservatives, be it for moral or spiritual or ideological reasons, feel the same way.
Fourth, there is something that everyone can do, and it’s quite simple.
Focusing on YouTube in particular, if you like the content you’re watching and the channel has been demonetized, then support that channel directly.
At present, the moment one of our videos goes live, it gets flagged by YouTube as not suitable for all advertisers, forcing us to request a manual review. In some cases, the videos are approved; in other cases, not. (So, to be clear, the videos are not being blocked or removed. They’re being demonetized.)
As much as possible, we are challenging YouTube to be fair and consistent. That’s all we’re asking for.
But we have also launched a Patreon account , and for 30 cents a day, our viewers can become full Patreon partners, getting some special benefits in the process as well.
The more partners we get, the more materials we can produce (again, we’re non-profit, so all the money that comes in goes right back out). And, with enough supporters, if YouTube decided to demonetize our entire channel, we would keep reaching people with our message, unfazed, undaunted, and unhindered.
Again, the day might come when these doors will close to us entirely. Or new and better platforms might be developed. Or the whole face of the internet might take a dramatic new turn.
But for now, let’s stand up and speak out and push back. The door is not yet slammed in our face.
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“We’re here to make the maximum impact on the maximum number of people, and that means not just preaching to the choir.
So, as long as YouTube allows us to post our videos, we will continue to use that platform, since we reach millions of people who otherwise would not know about us.
Day and night, we receive hateful, ugly comments from critics and bashers. Day and night, quite literally 24/7, we receive comments from dissenters and from seekers.
We are doing anything but preach to the choir on YouTube, and much of our audience is not coming to our website. Or our Facebook page. Or even our Twitteraccount.
So, since it is one of our goals to shine God’s light in dark places, we’re not prepared to walk away just because we are being unfairly treated.
I’m sure many other conservatives, be it for moral or spiritual or ideological reasons, feel the same way.
Fourth, there is something that everyone can do, and it’s quite simple.
Focusing on YouTube in particular, if you like the content you’re watching and the channel has been demonetized, then support that channel directly.”
It’s time to fight against the bigoted bias and hate of the big social media against religious belief and the expression of conservative ideas.
It's not the left that is "taking over", it's the rights message that is terrible and people don't like it. Maybe accept some of the blame instead of insisting that it's everyone 's wrong.
If the people didn’t like our message the big tech social media outlets would not be directly engaging in acts of censorship to suppress it and it would just die away on its own. But that’s not what is happening anywhere censorship is being engaged in whether it be by algorithms or human thought censors or the use of 3rd party gatekeepers to content control ideas on a given site.
That article is so full of lies and innuendo I'm surprised even the stanches trump kisser can stomach it.
I have already asked you for proof of this, you provided none. Also, as I pointed out, even if it WAS true, they are privately owned, they can censor who they like. Fox news censors people all the time, where is your outrage about that?
I did and you simply attacked the sources.
https://youtu.be/9lZjqQmS7LU
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Social media companies react when those conservatives messages begin to drive away advertising dollars and other users. It's in the TOS if you bothered to read it.
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not a chance.
all the above and then some more. in the end, we will win.
no worries
I agree. We stand and fight them on their own platforms while we build new ones. An all of the above all out war against all secular progressive social media internet platforms for our beliefs and values should be waged while we develop alternatives that can be ready one day if need be for a massive conservative exodus from those platforms to our own.
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Exactly....why would these radical rightists want to go someplace where they are hated in the first place? I wonder how a conservative college would welcome someone from AntiFa to speak on their campus? Pretty sure they would whine and cry.
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We already ruled out that option. We are going to stay here and fight for what we believe in.
Then you wouldn't mind if I showed you trump's base and all you have to fight with
You have no rights on private property, either a private website or a tangible property that you do not own, so there is nothing to fight for. You either obey the TOS or you can be banned. There are no exceptions.
You are a guest on those websites and you cannot claim that your free speech rights apply because they do not.
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You should not use ideas that do not apply to you. Nobody is persecuting you.
The post I was responding to was deleted of no value in part for suggesting that members here leave here.
As we all now know the term currently has a broader meaning than that. Ironically what I was referring to above was the poster above using a Nazi reference in a sweeping generalization about Trump supporters.
Exactly. While we are at it, how are the other companies suppressing the radical rights voice? Showing support for a left wing organization is not suppressing a right wing voice. Unless they are actively banning people who have a right wing ideology, then this entire article is nothing but bullshit.
So? Do you want the government to force people to view 'your' website? If people aren't going to your website, maybe they don't share your radical views, or, your website is crap.
No one is suppressing the radical rights voice, it's just that most people don't want to hear what those idiots have to say.
Colleges are private companies in most cases. So, again, they can decide who they want to speak and who can't speak on their campus. I am sure this is linked to a college telling that neo-nazi scumbag being told to go pound sand. Tough shit. If a college doesn't want hate speech from a radical nutter, that's fine by me.
Since we are on the subject... Fox news censors their chat rooms, AND uses bots to swing conversations from left leaning to right leaning. Just about every radical right website that accepts comments, censors ANY and ALL negative comments about trump. Don't tell me they don't, I have seen it done for years.
true enough... unless they want federal money.
You can't force a private entity to allow people on their campus to speak. Also, that's called socialism. For trump hating socialism, he sure uses it a lot.
Do you think I should be able to come into your house and rant and rave for a few hours about how bad trump is? No? Why not? If you think it's ok for trump to force other private companies to accept hate speech, why can't I go on say....fox news, and run trump into the ground for a couple of hours?
if they want federal money? AKA: the people's money?
yes, we most certainly can.
https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/46527/pinterest-blacklists-pj-media-other-conservative-sites-and-this-is-just-the-tip-of-the-censorship-iceberg
“President Trump on Thursday signed an executive order to promote free speech on college campuses by threatening colleges with the loss of federal research funding if they do not protect those rights.
"We’re here to take historic action to defend American students and American values," Trump said, surrounded by conservative student activists at the signing ceremony. "They’ve been under siege."
"Under the guise of speech codes, safe spaces and trigger warnings, these universities have tried to restrict free thought, impose total conformity and shut down the voices of great young Americans like those here today," he said.
FLASHBACK: CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST ATTACKED ON UC-BERKELEY CAMPUS DURING RECRUITMENT DRIVE
A senior administration official said the order directs 12 grant-making agencies to use their authority in coordination with the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to ensure institutions that receive federal research or education grants promote free speech and free inquiry. White House officials have said it will apply to more than $35 billion in grants.
Public universities seeking funding would have to certify they comply with the First Amendment, which already applies to them. Private universities, which have more flexibility in limiting speech, would need to commit to their own institutional rules.
"Even as universities have received billions and billions of dollars from taxpayers, many have become increasingly hostile to free speech and the First Amendment," Trump said.
TRUMP, ON CPAC STAGE WITH BERKELEY ASSAULT VICTIM, PROMISES EXECUTIVE ORDER ON CAMPUS FREE SPEECH
Trump had announced that such an order was forthcoming at the Conservative Political Action Conference last month, where he said the directive would require colleges and universities to support free speech in exchange for federal research dollars.
He brought on stage Hayden Williams, a conservative activist who was attacked while working a recruitment table on campus at the University of California-Berkeley. The video quickly went viral, with conservatives citing it as further evidence of the stifling and sometimes-violent atmosphere that conservatives face on campus.
OPINION: TRUMP ORDER PROTECTING CAMPUS FREE SPEECH IS RIGHT RESPONSE TO BERKELEY ASSAULT
“He took a punch for all of us,” Trump said of Williams. “And we could never allow that to happen. And here is, in closing with Hayden, here’s the good news. He’s going to be a wealthy young man.”
“If they want our dollars, and we give it to them by the billions, they’ve got to allow people like Hayden and many other great young people and old people to speak,” Trump said. “Free speech. If they don’t, it will be costly. That will be signed soon.”
Talk show host Dennis Prager, who appears in an upcoming documentary called "No Safe Spaces," said Thursday: "It's tragic that in the one country that was founded on liberty--the country that enshrined freedom of speech in its foundational document--this executive order has become necessary. But, thanks to the left, it has. If President Trump can put a stop to the intolerance of non-leftist viewpoints on college campuses and help steer the country in the right direction, there just might be hope."
Conservative commentators such as Ann Coulter and Ben Shapiro have faced hostile atmospheres when trying to speak at universities -- particularly Berkeley, where Coulter was forced to pull out of speaking and Shapiro faced protests that required police in full riot gear and intense security measures.
White House officials declined to provide specific examples about how universities could lose funding and said implementation details will be finalized in coming months.”
Fox News’ Kellianne Jones, Robert Gearty and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Adam Shaw is a reporter covering U.S. and European politics for Fox News.. He can be reached here.
No, you cannot. You cannot walk onto private property and claim freedom of speech. Doesn't work that way. And if someone tried it in my neighborhood? They'll get shot.
How shocking that trump would sign an EO so neo-nazi's can spew hate on a college campus. Surprsed? Not even a little bit since trump is an anti-semite neo-nazi himself.
yes we can. funny thing...
we already are doing just that. and it is working just fine.
So, everyone that applied for a VA loan, accepted welfare, or accepted any money at all from the feds, means their property is now a public place? Ownership gone? Wow, so all those people in the South that accepted federal aid to rebuild their homes...it all belongs to the government now. Sad.
So you are a socialist?
You may want to read up on that EO, it doesn't mean what you think it means.
As has been pointed out, PJ Media is a far right wing radicalized fake news/shitty opinion site. Most of what they post isn't based in fact.
try again.
But you said if they accept federal money, then anyone can speak on that property...
put your imagination away.... LOL
allowing someone to speak is not the same as forfeiting ownership of that college
and the eo had nothing to do with a veterans loan...
yer too funny
The first amendment already applies on public colleges and universities. They are government entities. The executive order simply says that they must follow the 1st amendment free speech rights in the constitution to the letter or lose federal funding for not abiding by the God given rights and protections in the constitution and its amendments. Private schools have different more permissive rules regarding their conduct in this matter.
Trump the anti Semite who has a Jewish son in law, daughter, and grandkids who loves them and has the son in law and daughter as key advisers. Trump the neo Nazi who loves Israel, likes their leader, and moved our embassy to their real capital.
First of all it isn’t far right at all. It’s simply mainstream conservative. It limits the use of loaded headlines and uses credible conservative sources. It’s a fine mainstream conservative news and opinion organization.
If it's already in the first amendment, why the fuck did he write the EO? That makes NO sense at all.
These do not exist. These rights you speak of were given by the founders, not God. I mean, unless you have specific proof that God handed down all these laws you speak of.
Didn't think so.
You weren't supposed to notice those pesky details.
If they bothered to read the founders words on this idea, our rights are guaranteed to us by group consent and not given to us by any god. Their God is claimed to be omniscient and omnipotent, so if they were given to us by the Abrahamic god we would all need to be Christians, which would violate the First Amendment's religious clauses and we would have no free will.
The US was not created as a Christian country, so if those rights stem from any god, it would be the absentee god of deism.
Kind of one and the same.
Oxymoron
Contradiction in terms.
People in the social media are in fact silencing and suppressing Christian and conservative voices systematically on their platforms. https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/46527/pinterest-blacklists-pj-media-other-conservative-sites-and-this-is-just-the-tip-of-the-censorship-iceberg They are using algorithms and human bigot secular progressive censors to do so. As to colleges and universities, many are actually government run, operated, and owned. The others besides a few really conservative ones receive large amounts of federal funds. Some private schools may have to chose soon between restricting student and student invited guests free speech or access to federal research and tuition support dollars.
1) Prove it.
2) What were they banned for?
3) Name 50 examples.
Again, prove it.
If it is privately owned, they can restrict access to anyone they please. End of story.
The link in your other article takes me to PJ Media, which is an extreme radicalized website that is based on opinions and made up fake news bullshit.
if they receive federal funds they no longer can restrict access to anyone they please.
and that is the current... end of story.
So if someone receives federal aid to rebuild their home after a natural disaster, their homes are now government owned? All these small business's that have received loans...al belong to the government? Anyone can now just walk in and start spreading hate? Yea, pretty sure it doesn't work that way, sorry!
Still waiting for answers HA. Hello?
no... LOL too funny.
your imagination is on fire today...
hint. receiving public assistance does not transfer ownership...
but we all have to jump thru various hoops/ qualify to get it. colleges are no exception.
But it does for a college campus? You seem to want to argue that's the way it works. Equal protection under the law, correct?
Again...you support socialism? Because the government forcing a private business to allow hate groups on their campus is...socialism.
LOL
the leftwing imagination is something to behold.
cheers
Sorry I’ve been on other of my own seeds as well as friends and enemy seeds. I have an answer above.
Again, for public colleges it is their legal and constitutional duty to abide by the constitution for everyone. Now not following it as they are obliged to do will cost them their federal funds. As to private schools, they have to literally to the letter follow their own founding charter to continue to receive federal funds. The federal government removed federal funding including student loans from several conservative private colleges in the past for their reasons and now can certainly do it to liberal ones now if they won’t follow the current federal law
If the college is owned by the state or feds? Yes. Private colleges? No.
No. If that was the case they would no longer be a private college. Also, they can change their charter for any reason they choose.
I just find it funny as hell that you want less government intrusion and despise socialism, but fully support both as long as it works in YOUR favor.
Just going to keep avoiding that socialism question, eh? LOL
CHEERS!!!!!!!!!!!
So bakers can restrict access to special order cakes to anyone they please?
Actually that’s not true. See where I responded to your other allegation above.
They are not permitted to do that because they are a business that is required to serve the public equally. How much have you paid YouTube, Instagram, Pinterest or Facebook for service? They have the same right to determine decency of what they will host.
A public business is permitted to eject a customer that causes problems for other customers or is unruly. Expecting equal service is not being unruly, and Jack Phillips never claimed that they were or called the police to eject them.
Was it socialism when the feds took away or threatened to do so to conservative Christian colleges for not following some federal rule(s) in the 70’s and 80’s? Some schools like Hillsdale in Michigan refuse all federal funds including for scholarships such as Pell so as to avoid entanglement with government or the government using the funds as leverage to coerce behavior. Progressives are used to being on the one side of the federal funds leverage issue are now discovering what it’s like to be on the other. Maybe now that this weapon is being used on them they will be less likely to use it again on others themselves...Nah, that will not likely happen though it did with the independent counsel law post watergate. Once what they did to Reagan and Bush 41 was used on Clinton, a bipartisan agreement to ditch the law was passed.
The social media internet tech giants are also a business required to serve all equally. There isn’t a different standard to brick and mortar and the web based business when it comes to serving the customer public. Do internet companies have a religious based objection where it would violate their religious beliefs to serve evangelical Christians and conservatives as customers there?
LikeI said previously, there are limits to what they will broadcast, especially when that speech is offensive enough to drive other customers away. If you don't like the rules then creates your own conservative Facebook where you can post anything that you want, as long as your advertisers approve. If Facebook is so intolerant toward Christians then please explain why I have 10 people a day posting religious verses and prayers.
You do not have free speech rights on the property of others, just as you cannot go to your neighbor's house and claim that you have property rights. It's their sites and their rules. If you don't like it then leave.
Say a gay couple lives in a town where they pay local, state and federal taxes. What do those tax dollars go to? Infrastructure, police, fire, EMS, sewer, water, etc.. Who uses these services? Business's. Why should this gay couple be denied services from a business that benefits from their tax dollars?
Either way, you are comparing apples and oranges again. Not even remotely the same thing.