'Tanks' a lot: Trump 4th of July celebration isn't first time armored vehicles have rumbled into Washington

  
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'Tanks' a lot: Trump 4th of July celebration isn't first time armored vehicles have rumbled into Washington
The U.S. tradition of military parades dates back to the Civil War era.

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Tanks rumbled down Pennsylvania Avenue for Dwight Eisenhower's inaugural parade in 1953. John F. Kennedy deployed them eight years later – as well as missiles. Even a 1939 visit by England's King George VI prompted a splashy display of armored hardware rolling through the nation's capital.

President Donald Trump's demand that   tanks be part of his "Salute to America"   on the National Mall Thursday to celebrate the 4th of July has prompted critics, including Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg, to call it a jingoistic display befitting a despot.

But tanks have long been a part of national moments of celebration in Washington, although mainly associated with presidential inaugurations and military victory parades.

The last ones thundered through the nation's capital in 1991 when the nation commemorated victories over Iraq.

Here are several occasions where tanks were part of a celebration in the nation's capital:

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On June 8, 1939, Washington and   President Franklin D. Roosevelt held a welcoming parade   for King George VI and Queen Elizabeth. Their procession was led by a small group of tanks.

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First and second Eisenhower inaugurals



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JFK inauguration



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Jasper2529
1  seeder  Jasper2529    3 months ago
The U.S. tradition of military parades dates back to the Civil War era. USA TODAY

USA Today video in article.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
2  seeder  Jasper2529    3 months ago
The last time tanks showed up in Washington was in June 1991 when tanks and other weapons were featured in a celebration of the U.S. armed forces' victory over Iraq in the operation known as Desert Storm.
 
 
 
luther28
3  luther28    3 months ago

I myself do not feel they are needed, but with all the other zaniness going on around us I really do not care that much.

More displeasure over Mr. Trump hijacking the event I believe, the tanks just added fuel to it.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1  r.t..b...  replied to  luther28 @3    3 months ago
the tanks just added fuel to it.

Boys and their toys. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1    3 months ago
Boys and their toys. 

"Boys and their toys" have saved the free world from tyranny on multiple occasions, and millions of those boys have been permanently maimed or have died doing so. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.1    3 months ago

There is simply no reason for this event to exist. Trump wants praise. Maybe you will realize that one day before all this is way in the rear view mirror. 

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.4  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 months ago

We should cancel the fourth celebration because some malcontents hate the president? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @3.1.4    3 months ago

There already is a fourth celebration on that mall. What did they need another one for?

LOL. Of course the answer is the big baby in the White House who wants to say look at me, I have the best generals and tanks. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
3.1.33  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    3 months ago

Thread removed due to too many off topic comments and lack of moderation by the seeder.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
4  seeder  Jasper2529    3 months ago

Some Democrat candidates have been in full-blown speculation mode in order to score political points. Funny stuff!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5  JohnRussell    3 months ago

Some woman is being interviewed from the rally site and she says everything Trump says is wonderful and this show is only to "unite the country". That is how dense these people are. Trump's approval in the latest Gallup poll is 41%, basically where it has been for 2 1/2 years. Thats all there is folks. 

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago

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Jasper2529
5.1.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  MUVA @5.1    3 months ago

Buttigieg, Robert Francis, and Kamala dumped negative comments in their safe spaces (MSNBC and CNN) regarding our annual Washington, DC 4th of July celebration. For some reason, they're against it this year.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @5.1    3 months ago

Why would anyone in their right mind want to "unite" with Donald Trump, or a lot of his supporters?

I won't say all so as to not get censored. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    3 months ago

Because should they manage to win the Presidency they are going to need Trump's supporters to ensure a smooth transition. Unless they want to be a recipient of the same type of shit show the left has produced ever since Trump has taken office.  They are off to a great start so far./S

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.2  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago

Thanks for dropping another opinion comment, John.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2    3 months ago

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bugsy
5.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2    3 months ago

Thanks for dropping another opinion comment, John.

 

There seems to be alot of them, but they don't mean squat.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.2.3  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  bugsy @5.2.2    3 months ago

IMO, the only time opinions have worth is when they're supported by unbiased facts.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.2.4  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.3    3 months ago
IMO, the only time opinions have worth is when they're supported by unbiased facts.

Please support your opinion with unbiased facts. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.3    3 months ago
IMO, the only time opinions have worth is when they're supported by unbiased facts.

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Jasper2529
5.2.6  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.2.4    3 months ago
Please support your opinion with unbiased facts. 

With pleasure.

It is important to distinguish between fact and opinion because a fact is a truth based on evidence, while an opinion is a view that is not based on checkable evidence.   People use facts to create their own opinions about a certain topic. Opinions can carry a bias and may be judged by who is giving them.

https://www.reference.com/world-view/important-distinguish-fact-opinion-96c206c4f5c3ecaf

Time to discuss the seeded topic and not derail another of my seeds, dulay. Only warning.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.6    3 months ago

Your definition is incomplete. 

Someone might have the opinion that Miley Cyrus is a beautiful woman.  The opinion is not "worthless" just because it can't be objectively proven true.  The opinion might cause someone to take a second look at Miley Cyrus, and that person change their opinion  or form one about Miley Cyrus. And so on. 

Change Miley Cyrus looks to some politicians behavior and you can see that opinions are not always worthless if they are not supported by provable fact. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.2.8  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2.6    3 months ago
Time to discuss the seeded topic and not derail another of my seeds, dulay. Only warning.

My question is a direct reply to YOUR comment. Hardly a derail, especially since you've posted multiple comments dismissing the worth of other member's opinions. 

As for your reply, it's an utter fail.

Nowhere does it state WHY you think that:

the only time opinions have worth is when they're supported by unbiased facts.

In fact your link actually cites the 'worth' of opinions, above and beyond 'unbiased facts':

Journalists will often use a mix of facts and people's opinions when covering a story. Readers can use the facts to learn more about the story and can use the opinions to spark the formation of their own opinion. Customers also use a combination of facts and opinions when choosing items. For example, someone searching for a vegetarian restaurant will need to know if a location is vegetarian, but may also use reviews from other customers to decide whether to make a reservation.

Your link refutes your own posit. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.2.9  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @5.2.8    3 months ago

IMPASSE.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.2.10  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.7    3 months ago

IMPASSE.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago
Trump's approval in the latest Gallup poll is 41%,

That's a relief.  It simply proves that there is an intelligent block of voters that might be able to save this country from the disasters perpetrated on us by the left.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.3.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3    3 months ago

Or that 41% of the population consists of fucking retards. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.1    3 months ago
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Thanks for proving my point.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.2    3 months ago
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JohnRussell
5.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.2    3 months ago

41% doesnt win elections. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.4    3 months ago

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Jasper2529
5.3.6  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.3    3 months ago
Isn't it simply amazing how worked up over a Fourth of July celebration some folks can get? As if it is the single most important thing in the world...………..OMG, Trump is bringing tanks to D.C. so he can usurp power and become a dictator!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I chose this article to point out how often presidents have used tanks and military in parades and celebrations, but some Trump haters continue to trip over their own feet. Kamala Harris whined that Trump didn't know that July 4th wasn't his own birthday. Others don't realize that many other presidents have given speeches on the 4th of July.

They don't understand that our US military has been the foundation of freedom in the world and should be celebrated.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3.6    3 months ago

How many 4th of July celebrations at the Lincoln Memorial have had tanks at them? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.7    3 months ago
How many 4th of July celebrations at the Lincoln Memorial have had tanks at them?

How many progressive, liberal, Trump-hating folks are afraid of something different?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.3.9  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.7    3 months ago
How many 4th of July celebrations at the Lincoln Memorial have had tanks at them? 

I don't know what "news" you read, but I ask you to please relax and learn facts.

None of the tanks are "at the Lincoln Memorial". They are "near" or "nearby".

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/4th-july-donald-trump-military-parade-tanks-seen-washington-dc/1637384001/

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3.9    3 months ago

You are "correct"  The armored fighting vehicle is not literally parked on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. It's a good 75 feet away from the steps. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

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MUVA
5.3.11  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.10    3 months ago

At least you are honest and admit you were wrong. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.12  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @5.3.11    3 months ago

I'm not wrong . 50 or 75 ft. away is "at" the Lincoln Memorial. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.3.13  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.10    3 months ago

I don't know from which website you got those photos, but they weren't from the 2019 photos in the article I linked in comment 5.3.9 .

 
 
 
MUVA
5.3.14  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.12    3 months ago

No I was complimenting you. You admitted they are not on the actual stepps.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.15  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.4    3 months ago
41% doesnt win elections. 

It sure as shit did in 2016.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3.13    3 months ago

Well, I dont think there have been two occasions where they were setting up tanks for a speech from the Lincoln Memorial. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.17  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.3.13    3 months ago
I don't know from which website you got those photos, but they weren't from the 2019 photos in the article I linked in comment 5.3.9.

Perhaps then you should 'relax and learn facts' that aren't contained in your source. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.3.18  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.7    3 months ago
How many 4th of July celebrations at the Lincoln Memorial have had tanks at them?

Who cares? What do you imagine will happen? Do you think the tank is going to shoot Lincoln and kill democracy at the same time?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.19  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.15    3 months ago
It sure as shit did in 2016.  

It sure as shit did NOT...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.18    3 months ago

Is there a migrant caravan headed for the Lincoln Memorial?  Maybe a horde of antifa killers? It sure look like the Lincoln Memorial is being guarded against something. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.3.21  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.20    3 months ago
It sure look like the Lincoln Memorial is being guarded against something.

It does? How do you figure? Looks to me like they're just on display so regular Americans can take a little pride in their military. Got a problem with that?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.22  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.18    3 months ago
What do you imagine will happen?

That a multimillion dollar invoice will ensue so Trump could have some military bling at his speech. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.23  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @5.3.19    3 months ago
It sure as shit did NOT...

Regardless of the percentage, Trump is President and Hillary is not.

Had Hillary campaigned instead of napping, she might have won sufficient electoral votes to win the election.  But, alas, she thought some states were a lock and not worthy of her oh so valuable nap time.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.24  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @5.3.22    3 months ago
That a multimillion dollar invoice will ensue so Trump could have some military bling at his speech. 

So?  Is there a point you're trying to make?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.25  Dulay  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.12    3 months ago
I'm not wrong . 50 or 75 ft. away is "at" the Lincoln Memorial.

They are much closer than that. They are set up inside the circular road that denotes the border of the Lincoln Memorial. So they are ON the Lincoln Memorial. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.26  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.23    3 months ago
Regardless of the percentage, Trump is President and Hillary is not.

You seemed to think that percentage was relevant an hour ago. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.27  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.24    3 months ago
So? Is there a point you're trying to make?

You made it quite deftly.

IOKIYAR 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.28  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @5.3.14    3 months ago
No I was complimenting you. You admitted they are not on the actual stepps.

Where did he say they WERE on the actual 'stepps'? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.3.29  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @5.3.22    3 months ago

Which part do you hate the most?

Is it your yearning for the bygone days of free 4th of July parades? Because that never happened.

Is it the president making a speech on the 4th of July? Because that always happens.

Is it a military presence around the president while he is making a speech? Because that happens all year long in all sorts of settings and that also happens with every president.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.3.30  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.29    3 months ago

The answers to all of your questions are found in the diagnosis known as TDS. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.31  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.23    3 months ago
Regardless of the percentage

So the 41% sure as shit DIDN'T do it XD? 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.32  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.29    3 months ago
Which part do you hate the most?

Since I didn't say anything about hating anything, no part. 

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Dulay
5.3.33  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.18    3 months ago
What do you imagine will happen?

It seems that I'm not allowed to imagine what will happen. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.34  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @5.3.31    3 months ago
Regardless of the percentage
So the 41% sure as shit DIDN'T do it XD? 

Not playing your word games.  I've told you that before.  But, we're saying President Trump and not Clinton.  Deal with it.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.35  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.34    3 months ago
Not playing your word games. I've told you that before. 

Since when are facts word games XD? You made a statement that is FALSE. Acknowledge it or not, up to you...

But, we're saying President Trump and not Clinton.  Deal with it.

We who? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.4  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago
this show is only to "unite the country". That is how dense these people are

So you think a 4th of July parade somehow divides the country? I'd say that's by your choice, not by anything the parade does.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @5.4    3 months ago
So you think a 4th of July parade somehow divides the country? I'd say that's by your choice, not by anything the parade does.

In this day and age, of course the whole premise of any July 4th celebration is divisive.

You have to remember, this is our reality now. The original flag is now something upsetting to some. Who would have thought that even 20 years ago?

I don't remember anyone getting upset during the bicentennial when those flags were seemingly everywhere. Now, it is an issue to America-hating cupcakes.

Very sad.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.4.2  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @5.4.1    3 months ago
You have to remember, this is our reality now.

Indeed.

The original flag is now something upsetting to some. Who would have thought that even 20 years ago?

The Betsy Ross flag was prominent during Obama's inaugurations but wasn't an issue. Imagine that. I wonder why Nike and MSM never asked Kap about that.

I don't remember anyone getting upset during the bicentennial when those flags were seemingly everywhere. Now, it is an issue to America-hating cupcakes. Very sad.

I remember our Bicentennial celebrations very well. No one freaked out over US flags, parades, and military tanks.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.4.3  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.4.1    3 months ago
In this day and age, of course the whole premise of any July 4th celebration is divisive.

Gee, I wonder what's changed since last year, or the year before that?

Got any idea Tex? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.4.4  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.4.3    3 months ago
Gee, I wonder what's changed since last year, or the year before that?
Got any idea Tex?

For starters, the vitriol from some on the left has intensified and become intolerable.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.4.5  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.4.4    3 months ago
For starters, the vitriol from some on the left has intensified and become intolerable.

Au contraire. The vitriol was at it's height the first half of 2017 yet Trump seemed to manage to keep his ass off of the National Mall during the 2017 4th of July celebration. Of course, that was before Trump had the tingle go up his leg when he saw the pomp of Bastille Day. Then he just HAD to have him a Military somethin', somethin' in DC. But to his pouty despair, not even his minions could figure out how to justify the millions of dollars it would cost up front and the damage that tanks rumbling down Pennsylvania Ave. would cause. 

As for it being 'intolerable' now, that's laughable. What would Trump play off of if not for criticism from the left? His own party are too timid to make a peep, except for Amash. Of course, then the GOP shunned him...

 
 
 
livefreeordie
5.5  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 months ago

She was reflecting the pride millions of we Americans feel towards our country and our president.

and you chose the outlier poll. Trump’s realclearpolitics ave is 44%. Higher than Obama was at the same point (Obama was at 38%)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

 
 
 
Dulay
5.5.1  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @5.5    3 months ago
Higher than Obama was at the same point (Obama was at 38%)

False.

July 3rd, 2012, Obama's approval rating was 47.7. 

In fact, Obama's LOWEST approval rating was 40.1. 

Repent. 

 
 
 
bugsy
6  bugsy    3 months ago

We all know that if it were Obama that did the same exact thing as Trump, the loon left would be out in droves expressing their love and admiration of how their messiah would want to showcase our military, and would criticize every previous President for not having done the same.

Unfortunately, Obama hates/hated our military, so he would have never have done such a thing. Besides, he decimated the military by cutting it to the point where deploying ships and units had to borrow from those that are not deploying, or had just returned.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7  JohnRussell    3 months ago

You know, a couple tanks and a couple Bradleys is not a show of force. There is no threat of a military parade. Either there wasnt enough time or the Pentagon didnt want to cooperate. If it was up to Trump there would have been 100 tanks. 

Its not the number of tanks or lack of number of tanks. The whole thing is a tv show to praise Trump.  We already have a perfectly good 4th of July celebration at that same national mall. Trump doesnt like that one because they wont let him come there and preen. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
7.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @7    3 months ago

Thank you for making another opinion comment that's not supported by facts.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @7.1    3 months ago

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Greg Jones
7.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @7    3 months ago

And Trump's approval ratings are close to 50% and climbing.

 
 
 
pat wilson
7.2.1  pat wilson  replied to  Greg Jones @7.2    3 months ago

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Donald Trump's job approval rating, which has been fluctuating between 40% and 43% since early May, was 41% in the second half of June, and includes 29% who strongly approve. Fifty-four percent of Americans disapprove of the president's performance, including 44% who do so strongly.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259871/trump-approval-remains-low-40s.aspx

 
 
 
bugsy
7.2.2  bugsy  replied to  pat wilson @7.2.1    3 months ago

So what? Obama's approval during the same time period was at 46 and dropped to 40 only 6 weeks later. I don't remember liberals screaming that the President was a failure because of his low approvals.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

 
 
 
Tacos!
8  Tacos!    3 months ago

It's just a 4th of July parade. With all the hysteria, you'd think Trump was heading a column of nazis to take over the country. What do you think is going to happen? You think a tank is going to blow up a kindergarten? It's a celebration of America on America's birthday in America's capitol. Anything else you see comes from your own imagination.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Tacos! @8    3 months ago
Anything else you see comes from your own imagination.

I love the fact that President Trump is making their lives a living hell by living rent free in their heads 24 hours a day!  And the knowledge that they have a good possibility of enduring that for another six years make my heart skip a beat with glee!!!

 
 
 
Dulay
8.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @8    3 months ago
It's just a 4th of July parade.

Actually, Trump's ego play has nothing to do with the 4th of July parade in DC. That started at 11:45, Trump doesn't start his day that early. 

With all the hysteria, you'd think Trump was heading a column of nazis to take over the country.

Trump is surrounding himself with partisans and uniforms for a photo op and campaign rally speech. That's not leadership. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @8.2    3 months ago
Trump is surrounding himself with partisans and uniforms for a photo op and campaign rally speech.

That IS shocking. I've never seen a politician do that! AMAZING!

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Heartland American
8.2.2  Heartland American  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.1    3 months ago

And it’s a speech that’s a tribute to America, not to himself.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
8.3  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Tacos! @8    3 months ago
It's just a 4th of July parade. With all the hysteria, you'd think Trump was heading a column of nazis to take over the country. What do you think is going to happen? You think a tank is going to blow up a kindergarten? It's a celebration of America on America's birthday in America's capitol. Anything else you see comes from your own imagination.

But ... but ... but ... patriotic US citizens and legal immigrants are not allowed to celebrate our nation's birthday ... because ... TDS reigns!

 
 
 
pat wilson
9  pat wilson    3 months ago

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XDm9mm
9.1  XDm9mm  replied to  pat wilson @9    3 months ago

No, it's not normal.  A decent photographer would make sure it was a fully recognizable face.

 
 
 
Krishna
10  Krishna    3 months ago

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Jasper2529
10.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  Krishna @10    3 months ago

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livefreeordie
10.2  livefreeordie  replied to  Krishna @10    3 months ago

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Jasper2529
10.2.1  seeder  Jasper2529  replied to  livefreeordie @10.2    3 months ago

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Dulay
10.2.2  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.2.1    3 months ago

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XDm9mm
10.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @10    3 months ago
Authoriotarian regimes love to show off their military might!

Is it your claim that the photo is due to Trump?   

And here I at one time thought you were above that type of tripe.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
13  livefreeordie    3 months ago

John Adams on future celebrations of the 4th of July

“I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.

You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not. -- I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. -- Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Days Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.”

Original manuscript: Adams, John. Letter from John Adams to Abigail Adams, 3 July 1776, "Had a Declaration..." . 3 pages. Original manuscript from the Adams Family Papers, Massachusetts Historical Society.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
14  livefreeordie    3 months ago

Trump had nothing to do with our patriotic 4th of July Parades in Huntington Beach CA where we love the Military

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livefreeordie
15  livefreeordie    3 months ago

Hmm, that “right wing dictator”Eisenhower had military tanks pass in review at his inauguration.  How did ever survive it?

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JohnRussell
15.2  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @15    3 months ago

We were at war in Korea when Eisenhower was inaugurated.

The comparison is ridiculous. 

 
 
 
MUVA
15.2.1  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @15.2    3 months ago

We are still at war in Afghanistan so not really that ridiculous. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
16  JohnRussell    3 months ago

CBS is reporting that the crowd at the Trump show is not very big. 

It's been raining though so he has a good excuse. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
16.1  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @16    3 months ago

The President is getting great applause for his very patriotic speech

great job Mr President

 
 
 
XDm9mm
16.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @16    3 months ago
CBS is reporting that the crowd at the Trump show is not very big. 

CBS is lying.   I've been watching for quite a while and the crowds are enormous towards the Lincoln Memorial.

Earlier in the day, the authorities were telling people by the Capitol Area Show (the other end of the mall area) to vacate due to the threat of severe lightning/thunder storms.  

 
 
 
bugsy
16.2.1  bugsy  replied to  XDm9mm @16.2    3 months ago

I flipped over to MSDNC just to see if they were showing the event, and "surprise", they were not. They are replaying the democratic debates that nobody watched the first time.

The liberal hate of this President obviously overshadows any inkling of patriotism they may have once had. Of course, those days are long gone.

BTW, I just saw a pan of the mall and the crowd stretches all the way back to the other end.

Bigger crowd than Obama's inauguration.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
17  JohnRussell    3 months ago

I watched the "show" on CBSN, which had no commentary of any kind, simply showing Trump's speech and the singers. 

What this thing proved more than ever is that Donald Trump is the worst public speaker to ever hold high office in America. He managed to make the story of the military down through American history sound disjointed, dull, and boring. 

This show would have been far far far better if Trump had sat there while a professional narrator or actor read the words that accompanied the flyovers. He simply butchered the transcript they gave him to read.  Of course if he just sat there listening along with everyone else the event wouldnt have been about him (which was the whole point of it after all).

The crowd seemed confused by his speaking as well. There were numerous times Trump said something that was supposed to get a crowd reaction, but didnt , and he had to pause to let the crowd know it was supposed to cheer. 

This thing was kind of the wet noodle of 4th of July patriotic displays. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
18  JohnRussell    3 months ago

Trump looks sad and disappointed at the small crowd size. He sounds like a robot, so the crowd doesn’t know when to clap. Lots of awkward pauses. And the glass around Trump is wet so you can’t even see him clearly. This is pathetic and embarrassing. This event is an epic failure.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
19  seeder  Jasper2529    3 months ago

Well, contrary to Trump haters' dreary, dismal, downer opinions here, "Salute to America" was a spectacular success. A unifying speech by the POTUS that covered our nation's history, spectacular fly-overs, and wonderful patriotic music.

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