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Responses to suggestion that those who support the racist Trump are racist themselves

  

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By:  john-russell  •  5 years ago  •  82 comments

Responses to suggestion that those who support the racist Trump are racist themselves

There was an article that laid out examples of Trumps racism, including of course the latest where he tells a group of minority group women to leave the country and go back "where they came from". 

The articles also says that if you continue to support Trump even after this racism you are racist yourself. 

How would Trump supporters respond?

Here is a sample


Just another serving of liberal spam

Sorry sunshine, but I am not obsessed with trying to find racism that doesn't exist,

How that came to mean a different country, as opposed to district, is your flawed perception at work - spring-loaded in the victim position.

And yet the President is correct.

The squad is crying on TV right now while Trump is making a country run.

He’s known for having a bad case of TDS.

Trump is not racist no matter how many times you allege it.

Quick question: What cities/States do they come from?

NOTHING to do with Race; it had to do with the "Non-American" names they bear.

Dumb bigot bitches need too clean their own local pig pens first.

she should be denounced daily until we get her out of Congress

Are You OK With A Racist President, Republicans?
Don't really consider myself a Rep or Dem but no, i'm not okay with it and since we don't have one, we are all set.



There was not a SINGLE comment on that article, from a Trump supporter that said Trump was wrong, that Trump is racist, or that they are no longer supporting Trump. Rather, the comments are full of doubling down and affirming Trump. 

People who want Trump gone have to realize that we are in a form of war.  Trump is not going to change, Trump supporters are not going to change, and the rest of us are called upon to defeat their candidates and their ideas. 





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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    5 years ago

This is basically why I object to any policy that does not allow us to criticize Trump supporters. To pretend that there is anything normal about supporting Donald Trump on topics like whether or not he is racist really does a disservice to our country. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 years ago

The article is so vacuous and ridiculous it does not even merit any further response.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1    5 years ago

Is that so? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 years ago

Doesn't this belong in META? jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg  

So anyone who doesn't accept your version of reality is racist??

You make ambiguous and false claims about Trump, all day, every day....and then expect everyone to agree with you. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

That's not going happen in the rational real world.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.2.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    5 years ago
You make ambiguous and false claims about Trump, all day, every day....and then expect everyone to agree with you

Pot.....meet Kettle..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    5 years ago

The purpose is not to have you agree with me Greg, it's to point Trump supporters out as the problem. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    5 years ago

The existence of the Trump Train is what is sad. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
1.2.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    5 years ago
That is kind of sad.

like Trumpp supporters ?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
1.2.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.7    5 years ago
all Trump supporters are still trying to get over his win in 2016.

No, 

i was saying Trumpp supporters make me sad.

.

Cause if you support this mental midget deficiency, and can't quite see, Y, so many get frustrated with U, U are obviously biased to a point of ignorance, in my opine.

It Dwarfs in comparison to not much else.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  author  JohnRussell    5 years ago

George Conway: Trump is a racist president

JULY 15, 2019

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To this day, I can remember almost the precise spot where it happened: a supermarket parking lot in eastern Massachusetts. It was the mid-1970s; I was not yet a teenager, or barely one. I don’t remember exactly what precipitated the woman’s ire. But I will never forget what she said to my mother, who had come to this country from the Philippines decades before. In these words or something close, the woman said, “Go back to your country.”

I remember the incident well, but it never bothered me all that much. Nor did racial slurs, which, thankfully, were rare. None of it was troublesome, to my mind, because most Americans weren’t like that. The woman in the parking lot was just a boor, an ignoramus, an aberration. America promised equality. Its constitution said so. My schoolbooks said so. The country wasn’t perfect, to be sure. But its ideals were. And every day brought us closer to those ideals.

To a young boy, it seemed like long ago that a descendant of slaves had  prophesied , five days before I was born, that his “four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” We would be there soon enough, if we weren’t there already. I couldn’t understand why colleges required applicants to check boxes for race or ethnicity. I’m also part Irish and Scottish. What box should I check? Should I check one at all? Will that help me or hurt me? Never mind, not to worry, those boxes would someday soon be gone.

How naive a child could be. The woman in the parking lot — there were many more like her, it turned out. They never went away. Today they attend rallies, and they post ugliness on Facebook or Twitter. As for the victims of historic racial oppression, no matter how much affirmative action (or reverse discrimination, or whatever you want to call it) the nation offered, they, too, had resentments that never went away — in part because of people like the parking-lot woman. Those resentments often led to more, not fewer, charges of racism as the years passed — charges of institutional racism and “white privilege.”

Which, in turn, bred another kind of resentment: Why, asked many an unaffluent white parent, who may never have uttered a racial slur or whose ancestors may never have held anyone in bondage, does my child have to check a box to her detriment, or be accused of “white privilege,” when the only privilege she has received came from the sweat of my brow? Why are people like me being called racist, when all I’ve done was mind my own business?

And how naive an adult could be. The  birther  imaginings about Barack Obama? Just a silly conspiracy theory, latched onto by an attention seeker who has a peculiar penchant for them. The “Mexican” Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel  incident ? Asinine, inappropriate, a terrible attack on the judiciary by an egocentric man who imagined that the judge didn’t like him. The white supremacists’ march in  Charlottesville ? The president’s comments were absolutely idiotic, but he couldn’t possibly have been referring to those self-described Nazis as “good people”; in his sloppy, inarticulate way, he was referring to both sides of the debate over Civil War statues, and venting his anger about being criticized.

No, I thought, President Trump was boorish, dim-witted, inarticulate, incoherent, narcissistic and insensitive. He’s a pathetic bully but an equal-opportunity bully — in his uniquely crass and crude manner, he’ll attack anyone he thinks is critical of him. No matter how much I found him ultimately unfit, I gave still him the benefit of the doubt about being a racist. No matter how much I came to dislike him, I didn’t want to think that the president of the United States is a racial bigot.

But Sunday left no doubt. Naivete, resentment and outright racism, roiled in a toxic mix, have given us a racist president. Trump could have used vile slurs, including the vilest of them all, and the intent and effect would have been no less clear.  Telling  four non-white members of Congress — American citizens all, three natural-born — to “go back” to the “countries” they “originally came from”? That’s racist to the core. It doesn’t matter what these representatives are for or against — and there’s plenty to criticize them for — it’s beyond the bounds of human decency. For anyone, not least a president.

What’s just as bad, though, is the virtual silence from Republican leaders and officeholders. They’re silent not because they agree with Trump. Surely they know better. They’re silent because, knowing that he’s incorrigible, they have inured themselves to his wild statements; because, knowing that he’s a fool, they don’t really take his words seriously and pretend that others shouldn’t, either; because, knowing how damaging Trump’s words are, the Republicans don’t want to give succor to their political enemies; because, knowing how vindictive, stubborn and obtusely self-destructive Trump is, they fear his wrath.

But none of that is good enough. Trump is not some random, embittered person in a parking lot — he’s the president of the United States. By virtue of his office, he speaks for the country. What’s at stake now is more important than judges or tax cuts or regulations or any policy issue of the day. What’s at stake are the nation’s ideals, its very soul.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
2.1  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

Her husband is a leftist never Trumper. KellyAnne stated emphatically today that she disagrees with her husband completely about this.

so John we really don’t care what leftist Trump haters say about our President.  Your next 5 1/2 years will be miserable for you given your hatred of our great president.

Trump 2020 in a landslide

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @2.1    5 years ago

The purpose is not to change your mind preacher, it's to point you out. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
2.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 years ago

Point away. I’m proud to stand with our president against the radical leftist, America hating Democrats

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
2.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 years ago

And condemn when they do not agree with you.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

And just today, his wife demands to know the ethnicity of a reporter asking her questions...

U can't make this $hit up

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  author  JohnRussell    5 years ago
What’s just as bad, though, is the virtual silence from Republican leaders and officeholders. They’re silent not because they agree with Trump. Surely they know better. They’re silent because, knowing that he’s incorrigible, they have inured themselves to his wild statements; because, knowing that he’s a fool, they don’t really take his words seriously and pretend that others shouldn’t, either; because, knowing how damaging Trump’s words are, the Republicans don’t want to give succor to their political enemies; because, knowing how vindictive, stubborn and obtusely self-destructive Trump is, they fear his wrath. But none of that is good enough. Trump is not some random, embittered person in a parking lot — he’s the president of the United States. By virtue of his office, he speaks for the country. What’s at stake now is more important than judges or tax cuts or regulations or any policy issue of the day. What’s at stake are the nation’s ideals, its very soul.
 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.1  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 years ago

Wrong again

Republicans Defend Trump Ahead of Vote to Condemn Tweets

HOUSE REPUBLICAN leadership came to President Donald Trump's defense on Tuesday as the Democratic-led House prepares to vote on a resolution condemning the president's tweets aimed at four Democratic congresswomen as "racist."

"I believe this is about ideology, this is about socialism vs. freedom," McCarthy said. "This is all about politics and beliefs of ideologies individuals have."

House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney of Wyoming echoed the sentiment, saying that the criticism of the four Democratic congresswomen doesn't have to with identity, race or religion.

"I want to make absolutely clear that our opposition to our socialist colleagues has absolutely nothing to do with their gender, with their religion or with their race," Cheney said. "It has to do with the content of their policies."

House GOP leaders defend Trump's racist attack on lawmakers

Updated 4:13 PM ET, Tue July 16, 2019

(CNN) - Leaders of the Republican Party in Congress on Tuesday came to the defense of President Donald Trump amid an intense backlash to racist comments from the President suggesting that four Democratic congresswomen of color should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."

"The President's not a racist," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said at a news conference Tuesday afternoon on Capitol Hill, responding to a question if Trump's comments were racist.

Scalise suggested that House Democrats have treated Trump worse than how House Republicans treated President Barack Obama, in part based on a growing swath of Democrats who advocate for opening an impeachment inquiry into Trump.

"As [Cheney] laid out, there a lot of policies that we had disagreements on with Speaker Pelosi and her socialist Democrats, just like we had disagreements with a lot of Barack Obama's policies," Scalise said. "But we never disrespected the office. I called him president of the United States, as we all did."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1    5 years ago
"The President's not a racist," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said at a news conference Tuesday afternoon on Capitol Hill, responding to a question if Trump's comments were racist.

There all sorts of examples of Trump's racism, it's not just this one incident. McConnell is almost as pathetic as Trump. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    5 years ago

You claimed Republicans were silent and not defending the President. You can’t admit you were wrong

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.2    5 years ago
You claimed Republicans were silent

That was George Conway. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.2    5 years ago

Yep. And not a word about how many leftist liberals condemned his predecessor for his various foulups in his eight years in office. It's a two way street.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.1.5  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    5 years ago

You did not place quotation marks or any attribution in that post. It was logical given your attitude to draw the conclusion that the post was your comment

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.6  author  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.1.5    5 years ago
What’s just as bad, though, is the virtual silence from Republican leaders and officeholders. They’re silent not because they agree with Trump. Surely they know better. They’re silent because, knowing that he’s incorrigible, they have inured themselves to his wild statements; because, knowing that he’s a fool, they don’t really take his words seriously and pretend that others shouldn’t, either; because, knowing how damaging Trump’s words are, the Republicans don’t want to give succor to their political enemies; because, knowing how vindictive, stubborn and obtusely self-destructive Trump is, they fear his wrath. But none of that is good enough. Trump is not some random, embittered person in a parking lot — he’s the president of the United States. By virtue of his office, he speaks for the country. What’s at stake now is more important than judges or tax cuts or regulations or any policy issue of the day. What’s at stake are the nation’s ideals, its very soul.

The grey bar on the left side is the indication it is in quotes. Thats the way Newstalkers works. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Just a couple  a months ago, the liberals on this site were perfectly fine  with yelling at someone to "go back to (insert home country)" and they  refused to believe that would take offense at having that screamed at them .

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5  Tacos!    5 years ago

You don't like Trump. That's fine. You don't have to.

You're mad because other people don't hate him as much you do. Why be mad? Does everyone have to agree with you?

Here's the real problem with all these seeds. Beyond the observations I just made, you have no point. What would you like everyone to do about it? Change our minds because you're just sooooo mad?? That's not realistic.

We have a solution, you know. It's called an election. We're getting ready to have one next year. If you want to see people take action you like, then point them at a superior candidate. Otherwise, you're just going to have to live with another 5 years of President Trump.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
5.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @5    5 years ago

Maybe he's a tad disappointed in the citizens and the commenters.

It is hard to believe what people are willing to excuse this Racist, Ignorant, Clown for, especially after so many realize now, how mentally Fucked he is.

Certainly is a permanent stain on our country.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1    5 years ago
people are willing to excuse

What do you mean by "excuse?" What would you have them do instead? Say that they disapprove? People have been disapproving of Donald Trump for 50 years. He consistently has the worst disapproval ratings of any politician. We weren't asked for "nicest man" in 2016. It's kind of silly now to pretend that we were.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
5.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.1    5 years ago
What do you mean by "excuse?"

This POS LIES to US All, EVERY FRICKEN DAY, yet ,

i hear people make excuses for him , here and about, and i just don't get it.

People Fckd up, and voted in a FAR Worse candidate than Hillary, as she wouldn't get a pass, if she passed gas, yet this fckn a whole 

lot of Bullshit, who should be in jail with his attorney, can do and say anything and is defended by a blind ignorant group, who have shown me,I was exactly correct whence forth i read comments from the old NewsVine , and came up with

IGKNORANTZRULZ  

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There is NO EXCUSE for TRumpp, 

and that is a sad thing for this once great country.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
5.1.3  livefreeordie  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.2    5 years ago

256

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
5.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.3    5 years ago

I'm not an enemy of the damn republic, i am an enemy of igknorantz ruling our damn country !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.3    5 years ago

DON'T GIVE UP THE SHIT !

DON'T LIE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THEIR EYES !

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
Professor Quiet
7  Citizen Kane-473667    5 years ago

You sit there and call anyone who doesn't agree with you a Racist and then moan and complain when you get told (in the nicest way possible of course) to go fuck yourself. Now you want to garner permission to launch Personal Attacks against anyone who dares to have a differing opinion than yours and again are surprised when people tell you (in the nicest way possible of course) to again go fuck yourself.

Maybe a little masturbation would indeed help to relieve some of your stress...just a suggestion of course--in the nicest way possible!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
7.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @7    5 years ago
go fuck yourself.

if i could

i would

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
Professor Quiet
7.1.1  Citizen Kane-473667  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.1    5 years ago

Why can't you? Are you paralyzed or something? If you are, jut tell your nurse that area just needs a little extra attention. Maybe you'll get lucky...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @7    5 years ago

Frankly, this garbage truck fire started rolling down hill the day Trump lied and said he had private investigators in Hawaii investigating President Obama's birth certificate. In and of itself it showed he was racist, a liar and unbelievably incompetent. (The state of Hawaii had already by then officially announced that the birth certificate was safe and sound in the state archives and had been personally inspected by Hawaii health dept officials. ) Trump was humiliated by that episode, and but for one thing his career in politics would have been over. That one thing?  The existence of the "deplorables", a group waiting for a "hero", whether or not he was a lying pos. 

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
Professor Quiet
7.2.1  Citizen Kane-473667  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    5 years ago
The existence of the "deplorables", a group waiting for a "hero", whether or not he was a lying pos. 

Show me ANY politician who ISN'T a lying PoS and I'll kiss your ass in public--and give you 30 days to sell tickets in advance (but we are splitting the money 75-25 because I'm having to do all the work. You're just going to be my lovely assistant).

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @7.2.1    5 years ago

CK- I will pay you not to do that. JR isn't worth it, and any proof he offers will be from a site or organization that is so left leaning it would make Putin blanch.

Seriously, going to need industrial strength clorox bleach to try and wipe that thought from my mind. Thankfully wasn't eating when I read it.

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
Professor Quiet
7.2.4  Citizen Kane-473667  replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.3    5 years ago

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago

Out of curiosity, John, does agreeing with his policies and actions concerning Israel, while being angry about his trade policies (both NAFTA and China) that force me to spend more of my meagre pension than before, and really not caring about anything else about him because I'm not an American anyway STILL mean, in your eyes that I am a Trump supporter?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10    5 years ago

You are a Trump supporter, because you have often taken his side without even knowing the details of what the particular fuss at the time was about. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    5 years ago

Well, maybe so, because you see, you and I are very different. First of all, I believe that an anthem and a flag represent a country, not a temporary government - I respect them and it pains me to see a flag burning and a person disrespecting their country's anthem.  As well, because of my training, which you never had, I believe one should always consider both sides of a story, not be totally obsessed by one and not even look at the other.  Sometimes I just enjoy playing Devil's Advocate, sometimes just to tease you since you take it so seriously. But I can understand YOUR side of the story, that you feel Trump is not fit to be POTUS, and that he is disrespected throughout most of the world due to his many traits and personality, but he happens to be YOUR POTUS, like it or not, and he isn't mine.  Frankly, from what I'm seeing, I think he'll be your POTUS for a second term as well, so save your strength and your sensibility because you are a valuable member of NT and we wouldn't want to lose you. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11  author  JohnRussell    5 years ago

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It Is ME
Masters Guide
12  It Is ME    5 years ago

Based on what is "Racist" palpable now....This article is Racist ! jrSmiley_1_smiley_image.png

I just don't like it ! jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif

 
 

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