Ken Cuccinelli just took his racist interpretation of the Statue of Liberty poem to another level

  
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Ken Cuccinelli just took his racist interpretation of the Statue of Liberty poem to another level
The poem only refers to welcoming "people from Europe," he claimed this week. By admitting that he believed the invitation to immigrants only applies to Europeans, Cuccinelli was saying the quiet part out loud — that Trump’s immigration policy is designed to institutionalize racism.

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Ken Cuccinelli, acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) was roundly criticized for comments he made Tuesday on NPR suggesting that the Statue of Liberty’s poem was only meant to welcome immigrants “who can stand on their own two feet.”


Tuesday evening, he doubled down by suggesting the poem only applied to “people coming from Europe, where they had class-based societies.”


CNN host Erin Burnett was grilling Cuccinelli about his earlier remarks, noting that the Emma Lazarus poem   The New Colossus , written in 1883 and inscribed on the Statue of Liberty in 1903, specifically describes people who have nothing.


“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” the poem excerpt reads, “the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”


It does not refer to people who can “stand on their own two feet,” as Cuccinelli had said earlier in the day.


Burnett asked Cuccinelli what he believed America stood for. Cuccinelli responded that the poem only referred to class-based societies in Europe, “where people were considered ‘wretched’ if they weren’t in the right class.”


He justified his reinterpretation claiming other laws passed in the early 20th century were similar to the new public charge rule the Trump administration is imposing, which limits legal immigrants from receiving any kind of public assistance.


Burnett noted that under the new rules, her own grandfather would not have been able to come to the United States.


Cuccinelli is not the first Trump official to try to distort   The New Colossus   in an attempt to justify the administration’s xenophobic immigration policies. Senior policy adviser Stephen Miller, the architect of all of these anti-immigration efforts, tried to downplay the significance of the poem two years ago because the poem was only added later, decades after the statue’s construction had completed.


In August 2017, Miller was defending his proposal to restrict immigration to only those who speak English fluently. CNN’s Jim Acosta asked him whether this comported with Lazarus’ words about how welcoming the country should be. “The poem that you’re referring to, that was added later, is not actually a part of the original Statue of Liberty,” Miller responded.


While it’s technically true that the plaque bearing an excerpt of the poem was only added in 1903, the poem was composed in 1883 as part of the original fundraising efforts for the pedestal of the statue. The pedestal was only completed in 1886, following which the statue was assembled and then dedicated that same year.


Many white supremacists, including former KKK grand wizard David Duke and neo-Nazi Richard Spencer, have likewise criticized the poem.   Duke believes   Lazarus was “anxious to turn America into a refuge for the castoffs of the world,” while   Spencer once described   the inscription as embodying “ugliness, weakness, and deformity.”


By admitting that he believed the invitation to immigrants only applies to Europeans, Cuccinelli was saying the quiet part out loud — that Trump’s immigration policy is designed to institutionalize racism.


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

https://www.wonkette.com/chiudi-la-bocca-is-italian-for-shut-your-mouth-in-case-ken-cuccinelli-was-wondering

Acting US Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Ken Cuccinelli has been spending this past week running frantically from microphone to microphone, demonstrating just how little he knows about the history of immigration in this country, shaming his own immigrant ancestors by expressing his sincerest desire to be even shittier to today's immigrants than people were to them, and promising a return to a time in American history that we all once considered pretty darned shameful. At the moment, he appears to be incapable of shutting up.

Following  yesterday's poetry slam at NPR,  Cuccinelli appeared on CNN's OutFront with Erin Burnett in order to dig the hole even deeper. This time, he attempted to explain that Emma Lazarus's poem referred exclusively to European immigrants and the only reason they were considered "wretched" and "poor" was because of how Europe had a class system and we did not. Yes, people who were not actually all that poor eagerly left everything and everyone they ever knew, in order to move to a country where they didn't know anyone and didn't speak the language, because they didn't want to live in a country with lords and ladies.


Of course, there were a whole lot of very racist people at the time, and most of those very racist people did want to limit immigration to just immigrants from Northern Europe. Heck! That was the same year they passed another famous immigration law, the one that banned Chinese immigrants. And yet, given that the Statue of Liberty itself was a big ol'  "Congratulations on not enslaving black people anymore!"  present from France, it  does  seem unlikely that this was the case here.

Cuccinelli also somehow tried to suggest, for the second time this week, that by sheer virtue of having been written a year before Lazarus's  The New Colossus , the Immigration Act of 1882 could not possibly have been as repulsive as it obviously was.

Well of course that poem was referring to people coming from Europe [It wasn't, we actually had immigrants from all over at that time] where they had class-based societies [So did America! It was the Gilded Age!], where people were considered wretched if they weren't in the right class. [Nope! They were actually, for real, very poor.]

And it was introduced, it was written one year after the first federal public charge rule was written that says, and I'll quote it, any person unable to take care of himself without becoming a 'public charge' would be inadmissible. Or, in the terms that my agency deals with, they can't do what's called adjusting status, getting a green card, becoming legal residents.

You know what? Let's quote the whole thing, shall we? Because it seems as though he left some parts out.

"If on such examination there shall be found among such passengers any convict, lunatic, idiot, or any person unable to take care of him or herself without becoming a public charge, they shall report the same in writing to the collector of such port, and such person shall not be permitted to land."

Oh my, yes. These two things definitely very similar expressions of the same American spirit! In fact, it's honestly just surprising that we didn't think to inscribe the text of that Act on the other side of the Statue of Liberty, so that all Americans can feel proud and nostalgic for a time when it was normal to refer to disabled people as "idiots." So heartwarming!

Cuccinelli also speaks glowingly of the fact that the 1882 law was even "broadened" in the years following, somehow failing to mention that said "broadening" involved the exclusion of specific ethnic groups.

I only have one thing left to say  -

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

 
 
 
MUVA
2  MUVA    2 weeks ago

I like the new addition good job Ken.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @2    2 weeks ago

You agree then that the statue of liberty only applies to people from Europe? 

 
 
 
charger 383
2.1.1  charger 383  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago

where did it come from and which way does it face? 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
2.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago

Red herring.  US immigration law REQUIRES immigrants and or sponsors to certify that they will not need social welfare benefits.  All the Trump Administration is doing is to actually enforce laws passed by Congress.

that is the core of this hatred by the left.  Unlike Establishment Republicans, Trump actually carries out these laws that the Democrats passed but with a wink and a nod that no president would enforce them

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

I'm sure you have a citation for that?  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  charger 383 @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

so you endorse the idea that only europeans should immigrate to the us? 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  charger 383 @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

i'm guessin the gay Pare E, 

facing the,

rest room, where U would B

European, 

or full of excremental affairs 

of the wasted 

heart, but in Trump's case, with less 

vane

 
 
 
squiggy
2.1.6  squiggy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

"In fact, preventing the immigration of people who couldn’t support themselves was the subject of the very first immigration law ever passed in the colonies , in Massachusetts Bay in 1645 ."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trumps-commonsense-rule-on-immigrant-welfare-use/ar-AAFK17i

... a story of common sense you likely glossed over.

 
 
 
charger 383
2.1.7  charger 383  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

Right now we don't need any

 
 
 
Sunshine
2.1.8  Sunshine  replied to  squiggy @2.1.6    2 weeks ago

There was a time when legally migrating to the US people had to have some money, someone they knew in the US, and a place to stay.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.10  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago

No I think people shouldn’t get benefits if the are not a actual citizen personally I would like to see more blacks from Africa allowed to immigrate.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
2.1.11  livefreeordie  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/affidavit-support

I’ve been through this process so I have first hand knowledge

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1.12  igknorantzrulz  replied to  MUVA @2.1.10    2 weeks ago

That's probably,

Trump's thoughts as well

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @2.1.10    2 weeks ago

Your 'president' only wants white folks

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3  Dismayed Patriot    2 weeks ago

“Give me your somewhat tired but still very energetic, your poorest rich people, your sparsely huddled cliques yearning to let their money make more money, refuse the wretched off our teeming shores. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to anywhere but here. Quick! Hide! I extinguish my lamp beside the golden door so no one else can get in!” - The Trump Doctrine

 
 
 
charger 383
4  charger 383    2 weeks ago

We don't need other places problems 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5  Trout Giggles    2 weeks ago

Did trmp's mother have a sponsor or a job when she came to America?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    2 weeks ago

No

but unfortunately,

she had a functioning reproduction system, that is 

hopefully,

never reproduced

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1    2 weeks ago

But it did reproduce....much to our dismay

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

dismay,

June,

& Julyin F you B thinkin that far too many were

not produced, with the shallow 

abnormal disability, to reason beyond the easy X cuses "litres" would use , via quarts, and N E utter sorts, 

N dis ability

to change the "make up" of our Country, of immigrants, granted less and less, to keep more and more, for the few to few, White ,001%  crew, of thrown overboard logic, as U noticed during the recent  cold ICE raids,

how many EMPLOYERS were arrested ?

WHo is benefitting from illegals doing the jobs todays America, thinks are below them...

not the masses being manipulated to hate "different" peep wholes

they can't even see, as it a piers moore, than their vision can encompass, for when a convex lens concaves in, so many are left 

out

in the cold ICE

...

speaking of cold ice, get me a fckn beer , bar keep, i got DRINKIN to do

b 4 i sleep

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Too bad momma didn't swallow.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

oh she did,

N it's what she Spit

that should have US All give a $hit

 
 
 
freepress
6  freepress    2 weeks ago

Republicans happy to throw the Constitution and the Statue of Liberty under the bus rather than admit they failed on immigration over the last 50 years. What did Reagan do? What did Bush do? What did every Republican border state do? NOTHING. Republicans supported Amnesty to appease Republican wealthy donors who employ and exploit immigrant labor.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  freepress @6    2 weeks ago

Maybe Jan Brewer could have taken her finger out of Pres Obama's face long enough to get something done.

 
 
 
Jim Greene
7  Jim Greene    2 weeks ago

The Statue Of Antipathy.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
7.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Jim Greene @7    2 weeks ago

I N Joy

the apathy 

of most resistance, as i N joy braking the Laws of Physics, as

i just 

can't Stop

 
 
 
Tacos!
8  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

I watched the video. If people are trying to turn what was said into the idea that Cuccinelli thinks immigrants should only come from Europe, that is not what he said.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 weeks ago

i didn't,

so what was he ACTUALLY trying to say, ?

please do inform US les enlightened .

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.1    2 weeks ago

I wish I could say it simply, but it's so nuanced, I can't help but be wordy. Apologies.

So anyway the seed says this:

The poem only refers to welcoming "people from Europe," he claimed this week. By admitting that he believed the invitation to immigrants only applies to Europeans, Cuccinelli was saying the quiet part out loud — that Trump’s immigration policy is designed to institutionalize racism.

He was talking about the increasing effort to bring in immigrants who won't be on the public dole in any way - something we have already done for years, though arguably to a limited extent. He was not talking about what nationality or ethnicity of people should be allowed in.

He was saying that when the poem went up on the Statue of Liberty there was already a sentiment at that time that immigrants should not be a financial burden on society. (Of course that wasn't such a big deal in the 1800s, before welfare programs)

As partial support for this idea, he said Emma Lazarus (the poet) was referencing the class system in Europe. Maybe she was? I have no idea and I don't know how he would know that.

Anyway, his interpretation was that the term "wretched refuse" referred to people who were perceived in Europe as being in the wrong class - his point being that America welcomed all classes of people to immigrate (including those thought of as "wretched" in Europe) but though we didn't want people who weren't going to support themselves financially. 

He never said anything like the invitation to immigrants extends only to Europeans. He was contrasting social status and financial stability. Ethnicity and/or race or nationality had nothing to do with it.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    2 weeks ago

Nobody wants a bunch of freeloaders coming here to abuse our safety net sysytems, but,

it's been my experience, that these "freeloaders" outwork the fck out of young Americans who believe the world owes them something, because ...

they are American ???        The World owes them nothing, they've proven to be lazy overmedicated stupid fricken generations of kids, whom feel entitles, due to our society, which in my opinion, entitled them to feel that way.

.

I believe your interpretation of his inferred intent, is far too generous, again, just my opine, now, how bout some more wine ?

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.1.2    2 weeks ago
these "freeloaders" outwork the fck out of young Americans who believe the world owes them something

Very often, that's true.

I believe your interpretation of his inferred intent

I don't believe I'm trying to "interpret" anything. I'm just repeating what the guy said. It's the writer of the article accusing him of racism who is doing the interpreting.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
8.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @8.1.1    2 weeks ago
I wish I could say it simply, but it's so nuanced

I'm sorry, but there was nothing "nuanced" about his statement. He made the new Trump doctrine very easy to understand. It was, in its simplest form "Sorry Suckers! We got here first and there's no more room, especially for you poor brown people! So fornicate off!".

It was specially tailored for those lazy piece of trash white supremacists and white nationalists who have had their wife beaters in a bunch over what they imagined was an attack on their ignorant "white culture".

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.4    2 weeks ago
It was, in its simplest form "Sorry Suckers! We got here first and there's no more room, especially for you poor brown people! So fornicate off!".

If you have to completely invent words and phrasing to make claims about what someone was saying, you might be full of shit.

Come back to me when you're ready to discuss what the man actually said.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 weeks ago

I love the Rumpsplanations about how this is 'what he meant to say'.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    2 weeks ago

Y,

would an interpreter,

be CONSTANTLY needed to Inform US, what Trump, and Cump, 

R ALWAYS TRYING TO SAY... ?

just sayin...

not much for ignorant America out of touch

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    2 weeks ago

How is that any different from his critics telling us what he was "really" saying?

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.2.1    2 weeks ago
Y,

would an interpreter,

be CONSTANTLY needed to Inform US, what Trump, and Cump, 

R ALWAYS TRYING TO SAY... ?

Maybe because people keep lying about what he's really meaning when he or anyone connected to him speaks. Everything is racist to these people.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.2.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.3    2 weeks ago

Or maybe, we could have a PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, intelligent enough to explain, what he's constantly having to have questioned, cause HE LIES about so much, HOW can N E One, NOT QUESTION WHAT HE IS SAYING ???????

LIES, are Y I don't Believe Trump.

His ridiculous 'racist' tweets r Y i don't believe Trumps' intentions are pure.

His actions/inactions on SO DAMN MUCH is Y i don't believe Trump.

His appointtees of the antithesis of the reason for his cabinet positions, is Y I DON"T BELIEVE TRUMPP.

Actions , as well as his STUPID words, R Y NONE SHOULD BELIEVE TRUMPP

.

but here you are, still defending the Liar in Chief,

Good Grief, i hope Lucy pulls the football out at the last second again

 
 
 
r.t..b...
8.2.5  r.t..b...  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.2.4    2 weeks ago
Or maybe, we could have a PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, intelligent enough to explain, what he's constantly having to have questioned, cause HE LIES about so much, HOW can N E One, NOT QUESTION WHAT HE IS SAYING ???????

The bottom line. The murky line that is constantly having to be explained away. It is all about maintaining their tenuous at best, and always transitory, grip on power.

"All things are subject to interpretation...whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.6  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.2.4    2 weeks ago
here you are, still defending the Liar in Chief

Do you realize that both this seed and my comment were not about Trump? Both are about the words of Ken Cuccinelli, acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Your obsession with Trump is not relevant here. Maybe you could try to focus on that.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.2.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.6    2 weeks ago

Who appointed this Clown again ?

Whose agenda is he implementing again ?

Whose Administration does this dumb fck work for again ?

I'll focus on the ACTUAL ROOT of the damn problem, and that is the ABORTION in OUR White House

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.2.8  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.2.7    2 weeks ago

You just can't bring yourself to stay on topic, can you? Get back to me when you want to discuss the seed.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.2.9  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @8.2.8    2 weeks ago

i orally ingest,

topical solutions, on occasion.

We had a discussion, and it turned to WHY does this guy need his words explained.

The reason is, Trump.

So please do forgive me for giving you my opinion to as the root of what peoples truly mean and are attempting to say, cause only one perception counts.

I don't recall ever, a potUS, having to have his pathetic words constantly justified and explained, as to what he was 'truly' saying, as he doubles down after ole Kelley Anne got done explaing what Trump 'Really' meant, sorta, like ole Kenny boy here.

The guy TRUMP appointed, with a known bias against non white immigrants, to head a post, where bearing on ones beliefson immigrants, might affect decision process.Trump specializes in appointing the antithesis of cabinets, so  to  me

, it is VERY relevant, as to WHY do we have to AGAIN, attempt to figure out what this guybis SAYING, cause what he IS saying

, says A LOT,

about himself, AND the policies of the Clown who put him there !

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  igknorantzrulz @8.2.7    2 weeks ago

He's an abomination that should have been aborted

 
 
 
livefreeordie
8.2.11  livefreeordie  replied to  Tessylo @8.2.10    one week ago

Even abominations like Obama, Pelosi, AOC, and other Democrats should not have been murdered via abortion

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.11    one week ago

Abortion is not murder.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
8.2.13  livefreeordie  replied to  Tessylo @8.2.12    one week ago

Murder is the deliberate taking of an innocent life. What crime has a baby in a womb committed that deserves death?

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.13    one week ago

Abortion is not murder.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
8.2.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.13    one week ago
Murder is the deliberate taking of an innocent life

Is sperm alive?

"Yes, it’s certainly as alive as any other cells in a male body. Since it can have a life of its own outside the body, each sperm is really an independent single-celled organism – like a living amoeba, but differing in locomotion and lifestyle.

From an evolutionary viewpoint, it’s the other cells in a male animal that are pretty much dead: only the sperm can reproduce."
No one is going to start arresting people for masturbating, are they? So it isn't a debate as to whether something that is "alive" is terminated, it's about when the law gives those living cells rights which is at viability. So quit with the hyperbolic rhetoric accusing women and doctors of being murderers. It's as much of a lie as calling the Michael Brown tragic killing a "murder" when it was not defined such by the legal system as so many conservatives here enjoyed pointing out.
 
 
 
livefreeordie
8.2.16  livefreeordie  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.2.15    one week ago

Red Herring

Sperm is not human life by any scientific or religious definition 

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.16    one week ago

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
8.2.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.16    one week ago
Red Herring Sperm is not human life by any scientific or religious definition 

It's not a red herring, it's a sperm. It is one half of the living cells needed to make a human. All I'm pointing out is that you want to define "life" as starting at conception when the fact is, it starts much earlier. So really we're debating where along the chain we call it a human. You want it as soon as those two parts come together, the law puts the line at when those two cells have grown to the point that they can survive outside the womb without assistance of the mother. You don't get to define the law, thus its not murder no matter how much you wish it were.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.2.19  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.16    one week ago

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MrFrost
8.2.20  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @8.2.13    one week ago
Murder is the deliberate taking of an innocent life.

Yet you support the unrestricted sales of firearms that have no purpose other than to kill innocent human lives. Coming pretty close to hypocrisy there Larry. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
8.2.21  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @8.2.20    one week ago

Not hypocrisy at all.  Self defense is a fundamental human right and no other rights exist without that fundamental right.

even Jesus told His followers to buy weapons of self defense

Luke 22:35,36

And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?”

So they said, “Nothing.”

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.“

The Greek text here for sword is machaira

it means a large knife, dagger, or short sword.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9  MrFrost    one week ago

It's been there 116 years, but now we need to change it because Trump hates people with brown skin? 

Trump, with all due respect, (none), go fuck yourself you ignorant bottom feeding piece of whale shit. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
9.1  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @9    one week ago

Typical leftist hate filled post because the president enforces US law rather than a silly poem that has no relevance to law

US immigration law REQUIRES immigrants and or sponsors to certify that they will not need social welfare benefits.  All the Trump Administration is doing is to actually enforcing laws passed by Congress.

that is the core of this hatred by the left.  Unlike Establishment Republicans, Trump actually carries out these laws that the Democrats passed but with a wink and a nod that no president would enforce them

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/affidavit-support

I’ve been through this process so I have first hand knowledge

 
 
 
bbl-1
9.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  livefreeordie @9.1    one week ago

"core of this hatred by the left."  The vinyl continues to skip.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @9.1    one week ago

So you don't believe in American values? How shocking. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
9.1.3  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.2    one week ago

Enforcing US law IS an American value

 
 
 
livefreeordie
9.1.4  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @9.1.2    one week ago

Strict immigration IS an American value, not some poem.

Founders and past presidents on immigration held strict views on immigration quite different from the open borders, welfare state left

In a 1790 House debate on naturalization, James Madison opined: “It is no doubt very desirable that we should hold out as many inducements as possible for the worthy part of mankind to come and settle amongst us, and throw their fortunes into a common lot with ours. But why is this desirable?”

Not merely to swell the catalogue of people. No, sir, it is to increase the wealth and strength of the community; and those who acquire the rights of citizenship, without adding to the strength or wealth of the community are not the people we are in want of.”

Hamilton, Alexander

Founding father

"The opinion advanced [by Jefferson,] is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind; to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners. They will also entertain opinions on government congenial with those under which they have lived; or, if they should be led hither from a preference to ours, how extremely unlikely is it that they will bring with them that temperate love of liberty, [italics in original] so essential to real republicanism? There may, as to particular individuals, and at particular times, be occasional exceptions to these remarks, yet such is the general rule. The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency."

("Examinations of Jefferson's Message to Congress of December 7th, 1801," Jan. 12, 1802)

Thomas Jefferson

"Yet from such [absolute monarchies], we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. Their principles with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us in the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass."

("Notes on Virginia," 1782)

Washington, George

First President, founding father

"My opinion, with respect to emigration, is that except of useful mechanics and some particular descriptions of men or professions, there is no need of encouragement, while the policy or advantage of its taking place in a body...may be much questioned; for, by so doing, they retain the Language, habits, and principles (good or bad) which they bring with them."

(Letter to John Adams, Nov. 15, 1794)

John Adams, Former President, founding father

(Referring to applicants for public office)

"Among the number of applications..., cannot we find an American capable and worthy of the trust? ...Why should we take the bread out of the mouths of our own children and give it to strangers?"

(Letter to Sec. State John Marshall, Aug. 14, 1800)

Franklin, Benjamin

Founding father

"The importation of foreigners into a country that has as many inhabitants as the present employments and provisions for subsistence will bear, will be in the end no increase of people, unless the new comers have more industry and frugality than the natives, and then they will provide more subsistence, and increase in the country; but they will gradually eat the natives out. Nor is it necessary to bring in foreigners to fill up any occasional vacancy in a country for such vacancy will soon be filled by natural generation."

("Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind and the Peopling of Countries," 1751)

Coolidge, Calvin

Former President

"American institutions rest solely on good citizenship. They were created by people who had a background of self-government. New arrivals should be limited to our capacity to absorb them into the ranks of good citizenship. America must be kept American. For this purpose, it is necessary to continue a policy of restricted immigration. It would lie well to make such immigration of a selective nature with some inspection at the source, and based either on a prior census or upon the record of naturalization. Either method would insure the admission of those with the largest capacity and best intention of becoming citizens. I am convinced that our present economic and social conditions warrant a limitation of those to be admitted. We should find additional safety in a law requiring the immediate registration of all aliens. Those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit ought not to settle in America." 

(First Message to Congress, December 1923)

 
 
 
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9.1.5  bbl-1  replied to  livefreeordie @9.1.3    4 days ago

Dred Scott decision was an American value?

 
 
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