Joe Biden, Recalling ’68, Asks Audience to Imagine Obama’s Assassination

  
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Joe Biden, Recalling ’68, Asks Audience to Imagine Obama’s Assassination
“Things changed,” he continued. “You had over 40 kids shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn by the National Guard.” The shooting in question, in May 1970 during a Vietnam War protest, in fact ended with four students shot dead and nine wounded.

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HANOVER, N.H. — Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Friday took a series of unusual rhetorical detours at the end of a town-hall-style campaign event nominally dedicated to health care, speculating about how a political assassination of Barack Obama might have affected the country in 2008 and recalling that he was accused of being gay because of his support of women’s rights in the 1970s.
After speaking about the health care plan he introduced last month and taking a few questions, Mr. Biden grew most animated as he recalled the fraught political era of 1968, when he was in his final year of law school, and two of his political heroes, Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, were assassinated within weeks of each other.

My senior semester they were both shot and killed,” Mr. Biden said. “Imagine what would have happened if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee. What would have happened in America?”
I think of where we are at the moment. You know, none of you men are old — women are old enough, but a couple of you guys are old enough to remember. I graduated in 1968. Everybody before me was, drop out, go to Haight-Ashbury, don’t trust anybody over 30, everybody not getting involved. I’m serious, I know no woman will shake their head and acknowledge it, but you guys know what I’m talking about. Right? But then what happened? Dr. Ki— I only have two political heroes. I have one hero who was my dad, but I have two political heroes were Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy. My senior semester they were both shot and killed. Imagine what would have happened if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee. What would have happened in America?
“Things changed,” he continued. “You had over 40 kids shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn by the National Guard.” The shooting in question, in May 1970 during a Vietnam War protest, in fact ended with four students shot dead and nine wounded.
Mr. Biden, 76, was making the point that events of the late 1960s and early ’70s raised his political awareness and propelled him into a political career. He ran successfully for the United States Senate in 1972 at age 29.
A campaign spokesman said Mr. Biden had previously drawn an analogy between an Obama assassination and the political killings of 1968 when speaking to younger audiences not alive at the time.
In 2008, running for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hillary Clinton drew criticism when she referenced the political assassinations of 1968 as she defended staying in the long primary battle against Mr. Obama. She noted first that Bill Clinton had not wrapped up the nomination until June 1992, and then added, “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.”
At the event on Friday, Mr. Biden also recalled his early support for women’s rights, including the Equal Rights Amendment, and how he was he was sneered at for being on the edge of social change. He said critics had said, “Well, you know why Biden is for the E.R.A., he’s probably gay.”
But here’s the deal. An entire generation was energized. We finally finished the Voting Rights Act. We finally got the Civil Rights Act back on the road. We finally were in a position where we started to begin the women’s movement, and began to treat women — I remember because I was such a big supporter of the E.R.A in 1972, quote — to show you how things have changed, thank God — “Well, you know why Biden is for the E.R.A., he’s probably gay.” Not a joke.
Mr. Biden, the front-runner in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, compared his political awakening in his 20s to the present moment, asking how many members of the audience, on the campus of Dartmouth College, were high school or college students.
About 40 hands went up in the audience of several hundred.
“Unless I’m mistaken, Donald Trump did for your generation what the loss of two of my heroes did for mine,” he told the students, adding, “What they did was make you realize, my God, we’re in trouble.”
Mr. Biden’s walk-off line was a mic drop. Wondering if anyone two years ago would have believed a movie about the Trump administration so far, he invoked Mr. Trump calling himself “the chosen one” while speaking to reporters outside the White House this week.
“I am the savior,” Mr. Biden intoned, paraphrasing the president.
“I mean, come on, man,” Mr. Biden said. “I mean. Anyway. Good night, folks.”

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KDMichigan
1  seeder  KDMichigan    4 weeks ago

And this is the democrats front runner. The sad part is as demented as he is he is the most sane of the other candidates and their platform of free shit for everyone.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  KDMichigan @1    4 weeks ago

Maybe he was angling for the conservative vote by just saying out loud what so many of them had been wishing for over the last decade...

“Imagine what would have happened if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee. What would have happened in America?”

"What do you think we'd been praying for?!"... Thank goodness their God either didn't listen or, more likely, doesn't exist.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.1  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    4 weeks ago
by just saying out loud what so many of them had been wishing for over the last decade...

Funny that I've never heard a conservative say that but here you are with them same ideas. I'm not religious but it's obvious some people need god in there life. SMH

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  KDMichigan @1    4 weeks ago

Four people were killed, nine injured.  Obama was born in '61 - who would want to assassinate a 7 year old in South Asia???

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

Joe is plain stupid, I don't know what else to say. He's a water head.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.1  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2    4 weeks ago
“You had over 40 kids shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn by the National Guard.”

In this day and age with the democrat sheep this comment alone scares me. The history of democrats attacking cops and ice agents, now we have them digging shit up from the past and attacking the National guard with fake statistics.

 
 
 
Tacos!
3  Tacos!    4 weeks ago

It is apparent to me that Biden wants to get voters angry so they will vote for him. That's fine, but it clearly doesn't matter if they have a genuine reason to be angry because he can always make one up, and the more outrageous, the better.

In 2012, he told a mostly black audience that Republicans were going to put them back in chains. Not only was this not true, but it implied that the people in the room had once been "in chains" (i.e. slaves, I suppose) themselves. Therefore, they had even more reason to be angry and vote with Biden.

Now, he wants voters to imagine something horrible like Obama being assassinated and use that emotion to cast a vote for his poor former VP. Doesn't it just tear at your heart? Barack Obama, the hope of a generation, brutally murdered, and there is his buddy Joe, left to carry away the body and try to rebuild a shattered country. Just like LBJ after Kennedy was shot.

He also wants this crowd to get angry about Kent State 50 years later. While that was a terrible thing, there is no reason to bring it up now, other than to get the crowd angry. And as bad as that massacre was, he makes it worse by inflating the already sufficiently bad numbers. 

“You had over 40 kids shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn by the National Guard.”

No, Joe, 13 kids were shot, with four of them dying. That's terrible enough, but it wasn't "over 40."

And as if this weren't enough, he manages to tie it all to Trump.

“Unless I’m mistaken, Donald Trump did for your generation what the loss of two of my heroes did for mine,”

Now what is that supposed to mean? Is Joe putting Trump in the role of shooting MLK and students at Kent State? Is he trying to make voters think that Trump is having modern day heroes executed? Is his audience supposed to think of Trump as a murderer as they head out to vote? Sure seems that way.

This is a pretty disgusting way to get elected.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @3    4 weeks ago

Biden is as dishonest and divisive as they come but since he's a liberal who plays up the "aw shucks, I'm just middle class Joe" angle, he gets a pass from the same people who claim Trump is "lying" for stating actual, provable facts. 

All you need to know about Biden is that he was willing to lie about a drunk driver killing his family for political gain. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4  Perrie Halpern R.A.    4 weeks ago

Wait and we are giving a pass to a President who says "he is the chosen one". Do you realize that is straight out of the Stephen King novel, "The Dead Zone". That didn't end well. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    4 weeks ago

I didn't think we could find a bigger Idiot to run for president then Trump but we did.

Meet Joe!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1    4 weeks ago

So you are fine with meaningless decrees to American industry about their business in china, and a man who thinks he is the "Chosen one". I find that really scary.

Joe does say stupid things, but you seem to selectively give a pass to Trump's stupid things he says and Joe not so much. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.2  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

Company's should divest on their own using basically slave labor and getting into bed with a totalitarian government isn't good business it is greed.I remember during apartheid company's were shamed into divestment.  

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.3  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

Your selective outrage is breath taking. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1    4 weeks ago
I didn't think we could find a bigger Idiot to run for president then Trump but we did.

Donald-Trump-Funny-Memes-Imagine-If-You-

 
 
 
WallyW
4.1.5  WallyW  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

Joe does say stupid things, but you seem to selectively give a pass to Trump's stupid things he says and Joe not so much. 

Many of us have figured out what Trump is doing, why he says the things he does, in the way he does. And we don't think Trump is stupid. We know better.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  WallyW @4.1.5    4 weeks ago
Many of us have figured out what Trump is doing, why he says the things he does, in the way he does. And we don't think Trump is stupid. We know better.

Wally, a man is his words. Saying he is the "chosen one" and you thinking that is OK under some sort of pretext is very disturbing. You would not be so generous to any democrat, as just demonstrated. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.1.3    4 weeks ago
Your selective outrage is breath taking. 

Excuse me, but I did note that Biden says stupid things. How is that selective? My outrage is that those who support Trump will give him a pass on anything, but if some Dem does it, well, he is out of his mind. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

Hey that is free markets for you... 

And no president has the right to tell industry to stop doing business with another country. 

I remember during apartheid company's were shamed into divestment.  

Not by the president of the US.

And who do you think are going to pay for those tariffs? Tariffs are actually taxes paid by the consumer. So far that has cost the American public about $1000K this year. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.9  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.7    4 weeks ago

Your continuous claim of being middle of the road are humorous at best. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.10  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.8    4 weeks ago

The free market isn't slave labor or the theft of intellectual property.I think during apartheid it was congress Reagan was the free market player at that time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Anti-Apartheid_Act

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.11  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.8    4 weeks ago

Where did you get that 1000k figure I would guess but I will get a ticket.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.1.9    4 weeks ago
Your continuous claim of being middle of the road are humorous at best. 

First of all, stop making this personal. I have never done that to you. 

Second, you are misrepresenting what I said I am. I am an independent. I never said I was middle of the road. The fact that over the 2.5 years that we have had Trump as our president, I have gone from being ambivalent to not has a lot to do with what he has said and done and I am not a fan. I didn't vote for either of the two, so yes I can claim to be free of any ties to either of them. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @4.1.9    4 weeks ago

MUVA, Perrie restrains from criticizing Trump, that makes her way "middle of the road", I could go further, but I won't. 

The president is nuts. Everyone knows it, but only some will say it. 

We are not going to have five more years of Trump "pantsing" the United States of America.  There are far more than enough people who have already said they wont vote for Trump under any circumstance. All they have to do now is come out and vote. 

Five more years of this crap from him every day is unthinkable, and I dont believe that America is far gone enough down the road to national insanity to allow that to happen.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MUVA @4.1.10    4 weeks ago
The free market isn't slave labor

So when US companies are "hereby ordered" to stop doing business in China, how exactly is that a "free market"?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.1.11    4 weeks ago
Where did you get that 1000k figure I would guess but I will get a ticket.

You are now trolling me and for the record, I don't want anyone to write you up. I will answer this. 

JP Morgan is saying this:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/19/heres-what-new-tariffs-will-cost-an-average-american-household.html

And here is why:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-costs-factbox/factbox-from-phone-makers-to-farmers-the-toll-of-trumps-trade-wars-idUSKCN1VE00B

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.16  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MUVA @4.1.11    4 weeks ago
Where did you get that 1000k figure I would guess but I will get a ticket.

" Trump’s original tariffs cost American consumers $3 billion a month in direct tariffs and another $1.4 billion from the costs of shifting supply chains. When Trump expanded the tariffs, it made re-sourcing products a relatively cheaper option. As a result, fewer products would be imported (reducing that monthly total), but supply chain costs would increase to $6.6 billion a month."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/23/trumps-angry-tweets-about-china-betray-his-political-rhetoric-two-significant-ways/

So Perry was being conservative in her estimate at just $1 billion. The real cost has been $3 billion EVERY MONTH since Trump irresponsibly started the trade war and this next batch of tariffs could push that number to well over $6 billion a month. Just like Trump ran numerous businesses into bankruptcy with his combination of hubris and monumental ignorance, he is doing the same with the American economy. Most Americans saw this coming which is why they didn't vote for the lying adulterous con man reality TV show host.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.17  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    4 weeks ago

It isn't the fact of criticizing Trump it is the lack of balance of outrage  and the sanctimony that company's it that is all if you lean left just admit it that is all.  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.1.18  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.15    4 weeks ago

Perrie plz quit disrupting my seed, The subject is Biden and his so called "gaffs" not Trumps Tariffs.

 
 
 
WallyW
4.3  WallyW  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    4 weeks ago

Didn't it come from Wayne Allyn Root?

https://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/Who-is-Wayne-Allyn-Root-who-called-Trump-King-of-Israel-599398

I think it was meant to be a joke. But then again, I don't hang on every word Trump utters.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @4.3    4 weeks ago

We know the president of the United States is a joke , but dont act like it is intentional. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.4  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    4 weeks ago
we are giving a pass to a President who says "he is the chosen one"

First, the story is about Biden, not Trump. But second, there's kind of a big difference between saying stuff like "chosen one" and murdering people.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.4.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @4.4    4 weeks ago
First, the story is about Biden, not Trump. But second, there's kind of a big difference between saying stuff like "chosen one" and murdering people.

No, the story is about stupid things said from Biden, as if Biden is the only one saying stupid things. And 4 kids were murdered at Kent State, so what Biden said was a gaff but not totally wrong. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.4.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.1    4 weeks ago

WTF this was in my google search for creepy joe!

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.4.3  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.4.2    4 weeks ago

Deep fake. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.4.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.4.2    4 weeks ago

Well, at least he is not grabbing my pussy. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.4.2    4 weeks ago

So using photos of NT members in poorly cut and paste anti-Democrat memes is now acceptable? Really?

Can we post memes with other members avatars being fornicated from behind by Trump?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.4.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.5    4 weeks ago

I'm OK with it. It's an obvious joke and i have broad shoulders. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.6    4 weeks ago
It's an obvious joke and i have broad shoulders. 

While I understand how magnanimous you are, I was more worried about the precedent allowing such a thing might set. While the "Biden rubbing your shoulders" may not be offensive to you, using other NT avatars and likenesses in politically motivated memes seems like a bit of a slippery slope.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.4.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.7    4 weeks ago

Using actual photos of members faces on the forum should not be permitted. You are right. 

 
 
 
bugsy
4.4.9  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.1    4 weeks ago
No, the story is about stupid things said from Biden

So why mention Trump, since he is off topic from this story?

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.4.10  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.1    4 weeks ago
as if Biden is the only one saying stupid things

No way! There is nothing in this story that says - or even implies - that Biden is the only one saying stupid things. Why can't we just talk about Biden without deflecting to someone who is not a topic in the article?

And 4 kids were murdered at Kent State, so what Biden said was a gaff but not totally wrong.

Saying 5 instead of 4 would be a gaffe, an error. Saying "over 40" is a deliberate, sensational lie meant to inflame.

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.4.11  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.4.4    4 weeks ago
Well, at least he is not grabbing my pussy. 

A girl can dream.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.4.12  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.5    4 weeks ago

Thank you for your concern however I got the member's permission up front.

In other words, find something else to complain about.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.5  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    4 weeks ago
Wait and we are giving a pass to a President who says "he is the chosen one"

So because Trump is bad we settle for just a little bit better?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.5.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @4.5    4 weeks ago

Yes, sadly. There used to be a time when that was not the case. I miss those days. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.5.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.5.1    4 weeks ago
So because Trump is bad we settle for just a little bit better?
Yes, sadly. There used to be a time when that was not the case. I miss those days. 

ANY of the top Dem contenders would be a far better president that Donald Trump. Any of them. Even the ones you call "far left" would be constrained by Congress, and they are ALL light years better than Trump as human beings. 

Let's be serious. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.5.3  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @4.5.2    4 weeks ago

No the leftist garbage the democrats have put forward would completely fuck this country up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.5.4  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @4.5.3    4 weeks ago

What leftist?  Stop imagining things. 

You are supporting a pathological liar that is embarrassing our country every day and needs mental help. Just stop. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.5.5  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @4.5.4    4 weeks ago

All of them are for open borders raising taxes banning guns giving healthcare to illegal aliens and so on.

 
 
 
Ronin2
4.5.6  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.5.2    4 weeks ago

Serious? Please. Open borders, free health care to all immigrants, free education, and now the "green new deals". We can't afford any of them. None of them, including Biden, are even close to being near the center.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5  It Is ME    4 weeks ago

" Mr. Biden said. “Imagine what would have happened if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee."

This is the democrats "Front Runner" ?

And the Democrats say Trump is the dumb one ?

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.1  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  It Is ME @5    4 weeks ago
God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee."

Well I imagine that Bidden never would have been vice president ….

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  KDMichigan @5.1    4 weeks ago
Well I imagine that Bidden never would have been vice president ….

Joe forgot ………… jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  It Is ME @5.1.1    4 weeks ago

No, he probably thinks he would have been president. 

Joe was having a wishful thinking moment- forgetting all about Hillary Clinton- who would have been the nominee instead.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.2    4 weeks ago
Joe was having a wishful thinking moment- forgetting all about Hillary Clinton- who would have been the nominee instead.

Joe "Forgets" quite a bit ! jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MUVA
6  MUVA    4 weeks ago

I think it is the only way he will ever be president.

 
 
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