Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Race For Democratic Nomination

  
By:  john-russell  •  one week ago  •  125 comments

Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Race For Democratic Nomination

Later today Sen. Kamala Harris will announce she is dropping out of the race for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination. 

Confirmed by NBC News. 


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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    one week ago

She never became known for any particular issue and eventually seemed to be trying too hard.  She will be a force in the party for some time to come and will probably try again for president down the line. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago
She never became known for any particular issue

She was known for servicing Brown's Willie to start her political career is all.

 
 
 
CB
1.1.1  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @1.1    one week ago

Funny, you should mention that. Men get and give 'service' each and every day and it mostly never harms their chances of a political career.

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.1.2  Sunshine  replied to  CB @1.1.1    one week ago

She is a Senator.  Not seeing where it has harmed her career.

 
 
 
CB
1.1.3  CB   replied to  Sunshine @1.1.2    one week ago

She is a Senator, and you are right about her career remaining intact. Moreover, her "service" to Willie Brown was legal, off-hours, and behind closed doors—whatever t was, it was between consenting adults. In addition, Willie might have been 'servicing' her in which case (can I get an amen, Ladies?) how would any of us know for sure?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
1.2  Freedom Warrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

That Newsom endorsement really put her over the top.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one week ago

No shocker there. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2    one week ago

There are too many candidates. Fundraising on the internet and the ease with which people become "famous" these days gives some of these people the idea that they should run for president.  After there are 6 or so viable candidates the rest should wait for another year. 

Of course this would encourage people to announce earlier and earlier, and that isnt a good trend either. 

Maybe they should just go back to letting the convention decide it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
3  TᵢG    one week ago

This was obvious.

The race is between Biden, Warren, Buttigieg and Bloomberg.   Maybe Sanders, but with his current demeanor, message and health issues he is very unlikely.   The rest have no chance.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4  It Is ME    one week ago

Constant "Giggling" just isn't a "Vote Getter" ! jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5  Ed-NavDoc    one week ago

Oh happy days! One less progressive leftist liberal in the race. I don't think she would really have been a serious contender anyway. Carrying too much baggage for her to be winnable.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5    one week ago

A former prosecutor is a "leftist" ?  lol

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5    one week ago

Actually Ed, this is what I find so scary about politics today. She was hardly a leftist. In fact, her biggest detriment was her long history of locking up black people. 

Both parties are in control by their extreme ends and neither can see their way back to the middle. We need the middle now more than ever.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2    one week ago

In retrospect you are correct on all points. I should have left out the leftist and just gone with progressive liberal. My bad and my thanks for the correction.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2    one week ago

If the main contenders are Biden, Bloomberg, Warren and Buttigieg, how is the Democratic Party in the control of the extreme? 

Nancy Pelosi is arguably the leader of the Democratic Party today.  She is about as far from extremist as you can get. 

 
 
 
Goodtime Charlie
5.2.3  Goodtime Charlie  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    one week ago
Nancy Pelosi is arguably the leader of the Democratic Party today.

Nancy is the leader in name only. AOC is her puppet master

 
 
 
CB
5.2.4  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    one week ago

You make a great point! I can see how Perrie meant her point to be taken, nevertheless! A really rich thought-point, JR! Come to the head of the class!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5.2.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Goodtime Charlie @5.2.3    one week ago

And the rest of the "The Squad" are their cheerleaders!

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.6  Krishna  replied to  Goodtime Charlie @5.2.3    5 days ago
Nancy is the leader in name only. AOC is her puppet master

Shhhh! Don't let people know! 

(Of course you are right, but we're not supposed to let the secret out.

And BTW, not only does AOC control the entire Congress, but in actuality she single-handedly controls the entire U.S. government. (As well as the military).

How does she manage to do this you may ask?

Simple-- she's a Witch! 

Yes, she's actually a practicing Witch and she's a successful practicioner of Witchcraft-- in the bat of an eyelash she can put a magicke spell on any government official and make them brnd to her will!!!!!!!)

 
 
 
Krishna
5.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.2.6    5 days ago

in the bat of an eyelash. . . 

(or is it the "eyelash of a bat? ):

196

"Eye of newt , and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing,--
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble."

Macbeth (IV, i, 14-15)

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6  Just Jim NC TttH    one week ago

Can't say as I blame her. Her days as a "prosecutor" turned her into a real angry person and it seems, clouded her judgement outside of the courtroom..........and holier than thou woman. Foreign diplomats would most likely expose her nasty tendencies by defying her wants just because they can see she is a manipulative ...........fill in the blank. And many here think she isn't like Mr. Trump?

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6    one week ago

Well, that was totally sexist. If a guy is a good prosecutor, he is called tough. A woman is called nasty. Why is that?

I mean she wasn't my cup of tea, but I would not describe her that way.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    one week ago

It wasn't sexist at all. If a man with the same "pedigree" tried, he would be treated the same. All I am saying is that her reputation precedes her and she would be toast just as anyone who occupied the office did. Did you watch any of the first debates? She played the poor me race card more than once and took offense at practically ANY comments trying to demean her. Look what world leaders did to Mr. Carter (speedy recovery please) and Mr. Obama. Carter was a puss and so was Obama. Bush, just out of touch. She doesn't belong in the office and would be better on a high court somewhere............maybe.

You see how, we are told by the locals here, that they scoff at Mr. Trump and his supposed behaviour. Just what the hell do you think they would do to her? Drop at her feet and say "Thank you ma'am may I have another?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.1    one week ago

Jim,

Your above explanation is not sexist. I would have agreed with it even. But please re-read your first one, especially this comment:

Foreign diplomats would most likely expose her nasty tendencies by defying her wants just because they can see she is a manipulative ...........fill in the blank.

The fill in the blank was the icing on the cake.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.2    one week ago

Sorry but YOU filled in that blank, ran with it, and created your own angst.  Why do you think  l typed "fill in the blank". It's just like when the race card is played. As we are told and scolded for here, those that call racist are usually guilty of that of their own accord. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1.4  Sunshine  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.3    one week ago

Calling men dickheads and pricks for their manipulative behavior is sexist?  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.3    one week ago

First, I have no angst over this.

And I'm sorry... but let's be for real. What would you have filled in the blank in with after reading the first half of your comment? 

Please...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sunshine @6.1.4    one week ago
Calling men dickheads and pricks for their manipulative behavior is sexist?

Yup, it is. That is why I don't do that.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1.7  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.6    one week ago

Great, do you suggest that others are sexist for those comments?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sunshine @6.1.7    one week ago

Nope, but then again, I am not a guy. Do you?

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1.9  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.8    one week ago
I am not a guy. 

Why does that matter?  

 Do you?

No. I don't pay much attention to it.  A sexist comment would be she is manipulative/nasty because she is a woman.  But, that wasn't the comment.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sunshine @6.1.9    one week ago
Why does that matter?  

Because before I was a teacher I had to deal with men who were. It affected me directly. But any guy who wants to take umbrage with a woman talking sexist smack, I would think they had it coming to them. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.11  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.10    one week ago

After watching the men and women on this forum disparage other women based on political affiliations these conversations are entirely meaningless.

Hypocrisytalkers.com Where one day we espouse feminism and the next we trash women with sexism and misogyny. Heck even the self proclaimed Queen of feminism and male bashing who was here for a few months trashed women with misogyny and her ilk was fine with it.

Don't dare point it out, heads will explode.....

Maybe we should all join the "my *unt taco stand" group and we can all laugh about our hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1.12  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.10    one week ago

So if a woman is making sexist statements or using sexist name calling, you choose to ignore it whether directed at a man or woman?  That is your prerogative.

But, it seems to be a double standard to chastise one and not the other.

It affected me directly.

I do understand, have spent over 35 years in a male dominated career but I have learned over the years to recognize what are sexist comments and what are not instead of perceiving what I think they are. Trying not to jump to accusations.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.10    one week ago
But any guy who wants to take umbrage with a woman talking sexist smack, I would think they had it coming to them. 

Who? The woman or the subject guy(s)? As for.............

And I'm sorry... but let's be for real. What would you have filled in the blank in with after reading the first half of your comment? 
Please...

Barring any other term that may have popped into my head, "self serving, self aggrandizing, woman in it for her own recognition and resume".

And aren't we supposed to be equal? Seems one half of the "discussion" gets appalled when treated equally.
While I realize there are some "civil" boundaries, what's good for the gander, in this case, is good for the goose.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sunshine @6.1.12    one week ago
instead of perceiving what I think they are

Good for you. Perpetual victimization does NO one any good that I have ever seen. Reality, it seems of late, is that some groups LOOK for the victim card.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.15  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.14    one week ago

One time some people did something and I'm was emotionally injured and I am still hurting.

 
 
 
Kathleen
6.1.16  Kathleen  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.3    one week ago

It did not sound sexist to me, I kept reading it over and it just didn’t.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.17  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.6    one week ago

And why I have already judged that I stop calling them that publicly, anyway.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.18  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.1    one week ago
She played the poor me race card more than once and took offense at practically ANY comments trying to demean her. Look what world leaders did to Mr. Carter (speedy recovery please) and Mr. Obama. Carter was a puss and so was Obama.

That is full . . . .fill in the blank. Ms. Harris need not apologize to anybody for her black American/Indian heritage and it is her prerogative as such to properly speak about in a racially-sensitive manner according to the circumstances. It is the conservative movement's problem, if that is indeed what it is to them, that the policymakers can not collect or stir a suitable majority of minorities to its party-line. Perhaps, if conservatism and its adherents attempted to listen instead of repacking and re-wrapping itself overtime with peculiar values, people could properly move back and forth in the millions across both parties. That is not the case, however.

I take umbrage that when Ms. Harris fails in her first attempt to become president, that anybody should start talking about it as anything more than what it is. She simply is not ready to be president in the minds of the people. That happens. There is no need for conservatives to launch a celebration or throw a 'tap dance,'— it has always been and is clear from the start that 'shaving' of the democratic party contestants and the many personalities would occur.

As far as Jim Carter goes well conservativism did not make a good man go bad. As far as Obama goes, he probably could give a damn about what conservatism cares about state of governance or state of being or state of current affairs. Some conservatives apparently love to play the 'memory-card' when Trump is fuc. . .fill in the blank this nation's brand as caring, fair, decent, dignified and branding it as a faux monarchy under a leader who apparently will do anything to anybody he knows for a buck and does not like his natural hair color.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @6.1.18    one week ago
As far as Obama goes, he probably could give a damn about what conservatism cares about state of governance or state of being or state of current affairs.

That's why they shit canned his ideals and ideas in 2016. And he STILL continues to bash even now. Your faux image is just that. Yours.

and as for your...............

Ms. Harris need not apologize to anybody for her black American/Indian heritage and it is her prerogative as such to properly speak about in a racially-sensitive manner according to the circumstances.

Who said she needed to apologize for any of your victim perceptions?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.13    one week ago

I was going to answer this, but you know what. This is all double speak. We all know what was meant. 

 
 
 
CB
6.1.21  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.19    one week ago

Well Just Jim NC TttH, that is full. . . fill in the blank. It is a free country. the saying goes. Trump won through hook and crook. And, conservatives explicitly like their hook and crook when they can get it and now we will all have to do what we can to see if and when we can get rid of Trump and that. This is the fu. . . fill in the blank of the moment. But, a new day is on the horizon. We will have to run on and see what it will be!

By the way, democrats would be ridiculously stupid if they do not keep their attention on winning the Electoral College and the popular vote this winning season.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.20    one week ago

Enlighten me. There is two choices NEITHER of which I would post here. That seems to be reserved for women on the conservative side of the aisle here. And you know of the "by whom" I speak.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @6.1.21    one week ago
Trump won through hook and crook.

No he won because the "other" candidate took for granted that her way was what everyone across the fruited plain wanted. Unfortunately for her, she forgot to court that section of the country. And the only reason Mr. Obama won second term, and first for that matter, is that the GOP candidates sucked.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.24  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.20    one week ago

I will answer, be nice to Perrie, she gives us this wonderful forum to express ourselves. Sometimes we forget. It's not like our unad clicking asses help pay, if we did I'd owe the most because so many loopholes have had to be closed to shut down parts of my not so ad friendly creative ways. Ad companies run from my idea of entertaining content.

thank you Perrie for your tolerance over the years.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.25  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.22    one week ago

Actually Jim, I haven't a clue to what you are talking about. And here is the BS I really resent. I complimented you here:

Jim,

Your above explanation is not sexist.I would have agreed with it even.

So it's not like I am taking a liberal or conservative side. I said would have agreed with you. 

But then I get all caught up in this BS, about liberals and conservatives... well news flash. I am an independent, who has voted both liberal and conservative and even libertarian and who believes in civil discussion. I don't think that is unreasonable. 

 
 
 
CB
6.1.26  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.23    one week ago

And what you have elected is a lying, cheating, victimized, fake hair color, non-constitutional following, offender of all things just, and finally now conservatism is pleased to sit on its 'fat' laurels and say all is right with politics?

Pull down your skirt and raise your pants, Conservatism—your true nature is showing. It is clear to me anyway, conservatism never gave a damn about "truth, justice, and the "American Way." That was all fake flag-waving jingoism. Conservatism is tribalism, plain and simple.

Trump is tribal leader. And who would have 'thunk' it. The 'founding fathers of conservativism are rolling in anguish in their respective graves. Conservatism used to have some deep thinkers and the party has 'graduated' down to Trump? This 'meatball'?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.27  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.25    one week ago

I really don't want a pissing match and that was NOT my intention. Especially with you as I know your views and stance on most things as evidenced through your posts. I only replied to your responses. Sorry if it came across as prickish to you but you know you have seen worse.

jrSmiley_51_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.28  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  CB @6.1.26    one week ago

Conservatism isn't real CB.

I mean the ideology is amazing for Austerity but once elected only a fraction of humans can survive Washington without being corrupted by the bloated crony pirates that infect the houses of government.

Conservatism wins elections, no one is able to survive the corruption that occurs after the acceptance speech. 

When do any of them ever vote for less government?

Why is the deficit bloating again?

I love fiscal sanity but I am a social lefty, far left of most on this forum. That's why I typically vote libertarian. I just wish we didn't always get an angry, disgruntled republican that decides gays or ok to run as the libertarian candidate. I'd like an always was one candidate.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.29  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.27    one week ago

OK Let's just call by gones, by gones.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.30  CB   replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1.28    one week ago

Hi 'Fish! Governance is inherently complicated. In a system like ours with so much money circulating, people see it coming by on a 'conveyor' and they get saucer eyes. Then, this one gets a scheme, that one gets another, and that writes a book about the scheme that a third just hatched, and so on and so forth. No one has a problem, really, except the people on the bottom and on the outs are not happy. Those people 'litter' our politics, our streets, our lives, and the back spaces of our minds. Of course, then the 'world' comes a calling with its myriad of circular problems they can not manage to circumvent, talk their way out of, or stop causing under their own power.

Last thing I will say is this about it. We have to be smarter together and not just keep politically punching each other below the belt! Damn! Both parties have practically knee capped their success and all that is accomplished is you guessed it: Now our investigations cause investigations! We are duplicitous in fighting too much ourselves. Call it a 'war on politics.' It is costing us any savings we garner otherwise. 

Or things along these lines of thought. We will not return to sanity until we as people decide to do just that. RETURN TO SANITY. Elsewise, we will continue on being 'sick and tired' of being sick and tired, and our politically "drug" of choice will continue letting us all have it!

Hey 'Fish, your last paragraph throws me. What do you mean?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.31  KDMichigan  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.22    one week ago
That seems to be reserved for women on the conservative side

Exactly. I have yet to see anyone of these two and I say two because I see CB wanted to jump on the bandwagon, call out the left for calling conservative women CUNTS, BITCHES, SLUTS, Saying the President molests his daughter but OMG you said fill in the blank so you are a sexist. 

256

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.32  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.31    one week ago

I say we all join the group for that popped up with the euphemism for My **nt. to show our true misogyny.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.1.33  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @6.1.18    one week ago
She simply is not ready to be president in the minds of the people. That happens.

That's a fair assessment.

There is no need for conservatives to launch a celebration or throw a 'tap dance,'— it has always been and is clear from the start that 'shaving' of the democratic party contestants and the many personalities would occur.

I think she gets flak from people because she started the campaign in a very militant fashion.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.34  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.31    one week ago

If someone said that to me in a discussion, my reaction would be the same. And frankly, I think it's disgusting to use the C word ever by anyone.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.1.35  Jack_TX  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1.28    one week ago
I love fiscal sanity but I am a social lefty, far left of most on this forum.

Welcome to the Dark Side.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.36  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.34    one week ago

i certainly remember the feckless C word debate we had here. Very disappointing to see those who shame other defending the right to refer to women like that regardless of politics.

That's why I've come to the conclusion that politics seem to trump decency on forums and people are generally hypocrites. No greater hypocrite as seen by the words of the feminist towards women who don't identify as feminists.

Political groups seem to doll out passes for these social justice rules they'd like to impose on all of us.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.37  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.31    one week ago

You call 'em out then. If you truly care, that is. What's your role in all this? What's WRONG with your hands pounding it out? I'll answer that thank you very much: Nothing.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.38  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.35    one week ago

The dark side is a wonderful place.

I couldn't imagine being so addicted to government that will always fails that I lose my mind over who the president of the failed government is.

 
 
 
Ender
6.1.39  Ender  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1.36    one week ago

I remember the big debate over the B word on the vine.

I am guessing it kinda went the same.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.40  KDMichigan  replied to  CB @6.1.37    one week ago

Is this your lame attempt at justifying your hypocrisy? 

Let me guess you never seen it, am I right?

You call 'em out then. If you truly care, that is. 

I'm not calling out your left wing Feminist, that would be misogynistic.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.41  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.34    one week ago

I agree. Woman, thou understandeth thyself!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.42  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.34    one week ago
If someone said that to me in a discussion,

Just Jim didn't say anything to you, you jumped in.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.43  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.40    one week ago

[Deleted] You make it explicitly clear you approve of what you won't call out with your own keyboard. If it bothers you that conservative women are called vulgar, demeaning, terms - you do something about it. Don't try projecting lack onto me. I stand in the square and make my case. By the way, when I do deal with the subject on behalf of my sisters and friends, I make mention (look it up) that I do not consider any woman to be fit for such statements.

Women birth all humans. I 'issued forth' from a woman's nether region. Chances are nearly everyone here did too. I let that count for something with me. We men should not forget that. But, now I am preachifying and so I step down from my stool.

 
 
 
Kathleen
6.1.44  Kathleen  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1.36    one week ago

Yes, and it was I that fought that word and I still do. The B word does not bother me, or witch either. The C word is filthy and unnecessary to use. 

btw, politics bring out the worst in people.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.45  KDMichigan  replied to  CB @6.1.43    one week ago
Then check to see if you are full of it.

Full of what? Tired of these soap box preachers that want to spew their hypocrisy? yup I am 

 You make it explicitly clear you approve of what you won't call out with your own keyboard.

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.46  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.42    one week ago

KD,

This is an open forum. Anyone can say anything to anyone... just like you said to me, and you just jumped in. 

See how that works?

And for the record, Jim and I have made it good with one another.. why are you stirring the pot? Oh yeah.. jumping in. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.47  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.46    one week ago

It can be hard to see that considering you recently told Freedom Warrior not to respond to you. 

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/48791/how-to-get-trump-voters-and-liberals-to-talk-dont-make-anyone-sit-in-a-circle#cm1209422

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.48  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.47    one week ago

Dean,

That is a one to one request. I can ask. He can say no. I didn't tell him not to respond to someone else.

I'm really getting sick of you and a few others trying to play gotchya with me. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.49  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.48    one week ago

I didn’t read it as an option. It looks to me like you are telling him not to respond to you. That is why I find it confusing. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.50  TᵢG  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.49    one week ago

What is with this nit-picking meta today?   Dean, read this:  "Please do not respond to me. ".     That is a request.   

Please do not ... is normal English preceding a request.

You might have had a point if the phrase was "Do not respond to me, this is your final warning" or equivalent.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
6.1.51  Raven Wing  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.48    one week ago
I'm really getting sick of you and a few others trying to play gotchya with me. 

And so are the rest of us,

 
 
 
CB
6.1.52  CB   replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.33    one week ago

Ms. Harris took a 'shot' at Joe Biden and in the long run it did not help. To the winner of risk-taking goes tthe biggest payoff. To the loser go the dregs. That is the way life is. I agree with you, that could have been partially what damaged her early in this. In addition, I suppose, getting in early with a field that opened its 'mouth' to so many candidates diluted her well-wishers and supporters. She became a lesser 'chew.'

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
6.1.53  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.49    one week ago

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CB
6.1.54  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.45    one week ago

"it."

[deleted] I often see Donald Trump hanging around the gutter there. Now, when you want to discuss a hypocrisy indeed let me know!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.55  KDMichigan  replied to  CB @6.1.54    one week ago

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CB
6.1.56  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.55    one week ago

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Clean up your vocabulary with some scented fragrant and soaring words-and bring it on KDMichigan. We can talk about Trump in rosy language too, by another name. If you prefer it, that is. Find a field and I will bring two stools.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
6.1.57  Freedom Warrior  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.50    one week ago

Well in Democrat world it isn't .  They call it an impeachable offense.  Of course here they make up other excuses.

 
 
 
Krishna
6.1.58  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.3    5 days ago
It's just like when the race card is played.

This may be a bit off topic-- but there is a person (or person') in this discussion who isn;t exactly playing with a full deck . . .  (if ya catch my drift!)

 
 
 
Kathleen
7  Kathleen    one week ago

Her campaign was weak and she was not consistent in her views. No surprise at all. I was no fan of hers.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
7.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Kathleen @7    one week ago
Her campaign was weak and she was not consistent in her views. No surprise at all. I was no fan of hers.

She started as one nutjob in a box of nutjobs, but matured as it went along.  Had she started as a moderate, she would have been more successful.

 
 
 
Kathleen
7.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1    one week ago

Even if she was a moderate I would not vote for her. She completely turned me off with her ‘ I was that little girl’ comment.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1    one week ago

She simply didn't peak my interest as a candidate. She seemed to have the attitude that she was far above everyone one else in the list of candidates and that kind of attitude does not sit well with me. However, that is just me.

Also, she seemed to think that only her views were worthy of consideration, and that tends to be a turn off to some people as well.

 
 
 
CB
7.1.3  CB   replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.2    one week ago
She simply didn't peak my interest as a candidate.

Same here. Kamala Harris would sprike and strike above the political 'foliage' and then settle back down under its canopy. As a prosecutor, she had some worthy second glance arguments on this current president's treatment of this nation's constitution an. treatment of its citizenry. The problem was, Donald Trump is not and has never been on the Democratic Debate Roster. She presented as a boxer, without one directly opposite here suitable to spar with or punch out, in my opinion.

 
 
 
Gulliver-Swift
7.1.4  Gulliver-Swift  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.2    one week ago
She simply didn't peak my interest as a candidate.

I cringed when I heard about her closed door meetings with the Wall Street donor crowd. That initially put her down at the bottom of my list. Also, her record as a prosecutor didn't seem all that woke and there is at least one scandal involving a donor and a dropped prosecution.

Then she banged Biden over the head regarding mandatory school busing only to retreat to what was basically Biden's position on the issue by the end of that week. As if that wasn't enough she pivoted from "Medicare for All" to "Strengthening Obamacare" hoping nobody would notice. 

We noticed.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
7.1.5  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Gulliver-Swift @7.1.4    one week ago

So she was basically like every other Dem candidate

 
 
 
Gulliver-Swift
7.1.6  Gulliver-Swift  replied to  Freedom Warrior @7.1.5    one week ago
So she was basically like every other Dem candidate

It's not just that she tries to give herself some wiggle room on an issue here or there. She grandstands on an issue and then does a complete 180.

Although I am not a particular enthusiast for either Biden or Buttigieg, they both seem to have pretty steady stances on the issues. Likewise with Bernie.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.7  Raven Wing  replied to  Gulliver-Swift @7.1.4    one week ago
We noticed.

Indeed we did. It seemed from the start that she could not keep both feet on the same page at the same time, seeming to waver with whichever way the wind blew at the moment. 

I have always been one to believe that, before a person throws feces at another, they should make sure their own backyard is clean or that person may very well wind up wearing their own feces and more.

Something she seemed to either forget, or perhaps never learned.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.8  Raven Wing  replied to  CB @7.1.3    one week ago
She presented as a boxer, without one directly opposite here suitable to spar with or punch out, in my opinion.

She came on strong as if she could take them all on and best them. However, she seemed to forget that it takes more than showmanship to win a battle. Wielding a sword with no real knowledge of how to use it effectively will not ensure a win against a more intelligent and better trained opponent.

 
 
 
CB
7.1.9  CB   replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.8    one week ago

Interesting. She will now have the time and 'impressions' to go by and mull over before she engage the nation for the job of president a second time.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.10  Raven Wing  replied to  CB @7.1.9    one week ago

And this is interesting;

Joe Biden said on Wednesday he would consider the California senator as a running mate 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/biden-says-hell-consider-harris-as-his-running-mate/ar-BBXLNEJ?li=BBnb7Kz

And he has likely lost a good many potential votes with that revelation. If he ever had that much of a chance of winning, he likely lost it with tht statement.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
7.1.11  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Gulliver-Swift @7.1.6    one week ago

Steady as drunken sailors.

 
 
 
CB
7.1.12  CB   replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.10    one week ago

He is targeting the Black vote. It is a logical idea. She is a black, a woman, and an Senator. It's deja vu in reverse. It could work! She is a fierce woman. She simply did not have a 'foundation' outside of California.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.13  Raven Wing  replied to  CB @7.1.12    6 days ago

I really don't think that most Blacks will be so stupid as to vote for someone simply because they are Black. If being Black is the only criteria needed to qualify a person to get the Black votes then why are there no more Black Presidents or VP?

Frankly, I think Blacks consider far more about a candidate than the color of their skin, or even their political party, unlike most Whites, who obviously think that only those with white skin are fit to be President. 

JMOO

 
 
 
CB
7.1.14  CB   replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.13    6 days ago

However, what is interesting is Mr.Buttigieg is 'fashioning' himself as a new leaf - in the vein of Obama. A 'first.' A novelty. That is 'bigly' these days as we search the landscape for someone who can do the job of leading such a great people with a firm, even-handed sensibility. Ms. Harris needs more exposure to national politics.

BTW, it was Barack's team which outwitted Hillary in 2008 by clutching the delegates away from her before she became aware of their shifting away. In my observation, that is. It happened to Hillary again in 2016, but this time it was the Electoral College delegates who got 'swept' away right from under Hillary.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.15  Raven Wing  replied to  CB @7.1.14    6 days ago

I agree about Hillary and her insight into her campaign against Trump. She paid too much attention to the polls showing her with a big lead and Trump with little chance of winning. 

That is what she gets for paying more attention to the polls than to the actual voters.

 
 
 
Krishna
7.1.16  Krishna  replied to  Gulliver-Swift @7.1.4    5 days ago
I cringed when I heard about her closed door meetings with the Wall Street donor crowd.

FWIW, when Hillary was running I checked a list of her top donors-- 4 of the 5 were big Wall St banks.(The one that wasn't was Emily's List)

 
 
 
Sunshine
8  Sunshine    one week ago

She came across as a phony.  Very little heart and emotion in her campaign.

 
 
 
Kathleen
8.1  Kathleen  replied to  Sunshine @8    one week ago

Also whinny, she had that nasal voice too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @8.1    one week ago

That's whiney.

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Kathleen
8.1.2  Kathleen  replied to  Kathleen @8.1    one week ago

Sorry for the mistake you all, but this is probably the only way some people ‘get off’.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.1    one week ago
Reminds me of some members here

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Kathleen
8.1.4  Kathleen  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.1    one week ago

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Kathleen
8.1.5  Kathleen  replied to  Kathleen @8.1.4    one week ago

[Spelling isn't the issue here, Kathleen.  Meta is.]

 
 
 
Kathleen
8.1.6  Kathleen  replied to  Kathleen @8.1    one week ago

Correction to my post. Whiny.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @8.1.6    one week ago

Geez, let it go!

 
 
 
Krishna
8.1.8  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.3    5 days ago
Reminds me of some members here

Are you saying that some of the members here are "whiney" -- or that they are actually more "whinny" than "whiney"?

It doesn't really pay to over-generalize-- IMO some of them are really quite whiney-- others are definitely more whinny. Heck, at times there are people who can switch from one to the other (depending on the topic being discussed of course).

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
8.2  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sunshine @8    one week ago

But she was black so that eclipses everything else right 

 
 
 
Krishna
8.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Freedom Warrior @8.2    5 days ago
But she was black so that eclipses everything else right 

Well, you know the olde saying:

At night all cats are black!

(Well, unless there's an eclipse).

But in any event, when its a really dark night its really hard to sort out cats, hardto tell one from the other (metaphorically speaking of course)

 
 
 
Tacos!
9  Tacos!    one week ago

Good. She was my least favorite candidate. She's mean, petty, and false. Perhaps more than any other candidate, she will say whatever she thinks is fashionable to get elected or whatever it takes to get ahead politically in the moment. Good riddance. 

Now if only somebody in California with at least the sunny disposition of Oscar the Grouch or Squidward would run against her for Senate, we could be rid of her entirely.

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Jack_TX
9.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @9    one week ago
Perhaps more than any other candidate, she will say whatever she thinks is fashionable to get elected or whatever it takes to get ahead politically in the moment.

Some guy named Robert O'Rourke has just asked me to "hold his beer"....

 
 
 
Tacos!
9.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Jack_TX @9.1    one week ago
Robert O'Rourke has just asked me to "hold his beer"

LOL! jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
PJ
10  PJ    one week ago

She sealed her fate when she attacked Biden over the busing.  White people heard her say that she's going to go back 60+ years and hold people accountable for positions and views that were common during that period in time.  It was a stupid move on her part.

Next....

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  PJ @10    one week ago

Actually her campaign died when Tulsi Gabbard pointed out what a total fraud she was.

 
 
 
It Is ME
10.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1    one week ago
Actually her campaign died when Tulsi Gabbard pointed out what a total fraud she was.

That too ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  PJ @10    one week ago

Political candidates exaggerate and misrepresent their opponents positions all the time. 

I wonder how many people remember all the idiotic things Trump said on the debate stage and during the Republican primaries in 2016. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
10.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    one week ago
Political candidates exaggerate and misrepresent their opponents positions all the time. 

Like being done in the Democrat led Impeachment Committee's ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
10.2.2  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    5 days ago

Remember what Ted Cruz said about Trump?

Ted Cruz on Tuesday unloaded on   Donald Trump , accusing him during a news conference of being a "pathological liar," "utterly amoral," "a narcissist at a level I don't think this country's ever seen" and "a serial philanderer."

"He is proud of being a serial philanderer ... he describes his own battles with venereal diseases as his own personal Vietnam," Cruz said, citing a decades-old Trump appearance on "The Howard Stern Show."
 
 
 
Krishna
10.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @10.2.2    5 days ago

Ted Cruz on Tuesday unloaded on   Donald Trump , accusing him during a news conference of being a "pathological liar," "utterly amoral," "a narcissist at a level I don't think this country's ever seen" and "a serial philanderer."

"He is proud of being a serial philanderer ... he describes his own battles with venereal diseases as his own personal Vietnam," Cruz said, citing a decades-old Trump appearance on "The Howard Stern Show."

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
11  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one week ago

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @11    one week ago

I have been told your comment is of no value. 

What should I do? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
11.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1    one week ago

That depends on who told you..........................I guess.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.1    one week ago

Someone important. 

 
 
 
Krishna
11.1.3  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.2    5 days ago
Someone important.

There is someone important who is on Newstalkers?

Wow-- how exciting! 

 
 
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