Trump Is Now Openly Trying to Censor His Critics. He May Succeed.

  
Via:  larry-hampton  •  2 days ago  •  98 comments

Trump Is Now Openly Trying to Censor His Critics. He May Succeed.
His campaign’s cease and desist letter to broadcast stations is a frightening assault on free speech.

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Over the course of his presidency, Donald Trump has made thousands of false , offensive, and damaging claims that could hurt his reelection odds. Democrats plan to use these statements as campaign fodder through the November election. On Wednesday, the Trump campaign adopted a new tactic to neutralize these attacks: It threatened to sue critics of the president in a brazen effort to censor Trump’s opponents into silence. Any real legal action is unlikely to hold up against the First Amendment. But Trump doesn’t need to succeed in court in order to win.

This threat came in the form of a cease and desist letter sent to television broadcast stations across the country. The letter orders these networks to stop airing an ad created by Priorities USA, a Democratic Super PAC. That ad, “Existential Threat,” juxtaposes Trump’s many dismissive comments about the pandemic with a chart tracking the rising number of infections in the United States. It ends with one line of text: “America needs a leader we can trust.”


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Larry Hampton
1  seeder  Larry Hampton    2 days ago

But it doesn’t really matter what Trump meant, because the Priorities USA ad is obviously core political speech, fully protected by the First Amendment. Trump’s campaign suggests that it may seek to punish networks that air the ad in two ways: suing for defamation and urging the Federal Communications Commission to revoke their license. Although both approaches are deeply troubling assaults on free expression, and may chill constitutionally protected expression, neither is likely to succeed.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
1.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Larry Hampton @1    2 days ago

We have a leader we trust right now.  We are prepared to go to the mat to defend him and re elect him.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @1.1    2 days ago
We have a leader we trust right now.

Weird how the right is so eager to throw the constitution under the bus as soon as their leader tries to circumvent it's purpose. 

It's a free country but I find it pretty sad that you trust someone that's told over 16,000 lies in three years.

https://www.newsweek.com/less-40-percent-americans-trust-what-donald-trump-says-about-coronavirus-new-poll-shows-1492715

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2  Freedom Warrior    2 days ago

This is always been the horror of the left-wing fukwads. They absolutely lose it when Trump uses the tactics that they have employed incessantly against themselves.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2    2 days ago

So which dem leader sent a cease and desist letter? 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2.1.1  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    2 days ago

Or against themselves?

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Larry Hampton @2.1.1    2 days ago
Or against themselves?

I was trying to be polite and not point that part out. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    2 days ago

Start with Hillary Clinton, Obama etc...

Then start spinning how it's okay they did it, but when Trump does it, hyperventilate about facism.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2.1.4  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    2 days ago

When Obama was in office, did he send cease and desist papers to any news organizations?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Larry Hampton @2.1.4    2 days ago

As of tonight  the United States has more cases of coronavirus than any other country has or has had. We have more than China had at its peak, we have more than Italy has.  We have the most. Trump said it would barely come here and wouldnt last long. 

On what possible basis should he be immune from having his words played back to him? 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2.1.6  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    2 days ago

On the basis that it makes him look like a rat fink. 

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
2.1.7  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    2 days ago

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Tucker Carlson  focused the top of his Thursday show on New York City's battle with the  coronavirus , ripping city officials for increasing the "risk" for citizens and not taking the outbreak seriously in its early stages.

"As this deadly virus emerged from eastern China and began to spread inexorably across the globe, clearly headed here, leaders in New York not only failed to shield their citizens from it, they took affirmative and aggressive steps to increase the risk to their population," Carlson said.

"Why would they do that? Well, because they were worried far more about being called racist than protecting human lives. That's not an overstatement. That's not hyperbole."

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Carlson criticized New York City health commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot, among others, who dismissed the incoming threat of the coronavirus in February.

"The risk to New Yorkers from coronavirus is low and ... our preparedness as a city is very high," Barbot said at a Feb. 2 press conference supporting the Chinatown Lunar New Year Parade and Festival. "There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take a bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday [Feb. 9]."

"Future generations are gonna watch that video with their jaws open in disbelief," Carlson said in response to Barbot. "How could someone charged with protecting public health so recklessly endanger it?"

The host also criticized State senators John Liu and Brian Kavanaugh, who also advocated for the parade and downplayed the threat of the virus.

Carlson also highlighted New York City Mayor  Bill de Blasio  encouraged New Yorkers in early March to "get out on the town despite Coronavirus."

"Soon after that, people in New York inevitably started to get sick, in some cases very sick. In some cases, they died," Carlson said. "And then suddenly de Blasio was on 'Meet the Press' shrieking that Donald Trump had abandoned the city."

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Carlson said although blaming President Trump "almost always works," this pandemic may be "too horrible" to forget what de Blasio and other officials did.

"The media play along and move on to the next thing and no one remembers what actually happened. Will that happen this time? Maybe not," Carlson said. "This time might be different. This pandemic is too horrible."             https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-nyc-leaders-endangering-public-coronavirus         I hope you enjoy that playback of NYC democrats.  

 
 
 
bugsy
2.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Larry Hampton @2.1.4    2 days ago
When Obama was in office, did he send cease and desist papers to any news organizations?

Maybe not, but he did investigate some of the reporters he didn't like and barred others from some events.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.9  Freedom Warrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    2 days ago

Another common tactic. Pretend not to understand.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2.1.10  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.9    2 days ago

He didn't pretend not to understand, he asked a question. So answer it rather than attempting to obfuscate his comment or the issue. Though it's a common tactic, please discuss the issue rather than trying to muddy the waters.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.11  Freedom Warrior  replied to  bugsy @2.1.8    2 days ago

Don't take their bait.  The tactic isn't exclusive to any particular person of authority.  The tactic takes on many forms. It's embedded in cancellation culture, identity politics, race baiting, PC shaming, manipulative media outrage and extends to all manner of censoring.   The left employs it incessantly in order shut down opposition.  Trump has found ways to throw it back in their face.  One of the reasons they hate him so much,  He has been able to effectively implement these tools of polemics against them cause he is willing to absorb their blows somewhat like a rope-a-dope strategy.

They know.  Their "Who Me" feigned ignorance is just another part of the playbook.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.12  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Larry Hampton @2.1.10    2 days ago

I've already made my position clear.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @2.1.7    2 days ago
"As this deadly virus emerged from eastern China and began to spread inexorably across the globe, clearly headed here, leaders in New York not only failed to shield their citizens from it, they took affirmative and aggressive steps to increase the risk to their population," Carlson said. "Why would they do that? Well, because they were worried far more about being called racist than protecting human lives. That's not an overstatement. That's not hyperbole."

What a pile of utter BS. When the virus was in China, Trump was saying that it was not a problem in the US nor would it be. To blame NYers, is a filthy disgusting thing to do. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2.1.14  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  bugsy @2.1.8    2 days ago

Many administrations have had similar run-ins with the press, nothing new there. Attempting to legally shut down a news story, while sitting as POTUS, is despicable and constitutionally remarkable.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.13    2 days ago

RWNJ will never be honest about this. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2.1.16  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.11    2 days ago

Don't listen to that nonsense bugsy. It is an attempt to censure you and mandate what you think and say.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.17  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    yesterday
Start with Hillary Clinton, Obama etc...

Again, when did either of them send a cease and desist order to any major network? 

Typical, when you find something that Trump did that you disagree with, instead of just saying, "it's wrong", you spin yourself into knots trying to say, "Well, they did it too!!!!!!!!", further digging the hole you are already standing in. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.1.18  MrFrost  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.9    yesterday

Another common tactic. Pretend not to understand.

Oh I totally understand, I am just trying to get you to tell us factually, when Obama ever sent a cease and desist order to a network? Can you provide proof or not? Back up your statement or admit you lied. Simple. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.19  Freedom Warrior  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.18    yesterday

This is another common tactic to put words in my mouth that I never said

 
 
 
bugsy
2.1.20  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.13    yesterday
What a pile of utter BS

I kinda disagree. No one is blaming New Yorkers, they are blaming New York leadership. Only 3 weeks ago,March 2, DeBlasio told New Yorkers to go out and enjoy the city. By this time we were seeing deaths in Washington and cases showing up in other states. This was the same day New York recorded their first virus case.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @2.1.20    yesterday

Again, kind of mixed messages from the President at that time. Certainly, our governor was not saying that. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.1.22  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.21    yesterday

 I saw the video of him downplaying it and I saw several others doing the same Trump was the only one so don’t act like New York for leader ship doesn’t have any responsibility in the situation they most certainly do given the condition of the city and the state can’t have it both ways and that’s exactly what I’m hearing.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3  MrFrost    2 days ago

Signs of a fascist dictator:

1) Silence/control/discredit the media.

2) Hide personal assets.

3) Keep family close to the administration.

....

Trump has assaulted the free press since he took office. What he calls, "fake news", is usually a factual piece about trump that makes him look bad. The press is doing their job, trump is just a lying POS with literally no leadership skills at all. Not the press's fault. Trump just wants to silence any media that doesn't post daily pieces dripping with adulation for, "Dear Leader". Trump doesn't believe in the US Constitution, in fact, his DOJ has been quietly trying to 'suspend' the US Constitution until the coronavirus has passed...but lets be honest, as soon as it's suspended with trump in office, it will never be "reinstated". But that's another subject. 

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
3.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  MrFrost @3    2 days ago

Well your messiah dear leader lord Barry waged war on Fox News non stop.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @3.1    2 days ago
Well your messiah dear leader lord Barry waged war on Fox News non stop.  

When did he send a cease a desist letter? Did he ever take any legal action to silence them, or prevent them from reporting things that made Obama look bad? 

No. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @3.1    2 days ago

Well your messiah dear leader lord Barry waged war on Fox News non stop.  

Also, do not ever tell me who my messiah is. Only warning. Discuss the article, not people. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @3.1    2 days ago
 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
3.1.4  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.2    2 days ago

I will never ever stop referring to Obama as a false messiah,. https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/messianic-rhetoric-infuses-obama-rallies-007281

 
 
 
cjcold
3.1.5  cjcold  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @3.1    yesterday

Fox doesn't do news. Fox is nothing but a far right wing propaganda outlet.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
3.2  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MrFrost @3    2 days ago
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The Fake News is working overtime. Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?

Rump admits that when he says “fake news”, he means any press that is negative towards him. 
He is a complete ass.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.2    2 days ago

He is a fascist socialist. If ya look it up, dottard donny fits the description to a "T". 

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
3.2.2  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.2    2 days ago

Stop with the transference to Trump the key trait of his domestic opposition.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
3.2.3  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @3.2.2    2 days ago

You do realize that those are rump's own words on his own twitter feed, right? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.2    2 days ago

He wants them silenced claiming they are "inaccurate".   He still gets to remain on even though a lot of what he puts out is inaccurate.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.3  Freedom Warrior  replied to  MrFrost @3    2 days ago

Signs of a fascist dictator = has indeed D next to their party affiliation

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
3.3.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Freedom Warrior @3.3    2 days ago

Exactly.  Hillary would have been as fascist as Obama was.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.3.2  MrFrost  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @3.3.1    yesterday

Exactly.  Hillary would have been as fascist as Obama was.  

Weird, I have heard you call them liberal elites... Liberalism and fascism are literally the opposite ends of the political system. The only reason you are saying they are fascists is because trump IS a fascist. Projection, plain and simple. 

Fascists believe that   liberal democracy   is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a   totalitarian   one-party state   as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties. [9]   Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a   dictator   and a   martial   government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. [9]   Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature and views political violence, war and   imperialism   as means that can achieve national rejuvenation. [10] [11]   Fascists advocate a   mixed economy , with the principal goal of achieving   autarky   (national economic self-sufficiency) through   protectionist   and   interventionist   economic policies. [12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3    yesterday
Trump has assaulted the free press since he took office.

If you look closely, he only RETALIATED against the "press" that have gone nonstop at him with false information.  

The press is doing their job,

So it's joke day?

trump is just a lying POS with literally no leadership skills at all.

The same could be said about Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff.... But for some reason you are willing to ignore their lies and go into freakout mode over ONE politician. 

The rest of your "statement" equates to the typical leftist blathering we've heard since Novemver 2016.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
3.4.1  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    yesterday
If you look closely, he only RETALIATED against the "press" that have gone nonstop at him with false information. 

Not true. According to Trump, the press he considers to be "negative" towards him he calls "False". The press isn't actually false, he just doesn't like what they have to say. His own words.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.4.1    yesterday
The press isn't actually false

Their not actually true.  Press outlets like CNN and MSNBC have been railing against him and throwing their support 100% behind his opposition.  And have been supporting that same opposition since.  And the lemming crowd have lapped up every bit of Kool-aid they have made.

But you go ahead and show me where they weren't "actually false".

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
3.4.3  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4.2    yesterday

I'm saying that Trump labels anything that he perceives as negative, as being false. Do you agree with that Jeremy? That if someone says something negative, it should be considered as untrue?

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    yesterday
If you look closely, he only RETALIATED against the "press" that have gone nonstop at him with false information.  

Virtually every single thing trump has claimed was fake news, has turned out to be true. Stormy Daniels comes to mind as one of those stories that was, "Total fake news by the fake news media"....which we now know was 100% accurate. The list is really long.

So it's joke day?

If I must... The joke is that trump is pissed that the media reports what he says. Joke? Not really, more of a factual statement. Sorry, I tried. 

The same could be said about Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff.... But for some reason you are willing to ignore their lies and go into freakout mode over ONE politician. 

All politicians lie, that's a simple fact. Another fact is that between the three of them, they are nowhere even close to the number of lies trump has told...it's no contest. 

The rest of your "statement" equates to the typical leftist blathering we've heard since Novemver 2016.  

Well, then allow me to retort. 

You are doing what rightists have been doing since trump took office; as soon as trump does something wrong? Just blame the left. Cleaning up after trumps lying cocksucker must be a full time job. 

But on another note, I know you are into cars.. Give this guy a look, funny and good with cars. 

Vice Grip Garage.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsfu-jdkX2_v2t3_igVQebg

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.4.5  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4.2    yesterday
Press outlets like CNN and MSNBC have been railing against him and throwing their support 100% behind his opposition.

1) Not true.

2) Did you have a problem with it when fox fake news and brietfart went after Obama, every single day for 8 fucking years? Nope. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4  MUVA    2 days ago

Trump should nationalize all news media and only put out real news [.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @4    2 days ago

I have a better idea. He should just shut up. Let the medical professionals deal with it. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.1  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 days ago

Some want industries nationalized he should give them the full Monty start with CNN and MSNBC and the fake news stops.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.1.2  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MUVA @4.1.1    2 days ago

When you say fake, you mean negative, right? Just like rump means?

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.3  MUVA  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.1.2    2 days ago

No I mean fake like CNN and MSNBC [.]

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.1.4  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MUVA @4.1.3    2 days ago

Hmm,...you and rump differ in your [explanations Deleted]

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MUVA @4    2 days ago

Sounds pretty Commie; should we also round up political dissidents? Gag unruly judges? Place restrictions on public gatherings discussing censored subjects. 
I see why you and rump get along so well, he would love all them ideas. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.1  MUVA  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2    2 days ago

Do you want industry nationalized? He could get respirators made and stop the fake news and panic merchants in one swoope.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2.2  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MUVA @4.2.1    2 days ago

You were talking about the government taking over news outlets and blogging sites. Does that jive with the Constitution or anything even remotely American? 

Do not try and deflect here. Finish what you started. Come on and explain how nationalizing media promotes America, or how/who exactly will figure out what the “real” news is that should be delivered to the public?

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.3  MUVA  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2.2    2 days ago

Ok I'm pulling your leg. I'm being flip or facetious. I don't take myself serious as some being  my opinion means zero. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2.4  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MUVA @4.2.3    2 days ago

I don't know Muva, you seemed pretty serious last night. Perhaps you've had time to think about the transparency of your comment, and decided that you've revealed more to us than you intended to? 

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
4.2.5  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2.4    2 days ago

No.  He was pulling your leg and you fell for it.  By the way, adults refer to our elected leaders by their names.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2.6  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @4.2.5    2 days ago

Oh yeah, sorta like your comment here was just pulling my leg?

Trump should create a national media bias fact check and create ratings to limit the exposure of sources and sites that they rate by their system questionable or propaganda.

Nope, he wasn't pulling my leg and neither are you. The extremists on the Right would LOVE to see rump be in charge of what news is released to the public.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.7  MUVA  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2.6    2 days ago

It called a joke my friend.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2.8  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MUVA @4.2.7    2 days ago

Hhhmmmm...jokes are funny, aren't they?

 
 
 
cjcold
4.2.9  cjcold  replied to  MUVA @4.2.7    yesterday

Was it a collect call?

 
 
 
MUVA
4.2.10  MUVA  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2.8    yesterday

Man it must be hard to walk.

[Larry, MUVA, and DJTF1 - I'm closing this thread.  Cease fire, gentlemen.]

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    2 days ago

I'm not buying the outrage. If Trump were just ranting that the ad was telling lies about him, his critics would dare him to go to court. That's exactly what the letter threatens to do. There's no executive action threatened. They just say the ad is knowingly spreading lies and they will seek a remedy in court. It's all perfectly legal. Trump might win and he might lose. That's the legal process.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5    2 days ago

The ad is nothing but his own words. What is the lie?  If anything it leaves it to the listener to provide a conclusion.

The ad has a point of view, but every political ad does.  There are no lies here. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    2 days ago
There are no lies here.

That's fine. That's a valid point of view. Let the parties argue the matter in front of a judge. No need to act like the 1st Amendment is under assault.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
5.1.2  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.1    2 days ago

Trump should create a national media bias fact check and create ratings to limit the exposure of sources and sites that they rate by their system questionable or propaganda.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.3  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.2    2 days ago

Another one wanting to throw out the constitution, and censor news organizations they don't like.

384

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.1.4  r.t..b...  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.2    2 days ago
that they rate by their system

There is so much wrong, unconstitutional, and truly frightening in this kind of thinking. Who exactly is 'they' and what 'system' will determine what and what is not questionable? Does it change with every change in administration? Be careful what you wish for. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.5  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1.4    2 days ago

Exactly. That is the third member in the last 24 hours to make this sorta suggestion.Truly frightening.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
5.1.6  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1.4    2 days ago

How is what I facetiously suggested there any different than what actually happens here?  

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
5.1.7  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1.4    2 days ago

If I really meant for our national leaders to replicate here I’d agree with you in full.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
5.1.8  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.3    2 days ago

another who didn’t notice media bias fact check embedded in my post.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.9  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.6    2 days ago

You are the second person in 24 hours to make such a suggestion and then claim you were being facetious. I don't believe you. I think you would like it if rump were in control of the media,,,,wouldn't you?

As well, unlike our country, The NewsTalkers is not a Democracy.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.10  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.8    2 days ago

Oh I noticed alright. So tell me, would rump or his lackeys be the ones deciding what is media bias?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.1.11  r.t..b...  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.6    2 days ago
How is what I facetiously suggested

...this is sadly the new normal...get called out for a dangerous statement only to inevitably walk it back saying it was 'facetious', 'contextually misconstrued', or the 'alternate truth'... and somehow we are expected to ignore the actual intent?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.12  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.3    2 days ago
and censor news organizations they don't like.

Do you include NT in group?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.12    2 days ago

There is no censorship here on the site. You can post from most publications. We have a community standard in place though. 

 
 
 
katrix
5.1.14  katrix  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.2    2 days ago

Why do you despise facts so much?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.15  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.13    2 days ago

Isn't community standard code for "news organizations they don't like."

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.16  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.12    2 days ago

I dunno, you will have to ask DJTF as I was responding to his comment.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.15    2 days ago

No. We use MBFC which allows both right and left wing media. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.18  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.17    2 days ago
MBFC

Great tool.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @5.1.2    yesterday
Trump should create a national media bias fact check

Trump is the most politically divisive and partisan president this country has ever had. Do you REALLY think he would be unbiased in this instance? Never in a million years, it would literally be every publication in the country that supports him as factual and any publication that has ever said anything negative, (but factual), against trump would be shut down. 

Really, REALLY piss poor idea, HA. Next time, just say you don't want freedom of speech. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.20  MrFrost  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.13    yesterday
There is no censorship here on the site.

I would love to agree with you here. But, as recent events have proven, this is simply not true. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.21  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.17    yesterday

How in the hell does that matter?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.22  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.16    yesterday

Well I do

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.23  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.21    yesterday

Well because you stated  "Isn't community standard code for "news organizations they don't like."

Her response is an explanation of what standard we use to determine a site or story's credibility. We don't include/exclude sites on the basis of what we "like", but rather use MBFC to help negotiate the extreme falsehoods found online.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.24  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.23    yesterday

So basically MBFC is a proxy for organizations they don’t like. 

if you don’t realize that then this dialogue is over

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.25  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.24    yesterday

Nah, C'mon man, explain that. 

What standard would you use if you ran a blogging site? How would you determine what is credible? 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.26  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.25    yesterday

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[Impasse] [An impasse may be issued in a thread during a heated discussion.  Issuing an impasse ends all discussion between the issuing member and the target member within the thread.  It also prevents the issuer from any further activity on the thread;  if you issue an impasse, you are leaving the thread.   (For example, issuing an impasse for comment ‘2.5.2’ applies to all comments starting with ‘2.5’ between the two members).   To issue an impasse, the issuing member clicks on the user’s avatar for the target member’s offending comment and selects Impasse.   Both the issuing and target members will now see IMPASSE in place of the REPLY function.] [Impasses that are written out will not be honored.] 

[Note:  you cannot issue an Impasse if you have had the last word.]   [You can only Impasse on a comment that follows your last comment in the thread.   Also, you cannot impasse in a thread unless you created the thread or have commented within the thread.]

[Abuse of impasse to not engage with specific individuals may result in a ticket.]

I will add that it is poor form to flag someone for violating an Impasse, that does not actually exist

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.27  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.26    yesterday

removed for context

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.28  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.26    yesterday

[deleted]

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.28    yesterday

You can only IMPASSE if you have engaged in direct exchange with an individual and that individual has had the last word.

In short, you cannot comment in a thread and then try to IMPASSE an individual in the thread; the individual you IMPASSE must have the last word.

Finally, you cannot IMPASSE the seeder / author.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
5.1.30  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1.28    yesterday

there is a button for impasse. Here is the link for the CoC where it explains how it works. 
https://thenewstalkers.com/code_of_conduct

,,,or if you read the comment above inside your comment, you will also see instructions to guide you through the process. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1.31  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.30    12 hours ago

if there’s a button it doesn’t exist on my platform therefore the system doesn’t work and the rest is fucking bullshit

[Perhaps if you'd read thoroughly, you'd have seen this:]

[Finally, you cannot] [IMPASSE] [the seeder / author.

 
 
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