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Trump Is Now Openly Trying to Censor His Critics. He May Succeed.

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  larry-hampton  •  4 years ago  •  99 comments

Trump Is Now Openly Trying to Censor His Critics. He May Succeed.
His campaign’s cease and desist letter to broadcast stations is a frightening assault on free speech.

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Over the course of his presidency, Donald Trump has made thousands of false , offensive, and damaging claims that could hurt his reelection odds. Democrats plan to use these statements as campaign fodder through the November election. On Wednesday, the Trump campaign adopted a new tactic to neutralize these attacks: It threatened to sue critics of the president in a brazen effort to censor Trump’s opponents into silence. Any real legal action is unlikely to hold up against the First Amendment. But Trump doesn’t need to succeed in court in order to win.

This threat came in the form of a cease and desist letter sent to television broadcast stations across the country. The letter orders these networks to stop airing an ad created by Priorities USA, a Democratic Super PAC. That ad, “Existential Threat,” juxtaposes Trump’s many dismissive comments about the pandemic with a chart tracking the rising number of infections in the United States. It ends with one line of text: “America needs a leader we can trust.”


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Larry Hampton
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1  seeder  Larry Hampton    4 years ago

But it doesn’t really matter what Trump meant, because the Priorities USA ad is obviously core political speech, fully protected by the First Amendment. Trump’s campaign suggests that it may seek to punish networks that air the ad in two ways: suing for defamation and urging the Federal Communications Commission to revoke their license. Although both approaches are deeply troubling assaults on free expression, and may chill constitutionally protected expression, neither is likely to succeed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Larry Hampton @1    4 years ago

We have a leader we trust right now.  We are prepared to go to the mat to defend him and re elect him.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    4 years ago
We have a leader we trust right now.

Weird how the right is so eager to throw the constitution under the bus as soon as their leader tries to circumvent it's purpose. 

It's a free country but I find it pretty sad that you trust someone that's told over 16,000 lies in three years.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3  MrFrost    4 years ago

Signs of a fascist dictator:

1) Silence/control/discredit the media.

2) Hide personal assets.

3) Keep family close to the administration.

....

Trump has assaulted the free press since he took office. What he calls, "fake news", is usually a factual piece about trump that makes him look bad. The press is doing their job, trump is just a lying POS with literally no leadership skills at all. Not the press's fault. Trump just wants to silence any media that doesn't post daily pieces dripping with adulation for, "Dear Leader". Trump doesn't believe in the US Constitution, in fact, his DOJ has been quietly trying to 'suspend' the US Constitution until the coronavirus has passed...but lets be honest, as soon as it's suspended with trump in office, it will never be "reinstated". But that's another subject. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @3    4 years ago

Well your messiah dear leader lord Barry waged war on Fox News non stop.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago
Well your messiah dear leader lord Barry waged war on Fox News non stop.  

When did he send a cease a desist letter? Did he ever take any legal action to silence them, or prevent them from reporting things that made Obama look bad? 

No. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

Well your messiah dear leader lord Barry waged war on Fox News non stop.  

Also, do not ever tell me who my messiah is. Only warning. Discuss the article, not people. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

At Michigan's Henry Ford Hospital

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XXJefferson51
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3.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.2    4 years ago

I will never ever stop referring to Obama as a false messiah,.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.5  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago

Fox doesn't do news. Fox is nothing but a far right wing propaganda outlet.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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3.2  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  MrFrost @3    4 years ago
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The Fake News is working overtime. Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?

Rump admits that when he says “fake news”, he means any press that is negative towards him. 
He is a complete ass.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.2    4 years ago

He is a fascist socialist. If ya look it up, dottard donny fits the description to a "T". 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.2    4 years ago

Stop with the transference to Trump the key trait of his domestic opposition.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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3.2.3  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.2    4 years ago

You do realize that those are rump's own words on his own twitter feed, right? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.2    4 years ago

He wants them silenced claiming they are "inaccurate".   He still gets to remain on even though a lot of what he puts out is inaccurate.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3    4 years ago
Trump has assaulted the free press since he took office.

If you look closely, he only RETALIATED against the "press" that have gone nonstop at him with false information.  

The press is doing their job,

So it's joke day?

trump is just a lying POS with literally no leadership skills at all.

The same could be said about Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff.... But for some reason you are willing to ignore their lies and go into freakout mode over ONE politician. 

The rest of your "statement" equates to the typical leftist blathering we've heard since Novemver 2016.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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3.4.1  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    4 years ago
If you look closely, he only RETALIATED against the "press" that have gone nonstop at him with false information. 

Not true. According to Trump, the press he considers to be "negative" towards him he calls "False". The press isn't actually false, he just doesn't like what they have to say. His own words.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Larry Hampton @3.4.1    4 years ago
The press isn't actually false

Their not actually true.  Press outlets like CNN and MSNBC have been railing against him and throwing their support 100% behind his opposition.  And have been supporting that same opposition since.  And the lemming crowd have lapped up every bit of Kool-aid they have made.

But you go ahead and show me where they weren't "actually false".

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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3.4.3  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4.2    4 years ago

I'm saying that Trump labels anything that he perceives as negative, as being false. Do you agree with that Jeremy? That if someone says something negative, it should be considered as untrue?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.4.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    4 years ago
If you look closely, he only RETALIATED against the "press" that have gone nonstop at him with false information.  

Virtually every single thing trump has claimed was fake news, has turned out to be true. Stormy Daniels comes to mind as one of those stories that was, "Total fake news by the fake news media"....which we now know was 100% accurate. The list is really long.

So it's joke day?

If I must... The joke is that trump is pissed that the media reports what he says. Joke? Not really, more of a factual statement. Sorry, I tried. 

The same could be said about Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff.... But for some reason you are willing to ignore their lies and go into freakout mode over ONE politician. 

All politicians lie, that's a simple fact. Another fact is that between the three of them, they are nowhere even close to the number of lies trump has told...it's no contest. 

The rest of your "statement" equates to the typical leftist blathering we've heard since Novemver 2016.  

Well, then allow me to retort. 

You are doing what rightists have been doing since trump took office; as soon as trump does something wrong? Just blame the left. Cleaning up after trumps lying cocksucker must be a full time job. 

But on another note, I know you are into cars.. Give this guy a look, funny and good with cars. 

Vice Grip Garage.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.4.5  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4.2    4 years ago
Press outlets like CNN and MSNBC have been railing against him and throwing their support 100% behind his opposition.

1) Not true.

2) Did you have a problem with it when fox fake news and brietfart went after Obama, every single day for 8 fucking years? Nope. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.4.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3.4.5    4 years ago
1) Not true.

Then prove me wrong.

Did you have a problem with it when fox fake news and brietfart went after Obama, every single day for 8 fucking years?

It's cute you think I rely on the train wreck people call "news" outlets.  Not a single one reported news in over a decade.  Fox went after Barry, CNN & (P)MSNBC went after Donnie.  And all for what?  Partisan bullshit and agendas.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    4 years ago

I'm not buying the outrage. If Trump were just ranting that the ad was telling lies about him, his critics would dare him to go to court. That's exactly what the letter threatens to do. There's no executive action threatened. They just say the ad is knowingly spreading lies and they will seek a remedy in court. It's all perfectly legal. Trump might win and he might lose. That's the legal process.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5    4 years ago

The ad is nothing but his own words. What is the lie?  If anything it leaves it to the listener to provide a conclusion.

The ad has a point of view, but every political ad does.  There are no lies here. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    4 years ago
There are no lies here.

That's fine. That's a valid point of view. Let the parties argue the matter in front of a judge. No need to act like the 1st Amendment is under assault.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.1    4 years ago

Trump should create a national media bias fact check and create ratings to limit the exposure of sources and sites that they rate by their system questionable or propaganda.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.3  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago

Another one wanting to throw out the constitution, and censor news organizations they don't like.

384

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.5  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to    4 years ago

Exactly. That is the third member in the last 24 hours to make this sorta suggestion.Truly frightening.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.6  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

How is what I facetiously suggested there any different than what actually happens here?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.7  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

If I really meant for our national leaders to replicate here I’d agree with you in full.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.8  XXJefferson51  replied to  Larry Hampton @5.1.3    4 years ago

another who didn’t notice media bias fact check embedded in my post.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.9  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.6    4 years ago

You are the second person in 24 hours to make such a suggestion and then claim you were being facetious. I don't believe you. I think you would like it if rump were in control of the media,,,,wouldn't you?

As well, unlike our country, The NewsTalkers is not a Democracy.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.10  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.8    4 years ago

Oh I noticed alright. So tell me, would rump or his lackeys be the ones deciding what is media bias?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.12    4 years ago

There is no censorship here on the site. You can post from most publications. We have a community standard in place though. 

 
 
 
katrix
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5.1.14  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago

Why do you despise facts so much?

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.16  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.12    4 years ago

I dunno, you will have to ask DJTF as I was responding to his comment.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.15    4 years ago

No. We use MBFC which allows both right and left wing media. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.18  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.17    4 years ago
MBFC

Great tool.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    4 years ago
Trump should create a national media bias fact check

Trump is the most politically divisive and partisan president this country has ever had. Do you REALLY think he would be unbiased in this instance? Never in a million years, it would literally be every publication in the country that supports him as factual and any publication that has ever said anything negative, (but factual), against trump would be shut down. 

Really, REALLY piss poor idea, HA. Next time, just say you don't want freedom of speech. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.20  MrFrost  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.13    4 years ago
There is no censorship here on the site.

I would love to agree with you here. But, as recent events have proven, this is simply not true. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.23  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.21    4 years ago

Well because you stated  "Isn't community standard code for "news organizations they don't like."

Her response is an explanation of what standard we use to determine a site or story's credibility. We don't include/exclude sites on the basis of what we "like", but rather use MBFC to help negotiate the extreme falsehoods found online.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.25  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.24    4 years ago

Nah, C'mon man, explain that. 

What standard would you use if you ran a blogging site? How would you determine what is credible? 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.27  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.26    4 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.28    4 years ago

You can only IMPASSE if you have engaged in direct exchange with an individual and that individual has had the last word.

In short, you cannot comment in a thread and then try to IMPASSE an individual in the thread; the individual you IMPASSE must have the last word.

Finally, you cannot IMPASSE the seeder / author.  

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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5.1.30  seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @5.1.28    4 years ago

there is a button for impasse. Here is the link for the CoC where it explains how it works. 

,,,or if you read the comment above inside your comment, you will also see instructions to guide you through the process. 

 
 

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