Coronavirus cases are on the rise in Texas and other states that reopened early, former FDA chief says

  
Via:  krishna  •  3 weeks ago  •  17 comments

By:   William Feuer

Coronavirus cases are on the rise in Texas and other states that reopened early, former FDA chief says
Dozens of states have lifted restrictions and reopened despite failing to meet certain criteria published by the White House

Watch what happens in the next week or two in states such as Alabama, South Dakota, and Texas jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png .

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Mike Pence refused to wear a mask when visiting The Mayo Clinic. (Business Insider)

Alabama, South Dakota and Texas have already begun to see an uptick in confirmed coronavirus cases since they eased coronavirus restrictions and begun reopening nonessential businesses.

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey let the state’s stay-at-home order expire on April 30, allowing retail stores to reopen at 50% capacity.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem never issued a stay-at-home order and has offered guidance to businesses and schools on how to limit capacity to practice social distancing.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced the decision to reopen some businesses, including malls, on May 1.

The bottom line is a lot of states are now reopening activity against a backdrop that doesn’t meet the criteria that the White House set out in terms of when it would be safe to reopen. We’re going to see cases go up now that we’re reopening.”


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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    3 weeks ago

Alabama, South Dakota and Texas have already begun to see an uptick in confirmed coronavirus cases since they eased coronavirus restrictions and begun reopening nonessential businesses..

 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    3 weeks ago

The bottom line is a lot of states are now reopening activity against a backdrop that doesn’t meet the criteria that the White House set out in terms of when it would be safe to reopen.

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.1  Gordy327  replied to  Krishna @2    3 weeks ago

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FLYNAVY1
2.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Krishna @2    2 weeks ago

The number of cases isn't of as much interests to me as is the death count from the virus.  You can't hide body bags.

Of course the Trump administration is pushing to change how the CDC counts the bodies to cover for it's dismal response to the pandemic. 

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/497602-trump-administration-pushing-cdc-to-change-how-it

 
 
 
Split Personality
3  Split Personality    3 weeks ago

All of the major cities in Texas were in the midst of increasing hospitalizations day after day when Abbott announced the reopening

but fatalities are low so no one gives a damn

and the hardest hit 30 counties are heavily Democratic, the other 224 counties of cattle and oil, not so much.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @3    3 weeks ago
All of the major cities in Texas were in the midst of increasing hospitalizations day after day when Abbott announced the reopening but fatalities are low so no one gives a damn

It seems in most areas there's a pattern. The first cases appear. Then for a while there's an extremely quick increase in the number if new cases each day. Then while still increasing, the rate of increase slows a bit although the total number continues to increase. 

Then-- the death toll begins to rise...

Eventually all this tapers off in those areas..... 

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1    3 weeks ago
It seems in most areas there's a pattern. The first cases appear. Then for a while there's an extremely quick increase in the number if new cases each day. Then while still increasing, the rate of increase slows a bit although the total number continues to increase. 

Then-- the death toll begins to rise...

Eventually all this tapers off in those areas..... 

There also seems to be another pattern that's beginning to emerge.

After the daily death toll in first, hardest hit areas begins to drop dramatically, the pattern starts again. But this time in the areas that were previously considered fairly safe. 

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

After the daily death toll in first, hardest hit areas begins to drop dramatically, the pattern starts again. But this time in the areas that were previously considered fairly safe. 

While the number of both new cases and deaths in the original areas approaches zero, the new cases begin to start in other areas.

(The original areas were densely populated so the virus spread quickly-- but he pattern is just starting to begin in the rural, more sparsely populated areas...watch what happens there over the next two weeks or so...)

 
 
 
Krishna
3.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @3    3 weeks ago
but fatalities are low so no one gives a damn

I remember that in the first states to get hit hard (with daily numbers of new cases) for a while there were few if any deaths. That starts to happen a bit later...

 
 
 
MonsterMash
4  MonsterMash    3 weeks ago

With guidelines in place, Arkansas opened gyms on 4 May, hair salons and barbers on the 6th and restaurants on the 11th. Since the 4th of May Arkansas is averaging 4 new cases of COVID-19 per day. Not much to get in a panic about.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  MonsterMash @4    3 weeks ago

Two words:

Incubation Period

 
 
 
MonsterMash
4.1.1  MonsterMash  replied to  Krishna @4.1    3 weeks ago
Two words: Incubation Period

Alabama, South Dakota, and Texas have already begun to see an uptick in confirmed coronavirus cases since they eased coronavirus restrictions and begun reopening nonessential businesses.

So Alabama, South Dakota, and Texas's new cases aren't due to eased coronavirus restrictions and reopening nonessential businesses. I guess we can dismiss your seeded article as FAKE NEWS since you wanted it to appear it was due to the reopening of nonessential businessess.

You win

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Sean Treacy
4.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Krishna @4.1    3 weeks ago

Georgia was the first state to reopen. It’s actually been two weeks. What’s happened to it’s new cases? Are it’s hospitals more or less full then they were two weeks ago?

what about Illinois? It’s remained in lockdown and it’s cases have skyrocketed.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
Georgia was the first state to reopen. It’s actually been two weeks. What’s happened to it’s new cases? Are it’s hospitals more or less full then they were two weeks ago?

I knew this was going to be the question. I have the numbers from 5/3 for Georgia 28,007 cases 1172 dead. As of May 13, 35,463 cases and 1,517 dead. So increases across the board and not even a 2 week period. 

The largest city in Georgia is Atlanta with a population of 523,738.

The largest city in Illinois is Chicago with a population of 2,718,555. 4 times the size and a lot denser. 

So really not a good point of comparison.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.3    3 weeks ago

First off, Georgia the number of new infections  have decreased 12% week over week. I have No idea what you are try to say with your numbers. No one is claiming there would be zero cases or that opening the state would cause the virus to stop killing people who were infected weeks ago.  The number to look at is new infections and whether they spiked as was claimed would happen. 

They obviously haven’t spiked. They’ve decreased.

the comparison is apt because the number of new infections is rising in Illinois p, despite being closed, while they’ve fallen in Georgia despite being open. The relative size of the states is irrelevant(although Georgia’s numbers per capita are much better) . What matters is whether the numbers of infections in closed states is going down while it goes up in open states. That’s not happening.  Infections are going up in some closed states and down in others. Same as those that are open.  What does that tell you?  M

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago
"Alabama, South Dakota and Texas have already begun to see an uptick in confirmed coronavirus cases since they eased coronavirus restrictions and begun reopening nonessential businesses."

Absolutely predictable.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    2 weeks ago

Absolutely predictable

If you don't actually look at the data and accept cherry picked numbers, sure it's predictable what narrative you are going to get. For starters, South Dakota never locked down, so including it as a data point to confirm what going on in "newly opening" states is obviously wrong. Plus, it's numbers are about 1/3 of what they were at it's peak in April. 

Maybe you noticed that the states that have been locked down for months are among those seeing the biggest growths?  Illinois had the most new cases again today.  When Georgia opened up, Illinois had about 2,200 cases a day. The numbers have spiked to about 3,000 new infections  a day this week. Guess what happened to Georgia, who was supposed to see a big spike in cases 2 weeks after it opened? The daily number of new cases are down. The predicted spike never happened.  Meanwhile, Virginia, which continues to maintain shelter in place, continues to see increasing numbers of new cases on a daily basis.

If you look at the data, and not partisan hackery like this article, you'd see it's a mixed bag. Some states that have been locked down forever are still going up, some opened states are going down. And vice versa.  There is no correlation between states opening and spikes in the infection rate. 

 
 
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