Three men indicted with murder of Black jogger in Georgia

  

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Via:  flynavy1  •  2 weeks ago  •  41 comments

By:   Rich McKay

Three men indicted with murder of Black jogger in Georgia
On Wednesday, a grand jury returned a nine-count indictment against all three men, charging each with malice murder, felony murder, aggravated assault and false imprisonment, the indictment shows.

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ATLANTA (Reuters) - Three white men arrested last month in the slaying of a Black man who was gunned down as he jogged through a suburban neighborhood in Georgia four months ago were indicted on Wednesday on murder and other charges.

Video footage showing the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, 25, in the coastal Georgia town of Brunswick emerged on social media and went viral in May, some 10 weeks after his death, stoking public outrage at the lack of arrests at that time.

Days later, the two men seen confronting Arbery in the video, former police officer George McMichael, 64, and his son, Travis McMichael, 34, were taken into custody and charged with murder. William “Roddie” Bryan Jr., 50, who videotaped the Feb. 23 shooting, was later arrested and also charged with murder.

On Wednesday, a grand jury returned a nine-count indictment against all three men, charging each with malice murder, felony murder, aggravated assault and false imprisonment, the indictment shows. The three remain jailed without bond. 

 


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FLYNAVY1
1  seeder  FLYNAVY1    2 weeks ago

Innocent till proven guilty......

If found guilty......  I think a public lynching would be appropriate.  

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
1.1  Citizen Kane-473667  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1    2 weeks ago
Innocent till proven guilty......

It might be a lot more difficult to get the conviction than most people think due to Georgia Law.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @1.1    2 weeks ago

Well laid out.   Just the facts ma'am ....

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
1.1.2  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @1.1    2 weeks ago

Thank you for sharing this video. Based on the info he showed / provided, I thought [before he said it], "It's manslaughter based on Georgia Laws."

George had already called the police. He didn't need to persue just because he had the "right" to do so. I don't care if Arbery got away with some construction equipment, it doesn't justify persuing and killing him. I get that George felt that he was threatened, but after he called 911, he and his son should've pulled off the road, pulled out a camera to get a good face photo and submitted that to the police. There were so many other ways that this situation could have prevented a death and subsequent arrests.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @1.1    2 weeks ago

This guy is very impressive and would make a great defense attorney.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

Yep but that's for a duly appointed jury to decide after a legal trial.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
1.1.5  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

Oh. I agree. It was just my first thought based on the video.

 
 
 
Kavika
2  Kavika     2 weeks ago

If the video didn't appear on social media these scum bags would have never faced justice. The whole damn bunch of asshatz in that county need to voted the hell out of office.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Kavika @2    2 weeks ago

Yep..... make body cams mandatory equipment for law enforcement, and their video content property of the public.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1    2 weeks ago

Agreed, but they actually have to turn them on. That is the problem in many cases. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3  Paula Bartholomew    2 weeks ago

One look at these two inbred knuckle draggers and you just know they aren't playing with a full deck.

 
 
 
devangelical
3.1  devangelical  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    2 weeks ago

2 quarts low in the brain pan. 8 generations of finding a spouse at the annual family reunion.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  devangelical @3.1    2 weeks ago

2 quarts low in the brain pan. 8 generations of finding a spouse at the annual family reunion.

Sadly, there are members on this site that hold these individuals in high esteem. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

Sadly there are members here who are already clearly prejudiced against them without knowing all the facts.

Very sad indeed.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1.3  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

Vs. those that killed a man out of prejudice, facts being unnecessary.  Yeah..... that works to balance things./s

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
that killed a man out of prejudice

You don't know that since your aren't privy to all the facts in this case.   Therefore your reaction is uninformed and emotional even.   Neither play well in any court of law in this United States of America.    You are clearly allowing your biases to negatively affect your judgement.

Funny, one would think a Naval Officer could easily grasp those concepts

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1.5  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

Nope... Enlisted Puke.

When it is clear from the tape of this killing you can hear one of the defendants say after Ahmaud is down..... "F___in Ni__er" makes it hard to think that race didn't have something to do with this murder.   But agreed, innocent until proven guilty.  Let the courts do their work.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.1.5    2 weeks ago
But agreed, innocent until proven guilty.  Let the courts do their work.

That's all i'm saying.  

Too many folks these days allow themselves to be talked into a rushed judgement driven largely by a more ever present media.

The NASCAR debacle is proof of that.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.2    2 weeks ago
Sadly there are members here who are already clearly prejudiced against them without knowing all the facts.

What other "facts" do you need after watching the full video of then running him down and shooting him like some inbred hick version of Jurassic Park? Hunting black men from the back of a truck like he was some wild animal?

Are we supposed to ignore the video if it turns out that the racist white guys in the truck gunning him down had a "good reason"? What? Did the black man hit on their daughter/sister? Should we dismiss the video if it turns out the black man ever did anything wrong in his past? Does it justify that video even if just prior they witnessed the black man committing some crime? Of course not, but I suppose some racists think that might make a difference, but sane rational Americans would know that nothing justified what we saw in the video.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.6    2 weeks ago
Too many folks these days allow themselves to be talked into a rushed judgement driven largely by a more ever present media. The NASCAR debacle is proof of that.

Two separate cases, two separate investigations, two separate outcomes to be determined as the process proscribes.

Conflating anecdotal incidents under the 'ever present media' umbrella actually hampers the role of law enforcement, our judicial system, and the 'law-and-order' mantra that is the 2020 center piece of the GOP platform. Spending time and effort in painting the media as 'bogeyman' does nothing but deflect attention from the time and effort and leadership required to address the myriad issues facing our country.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

Facts that come from an actual trial and not a media kangaroo court.   Otherwise you get goatfuks like the NASCAR noose debacle.

But, i suppose if it tracks with your preferred narrative, who cares right?   Justice be damned

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.9    2 weeks ago
Justice be damned

No, Sparty, Justice is being demanded.

The chorus is all around us while some are determined to plug their ears and somehow equate the news coverage of a garage door pull down with actual murders. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.10    2 weeks ago

No rtb,

When one rushes to judgement, without all the facts, without a legal trial, there is no justice.

Ever

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.9    2 weeks ago
Otherwise you get goatfuks like the NASCAR noose debacle.

Was someone unjustly accused in that case? Or are you just standing up for "white folk" in general since it looked at first like it might have been some white racist racers? Why not use the example of the many, many young black men who are wrongly accused and convicted of crimes they didn't commit? To date, 367 people in the United States have been exonerated by DNA testing, including 21 who served time on death row and the vast majority of those are black Americans. But no, you want to point out where someone dared to besmirch "whites" in general without getting all the facts first.

We had no video of someone intentionally trying and placing a noose as they said "F___in Ni__er", because if we did we'd be able to say that case was pretty much cut & dried, much like in this case. Yes, they will get a fair trial, but a fair trial includes playing that video for the jury and telling the jury that it doesn't matter one wit what these dumb fuck bigots imagined this black man to have done, they had NO right to run and gun him down like a wild animal.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.12    2 weeks ago

Nah, people rushed to judgement without all the facts.   Then the mass media and many people here had a good spaz out about it until the facts were in.   Now they all have egg on their faces.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.13    2 weeks ago
Then the mass media and many people here had a good spaz out about it until the facts were in.   Now they all have egg on their faces.

You might have noticed I did not weigh in on that seed because I knew the facts weren't all in and I had seen no pictures yet of the supposed offense. However, that was a very different case than this one where we all got to watch these dumb fucks run this man down and shoot an unarmed man who was simply trying to defend himself from a rabid racist attack.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.14    2 weeks ago

And you might have notice i haven't judged anyones guilt or innocence but that doesn't change a damn thing with the foundational principle of our justice system.

Innocent until proven guilty.  

That doesn't happen via the mass media or the internet.   Only a legal trial can do that.   And there hasn't been one of those yet in this case .....

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

The police were called, and those men had no right to kill Ahmaud Arbery. Furthermore, this is what the homeowner has said:

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
3.1.17  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.16    2 weeks ago

I'm glad that the English family [the owners of that property under construction] came out and made these statements. Like you... unless he was in the process of murdering someone else himself, Ahmaud should NEVER have even been approached to begin with, let alone with force. Trespassing was the only crime that we can see that Ahmaud committed, which certainly doesn't justify what happened. As I stated above, there's so many other ways this could've been handled without a senseless death and arrests.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.18  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.6    2 weeks ago

Their trial will be very interesting indeed.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
3.1.19  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.18    2 weeks ago

I can't imagine that they're going to be able to find very many, if at all, anyone that has NOT followed or heard of the case to fill the jury with non-biased jurors at this point.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4  XDm9mm    2 weeks ago

From what i saw of the videos, my reaction is they're guilty. 

BUT, having said that, I have no idea what transpired before that, so at this point and until a verdict is rendered, they're innocent until proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

I still can't understand why the third guy was charged with murder.  Because he made the video??

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.1  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @4    2 weeks ago

Watch the video in 1.1

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Sparty On @4.1    2 weeks ago
Watch the video in 1.1

Yeah....   a good lawyer can easily argue that and reasonable doubt becomes a huge in all capital letter neon sign.

As I originally noted:  "BUT, having said that, I have no idea what transpired before that,"

I guess I can now say as Paul Harvey noted....   And now you (I) know the rest of the story.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
4.1.2  Transyferous Rex  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein,

What's missing is the intent to commit a felony or theft within the dwelling. If the McMichaels see him running out of the house, carrying a nail gun, building supplies, something else, I think you have a different analysis. There are opinions from Georgia on the issue. Its not enough to assume a crime occurred or is occurring. To make the arrest, you have to have actual knowledge. Walking into a house under construction is not a felony or misdemeanor unless you enter without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft. I'll assume he wasn't authorized to be in the house. I've heard nothing indicating that the McMichaels had reason to know that Arbery intended to commit a felony or that he intended to or was in there thieving. 

Who owns the truck that is in the driveway? We've all seen houses under construction. If there is a truck in the driveway, you might reasonably assume that someone is in there working. Since we are all making assumptions about why Arbery was in the house (you have to since he is dead, and left the house empty handed), it is also fair to assume that he was passing by, saw the house under construction, saw the truck, and went in to see about a job. 

At around the 8:20 mark, this guy says all he needs to say..."potentially burglarizing." Sorry, you may be able to carry in Georgia, but you cannot commit assault with a deadly weapon, which is what they were doing, based on an assumption of crime. Arbery did enter, but you have to assume intent to commit a felony or theft, because he did not commit a felony or theft, based on what I have seen. If that is the case, then the McMichaels are the ones committing the felony, and can't hide behind a claim of self defense. 

A good defense may get them off, but I'm not seeing any justification. 

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
4.1.3  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Transyferous Rex @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

Agreed. I still think the charges will be dropped to manslaughter though... sadly.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
4.1.4  Transyferous Rex  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

We will see. DA needs to go after what he thinks he can get. I heard felony murder thrown around the other day on the news. I've been thinking that this entire time. If they were not authorized in their arrest attempt, then they are the ones committing the felony of assault with a deadly weapon...and someone died during the commission of that felony. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Transyferous Rex @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Since we are all making assumptions about why Arbery was in the house (you have to since he is dead, and left the house empty handed), it is also fair to assume that he was passing by, saw the house under construction, saw the truck, and went in to see about a job.

The fact is that this guy could have just robbed a bank, it still didn't justify some confederate posse to gun him down while he ran away unarmed.

I have walked up driveways of new construction in my town while out on walks, and I've seen numerous other people do the same. Many people in a small community are curious as to what kind of home is being built or what kind of design is going in on the corner that's been empty for decades. But regardless of why someone might look around a construction site, it never gives anyone the right to chase an unarmed person down with a truck and shotgun and take their life, ever if you see your own property in a thief's hands. Intelligent Americans call the police, dumb fuck bigots illegally take the law into their own hands and should face the consequences. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

 
 
 
Dragon
4.1.6  Dragon  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

I live in a older neighborhood and do a lot of walking, seems everybody does especially now-a-days since gyms were closed. When there is a home being renovated or built it is always a topic of conversation and sometimes I and others have gone up the driveway to see what was happening, looked in windows, etc., talked to whomever was there, if someone was, about what was going on. No one has ever challenged us or called the police. I am white. My state does not allow guns in cars unless locked away unloaded and does not allow open carry. 

I too will wait until a verdict, but can't help believing nothing we have seen or know of at this point justified a man being killed.

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  Dragon @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
I too will wait until a verdict, but can't help believing nothing we have seen or know of at this point justified a man being killed.

Exactly how i feel about it.

 
 
 
loki12
4.1.8  loki12  replied to  Dragon @4.1.6    2 weeks ago
I too will wait until a verdict, but can't help believing nothing we have seen or know of at this point justified a man being killed.

Normally i would advocate for the death penalty for these douchebags, But i'm thinking in the current climate, life in prison would be a much more painful existence, and I'm good with that.  no segregation, these two belong in general population. If not, then maybe a work release at a Wendy's in Atlanta? after they notify the surrounding neighborhood of course. : )

 
 
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