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E.U. coronavirus safe list: This is why the U.S. was nowhere near making the cut

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  4 years ago  •  21 comments

By:   Alexander Smith

E.U. coronavirus safe list: This is why the U.S. was nowhere near making the cut
The E.U. chose 15 countries where COVID-19 is under control enough to accept nonessential travel from those places. This is why the U.S. isn't among them.

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LONDON — People in Algeria, Rwanda, Uruguay, China and Canada are now free to travel to parts of Europe on vacation. Travelers from the United States aren't.

At first glance, it seems like the European Union has chosen a motley crew of 15 countries whose residents are now officially allowed nonessential travel into its member nations, which has been restricted since the middle of March.

In fact, the Europeans say, the exclusive club was devised using strict epidemiological criteria.

That's why the U.S. — which has the most coronavirus cases and deaths in the world — was nowhere near making the cut, according to three E.U. diplomats involved in the negotiations, who spoke anonymously because they weren't authorized to talk publicly about them.

"What do you think?" one of them deadpanned when asked whether Washington had been close to meeting the threshold.

"The U.S. was never going to make it," another said. "Just look at their coronavirus situation."

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So it's no surprise that the list includes countries lauded around the world for successfully tackling COVID-19, including New Zealand, Australia, South Korea, Thailand and Japan.

In Canada, where more than 8,600 coronavirus deaths have been recorded, newly reported cases are decreasing and are broadly the same as the European average, so it, too, made the list.

The club also features countries less renowned for their pandemic responses: Tunisia, Uruguay, Serbia, Montenegro, Morocco, Rwanda, Algeria and Georgia, which borders Russia and Turkey. But all of them satisfied the E.U.'s criteria.

China, where the outbreak is believed to have started, says it has had fewer than 400 cases in the past two weeks. It is the last country on the list, on the condition that it allows entry to E.U. citizens in return.

A staff member checking the oral health of a child before she enters a kindergarten in Yongzhou, China.AFP - Getty Images file

A stark omission — from a political and economic perspective, at least — is the U.S.

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Effectively blackballing the U.S. will deny European cities the chance to cash in on hordes of lucrative American tourists, and it risks a verbal clash between European governments and President Donald Trump.

During almost a month of talks, there was little, if any, suggestion that the U.S. might be included, the three E.U. diplomats said.

If that is disappointing for American vacationers, it may be crushing for the European tourist sector.

"In 2019, for instance, we saw around 18 million U.S. visitors coming into Europe, and they spent roughly 70 billion euros," or about $78 billion, said Tom Jenkins, CEO of the European Tourism Association, a trade body based in London.

While Americans don't tend to flock to Europe's Mediterranean coastline in great numbers, Jenkins said, they do dominate tourism for cities like Paris and Milan — all of which will feel more pain following Tuesday's decision.

The Europeans said those considerations never entered into their discussions.

A barber in Toronto cut a customer's hair after coronavirus restrictions began to be lifted last month.Carlos Osorio / Reuters

"If we started talking about making exceptions for countries that provide a lot of tourism, even if they have a lot of coronavirus cases, that would not be the right approach," an E.U. diplomat said.

Asked about reports last week that the U.S. would likely be excluded from the final list, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said at a briefing that the U.S. had been working with its "friends in Europe and the E.U. proper to determine how it is we can best safely reopen international travel."

While he said it was "very important" for the American and European economies to reconnect, he didn't want to reopen in a way "that jeopardizes the United States," and "we don't want to cause problems for anywhere else."

None of the European negotiators brought to the table specific countries they wanted to include. Rather, they outlined the criteria first before seeing which countries fit them, the diplomats said.

The first bar countries had to pass was having the same rate of new coronavirus cases or lower as the European average, which stands at roughly 15 per 100,000 people over the past 14 days.

By contrast, the U.S. had around 145 cases per 100,000 people during that time, according to E.U. data — overshooting the threshold almost 10 times.

The boardwalk at Ocean City, Md., is crowded with visitors on Memorial Day weekend after coronavirus restrictions were relaxed.Kevin Lamarque / Reuters file

As many as 54 countries passed the initial hurdle, according to a draft list seen by NBC News during the negotiations last week.

That was whittled down after the Europeans looked at whether each country's infection rate was increasing or decreasing and how reliable its government was on other issues, such as accurate reporting, testing, surveillance and social distancing.

For example, the central Asian country of Tajikistan says that its coronavirus infection rate is decreasing and that it's below the European average. So it made the initial list of 54 countries, along with India, Turkey, Cuba, Venezuela and dozens of others.

But according to the list, Tajikistan and many other countries have relatively poor IHR scores, relating to the International Health Regulations set out by the World Health Organization, which looks at a host of other factors related to a country's health care system.

When all of those criteria were aligned, the final list of 15 was left standing, finally agreed to by E.U. ambassadors late Friday and confirmed and unveiled Tuesday.

An E.U. spokesperson declined to comment on why the extra criteria of reciprocity had been applied to China. But two E.U. diplomats involved in the negotiations said the extra layer was included because of continued skepticism among some European countries about the hard-to-verify accuracy of China's coronavirus data.

The final list means any non-E.U. citizen living in a country that isn't on the list won't be allowed in until the situation where they live changes. Exceptions include health care workers, diplomats, military personnel and people with family matters that they can prove are urgent.

But that's not the end of it.

Already, cracks in European unity are beginning to show, with Italy, one of the countries worst hit by the coronavirus, saying within hours of the announcement that it would opt out of the nonbinding list. Only members of the 26-member Schengen Area — which allows passport-free travel within Europe — will be allowed in, it said.

"The global situation remains very complex," Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza said. "We must prevent the sacrifices made by Italians in recent months being in vain."

alex-smith-circle-byline-template_458d4a0f3cae7e4cabefc94aea36b461.focal-100x100.jpg Alexander Smith

Alexander Smith is a senior reporter for NBC News Digital based in London.

Mo Abbas contributed.


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Krishna
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1  Krishna    4 years ago

If that is disappointing for American vacationers, it may be crushing for the European tourist sector.

"In 2019, for instance, we saw around 18 million U.S. visitors coming into Europe, and they spent roughly 70 billion euros," or about $78 billion, said Tom Jenkins, CEO of the European Tourism Association, a trade body based in London.

While Americans don't tend to flock to Europe's Mediterranean coastline in great numbers, Jenkins said, they do dominate tourism for cities like Paris and Milan — all of which will feel more pain following Tuesday's decision.

The Europeans said those considerations never entered into their discussions.

If we started talking about making exceptions for countries that provide a lot of tourism, even if they have a lot of coronavirus cases, that would not be the right approach," an E.U. diplomat said.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2  Krishna    4 years ago

The first bar countries had to pass was having the same rate of new coronavirus cases or lower as the European average, which stands at roughly 15 per 100,000 people over the past 14 days.

By contrast, the U.S. had around 145 cases per 100,000 people during that time, according to E.U. data — overshooting the threshold almost 10 times.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2    4 years ago

By contrast, the U.S. had around 145 cases per 100,000 people during that time, according to E.U. data — overshooting the threshold almost 10 times.

The U.S. now has more total cases than any other country in the world-- more by far. And this is really shocking:

U.S. Sets Record For New Coronavirus Cases, Surpassing 55,000 New Cases In A Single Day!!!

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.1.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Krishna @2.1    4 years ago
The U.S. now has more total cases than any other country in the world-- more by far. And this is really shocking:

this virus moves fast,,,, including the bs from so-called experts.


BY INCLUDING BOTH ACTIVE CASES WITH CASES OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD THE CHINA CORONAVIRUS IN THE PAST, THE CDC IS GROSSLY OVERSTATING THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE CASES IN THE US.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Krishna @2.1    4 years ago

I have so much conflicting testimony and propaganda about this virus, I simply don't pay attention to it anymore.

How many cases and deaths of the "seasonal flu" have been reported this year...

or have they been lumped into the corona virus figures?

The newer cases appear to be younger people with less severe symptoms.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    4 years ago

cool. toss the face mask ignore social distancing and seek out massive crowds down the hill. toodle-loo ...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    4 years ago

The newer cases appear to be younger people with less severe symptoms.

Well-- that's certainly a relief! (I was worried about the rapid spike in new cases every day-- but since you mentioned that so many new cases  are amongst younger people-- there's no need to worry. jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

(And "many people" are saying that, as "everyone knows ", younger people with "less severe symptoms" can't spread the disease to older folks ...even if they already have conditions such as obesity, Disbetes, etc!)

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    4 years ago

Good news.  How can we make this permanent?

If we can convince those affluent American tourists to spend their money in the United States then, perhaps, something meaningful might have been accomplished.  But we all know that's not going to be allowed to happen.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    4 years ago

But we all know that's not going to be allowed to happen.

Agreed!

In fact, not only do "we all" know, but  "many people" are saying that with trump in the White House and Republicans controlling the Senate-- that never will-- therefore the U.S. economy sucks-- and will continue to suck for a long, long time.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.1    4 years ago
Agreed! In fact, not only do "we all" know, but  "many people" are saying that with trump in the White House and Republicans controlling the Senate-- that never will-- therefore the U.S. economy sucks-- and will continue to suck for a long, long time.

So, kick the Republicans out.  But simply removing Republicans from government won't accomplish anything.

Democrats will need to stand up and take responsibility.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
6  It Is ME    4 years ago

"That's why the U.S. — which has the most coronavirus cases and deaths in the world — was nowhere near making the cut."

Kids these days. Give 'em an inch.... they'll take a Mile !

Time to put them in Jail ?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
6.1  Krishna  replied to  It Is ME @6    4 years ago
Time to put them in Jail ?

Heck-- why stop with jail. After all, as "everyone knows"-- they could escape!

And "people are saying": Why not do what they do in Russia-- just murder them! (Aren't choke-holds  still legal in Russia?)

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Krishna @6.1    4 years ago
Heck-- why stop with jail. After all, as "everyone knows"-- they could escape!

Or .... they could get the "Epstein Treatment". Don't need "Russians" for that.  jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
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7  Krishna    4 years ago
Time to put them in Jail ?

Heck-- why stop with jail. After all, as "everyone knows"-- they could escape!

And "people are saying": Why not do what they do in Russia-- just murder them! (Aren't choke-holds  still legal in Russia?)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

I would say that those who made the decision for the EU considered the health and lives of its population more important than the almighty dollar - very different decision than America has made. 

 
 

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