How Do You Usually Access NT?
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By: perrie-halpern • 4 years ago • 112 comments
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ham radio.
LOL
I use mental telepathy but as I get older the signal is fading a bit
John, does it come with eggs and hash browns??????
Good one.
With trepidation.
Me, too, JohnRussell, I have a Ham and it talks to me! For an NYC minute, I thought I was nuts. Now, I know it is you.
Carrier Pigeon.
So are dinosaurs next on the list of animals you are going to resurrect. I'm impressed.
Perrie, you're thinking of Passenger Pigeons, which are extinct. Plenty of carrier pigeons around.
Ah yes, you are right TTGA.
Hey, watch that! - Jonathan Livingston Pigeon-Poo, "Doctored"
Carrier Pigeon fought along with soldiers in both WWI and WWII. They are heroes. Isn't it enough that you Right Wingers's POS in the White House denigrate Veterans, now, you have to do the same with Carrier Pigeon?
Have you no decency?
I am asking, because I don't, either, and I thought maybe, just maybe, we could "hook-up."
Smoke Signals.
Do you have a lot of wood or do you have it delivered?
I have it delivered.
Is that the special deal from Logs R Us??
Ha!!!!!
Isn't that the funniest? So great.
Isn't that the funniest? So great.
Who asked, you, Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom? Of all people, you should know better. I don't, but, you should. Shame, Shame, Shame!
That is hilarious.
That is hilarious!
Normally by my laptop using Chrome. I have on a rare occasion used my iPhone (also using Chrome), but it doesn't work as well for me to post.
Can you explain why it doesn't work well for you and what you would like to changed to make it easier to use?
For some time it just wouldn't work. I don't think it was setup before for dynamic html so the formatting was off and I had issues getting logged in. Now as I'm thinking about it and looking at it - it looks much better and probably usable. But because I'm normally always here during the day while I'm I'm on my laptop though...
That was very helpful info. Thanks!
GRAMMATICAL MISTAKE! That is ONE ticket for you, Perrie!
."..what you would like to changed to make it easier to use?"
I too will use my IPhone from time to time, but using the Safari web browser. The user interface was recently (maybe 2-3 months ago?) improved tremendously and now it is fairly easy to reply to comments and post from the phone. If I have links to add though, that gets a bit tricky, but not impossible. It is MUCH better than it was. However, it won't stay logged in so I have to sign in again each time.
Still I prefer working from my laptop, using Chrome.
Good info there Freewill. Thanks.
primary - home wifi
secondary - cell wifi hotspot
primary - laptop
secondary - tablet/cell
Wow, I love you defaults! Also a tablet user!
Windows or Android. I've just switched from Firefox to Opera on both OSs. Two speed-dial icons, to the FP and to Be Reasonable! (Along with sites like Amazon, ... )
My Windows machine is a small-form-factor Ryzen 5 that I assembled last month. My tablet is a Huawei. So is my phone.
I have lots of subscriptions, via RSS and email, whose headlines I skim all day, reading maybe 25-30 in detail. The next morning, I post the articles I found most interesting. That happens on the Windows machine, where it's easier to work with multiple windows. In the evening, the tablet competes with the TV, NT being among the sites I spend the most time on.
I rarely consult NT on my phone.
OK, so you are one of our tablet users. Good to know.
Yes. Not much for seeding - Android doesn't handle multiple windows very well. Seeding requires:
- the Original Article (usually a browser tab),
- more browser tabs, for searching whatever,
- an image editor,
- a text editor (for my store of gifs and html).
OTOH, for browsing from my recliner, in front of the TV.... a tablet is a "comfortable" solution.
5 year old Dell PC w/multiple monitors and almost always on FireFox
NT is on two laptops which I rarely use because they are slow, smaller screens and sometimes no functionality at all on Chrome.
Edge is not much better.
Phone? What are you kidding? We don't do internet on the phone.
Huawei updated last year's P30Pro (which is still eligible for Google updates) and dropped the price to €700. Its camera is among the best.
The screen is 6.5" OLED, LOTS of pixels. So it's a tad bigger than a Kindle, and perfectly apt as an e-reader. It's not big enough for web browsing to be comfortable, but it's not horrible, either.
It's dual-SIM, which is nice for people who live on two continents. That means there's no SD card, but there's 128 Go intern, which should be enough.
Why firefox?
Between moderating and advertising the others were more glitchy, but FF has developed some tics also
and whenever I get "Bad Post" or error communicating with the server, I just reset FF.
OK Now I understand.
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
That might be a solution for me
Osmosis.
Typically a series of keystrokes and the click of a bookmark in my web browser. It's bordering on magic.
I have a bot working on a back door, but I will stop short of a full-on DNS attack. Don't tell TiG I said that! (-:
Shooooosh... it will remain our secret!
ESP
Eastern State Penitentiary?
Extra Sensory Perception.
I knew you were going to say that...
Hilarious exchange!
Desktop IMac. Sometimes my Iphone but I don't like trying using the phone for NT.
What don't you like about using your Iphone for NT and how could it be better?
It's not NT, it's the smallness of the screen.
I'm with you. I don't do anything on my phone except call and text. An occasional Candy Crush game. I honestly don't know how people can glue themselves to their phones all day
Almost exclusively with my iPhone XS and safari with unlimited data or WiFi.
What would make it easier for you to use your iPhone?
Not sure. It’s reasonably easy to navigate for the most part.
Laptop and phone occasionally.
Harder to do on phone.
What makes it harder to use on the phone?
my fat fingers!!
not a technical issue. just never texted much. so typing is way harder and slower
So, you are above the age of 35, LOL.
61!!
But I have had the fat fingers forever!
A condition known as "hot dog fingers".
Yes... tiny hands and fingers have advantages when it comes to cell phones and working on modern cars.
I'm over 35, but I have teenagers that text me like crazy, so I've gotten quite good at texting... oh and I got an IPhone 11, which has a much larger screen than the iPhone SE (same size as a 5).
I use my desktop - HP Slimline - Model: s5-1205z
Windows 7
Chrome
I also use it on my HP laptop - z6000
Window 7
Chrome
Good information.
Normally it is good to assume that people will use their mobile devices to stay in touch while going about their daily business. When they have something complex to do, they would go to their desktop (or a pad with today's pads). The smaller the screen size, the less one can do in a single step.
NT on the desktop will thus always have the most functionality. A mobile version of NT should have only the essential functionality that is used most of the time while away from one's desktop. It should allow the mobile user to conveniently do the most common mobile tasks and not be cluttered with functionality that is sporadically used or inappropriate for a small screen.
To wit ...
What is the most critical functionality to put on a mobile version of NT?
No takers?
Okay, if we can only put three major functions on a mobile device (not true, this is hypothetical) which three would you choose?
When you go to NT on your mobile device, which three major functions would you pick?
For example:
I'm using Opera on my (Android) phone to make this Comment.
It’s a big screen... thank goodness... because the keyboard takes the lower third of it... and NT's editing icons take the top third.
Obviously, I cannot refer to the Comment to which I'm Replying, without scrolling, which is a pain.
I'm not sure of any better solution. A smaller keyboard would be hard to use. I'm a pretty heavy user of NT's editing options, so I wouldn't want them reduced.
This is "Opera for Android", the same app as the tablet, but locked in "portrait withmmobile UI" whereas the tablet is locked in "landscape with desktop UI". My three devices sync all their browser data. (There's another Opera, called "Opera Touch" which has a less cluttered interface... but can't sync!)
One annoyance: the "navigation rose" takes up much too much of the screen.
Even with the "mobile UI", Opera gives all of NT's site, in a vertical scroll.
I'll be your huckleberry...
1. Seeding a new article using Fetch
2. Tracker
3. Recent Comments
^^ What he said ^^
Although will be tough to remedy on a small screen.
OK... now I'm using my Windows machine...
Since the "Opera for Android locked in portrait, with Mobile UI" (wow, what a mouthful!) is a pretty good "phone" experience already, perhaps the most useful approach is: "Which pages do we use most?"
For me, that would be:
1 Tracker
2 Tracker / Articles
3 Front Page ("Home") / "Trending" (I don't often use the other sections of the Front Page, but that's just a question of their position in the FP's vertical scroll stack, not of whether or not they should be present.)
1a Speed-dial direct access to Be Reasonable!'s home page, for the "Create New Discussion" button.
(I use the same access when posting to some other Group - "Herding Cats" or "Discovery".)
2a "Create Article As A Group Discussion" text-entry form
Tracker, recent comments, recent articles, if I were limited to 3.
I'm going to make it a far simpler answer...
I would want to read replies / comments and be able to read articles. From my phone... I doubt I would want to publish anything. However, I might want to be able to upload and post pictures I've got on my phone. Oh... I would like to be able to get to my private notes too. I'm pretty simple really.
If I wanted to get really fancy, I could mirror my phone to my TV and plug my keyboard into my TV.
All of the above except Group list, members list, bookmarks list, contributors, and Collection of your articles list
The three I would choose:
Desktop usually. Phone sometimes during the day.
What is the most critical functionality to put on a mobile version of NT?
I really don't have much trouble using NT on my phone. I'd say the only thing that's tough to do is publish, due to the difficulty of copying and pasting on my phone. I'm not sure there's a way around that.
Very little since it is Apple that controls that behavior. I personally hate the way iOS select/copy/paste works on the iPhone.
I figured as much. My phone is an Android, but I think the C&P works about the same either way. Tough to work around the OS.
By computer most of the time because it doesn't display properly on my Android smart phone. I use Firefox as a browser 99.99% of the time because of less tracking than Chrome or Bing. I would use my phone more if it worked right and therefore be able to spend more time here because I have to be at home with downtime to play on my laptop to view and use the site properly. An app would be GREAT!
CK,
What would make it easier for you, on your phone? What is hard for you to do?
Hmmm. Thought I had put mine on here. Oh well. Strictly on a PC. Windows 10 and Firefox. My phone is still a flip phone. May seem old fashioned but that phone has been run over by a pick up truck and still functions perfectly. I don't think too many smart phones can do that.
No, you wrote your comment in the area under the actual poll.
Ahhh, found it there. Flip phone thing is still true but I did find out the hard way that they are not waterproof. Fell out of a boat about ten years ago. Cost me fifty bucks to replace it at the Verizon store.
There are now several browsers that have VPNs built-in. This allows anonymous browsing, using a spoofed address.
Lots of sites are geo-locked. For example, from France many US sites are inaccessible. With a VPN spoofing a US address, pas de problème.
Hi, I am reviving this old article to tell everyone about some new changes to the mobile version of NT.
If you would like to try it, please contact me on how to do this. It is still in beta.
Basically the Beta site shows a new mobile version of NT. The non-mobile version can still be accessed by going into your setting and deselecting use of the mobile version.
The mobile version does not have all the features of the full site but it has the vast majority of them. The key is that the presentation has been customized to the tiny screens of mobile devices.