Are you panicking about the presidential race? If so, time to chill the f' out
Category: News & Politics
Via: john-russell • 4 years ago • 26 commentsBy: markos (Daily Kos)
Once upon a time, some outlier poll came out saying that the presidential race had narrowed from a big Joe Biden lead to a slightly less big Joe Biden lead. It came after the Republican convention’s lie-fest, so people are particularly raw. And even though other polls showed no difference , and the polling aggregate hasn’t moved, why consider such matters when there’s a good panic to be had, right?
It’s bad enough that people are freaking out without any logical reason to do so, but it’s making everyone dispense advice to the Biden campaign about what they should really be doing to not lose, even though nothing suggests they’re losing. (Not in our reality, anyway. Can’t speak to Trump’s …)
One of my favorites is the demand that Biden head over to Kenosha, Wisconsin, and … do something. People think he’s Barack Obama, and not the guy who self-admits to being a “gaffe machine.” Really, the pandemic has allowed Biden and his campaign to lay low, mitigating his greatest weakness as a candidate. Why would people want him to burst out, and do so on the most fraught of issues, race?
That said, if the campaign thinks it’s a good move, then great! It’s just that people are demanding he do things based on their own wishes and desires as opposed to that one singular question that needs to drive Biden’s campaign: What will improve his chance of victory?
And the reality is this: Biden has the votes he needs. He just needs to not fuck it up. And while someone will bust out with the “prevent defense” analogy—an obnoxious and oftentimes disastrous strategy in American football to play conservatively in order to protect a late lead—this isn’t the Super Bowl we’re playing. This is an election, and here are the facts:
Biden is leading in all the polls
Just look at The Economist ’s plot graph of the presidential polls:
The aggregate gives Biden a 9 -point lead , and suggests what we ourselves are seeing in all our data at Civiqs—public opinion doesn’t change much. And this year? Who doesn’t have an opinion about Trump? You either love the guy or you’re counting down the seconds before you can vote against him.
That’s a stable race. And if Biden was winning before the conventions, he’s winning after them.
Of course, this isn’t a national election in the rational democratic sense, and we’ll talk more about that in a bit. But states don’t move independently of the national trends. We wouldn’t see Trump make (major) gains in Wisconsin while the national numbers stayed flat. A stable race is good news.
Democrats are winning down-ballot races
There’s another Democratic wave brewing this year , one that threatens to be even bigger than that of 2018. You may be thinking, “So what? I’m worried about Trump !” But here’s the thing: In our intensely polarized society, we are seeing fewer and fewer ticket splitters. There is strong correlation between the numbers we see at the level of the presidential race and the races down below. So if Biden is doing well in Montana and Alaska , it so happens that our Senate candidates in those states are also doing well.
So here’s where it gets interesting. Democrats have been releasing a spate of polling showing great numbers for candidates at the congressional and state legislative levels. And we’ve seen two things, uniformly: Biden is outperforming Hillary Clinton’s 2016 numbers in all of those districts; and Republicans, the rare times they do release polling numbers, do not include presidential numbers .
So here, let me show you some concrete examples.
#HD113 internal from earlier this month via Dem incumbent @RhettaForHD113 : Bowers (D-inc.) 53 Douglas (R) 36 Biden +18 after Clinton +2 in 2016 (EMC Research; July 29-Aug. 2; 405 LVs; landlines/cells; +/-4.9%) https://t.co/j4UHdzngDa #txlege
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) August 17, 2020
This is a suburban Texas House district outside Dallas. Clinton winning it was a big deal in 2016 in what was once solid Republican territory. Biden leading it by 18 is … I don’t know how to even put it into words. I’m doing the “mind blown” pantomime.
A new DCCC poll (Aug. 5-9; 500 LVs; +/-4.4%) in #OK05 shows Rep. Kendra. Horn leading Stephanie Bice, 51%-46%. The same poll found President Trump leading Joe Biden, 48%-47% in the district.
— Kirk A. Bado (@kirk_bado) August 26, 2020
Oklahoma’s 5th congressional district is an urban district, but Oklahoma City is a rare American city long dominated by Republicans, and it was a big deal when Rep. Kendra Horn won it in 2018. The incumbent she narrowly defeated had won in 2016 by a 57-37 margin. It’ll be a tough hold this year.
Now you see those presidential numbers, with Trump leading 48-47? Guess what it was in 2016.
53-40 Trump .
This is fun, right? Let’s do one more.
End Citizen’s United polled Georgia’s 6th congressional district . This is the famous suburban Atlanta seat where Democrat Jon Ossoff made a splash in 2017, almost winning this ancestrally Republican seat. (Ossoff is now our Senate nominee in one of Georgia’s two Senate seats contested this year.) The seat was picked up by the amazing Lucy McBath in 2018 by just 1%. This new poll has McBath leading 50-47 in a rematch against that same 2018 opponent, which would be a veritable landslide in comparison. But they also had presidential numbers: Biden leading 52-45.
So how did Trump do in this rapidly shifting suburban seat in 2016? He won it 48.3 to 46.8. So we’re looking at an eight- to nine-point shift from 2016!
And those aren’t cherrypicked races. They are literally the first three I happened to find as I searched for examples. And I promise you, every down-ballot poll with presidential numbers looks like this.
So it’s one thing to wonder whether a handful of statewide polls are accurate, especially given the lingering pain from 2016. But the trend is unequivocal—wherever there are educated voters, the numbers are trending in the Democrats’ direction.
Biden is winning the battleground states
Biden is winning Arizona , Florida , Michigan , North Carolina , Pennsylvania , and Wisconsin . He’s tied or slightly ahead in other places like Georgia and Iowa, but that actually doesn’t matter for Electoral College purposes. There are enough states here for Biden to comfortably get across the line.
In fact, all Biden has to do is flip Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin to win. And the polling composite margins in those states?
Michigan: 53.4-46.6
Pennsylvania: 53-47
Wisconsin: 53.2-46.8
Those are some pretty deep holes Trump needs to climb out of, and in all three of these cases, Biden is well above 50%. And it’s hard to move upward when so many people, well … this:
Donald Trump is unpopular
We’ve found strong correlation in our Civiqs polling between Trump’s job approval numbers and his share of the general election head-to-head versus Biden. To summarize, whatever Trump’s approval number is, add one to two points to get his share of the vote against Biden. Now look at Trump’s national approval ratings:
This is Trump’s “approve” number in both the key and reach battleground states, ranked by approval rating:
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Alaska and Montana aren’t typos—they’re legit competitive. Texas and South Carolina aren’t quite there yet, but they really want to be. There are a lot of states suddenly in play, or threatening to be in play, and they are all in Trump territory.
Republicans thought they would compete in Minnesota, Nevada, and New Mexico, but you don’t hear much about that anymore, and Trump’s approval ratings are a big reason why—40%, 42%, and 36% in those three states respectively.
Joe Biden has locked down his base
Biden emerged from the primaries with older Democrats and Black voters firmly in his camp, with weaknesses among Latinos and young voters. Now, while young voters are still his weakest age demographic, the trends are looking the way you want them to look:
His 63-24 approval rating among young Democrats is a dramatic turnaround from the 42-41 ratings he had around the New Hampshire primary.
Among Latino Democrats, Biden is now at 74-16—a nice improvement over the 62-25 he had during primary season. Among all Democrats, his 81-11 approval rating isn’t as gaudy good as Trump’s 89-8 among Republicans , but the trend is still upward. And , that means Biden has more upside still among the lowest-hanging fruit (liberals) than Trump has with his maxed-out base.
Conclusion
None of this means we take our feet off the pedal, of course. But really, is anyone going to do that anyway? We didn’t in 2018, despite all the great signs of impending victory. Heck, the sweet taste of big success is a motivator. So none of that silly “act like we’re 10 points down!” crap. That shit demotivates. No one likes to be losing. That’s why Republicans create an alternate reality where all news is fake and the polls are fake and all bad news is fake. Because if they looked at reality and saw how f’d they were, they’d call it a day and head home to do whatever it is conservatives do. (Apparently, that includes shrugging at hundreds of thousands of dead as acceptable, watching NBA and NASCAR events that they’re pretending to boycott, and becoming adept at the ways of the dark web, because where else are you going to get your Q news that the deep state and swamp and fake news are trying to hide from you? Oh yeah, I forgot: Facebook.)
Anyway, don’t panic because things are going well. And don’t panic that we know that things are going well. No one is breathing easy. It’s all shaping up to be a great election, and our participation will decide just how big an anvil we’ll throw to drowning Republicans.
The harder we work, the bigger the anvil. The bigger the dagger to Trump’s ego. The bigger the Senate majorities, and with them, statehood for Washington, D.C. and, if they want it, for Puerto Rico. The bigger the House majority. The bigger the gains at state legislatures, which means better policy at the state level, and a greater say in the redistricting process.
See? All good reasons to work hard.
panic? why?
this is 2016 all over again.
biden will have the same result hillary did
On what do you base your conclusion?
too many things combined to discuss online... I simply dont have the time.
but in regards to the polls saying trump will not win?
the silent majority rules so, unless pollsters have changed the methods they used polling 2016 they are just replicating the same mistakes they made in 2016 - it is called doubling down on stupid. have the pollsters figured out that silent majority yet? I think not.
me personally? I'm not silent. I told them id vote for hillary and 2 days ago said I would vote for joe... LOL
I see. How persuasive.
So you hold that the polls do not matter. Okay, accepted. Now, how do you know the silent majority you mention will vote the same way with Biden as they did with Hillary? Feelings? Wishes?
that is a really good question, but that is "need to know info"
I don't have the time or patience to type it all out and you don't need to know.
take everything I said with a grain of salt.... won't bother me one bit.
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Question tacitly answered: you have nothing but wishful thinking to offer.
yeah, I heard all the same bs in 2016 when I said trump will win.
so, nothing new for me either.
c-ya
Pathetic.
Bot? Any unity to share?
don't put yourself down like that... it is not healthy
You could convince a 4-year old with that one.
I see this as your REAL answer.
yeah, I have this thing called a life.... imagine that.
I spend less than 15 minutes a day on this site.
I think the gop should probably panic...
Trump is already in full on desperation mode.
Of course. Otherwise there would be no purpose in his trying so hard to shift everyone's attention to China.
But Russia!
Not ready to panic at all...
Friday, September 04, 2020
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_sep04
Since I contact the Biden team "a lot," perhaps someone else (you?) can go to the official Biden Campaign page and fire off an email. Let the Biden Team become aware (if not already) that Donald Trump is about to kick it into high gear. That is, he is about to ignore everything negative Joe and Kamala (not give it air) says about him while doing his schtick to tear one or both of them down. That is, "shouting from the rooftops" Donald is up!
AKA. "Donald the Mic," has got his groove back. He will shout into a perfectly good microphone that amplifies enough without the added effort, that Joe is weak and can't save the women and children in the quiet hallowed suburbs of America. (Watch out, Joe and Kamala!)
In addition, tell Joe's team. Donald is a "jet-setter." He loves re-packaging himself like something new breezing into town from coast to coast. Of course, folks like 'items' when they present as packaged 'delivery.' Makes 'em feel special that someone took the time and effort out.
Weave and bob. Kamala and Joe! . . . . Please somebody go share this one with Joe!
I was okay until the stunt Pelosi pulled.
Stunt?