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A Chinese virologist claimed the coronavirus was 'intentionally' released. Turns out, she works for a group led by Steve Bannon.

  

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Via:  jbb  •  4 years ago  •  21 comments

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A Chinese virologist claimed the coronavirus was 'intentionally' released. Turns out, she works for a group led by Steve Bannon.
A strange paper claims China engineered and released the coronavirus. Its authors work for a group once led by the former Trump strategist Steve Bannon.

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awoodward@businessinsider.com (Aylin Woodward)September 17, 2020, 11:02 AM 

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  • A group of Chinese virologists released a strange new paper on Monday that claims the new coronavirus was engineered in a Chinese lab.

  • One of the virologists, Li-Meng Yan, told the Fox News host Tucker Carlson it was a "man-made virus" that the Chinese government released "intentionally."

  • Yan and her coauthors work for groups cofounded by the former Trump strategist Steve Bannon. He directed the groups before his arrest in August.

  • Some members of the Trump administration have pushed a fringe theory that the virus accidentally leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China, but there's no evidence of this.

AdA strange new paper claiming the coronavirus was a "laboratory product" quietly made its way into a repository of preliminary research on Monday.

"The laboratory creation of this coronavirus is convenient and can be accomplished in approximately six months," the paper's authors, four Chinese virologists who fled to the US earlier this year, wrote.

Li-Meng Yan, the lead author, went a step further in a Tuesday interview with the Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

She told Carlson that her government had "intentionally" released the "man-made virus" — comments that echoed a fringe conspiracy theory that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and President Donald Trump alluded to in May.

—Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) September 16, 2020

But a closer look at Yan and her coauthors' work shows they're affiliated with a pair of nonprofits based in New York City, the Rule of Law Society and the Rule of Law Foundation, that were led by the former Trump strategist Steve Bannon before his arrest in August.

Neither organization has any history of publishing scientific or medical research, and the new paper has not been peer-reviewed by other scientists.

Most experts think the coronavirus originated in bats before jumping to people; one study found that it shared 96% of its genetic code with coronaviruses circulating in Chinese bat populations.

Yan's group, however, suggested that people made the virus using existing bat coronaviruses as "a backbone and/or template."

Bannon cofounded both groups with an exiled Chinese billionaire


Bannon was arrested in August on charges that he defrauded donors who gave money to the "We Build The Wall" campaign. In January 2019, helped found both Rule of Law groups with an exiled Chinese billionaire, Guo Wengui.

J. Scott Applewhite/AP

Guo also founded the site G News, which has published multiple (debunked) stories claiming the coronavirus originated in a Chinese lab and was purposefully spread by the military.

Bannon got $1 million in 2018 for a year's worth of "strategic consulting services" involving G News, Axios reported.

Guo fled China for New York in 2014 after the Chinese Communist Party accused him of bribery and fraud. He had previously worked with Bannon to accuse CCP officials of corruption.

Yan, formerly a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Hong Kong, told Fox News in July that she was one of the first researchers to study the new coronavirus. But Yan left the university — and China — in April, because she began to worry for her safety after suggesting the CCP and the World Health Organization knew about the virus' community spread before December, she said.

"I know how they treat whistleblowers," she told Fox News.

In her interview with Carlson on Tuesday, Yan said she had evidence that showed how China engineered the virus, adding, "I am the target that Chinese Communist Party wants disappeared."

The University of Hong Kong said in a press release in July that Yan "never conducted any research on human-to-human transmission" of the coronavirus before she left and that her view "has no scientific basis but resembles hearsay."

'Poppycock dressed up' as science


CDC

Other experts were quick to speak out against the claims in Yan's paper.

Carl Bergstrom, a University of Washington biologist who first noticed the paper's connection to Bannon, called the research "bizarre and unfounded."

There's no evidence supporting the theory that the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, was genetically engineered. A March study concluded based on genetic analysis that the coronavirus wasn't a hodgepodge of existing coronaviruses, as Yan and other supporters of the theory have suggested.

Those researchers wrote that their work indicated that it "is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus," adding that "the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone."

On Tuesday, the lead author of that study, Kristian Andersen, said Yan's group had cherry-picked data in support of their conclusion, adding that it was "poppycock dressed up as 'science.'"

—Kristian G. Andersen (@K_G_Andersen) September 16, 2020

Twitter, which has a strict policy on tweets containing disputed claims about COVID-19, suspended Yan's account this week.

The virus probably didn't leak from a lab either


We still don't know how the coronavirus pandemic started, or where — and that uncertainty creates fertile territory for unsubstantiated theories.

Early on, many people thought an intermediary animal species first passed the coronavirus from bats to people in a wet market in the city of Wuhan, China, in December. But it turned out that coronavirus infections were spreading in the city weeks before the cluster of cases linked to the market arose. That means the market probably facilitated a superspreader event but wasn't the pandemic's origin site.

Another theory suggested that the coronavirus had animal origins but that a sample of it stored at the Wuhan Institute of Virology accidentally leaked.

Hector Retamal/AFP via Getty

Researchers at that institute do study infectious diseases, including coronaviruses, which led to scrutiny from members of the Trump administration earlier this year.

There's no evidence, however, that the coronavirus came from a sample stored at that lab.

"It's highly unlikely this was a lab accident," Jonna Mazet, a US epidemiologist who has worked with and trained researchers at the Wuhan institute, previously told Business Insider.

Mazet said she helped the staff there develop and implement a "very stringent safety protocol."

What's more, Shi Zhengli, a virologist at the institute, said none of the coronavirus samples that had been stored there matched the new coronavirus' genome.

"That really took a load off my mind," Shi told Scientific American in April. "I had not slept a wink for days."


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

Crow is being served. Line up for your due portion...

Those who spread this bullshit should be ashamed.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1  cjcold  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

Seems truth and sanity are no longer to be found among the far right. 

After decades of Fox, propaganda and lies are all they have now. 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  cjcold @1.1    4 years ago

I'm not convinced our trolls are even American!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    4 years ago

Russian bots, maybe ? 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

Crow is being served. Line up for your due portion...

Those who spread this bullshit should be ashamed.

Would that be genetically engineered crow?

Politically discrediting the scientist doesn't refute the science.  That might have worked with anthropogenic climate change but won't be as effective when there isn't any scientific information available.  The SARS-Cov-2 virus is novel, new, and never before seen. 

The research does confirm that the SARS-Cov-2 is not a genetically modified organism.  But that does not preclude that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is man-made.  While the ancestral virus may be found in bats (or some other animal host), the SARS-CoV-2 virus has gained functional ability to infect and cause disease in humans.  SARS-CoV-2 is a human virus; not a bat virus. 

As the seeded article points out, a wet market being the original source of the virus is being viewed with increasing skepticism.  The source of the SARS-CoV-2 virus is unknown.  Without knowledge of the source of the virus any declarations concerning origins of the human strain of coronavirus is really just speculation.  Experts are expressing opinion, not facts.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

If you don't mind, jbb, I would like to repost here what I posted on a previous article in which Yan indicated that she had proof of her accusation:

From the very beginning of her story I said she has not shown evidence, so wait to see if it's true or not, because it contradicts what many scientists had already determined.  Then when she said the government released it "ON PURPOSE" to infect their own people and the world, ONLY A FOOL COULD HAVE BELIEVED HER - I said NO LEADER WOULD EVER DO THAT TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE, so she HAD to be lying, and I was put down and criticized by the Trumpsters here.  She followed the typical Trump and his disciples' technique - accuse without proof or evidence, like they have done with TikTok, and WeChat, and the Houston consulate, and Huawei and all the rest of their unfounded accusations in the hope of deflecting from Trump's now PROVEN OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH negligent mishandling of the pandemic.  

Attention Trumpsters:  All that lying and false accusations is not going to get your "chosen one" re-elected. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    4 years ago

I thought you would appreciate this though those most outraged by the story have all gone missing.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @2.1    4 years ago

I guess that if they can ignore the negligent homicide by their POTUS of tens of thousands of American citizens, they can ignore the fact that Yan is a fraud and liar.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.1    4 years ago
I guess that if they can ignore the negligent homicide by their POTUS of tens of thousands of American citizens, they can ignore the fact that Yan is a fraud and liar.

They're not looking for facts, they're just looking for confirmation bias.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    4 years ago

This lie was implausible but they ran with it...

It didn't pass the smell test but they ate it up!

If they had any honor they would disavow it...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    4 years ago
"This lie was implausible but they ran with it...

It didn't pass the smell test but they ate it up!

If they had any honor they would disavow it..."

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cjcold
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2.1.5  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    4 years ago

Honor seems to be in short supply among Trumpsters these days. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.6  seeder  JBB  replied to  cjcold @2.1.5    4 years ago

At long last...they have no honor. No decency...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @2.1.5    4 years ago
"Honor seems to be in short supply among Trumpsters these days."

It's non-existent.  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3  Bob Nelson    4 years ago

Well...  ...   at least we have the satisfaction of knowing that all the xenophobic Trumpist sites that repeated this fake news will now publish retractions.

Right? 

I mean...   it's a monstrous lie. Some people - including some here on NT - repeated it. If those people have even an atom of honor, they must publish a retraction.

...  ...   oh wait...  ... "if they have even an atom of honor"...  .... That ruins it. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    4 years ago

Trumpsters will NEVER admit they were wrong or that they made a mistake or apologize.  Their master has already shown them the way, to do as he does - deflect, point fingers, blame anyone else.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    4 years ago

I'm waiting for retractions. Waiting waiting waiting...

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.2.1  Kavika   replied to  JBB @3.2    4 years ago

Don't hold your breath.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Kavika @3.2.1    4 years ago

I suppose they will all go missing Nov 4th, too!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

Where are all those who were so indignant about this?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JBB @4    4 years ago
Where are all those who were so indignant about this?

Still eating their humble pie...

Nah, who am I kidding, the conspiracy theorist conservative Republicans have no shame, they have no humility, they have no honor, they have no backbone. You'll only hear from them when they sink their rabid teeth into the next unfounded conspiracy theory.

 
 

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