Republican Trust In The Electoral Process Has Cratered , SINCE The Election

  

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By:  john-russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  45 comments

Republican Trust In The Electoral Process Has Cratered , SINCE The Election

Josh Jordan

@NumbersMuncher

This is simply insane. Trust in the electoral process among Republicans has cratered from 68% before the election to 34% now. The reason: Donald Trump can't accept that he lost. This is the damage Trump is causing and almost every elected Republican is helping him do it.

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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

This is one of the reasons why we cannot "reconcile" with the Trump crazies. They don't stop being crazy. 

Today, Mitch McConnell refused to accept the election results, and the two Republican senators from Georgia attacked the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia, and Trump is tweeting unhinged shit that some fear will lead to violence. 

 
 
 
Ender
1.1  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

I read part of McConnell's speech from the senate floor.

He is a piece of shit.

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

“This is one of the reasons why we cannot "reconcile" with the Trump crazies.”

yep, that right there is one of the reasons.

 
 
 
JBB
1.2.1  JBB  replied to  Gazoo @1.2    2 weeks ago

Remember? Elections Have Consequences...

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

Can you give details of the consequences? Or is that a secret?

 
 
 
bbl-1
1.2.3  bbl-1  replied to  Gazoo @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

Its a secret.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @1.2    2 weeks ago

What is real funny is that anyone would buy that "reconcile" crap for two seconds.

All we have to do is look at the posts for the real truth.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.2.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.4    2 weeks ago
What is real funny is that anyone would buy that "reconcile" crap for two seconds.

Right? Why should Democrats "reconcile" when Republicans have been refusing to do the same for years now. The religious right believe their "way" is superior just like many of them wrongly believe their skin color is superior. Because of this they justify any means as long as they get what they see as a "win" for their white Christian patriarchy ideology. Compromising or reconciling with such folk will just keep inching us towards their desired theocracy they believe is prophesied. We need to learn that you can't rationalize with a zealot, they are not concerned with making the world a better place through negotiation and reconciliation, they have just one agenda and that is to force their deeply held religious beliefs on others and move us towards their goal of Armageddon where they believe their almighty God will come and save them while destroying their enemies aka anyone who has disagreed with them. When religious conservative zealots look at their opponents, they don't see another human to listen to and care about, they see an adversary that they believe their God will soon burn and torture to death which is why they see no reason to compromise or reconcile. The sooner the rest of the world understands this about them the better.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.5    2 weeks ago

Man, stop accusing trump supporters of being racists. That is a weak, uninformed argument unworthy of any consideration by thinking adults.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.2.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.6    2 weeks ago
stop accusing trump supporters of being racists

Why? Trump appealed to racists, we saw them come out for him in droves, many of his supporters are open white supremacists. Do you deny this?

He called Mexicans rapists and said they were an "invasion" and promised his fearful base he would "build a wall and make Mexico pay for it".

His racist base cheered.

He called for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States".

His racist base cheered.

Trump referred to Haiti, El Salvador, and an assortment of African nations as “shithole countries".

His racist base cheered.

Trump spent years falsely claiming Obama wasn't born in the United States.

His racist base cheered.

He argued a judge born in the US should recuse himself from a case against Trump because of his "Mexican heritage".

His racist base cheered.

He regularly re-tweeted messages from white supremacist's and Neo-Nazi's.

His racist base cheered.

He called the group of tiki torch wielding white supremacists and neo-Nazi's who were collectively chanting "Jews will not replace us!" "fine people".

His racist base cheered.

He blocked the removal of confederate monuments and blocked the renaming of confederate named military bases and ships.

His racist base cheered.

He repeatedly called a sitting Senator "Pocahontas" offending many native Americans.

His racist base cheered.

He viscously attacked black sports figures and their mothers calling them "sons of bitches" for taking a respectful knee during the anthem in protest.

His racist base cheered.

He told immigrant women of color in Congress to "go back" to their countries of origin because he disagreed with their politics.

His racist base cheered.

He told the white supremacist militia group Proud Boys to "Stand back, stand by."

His racist base cheered.

And recently he suggested that somehow the first black South Asian American woman “doesn’t meet the requirements” to be Vice President or President.

His racist base cheered.

It would seem that some Trump supporters are like those wannabe righteous fellows who claim they only look at Playboy for the articles. Sure, you might be on the Trump train only for his policies, his dismantling of the EPA and political norms, his nominating conservative judges, but the real centerfold of Trumpism is the deep seated white grievance and racist hatred toward the racially and culturally diverse America progressives have been supporting and building upon. So while you can claim you don't look at those sticky pages of Trumps portfolio, we all know its there and why, and plenty of his base are getting off on it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.7    2 weeks ago

I can tell by your post that you are simply a Trump Hater, along with anyone who voted for him.

There is no dealing with folks like you--you are one-track minded and not open to even hearing anything that might dare to infiltrate your bubble.

There is someone here who can really relate to you--ya'll would get along famously!

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.2.9  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.8    2 weeks ago

They always resort to race when they have nothing else. It’s weak, it’s lame.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.2.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.8    2 weeks ago
I can tell by your post that you are simply a Trump Hater

So he didn't do those things and I just made all that up?

you are one-track minded and not open to even hearing anything that might dare to infiltrate your bubble.

I'm perfectly willing to listen to an explanation for all the racist crap Donald has done but I never hear any, I just get deflection and attacked, just like in your comment.

There is someone here who can really relate to you

Oh please do tell... /s

They always resort to race when they have nothing else. It’s weak, it’s lame.

If Trump and his sycophants would stop being so fucking racist perhaps we could debate something else. The KKK and neo-Nazi's are cheering Trump but his blind deaf and dumb followers never ask themselves why, they just welcome the votes because they don't feel threatened by white supremacists, why should they be? Even if they don't completely share the deep seated hate, they share a skin color, faith and level of education so they're careful to not rock the racist boat for fear of losing that third of Republican voters who love to wave their confederate flags swastikas and chant "Jews will not replace us!". And yes, those sniveling piece of shit white supremacist's, aka "fine people" according to Trump, marching in Charlottesville trying to prevent the removal of a confederate monument were weak and lame but I've no doubt they all voted for Trump last week though not even their votes could get their dear Leader re-elected.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.10    2 weeks ago
So he didn't do those things and I just made all that up?

It should be painfully obvious to all that I clearly didn't say that, so WTF are you reading?

When you can't even be honest about what I did write, why waste time providing you with anything when your mind s made up and it is clear you will be willing to twist my words to suit your own purposes, as you did with your very first sentence?

Have a good night, I am sure there are plenty of members here willing to join the echo chamber.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @1.2.9    2 weeks ago
They always resort to race when they have nothing else. It’s weak, it’s lame

And utterly predictable.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago
This is one of the reasons why we cannot "reconcile" with the Trump crazies. They don't stop being crazy. 

Clearly the least of your concerns is to "reconcile" with all 71 million of us alleged racist deplorables. You should be happy that your guy won, although it remains to be seen if it will amount to much of any thing at all. And we continue to not care what you may think of us because your opinions are meaningless to rational and normal people. The GOP should hold on to the Senate thanks to the few decent Democrats that didn't fall for radical left agenda so Joe is literally fucked and powerless. Expect the midterms to vote out the Democrats.

Gore didn't concede until December 13th, so no rush for Trump to do so until January 20th, until every case of alleged voter fraud is investigated.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago
"and Trump is tweeting unhinged shit that some fear will lead to violence."

What else is new?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.4    2 weeks ago

I mean tRump is the King of unhinged shit . . . on a daily basis. . . on an hourly basis it seems.  .   .  

 
 
 
MAGA
1.5  MAGA  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

Why should republicans have any trust at all in a system where the election is literally being stolen right before our eyes.  Nothing to have faith in now.  

 
 
 
JBB
2  JBB    2 weeks ago

Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    2 weeks ago

No, it is absolutely no wonder at all, since it has been known as the GOP for well over a century and a half now.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2    2 weeks ago
"Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?"

I'm not allowed to say what the gop stand for, I don't want another ticket

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  author  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Barr told DOJ prosecutors to investigate the election returns in various states. 

This is what just happened

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BREAKING: In response to Barr's memo, the top DOJ official overseeing voter fraud investigations quit. w/@ktbenner

 
 
 
Ender
3.1  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

Barr is as crooked as donald...

Another scumbag that needs to be thrown out on his ass on 20 Jan.

 
 
 
JBB
3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Ender @3.1    2 weeks ago

Career folks at Justice have tar and feathers.

All they need is a rail to run him out of DC on.

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1.2  Kavika   replied to  JBB @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

This sack of losers will be gone on January 20th, 2021. Hopefully some will be hiring lawyers to keep out of jail. 

512

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

Crazy talk....he's still have weeks to bring up cases to prosecute on the part of the Democrats.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Ender @3.1    2 weeks ago
Barr is as crooked as donald...

More crooked. 

Trump is an ignorant asshole who doesn't have a clue what he is doing, so he is just throwing a temper tantrum.  Barr KNOWS what he is doing is wrong, and is doing it anyway.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @3.1    2 weeks ago

He's always been tRump's consigliere . . . imagine how furious tRump has been since his lapdog Barr has refused to lock 'em all up. . . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

" This sack of losers will be gone on January 20th, 2021. Hopefully some will be hiring lawyers to keep out of jail."

THANK GOD!  

PRAISE JESUS!

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Buh-bye to the whole damned criminal enterprise of an 'administration'

 
 
 
bbl-1
4  bbl-1    2 weeks ago

There is more to Trumpism than meets the eye.  Trouble is, those that support it do not understand it.  And for the 'rank and file' that supports ( it ) neither do they understand that ( it ) is not about them.

"Republican trust in election process cratered?"  Well that is only because of Donald J. Trump.  In many areas the GOP still picks their voters because of carefully 'coiffured' pieces of land in which select voters reside.  Thusly the GOP's frustrations and dismay are as a result of the existence of Donald J. Trump. 

The only real question remaining for those in 'the stalwart class of GOP' is------Is Donald J. Trump really worth all of that?   

 
 
 
MAGA
4.1  MAGA  replied to  bbl-1 @4    2 weeks ago

Yes!  1000%!  He’s remade the GOP for the better.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
4.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @4.1    2 weeks ago

Trump has remade the Republican Party into a cult of personality.  Everything must be for the benefit of the Dear Leader.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

"Dear leader"?

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Gsquared
4.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

That's "Dear Leader" with a capital "L".  You need to show him the proper respect.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

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Keep 'em coming!

 
 
 
JBB
4.1.5  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.4    2 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

Do you have any RELEVANT points to make regarding what was being discussed, or just the usual off-topic banter?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.1.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Not a bit true, but you could try to explain what you mean by using real world facts and instead of making stuff up.

A few examples should suffice to prove your point.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

More like "L" for LOSER

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tRump is the biggest loser not to mention whiniest little bitch.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
4.1.9  Gsquared  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.7    2 weeks ago

I just read a column in today's L.A. Times by leading conservative pundit, Jonah Goldberg.  Referring to Trump's cult of personality, Goldberg wrote:  "His infectious narcissism and incessant victimhood fueled this cult of personality, which he valued more than the office he held.  He's lost his grip on office, but he's doing everything he can to hold onto the cult, by claiming he was robbed."

Goldberg mentions:  "His minor successes were celebrated as unprecedented victories.  His major successes were offered as the proof of the president's almost superhuman qualities...

Goldberg cites:  the superhuman image he insisted his loyalists embrace... the self indulgence, the conspiracy theorizing and the constant need for praise and attention."

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  bbl-1 @4    2 weeks ago
Is Donald J. Trump really worth all of that

Sure was. Don't care for the man, but agreed with what he was trying to accomplish for the country.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    2 weeks ago

What did this 'president' ever accomplish other than for himself and his wealthy benefactors?

 
 
 
bbl-1
4.2.2  bbl-1  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    2 weeks ago

List four accomplishments Trump did for the country that you think are splendid.

 
 
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