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'Supreme commander' of so-called Black militia accused of pointing rifle at cops during Louisville protest

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  4 years ago  •  42 comments

By:   Nelson Oliveira (MSN)

'Supreme commander' of so-called Black militia accused of pointing rifle at cops during Louisville protest
The leader of a self-described Black militia was busted on federal charges Thursday after authorities said he was caught on camera pointing a rifle at officers during a summer protest in Louisville. John Johnson, who's also known as "Grandmaster Jay," was part of a group of armed protesters who gathered in the city's Jefferson Square Park on Sept. 4 for what turned out to be a tense night of demonstrations.

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'Supreme commander' of so-called Black militia accused of pointing rifle at cops during Louisville protest

The leader of a self-described Black militia was busted on federal charges Thursday after authorities said he was caught on camera pointing a rifle at officers during a summer protest in Louisville.

John Johnson, who's also known as "Grandmaster Jay," was part of a group of armed protesters who gathered in the city's Jefferson Square Park on Sept. 4 for what turned out to be a tense night of demonstrations.

Some of the officers who were conducting surveillance from a roof in the area were "blinded by a light" that was later found to be a flashlight mounted to the suspect's "AR platform style rifle," according to the FBI.

© Provided by New York Daily News John Johnson points gun at officers in Louisville, Kentucky, on Sept. 4, 2020.

John Johnson points gun at officers in Louisville, Kentucky, on Sept. 4, 2020. (FBI/)

"All officers advised they were concerned Johnson might intentionally, or even accidentally, discharge a round at them," the agency's Louisville division said in a statement to the Daily News.

Surveillance images released Thursday show Johnson aiming his gun at a building. The suspect did not fire the weapon, but authorities said his actions put officers' lives at risk.

The man calls himself the "supreme commander" of an all-Black group known as NFAC, or Not F---ing Around Coalition, a self-proclaimed militia with hundreds of members. The Ohio resident is also popular on YouTube, where his channel has more than 50,000 subscribers.

Authorities said Johnson knew exactly who he was pointing his rifle at because at least two officers with the Louisville Metropolitan Police Department were wearing body armor with a semi-reflective placard clearly identifying them, according to the FBI.

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None of the officers had drawn their handguns and only one had a rifle that night, though he did not point it at Johnson or any of the NFAC members at the scene, the agency said.

The criminal complaint says the suspect "forcibly assaulted, resisted, opposed, impeded, intimidated, and interfered with federally deputized task force officers" when he aimed a rifle at them. The charge is punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison.

© Oldham County Jail, Kentucky John Johnson

John Johnson (Oldham County Jail, Kentucky/)

"The FBI respects the rights of individuals to peacefully exercise their First Amendment rights," FBI Special Agent in Charge James Robert Brown, Jr. said in a statement.

"Our mission of protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution is dual and simultaneous, not contradictory," he said. "Accordingly, we are committed to investigating violent behavior and those who are exploiting legitimate, peaceful protests and engaging in violations of federal law."

Johnson was being held without bond Thursday at the Oldham County Jail.

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Texan1211
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1  seeder  Texan1211    4 years ago

Just yet another completely peaceful protester!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @1    4 years ago

He was not a protester.  He is an agitator.  Big difference.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

He is lucky that he was not shot.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3  Split Personality    4 years ago
Some of the officers who were conducting surveillance from a roof in the area were "blinded by a light" that was later found to be a flashlight mounted to the suspect's "AR platform style rifle," according to the FBI.

I want to know what kind of flashlight can blind officers on a roof? I need ideas for Xmas presents...

Were they wearing night vision goggles?  Why is the "AR style rifle" important to mention?

Was he carrying it legally?

The criminal complaint says the suspect "forcibly assaulted, resisted, opposed, impeded, intimidated, and interfered with federally deputized task force officers" when he aimed a rifle at them. The charge is punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison.

The criminal charge seems sensationally written.

The picture offered as evidence looks very well lit, as in why would he have a blinding flashlight on

while pointing his rifle at a building.

Surveillance images released Thursday show Johnson aiming his gun at a building. The suspect did not fire the weapon, but authorities said his actions put officers’ lives at risk.

Seems like certain people are sending Mr Johnson a message.  Couldn't arrest him that night for cause.  Took 59 days to convince some one this was a good investment.

CMTSU

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago
Why is the "AR style rifle" important to mention?

It's a dog whistle for those opposed to guns. Much of the media reports on any AR-style weapon, seems like it is clickbait for some.

Was he carrying it legally?

Doesn't matter, that isn't what he was arrested for.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    4 years ago
Much of the media reports on any AR-style weapon, seems like it is clickbait for some.

The media was quoting the DOJ press release. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.1    4 years ago

so what?

does it matter?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    4 years ago
so what?

So your claim that it was a 'dog whistle for those opposed to guns' looks to be an unfounded kneejerk reply. 

does it matter?

Yes, facts matter and those facts refute your narrative. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.3    4 years ago

I really am not concerned with what you think it is.

I prefer to be realistic and truthful.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.4    4 years ago
I really am not concerned with what you think it is.

Then WHY did you post these questions to me:

so what? does it matter?

Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. 

I prefer to be realistic and truthful.

Your comments prove otherwise. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.5    4 years ago

because I felt like it.

anything else?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    4 years ago

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Mark in Wyoming
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3.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago
I want to know what kind of flashlight can blind officers on a roof? I need ideas for Xmas presents...

I have 2 separate ones capable of that , one is 250,000 lumens and runs off 9 AA batteries and has 2 intensity level settings as well as spot adjustment to flood light . that one is made by ultra performance. i use that one when its dark and i have to inspect the semi.

 the other one is actually brighter at 500.000 lumen and runs on 3 AAA batteries , and has 4 switch settings for flasher , bright and extra bright , and has the same sliding spot to flood as the other , and because its compact i usually carry that on my belt , made by pro 4 tactical. only problem with it is continuous use is only about 3-4 hrs dependent on setting and brightness chosen. its size also makes it able to get into places the other cant.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.2    4 years ago

Well, one of us may have the comas and periods mixed up

Ultra P does have a 3,000 lumen model but it looks like it wouldn't fit a rifle very well and they don't advertise rifle mounts for them.

The short "tactical" AGM ones, I lose and find regularly, all over the house, 3 AAA batteries generates 9,000 lumen on a few, 10,000 on the other three, all zoom-able.

Could not find anything online bigger than a Marauder purporting 214,000 lumen but on the packaging it was only 14,000 lumen.

but I can't see someone claiming assault when they were 45 - 60 feet away even with a 10,000 lumen.

Pretty sure the few lights north of 25,000 are fire hazards like the old corded 8K  lamps that plugged into the cigarette lighter, lol.

Military grade.

I would just shine my torch back at anyone lighting me up.

just my opinion.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3.2.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Split Personality @3.2.1    4 years ago

likely me that has the commas mixed , all i can say is they bring daylight conditions to pitch dark, which at my age is not a bad thing . they both light up things at least 70 yards out.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.1    4 years ago
they don't advertise rifle mounts for them.

Having managed a gun range, if something does not exist for a firearm, there are some pretty cleaver shoots that invent their own.  I have seen some pretty unusual things created by my customers.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.2.4  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2.3    4 years ago

yup necessity is the mother of invention . it just depends on how permanent one wishes the mount to be and ease of function. 

pretty sure i can come up with a mount to the barrel that would clamp to the barrel and hold my smaller flashlight. and do so securely and effectively without interfering with the sights.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.3  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago
Why is the "AR style rifle" important to mention? Was he carrying it legally?

As for the first question , that would have to be asked of the media , they tend to like to do such things , and specifically it should be asked of the reporter themselves.

as for the 2nd question , whether he was carrying it legally or not , is not actually the question , mainly because pointing a firearm at any identifiable LEO is illegal in most if not all jurisdictions  and as the article states , the LEO in question were identifiable .

Now the only conclusion that i can reasonably come up with is one of 2 things ,

one , the gentleman got lazy and was using both his illumination device in conjunction with his rifles optics ( if it had them) to identify who was on the roof instead of using binoculars , i myself am guilty of doing the same thing while hunting.

the other more nefarious conclusion was he was alerting other members of his group of the officers position in high ground for whatever reasons.

I tend to think the first is actually the case

as for the lapse in the time from protest to arrest, i tend to think there is more than is being reported going on than we are being told.

 if i remember correctly , this is the same protest and group that had the accidental discharge that wounded a memeber of their own group.

maybe he should have taken the name of his coalition more seriously and not fucked around , especially when it involved a firearm and how it was used no matter how innocently or nefariously it actually was.

just my musings in the wilderness.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.3.1  Dulay  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.3    4 years ago
As for the first question , that would have to be asked of the media , they tend to like to do such things , and specifically it should be asked of the reporter themselves.

Again, the media just quoted the DOJ press release so if there is an issue, it's with the DOJ. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.3.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.3.1    4 years ago

trying to deny that the media doesn't try to rile people up with terns like assault rifle or AR 15 is pointless

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
3.3.3  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.2    4 years ago
trying to deny that the media doesn't try to rile people up with terns like assault rifle or AR 15 is pointless

That is a strawman argument Tex.

I stated a FACT, which BTFW, refutes the claims about 'the media' including yours.

I didn't 'try to deny' a fucking thing. 

Nor have YOU tried to deny the FACT that the media merely QUOTED the term used by the DOJ.

Take that weak bullshit to someone who is willing to swill it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.3.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.3.3    4 years ago

and??????

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.4  Dulay  replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago
I want to know what kind of flashlight can blind officers on a roof? I need ideas for Xmas presents...

From the video I saw, the Louisville protest took place in broad daylight. That must be some bitchin flashlight. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.4.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.4    4 years ago

maybe you should read the article and look at the pictures

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.4.2  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.1    4 years ago

I did. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.4.2    4 years ago

can't tell night from day then?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
3.4.4  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.3    4 years ago

Every one of the videos in the seed show DAYLIGHT events. Perhaps the DOJ meant to say AFTER a protest. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.4.4    4 years ago

like I stated earlier, look at the pictures in the seeded article.

They are NOT all daytime photos, unless you think the sun can cast shadows in two different directions 

easy to see NIGHT.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.4.6  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.5    4 years ago

this might help Tex.

John Johnson, who’s also known as “Grandmaster Jay,” was part of a group of armed protesters who gathered in the city’s Jefferson Square Park on Sept. 4 for what turned out to be a tense night of demonstrations.

 a tense NIGHT of demonstrations , so the protest and demonstrations lasted past when the sun went down, including a group that had already had an accidental discharge and shot one of their own members , yeah i would have been a little "Tense" myself if one of them pointed a firearm in my general direction , not as tense as if i had farted in their general direction....

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.4.6    4 years ago

I appreciate your efforts, but if one can't look at the pictures and tell which ones were taken at night, I am not sure explaining it is going to be of much help.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
3.4.8  Dulay  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.4.6    4 years ago
a tense NIGHT of demonstrations , so the protest and demonstrations lasted past when the sun went down,

The photo is obviously NOT 'during' the protest. 

including a group that had already had an accidental discharge and shot one of their own members ,

Which actually took place during a different protest MONTHS before the Sept. incident. 

yeah i would have been a little "Tense" myself if one of them pointed a firearm in my general direction 

Ya, that's just about every POC feels about police now. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.4.9  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Dulay @3.4.8    4 years ago

i stand corrected , there was an AD during the july demonstration , not the sept one , and a second one in oct  that i can find in searching , still not a very good safety record.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
3.4.10  Dulay  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.4.9    4 years ago

They shouldn't let trainees carry loaded weapons during their protests. 

Years ago, when I went to a Project Appleseed training event, I was terrified of being shot by the dozens of 'rookies'. We were going to camp there overnight but the 'safety' wasn't up to par. We went to Starved Rock...

I got to shoot an Enfield that day though...

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.4.11  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Dulay @3.4.10    4 years ago
They shouldn't let trainees carry loaded weapons during their protests. 

no arguments from me.

 i would likely go one better , but this is likely the old military police in me.

dependent on the size of the group , not more than 5 % ( i figure thats a decent number and percentage ) actually have loaded mags in their firearms  simply as security so no one attempts to forcibly take firearms that are not authorized to do so .

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago
what kind of flashlight can blind officers on a roof?
Laser pointers can do that but I would not suggest trying it.  If you get caught it is a big time fine and possible prison time.  We just had a guy pull that on a police helicopter pilot.  The dumbass is looking at a $250,000 fine and possibly 10 years in prison under depraved indifference charges.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

20 years is too good for him!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 years ago

What would be good for Kyle the murderer then?  Are there white guidelines that are more appropriate for him?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1    4 years ago
What would be good for Kyle the murderer then?  

You mean self defense.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    4 years ago

Self defense from being attacked with a plastic bag?  They’re going to love this snowflake in prison.  He’ll be a toothless orifice in no time.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1    4 years ago

this isn't about Kyle

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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4.2  Old Hermit  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 years ago
20 years is too good for him! .
The criminal complaint says the suspect "forcibly assaulted, resisted, opposed, impeded, intimidated, and interfered with federally deputized task force officers" when he aimed a rifle at them . The charge is punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison.

Stupid dude should've known that you've gotta be a white, right wing nut job if want to get away with pointing loaded weapons at officers.

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Ed-NavDoc
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5  Ed-NavDoc    4 years ago

The same group, one of whose members accidently shot one of their own members in the back. A real highly trained and disciplined group there...

 
 

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