QAnon Shaman's '60 Minutes' interview backfired. Judge cites interview when ruling he must remain jailed until trial.
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Via: tessylo • 3 years ago • 59 commentsBy: Erin Snodgrass, Business Insider
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QAnon Shaman's '60 Minutes' interview backfired. Judge cites interview when ruling he must remain jailed until trial.
Jacob Chansley during the January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol. Win McNamee/Getty Images
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The QAnon Shaman has lost his most recent attempt at getting out of jail ahead of his trial.
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Court documents released Monday argue that Jacob Chansley remains a flight risk and danger.
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A judge said Chansley's "60 Minutes" interview proved he didn't appreciate his charges' severity
More than two months after the deadly Capitol insurrection , one judge thinks Jacob Chansley, the self-styled QAnon Shaman, still hasn't learned his lesson.
The infamous horned participant of the riot lost his latest motion for pretrial release Monday, according to new court documents that reject Chansley's claims he was a peaceful participant in the fatal siege.
Earlier this month, Chansley gave his first jailhouse interview since his arrest, telling the "60 Minutes Plus" correspondent Laurie Segall that he didn't consider his participation in the insurrection an attack on the United States.
In the interview, Chansley said he regretted entering the US Capitol illegally but had thought the move was "acceptable" because police officers had "waved" protesters in - a claim prosecutors have been unable to confirm, according to court records.
Chansley told Segall his actions inside the building were "peaceful" and "calm." The 33-year-old said he "sang a song" inside the chamber and even "stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the break room."
But legal documents argue Chansley's depiction of events is a mischaracterization of the role he played that day.
"Defendant's perception of his actions on January 6th as peaceful, benign, and well-intentioned, shows a detachment from reality," Lamberth said in the decision.
Chansley is jailed in Washington, DC, facing six charges and up to 20 years in prison over the riot. In addition to accusations that he illegally trespassed as one of the first rioters to breach the Capitol, court records say Chansley also clashed with Capitol police officers, went into the Senate chamber, and left a note on then-Vice President Mike Pence's dais saying "it's only a matter of time, justice is coming."
He later told FBI agents that Pence was a "child-trafficking traitor," referring to a QAnon conspiracy theory, while Chansley's lawyer, Al Watkins, argued in a pretrial-release motion that his client's note for Pence used words that came directly from former President Donald Trump and were not meant as a threat to Pence.
Chansley with others during the Capitol insurrection. SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images
In the aftermath of the Capitol siege, Chansley has become an outspoken critic of Trump , blaming the former president for his participation in the riot and even offering to testify against Trump at his impeachment trial . Though last week, Chansley told CBS News he didn't regret his loyalty to Trump.
As a growing number of riot suspects turn on the former president, Lamberth's Monday decision suggests shifting blame to Trump may not be a reliable defense.
"If defendant truly believes that the only reason he participated in an assault on the US Capitol was to comply with President Trump's orders, this shows defendant's inability (or refusal) to exercise his independent judgment and conform his behavior to the law," Lamberth said.
Though Chansley had no prior criminal history, Lamberth argued that his "blatant disregard" for the law on January 6 made him a danger to the public and that the weight of evidence against him, including photos and video footage of him inside the Capitol, "increases the risk he will flee."
The court documents also cited Chansley's drug use and what it said was a "willingness to lie about that drug use" as further examples of a "willingness to openly break the law."
According to legal documents, Chansley told pretrial services that he used marijuana three times a week and used no other drugs. Yet, Chansley reportedly said on his podcast that he used psychoactive substances and mushrooms as part of his "shamanistic practice."
Lamberth also rejected Chansley's claim in his pretrial-release motion that COVID-19 restrictions had made "meaningful, unmonitored" consultation with his lawyer "impossible."
The judge said the issue was not that Watkins was unable to meet with his client but that when he did, he "squanders" the time focusing on media and interview preparation.
"Such media appearances are undoubtedly conducive to defense counsel's fame," Lamberth wrote. "But they are not at all conducive to an argument that the only way defense counsel could privately communicate with his client is if defendant were temporarily released."
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Earlier this month, Chansley gave his first jailhouse interview since his arrest, telling the "60 Minutes Plus" correspondent Laurie Segall that he didn't consider his participation in the insurrection an attack on the United States.
In the interview, Chansley said he regretted entering the US Capitol illegally but had thought the move was "acceptable" because police officers had "waved" protesters in - a claim prosecutors have been unable to confirm, according to court records.
Chansley told Segall his actions inside the building were "peaceful" and "calm." The 33-year-old said he "sang a song" inside the chamber and even "stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the break room."
But legal documents argue Chansley's depiction of events is a mischaracterization of the role he played that day.
"Defendant's perception of his actions on January 6th as peaceful, benign, and well-intentioned, shows a detachment from reality," Lamberth said in the decision.
Chansley is jailed in Washington, DC, facing six charges and up to 20 years in prison over the riot. In addition to accusations that he illegally trespassed as one of the first rioters to breach the Capitol, court records say Chansley also clashed with Capitol police officers, went into the Senate chamber, and left a note on then-Vice President Mike Pence's dais saying "it's only a matter of time, justice is coming."
He later told FBI agents that Pence was a "child-trafficking traitor," referring to a QAnon conspiracy theory, while Chansley's lawyer, Al Watkins, argued in a pretrial-release motion that his client's note for Pence used words that came directly from former President Donald Trump and were not meant as a threat to Pence.
Seriously. This guy is 30+ years old, unemployed, wanders his neighborhood in his "shaman" costume, and still lives with his mommy.
Calling him "detached from reality" is being polite.
I think mommy might have also driven him to the 'rally'
I wonder how soon this idiot finds a sharp lawyer files that a civil lawsuit against Trump along the lines that Rep. Swalwell did?
Lamberth also rejected Chansley's claim in his pretrial-release motion that COVID-19 restrictions had made "meaningful, unmonitored" consultation with his lawyer "impossible."
The judge said the issue was not that Watkins was unable to meet with his client but that when he did, he "squanders" the time focusing on media and interview preparation.
"Such media appearances are undoubtedly conducive to defense counsel's fame," Lamberth wrote. "But they are not at all conducive to an argument that the only way defense counsel could privately communicate with his client is if defendant were temporarily released."
Chansley is a idiot nut case loose cannon and loser who deserves to remain incarcerated, probably for quite a while. I hope he gets a fair trial, is prosecuted and found guilty, and punished to the fullest extent of the law!
Agreed.
Maybe, but remember rule #1
And here I was thinking "good thing that warning doesn't always work", especially in this case.
Good point.
These dumbshits are delusional if they think they're getting out prior to trial. Well, they're delusional in the first place.
I'm surprised that he didn't claim that he's too pretty for prison.
-- A hillbilly in Deliverance.
Exactly. He's about to see the real "Q" anon.
"Defendant's perception of his actions on January 6th as peaceful, benign, and well-intentioned, shows a detachment from reality," Lamberth said in the decision.
Those that still support and send money to Trump are detached from reality.
every picture I've seen of this Qmoron is him striking a pose. hopefully he'll spend the next 20 years having plastic eating utensils removed from his body, when he's not getting his dumb ass kicked in jail.
Anyone who still thinks the election was stolen or that Trump actually won and didn't inflame the insurrection has a complete and total detachment from reality and possibly sanity too.
That defense didn't work in Nuremburg 75 years ago, either
same twisted criminal mentality though ...
Insurrectionist Photographed In Nancy Pelosi's Office Says It's Unfair He Remains Jailed
Richard Barnett, 60, pleaded with a judge during a Thursday court hearing in Washington to let him out of jail, where he has been held since he was arrested shortly after he was among the supporters of then-President Donald Trump who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. Pictures of the Arkansas man mugging for the camera as he sat in Pelosi’s office quickly surfaced and have become iconic images of the insurrection.
“They’re dragging this out. They’re letting everyone else out,” Barnett yelled during his hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Christopher R. Cooper, the Daily Beast reported. “I’ve been here a long time. It’s not fair.”
About 300 people so far have been arrested by federal officials on charges stemming from the riot, with most released from custody as their cases proceed.
Look up dumb ass in the dictionary and there is his photo.
The dumbass spent two years in the Navy and never advanced past E-2. That says something right there!
Really? Gee, I made E-3 after I completed AIT at Ft, Campbell. About 16 weeks in the Army.
He was bounced out of the Navy because he refused a required vaccine.
Here's what the dumbass looks like without his helmet.
Why does it look like he's got a hole between his eyes?
It is a hole. His brains exited his head there some time ago.
It's most likely a tattoo.
Mole.
Laser point ?
Target ?
That was my first thought when I noticed it a week ago , then I felt sorry for it.
Maybe.
He demanded that he be given special meals in jail, but can't be bothered to tighten up that mess on his face? Putz.
... 'nuff said.
Good grief, I'm sick of this fool and his overblown opinion of himself. I've got a few suggestions of where he can stick those horns...and that spear he used as a flag pole.
Chansley didn't fare well with the judge. Good for him.
But, has anyone seen the interview with his mother? Something is not right there. I mean between the two of them.
Do you have a link about the mommy interview? Do you think something incestuous is going on?
Chansley's Mom - Interview
better one
Do not know. He lives in the basement, allegedly---nothing about the father---and she just seems a bit on the 'edge of.....something.'
Links provided by MsAubrey. I think I saw it on CBS.
Five minute into that and she is laughing about what happened.
So far, the nut didn't fall far from the tree.
Exactly.
I was thinking too much acid or too many "magic" mushrooms while pregnant, making them both kooky.
But he lent me his comb...
It was just an off the cuff question I guess regarding inbreeding. I'm going to watch the interview now.
She's a moron.
He didn't go into an 'open door'
What video(s) was she watching?
She's rambling nonsense about the 'deep state'
He was one of the first ones inside.
A lot of non answers.
We're victims.
'To answer your question' . . . yet, she never answers the question.
We're victims
She says he wasn't a part of any of the vandalism or whatever but him being there in the first place, makes him a part of it.
Ho hum
I appreciate the link MsAubrey - I couldn't find it the other day.
MAGA is a social disorder.
I thought initially mommy drove him there, but it's obvious now that she didn't.
Of course trump 'egged them on'
Mommy's little baby isn't being demonized.
Mommy is getting her 15 minutes of fame.
Or framing herself for 15 minutes.