Senate Republicans Vote To Kill Voting Rights Bill
This afternoon in the US Senate the 50 Republicans voted in lockstep to kill the voting rights bill known as "For The People" . The bill will not even receive debate on the Senate floor.
Although this may seem like a dark day for democracy, it can be the start of a new day. People will still be able to vote, despite Republican instigated obstacles to voting in the various states, and what it will mainly take is a massive voter organization effort to get out the vote in the 2022 midterms. With enough turnout we can retain the Senate and House and prevent the rightwing Republicans from achieving their nefarious plans.
It really is up to all Democrats and others such as moderates and independents to unite in a common cause to defeat the conservative efforts to cripple democracy. And that has to be done at the polls. And it can be. They did it in Georgia, and it can be done everywhere.
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The Democrats have been given the gift of an issue to campaign on in the 2022 elections.
Gee, I don't know about that.
Going to be hard to convince people to go vote after claiming all that suppression and shit!
Really? They are DOA in 2022.
Yes, the gqp certainly will be DOA come 2022.
Why on earth would the world's greatest deliberative body bother to deliberate? Tack this up to one other thing the Founders didn't foresee.
Shhhhhh..................wouldn't want to upset anyone with a display of American exceptionalism!
What's that? Even Donald's alma mater has called Canada the best country in the world to live in.
OMG, surely someone as well-read as you are knows what the hell I am referring to.
If not, sorry.
And nothing to do with Canada!
Yes I know what you are talking about ... it's a tiresome meme.
Yeah, and try as I might, I can't get progressive liberals to stop bitching about it!!!
Actually, they did.
They didn't want another King, nor one party in charge..
This bill was simply an attempted power grab by the Dems
In reality, it's never been easier to vote, or commit fraud
Oh my. When you feel the steel on the rails and the piercing scream of the whistle be assured that it is coming right at ya.
"Stop the steal" and all the rest, right?
You seem to be happy with the minority party being in charge. Democrats in the senate represent 40% more Americans than Republicans in the senate do. Spare me the way your system is set up, I know it well as I do all of the 'arguments'.
Since you know our system so well, surely you know that each state has two Senators, and population has absolutely nothing to do with it by design.
... "by design" for 13 states, the Founders did not invision 50.
Doesn't matter--the principle is the same---TWO SENATORS from each state.
Be it 13 states, 50 states, or more.
Funny, never have I seen any Democrat suggesting that having Washington, DC or Puerto Rico with fewer Senators would be something they would do.
Sounds more like sour grapes because the Democrats couldn't win a decisive majority.
Balances out the sour raisins because Trump didn't win re-election.
Oooo ... emoji repartee, very impressive.
Helsinki?
Have to know what your intended audience can easily comprehend.
GOP has to stop this. There is something about the money currently in the GOP, some of it laundered from the NRA and others. Dirty money. Russian/Saudi/Chinese money. As long as it stays dark there is nothing to see, right?
Isn't grasping at straws getting tiring yet?
Follow the money. Ain't no straws.
AH, the nebulous "money"!
Tell me, is this the very same money that progressive liberals were whining about after the CU ruling?
LOL.
Isn't Defending Lying Aszwholes...?
You're exactly right bbl-1.
Why don't you show us the Biden family money? Prove it!
Gonna sell some "art" for influence seekers..................
Of course they are. They are shit face terrified that if voting is made easy, it would be the end of their careers. They can't handle a level playing field and have STOP THE STEAL tattooed on their asses because they will never accept honest defeat and can't even get it up without looking at a picture of Trump first.
This is a huge loss for the left. They can't win unless they cheat.
The states have absolute powers over their elections. The feds have none. Read the constitution once in awhile. LOL That law would never have made it past the supreme court.
So, the "Stop The Steal" is accurate?
Trump really won in a landslide? The liberals stole the election?
Arizona ... Arizona ... Arizona! Movie by nutcase to screen on Sunday night. Be there!
If they really want to stop the steal, they can start by not sending money to the Orange con man who just puts it in his own pockets.
Says someone who hasn't read the Constitution.
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 :
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators .
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Wow, y'all are the kings of projection, deflection, and denial.
You can also tell by his up votes, who has actually read the Constitution and who just goes by spam folder talking points.
Anyone who has upvoted "FortunateSon #5" admitted that they do not care about the true facts.
True dat!
No surprise there. The GOP has been flat out saying they want as few people to vote as possible.
And yet, more people voted than ever before
Despite these lying cheatin Fcks
Yeah the gop suppressed a record turnout.
All due to the hatred of the most incompetent POTUS (Trump) in history. You can take comfort that 45 is tops in that one area (incompetence).
Nope, they tried and failed once again. Which is why they are creating so many new voter suppression laws. If at 1st you don't succeed, suppress, suppress again.
There is no such thing as voter suppression. No one has their right taken away nor, as the definition reads, "forcibly put an end to". There may be different levels of inconvenience but nothing more. It all comes down to how badly do you want to vote.
Inconvenience = suppression.
Not saying that they are removing voter rights. They are suppressing certain people's ability to vote by making it more and more inconvenient and difficult for them to exercise their right to vote.
So as far as you're concerned, it would be okay to set up an American Ninja style obstacle course that certain members of that state would have to go through to vote? If they don't want to, or can't, go through the course, you can just claim that they didn't want to vote badly enough?
That's all today's gqp has is voter suppression. That's the only way they can win. They've admitted it with every voter suppression bill that they're passing.
Certain GOP members have even admitted (accidently), that is the purpose with some of the bills.
Yes, 7 million more votes for PRESIDENT BIDEN!
Which is why they continue to suppress votes from DEMOCRATS.
He's also tops in impotence.
But at least he brought his own toilet paper....
Voter suppression is nothing more than a liberal progressive theory.
It doesn't actually have any basis in fact.
I figured with the way Democrats passed Jim Crow laws left and right, they would at least be able to recognize suppression, but clearly they can not.
You sure like talking about democrats from over a century ago, but avoid modern day republicans.
I would say it is truly amazing how you deflect, but it is just getting old now.
By responding directly to YOUR JIM CROW LAWS comment?
Context, dude, context.
Sigh.
Translation: Don't read what I wrote, I will tell you I meant to say.
We've been through all this before.
Stop trying to translate ordinary English into something you can accept.
Everyone else is able to read what I post just fine without trying to "translate". Maybe they are more comfortable with the English language and thus see no need to pervert it.
It all comes down to how badly the repukes DON'T WANT DEMOCRATS TO VOTE
Democrats can vote, and it is silly to think that they can not.
Ridiculous lies about suppression won't work anymore, just like Democratic lies about voter ID no longer works.
Thought it interesting in may , a mexican national lost his wallet just outside yellowstone , they identified him by his mexican government issued national voter ID card .... Ironic to me.
Many countries require ID to vote.
Like Russia and North Korea?
Amazingly inaccurate.
gee, the polls aren't open when it is most convenient to me at 6 am, so I must be suppressed!!
LMMFAO at the sheer idiocy of equating inconvenience with suppression.
Thank God I was taught better.
That is called willful ignorance.
What if the polls are only allowed open between 2 am and 4 am. Would you feel suppressed then?
I was fucking joking, dude.
Of course I am not suppressed, just like no one is.
Just pointing out how idiotic of an argument it is to equate inconvenience with suppression, like you did.
Some of the arguments you see here are really amazing.
When you change election laws from less restricted to more restricted you should have objective reasons. Over recent years numerous Republican officials around the country have admitted they change election laws and voting requirements in order to try and limit the number of Democrats that vote. This is, on the face of it, inexcusable. The ONLY thing that matters in a vote is that it is made by a single registered voter and done by election day. Nothing else matters. The number of early voting days doesnt matter, the hours don't matter, voting "out of precinct" doesnt matter. If you cut back hours and days you are trying to lower the number of people that vote, period.
How come yours and Tex's aren't...?
Why should voting be inconvenient?
That was my thought. Why intentionally make it inconvenient...
Which actually means harder.
Off the top of my head, no pain no gain but that doesn't apply. And convenience is subjective. I am not advocating inconvenience just saying there are those who would and will bitch about having to go an extra half mile to vote. I don't care what they do, nothing is going to stop this guy from voting short of death.
Ok, then...let's move the voting booth 5 miles from your house. All you have is a rusty bicycle to get around on...you order your groceries on line (just to stop you there). You're 96 years old but still pretty spry. You could ride that rusty bike to the voter booth but damn! That's pretty tough for a 96 year man, isn't it?
And...once upon a time, my parents had to drive at least 3 miles to get to the polls. They were fortunate they had a working car. That's what it's like living in a rural area. There was only one polling location for the entire township.
I'm glad we have early voting where I live. I can't take off work to vote but I can take a Saturday morning to do my civic duty. And I have done it after work.
Living in Chicago, I've never had a polling place that wasnt within walking distance. Maybe we just have more voting locations than other places, I dont know but I sometimes hear about people waiting hours to vote. The longest I ever waited to vote was about 10 minutes.
In your scenario, if I weren't spry enough to ride the bicycle that 5 miles I would vote absentee or mail in as those are legal options not being taken away by anyone if the reason is legitimate. And when I was growing up, my parents had to drive over six miles as we lived in the boonies too.
You lived in the city, John. I lived 20 miles from the biggest town that was over 30,000. Our township was large in area but small in population. One polling location for everyone and that's it
But what if these new laws go into effect and you can't get an absentee ballot. How are you going to request one anyway. By mail? How do they know it's you? Don't you need to prove who you are to request one? Oh...and you don't have internet access, either
Especially since their doughnut goddess, Stacy Abrams, said she never had a problem with voter ID (even though she has called it racist many times in the recent past)
She blew their talking point out of the water.
When are you going to protest the Delaware state house to get their voting laws more in line with most red state "Jim Crowe" laws, where their laws are far more liberal than Delaware's?
This is, after all, the state that "Dementia" Joe is from.
Or do you not care about blue state suppression?
What laws are banning absentee ballots? Tightening them up maybe but.....
Family, friends, the mailman where there is a will there is a way. I realize sometimes in this day and age that too is too hard for some to latch on to as it seems most things are an "I want it now and my way" ........................that being part of the problem.
Wouldn't help anyway.
Now, back to, as you put in (and I like it) the bipart topic. Seems the queen of the House isn't buying. What a bitch...........
Which goes to my point of "want it now and what I want". Baby steps or at least one step at a time you pouting face little twit.
That's not happening in any of the new laws.
In reality, it's never been easier to vote, or commit fraud
Well hell Nan got to Mr. Biden.............already LOL
Who's playing games now. Reminds me of amnesty an the border and Reagan and how the dems screwed him when it came time for money.
Not sure about them, but 46 out of 47 European countries require it, and the other has introduced plans to require it.
And I'll bet good money if you are interested enough, you will find out if those two you asked about require it.
There is plenty of time and ways to vote in almost every state.
Please stop pretending that people are being suppressed, it is ridiculous.
And somehow, it will become the GOP's fault that Joe renegged on the deal.
It's not ridiculous. It's true.
Wanda Sykes did a bit about that - I forgot what she said - but - nobody told the asshole he had TP on his shoe.
What countries?
Who says you would qualify for the absentee/mail in ballot? With the new restrictions being put in place in such a scenario most RED states would not allow that person to do mail in voting. So... try again?
Name them!
Pretty much what I was trying to get across.
Name those restrictions. Thanks,
Please refrain from asking me for links you have admitted you don't bother to read. It is silly and pointless.
If you truly wish to know, all you have to do is Google it.
Takes almost 10 seconds if you type slow.
Facts are deflection to some here.
They have?
How about some quotes...
Well, here we are, more than 24 hours later, and still no quotes.
Is anyone surprised?
Thrawn doesn't dance to your tune. He's probably busy somewhere besides here.
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“ Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places, ” Justin Clark, senior Trump campaign adviser and legal counsel, was taped saying at a closed-door meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association chapter in Wisconsin. “Let’s start playing offense a little bit,” Clark told the Republican lawyers group. “That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”
” If Republicans don’t challenge and change the US election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again .” - South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham
“ Not everybody wants to vote , and if somebody is uninterested in voting, that probably means that they’re totally uninformed on the issues,” Arizona Rep. Joe Kavanagh
“What’s the interest of the Arizona RNC in keeping, say, the out-of-precinct ballot disqualification rules on the books?" Justice Amy Coney Barrett asked, referencing legal standing. “ Because it puts us at a competitive disadvantage relative to Democrats ,” said Republican Michael Carvin, the lawyer defending the restrictions. “Politics is a zero-sum game. And every extra vote they get through unlawful interpretation of Section 2 hurts us, it’s the difference between winning an election 50-49 and losing an election 51 to 50.”
“They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again .” Donald trump said of proposed Democratic changes to election laws that would make it easier for more eligible voters to cast their ballots. “This will be extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives,” said Republican Georgia State House Speaker David Ralston of those proposed election rule changes to make it easier for more eligible Americans to vote.
For starters, this is an opinion piece, but it's nice to see Thrawn has so many overseers that think they have to answer for him, because it is obvious he can't answer for himself.
For Trout....disclaimer...Thrawn has posted more than 20 times since I responded to his post, so your rude comment was a fail.
For the first quote, you "forgot" this part..."(Clark later told the AP he was talking about false accusations against Republicans).......THIS is the truth.
The second, third and fourth "quotes" are not in the article, so I won't comment on them, since I tore your first one apart easily.
The last one has nothing to do with suppression, just some opinion hack make believing what he hears in his head.
Try again.
I believe that Xi Jinping would applaud the Republicans' dedication to suppression of the rights of Americans to vote.
he may well applaud, but it would be rather stupid of him or anyone to applaud for something that didn't occur.
In Michigan every registered voter is eligible to vote absentee ballot. There are absolutely no restrictions for it either. All one has to do is use a phone to request an absentee ballot application sent or their on line services can be used. One never has to even leave their home to vote. How much easier can it be? The swamp makes everything difficult not the states.
If it is so easy and secure to vote by mail why are so many red states making it harder to vote in person or by mail?
Which ones are doing so and what are the exact wording of the laws that are making it harder?
Keep in mind, Delaware, the home of "Lost" Joe, has less voting days than most red states, including the "Jim Crowe 2.0" state of Georgia.
Explain that.