Trump Demands To know "Who Shot Ashli Babbitt?

  

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By:  john-russell  •  4 weeks ago  •  37 comments

Trump Demands To know  "Who Shot Ashli Babbitt?


Last night at his rally Trump repeatedly asked "who shot Ashli Babbitt?"

If he had phrased the question a little differently and instead asked "who killed Ashli Babbitt? , had any of the adoring crowd had a mirror on them they could have lent it to Trump to look at and then he would have his answer. 

Trump is now in his cast the blame elsewhere phase and evidently wants to endanger the life of the security guard who shot Babbitt as she tried to climb through a broken door window into an off limits area of the House of Representatives. 

By pleading for the identity of her shooter, Trump is inherently making the argument that the assault on the House Speakers Lobby wasnt that big of a deal. 

House members had left that area only seconds before the mob tried to break that door down, and some of them were still visible at the other end of the hall from where Babbitt was entering. 

Trump grows more evil by the day. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

www.sfchronicle.com   /opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-The-Fourth-of-July-the-Capitol-riot-16291283.php

Editorial: The Fourth of July, the Capitol riot and a new nationalist holiday

Chronicle Editorial Board 4-5 minutes   7/4/2021


Independence Day commemorates a declaration of ideals that the country thereby created has struggled to live up to for 245 years. Last month’s congressional recognition of Juneteenth National Independence Day, marking the last freeing of slaves as the first new federal holiday since Martin Luther King Day, took a symbolic step toward reckoning with the lasting discrepancies between ideals and reality.

But Juneteenth isn’t our only present exercise in national holiday creation. Instead of expanding and elaborating on our collective understanding of the nation and its freedoms, another emerging holiday explicitly rejects the democratic aspirations of the Fourth of July in favor of the violent, divided and deluded portents of the Sixth of January.

Fourteen of the House’s 211 Republicans — among them Northern California’s own Tom McClintock and Doug LaMalfa — voted against Juneteenth recognition. The day before, 21 voted against awarding the Congressional Gold Medal to the police officers who protected them from the mob that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, the worst breach thereof since our last war with the British.

A month earlier, 175 Republicans — led by Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield, the House minority leader, and including all but one of his fellow California Republicans — voted against a bipartisan commission to investigate that deadly assault. Modeled on the independent body that investigated the 9/11 attacks and negotiated by the Homeland Security Committee’s top Republican and Democrat, the proposal was finally killed by Senate Republicans. Most fell in line after Donald Trump publicly ordered McCarthy and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to oppose the investigation.

Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Democrats voted to form a select committee to investigate the insurrection instead. Only two Republicans joined them.

In contrast to the proposed commission, the committee will be controlled by Democrats, but the nearly unanimous Republican opposition has little to do with process. The GOP leadership can’t consent to a serious examination of a riot incited by Trump any more than the Continental Congress might have subpoenaed Thomas Jefferson to demand an explanation of his declaration. Rep. Liz Cheney, who voted for the committee and was subsequently seated on it, did so after being excommunicated from the Republican leadership for refusing to follow McCarthy and McConnell in abandoning criticism of the riot and its ringleader.

On Thursday, the day after the committee was formed — and shortly before the unsealing of a tax fraud indictment against the Trump Organization and one of its top executives — Trump issued a four-word statement: “Who shot Ashli Babbitt?” Babbitt was the Southern California woman fatally shot by a Capitol police officer defending members of Congress from her and other rioters as they breached a lobby adjoining the House Chamber. Trump’s propaganda haiku positioned her as the martyred hero of his nationalist holiday.

Thursday was also the day, as it happens, that six justices of the Supreme Court, half of them chosen by Trump, further eroded federal voting rights protections in the course of endorsing an Arizona law requiring certain ballots to be   thrown out . The ruling came amid a surge of voting restrictions in Republican-led states attempting to achieve the rioters’ ends by legislative means.

The high court’s message to those states? Have at it.

Opponents of Juneteenth commemoration disingenuously argued that it was meant to “ replace the Fourth of July .” But the true threat to the spirit of the Fourth emanates from those condoning, enabling and celebrating the destructive forces of the Sixth.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 weeks ago

Trump asked a question, he did not DEMAND an answer.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  dennis smith @1.1    4 weeks ago
Trump asked a question, he did not DEMAND an answer.

A question can be a demand.  What else have you got? 

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.2  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

A question is asking not demanding.

Any questions?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.2    4 weeks ago

According to some liberals, asking is demanding or suggesting now.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

Just like elsewhere here where some insist that Trump asking a question was making a suggestion that people actually do what the question was asking about.  Simply ridiculous.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago
A question can be a demand. 

A question is not a demand...it is a question.

Maybe you can show us a REAL example of a question that is a demand?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.6  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

Will you all please stop babbling? There are more creative ways to troll. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.7  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    4 weeks ago

Then please stop doing it

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.8  dennis smith  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

Comments 2-8 are expected examples of deflecting from the topic. Trump did not demand to know, he asked a question.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.8    4 weeks ago

Some folks confuse asking a question with demanding or suggesting.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.10  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    4 weeks ago
There are more creative ways to troll. 

You should know. You excel at it.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.9    4 weeks ago
Some folks confuse asking a question with demanding or suggesting.

The seed says Trump was "pleading for the identity of her shooter".

Plea: noun - a request made in an urgent and emotional manner.

I would say that asking the question "who shot Ashli Babbitt?" at a rally in an emotional manner could definitely be seen as pleading.

I have to say, I would like to know who shot Ashli Babbitt, cause that patriotic capital police officer deserves a medal.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.11    4 weeks ago

Pleading?

Possibly.

Demanding?

No.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.13  Krishna  replied to  dennis smith @1.1.2    4 weeks ago
A question is asking not demanding. Any questions?

Please clarify-- is that comment of your a mere question-- or are you actually demanding an answer?\

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Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Krishna @1.1.13    4 weeks ago
Please clarify-- is that comment of your a mere question-- or are you actually demanding an answer?

He's only "pleading" for an answer. It's not a demand, just down on the knees pleading for an answer...

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.15  dennis smith  replied to  Krishna @1.1.13    4 weeks ago

I did not demand an answer. Try reading with comprehension.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.1.16  dennis smith  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.14    4 weeks ago

Asking a question is not "pleading" unless one does not understand the English language. 

Your spin is noted.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 weeks ago

In a sense, trumpturd shot her.  It was his months of inciting that led trumpturd's dumbturd mob to do what they did.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 weeks ago
In a sense, trumpturd shot her. 

Jesus, who sold you that crap?

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.2.2  dennis smith  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    4 weeks ago

"In a sense" is nonsense. Just consider the source of 1.2 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago
Trump issued a four-word statement: “Who shot Ashli Babbitt?” Babbitt was the Southern California woman fatally shot by a Capitol police officer defending members of Congress from her and other rioters as they breached a lobby adjoining the House Chamber. Trump’s propaganda haiku positioned her as the martyred hero of his nationalist holiday.
 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

... mr. glock would be my guess. too bad mr. winchester-pump wasn't on duty at the time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

They weren't rioters.  They were DOMESTIC TERRORISTS . EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.  

 
 
 
Ender
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3  Ender    4 weeks ago

What gets me is people on the right making a big deal out of this yet when that rittenhouse ass killed two people they cheered him on.

Imo I think what happened here was it happened in a panic.

 
 
 
CB
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4  CB     4 weeks ago

Trump is picking up a distraction. It is what a detractor does. Look! Another 'shiny' object for you to go after and not focus on me. Gullible synchs galore!

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     4 weeks ago

This sign was on the fence at this Sarasota FL. rally. Fittings.

512

 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    4 weeks ago

Trump was still President of the United States for another two weeks after The Insurrection. If they would not tell him who the officer was then nobody working for Trump believed he could be trusted with the information. He would have gotten somebody else killed and put lots of innocent people in danger...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @6    4 weeks ago

He probably doesnt give a shit about the name of the cop who shot Babbitt.  But by making it a thing he makes himself look like a hero to his moron cult and also, should the name come out, it would provide a real distraction from his legal troubles for a little while. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    4 weeks ago

Seems to me he doesn't have to work very hard to look like a hero to his moronic cult

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

The issue isn’t really that the capitol cop isn’t known. The issue is that the identity of cops like the one who shot the knife wielding maniac who about to gut a girl are immediately broadcast to the public so assholes like Lebron James can terrorize them.

All cops identities should or protected until they are charged, or none. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 weeks ago

To Trump, the issue is that Babbitt was shot at all. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 weeks ago

It seems that the House Sargent at arms said her shooter was the same officer named as leaving his loaded firearm in a capitol bathroom recently.  

 
 
 
CB
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7.3  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 weeks ago

You're right in my opinion. That officer who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt should be publicized immediately. After all, he acted in the performance of his duties. Those who do not act consistently and with justification are acting without one, or both.

I do resist an assessment that Lebron James is a terrorizer. That is an ad hominem attack on him, in my opinion.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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8  Hal A. Lujah    4 weeks ago

The guy was standing in plain sight of this dumb bitch holding his gun in a manner that said come in here and you will get shot.  She came in anyways.  Good riddance.  Shooting this moron prevented a much larger breach.  Things could have been much worse than they already were.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    4 weeks ago

Seven seconds passed between the moment one of the rioters yelled out "he's got a gun" and the moment Babbitt tried to climb through the window.  I timed it one day. 

I guess her adrenaline overtook her hearing. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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9  Krishna    4 weeks ago

What I want to know is: Who shot Brer Wabbit?

 
 
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