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WI GOP Candidate for Governor: We Need "Good Christian Patriots to Take Over"

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  hal-a-lujah  •  3 years ago  •  62 comments

By:   Hemant Mehta (Friendly Atheist)

WI GOP Candidate for Governor: We Need "Good Christian Patriots to Take Over"
No. We. Don't.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



By Hemant Mehta July 22, 2021

Jonathan Wichmann is a Republican running for governor of Wisconsin, and when you're trying to claim an office recently held by Scott Walker, it's clear that the only way to win the GOP primary is by showing your base that you're extreme, ignorant, and Christian, in no particular order.

Wichmann managed to do it all in a speech he gave at a recent "Faith and Freedom Rally" in the state, explaining how Christians should take over the entire government.

After saying, falsely, that Donald Trump was still president, Wichmann explained why his Christianity drove his campaign. He then argued that if anyone demands proof that you've been vaccinated, you should shoot them. (Like a good Christian?)


"Looking at the political scene, I knew we were in trouble," he continued. "There are no truth tellers anymore in this country at the political level. We need to change that. We need good Christian patriots to take over and run for office, and that's what I intend to do."

"If something goes against your conscience; if you know because God told you — we're all created by God in his image, and God gave us certain rights that no man can trample on — if you know in your heart that something is wrong, that [what] someone is telling you to do is wrong, do not comply," Wichmann said, "It doesn't matter if there's a law on the table or not. Do not go along with that. That's your responsibility. If everyone does that, it all ends today. And if they try to press their luck, we have the Second Amendment."

It's telling that Congress is nearly 90% Christian already, but this idiot thinks that's not enough AND that they're all apparently liars.

It's also no surprise that Wichmann has no problem reconciling his believe that Christianity and morality are synonymous… and his belief that Jesus wants you to murder doctors and scientists for trying to save your life. That's what white evangelical Christianity has become for many people, and pastors are too cowardly to tell their congregations how ignorant they are.

If a Muslim candidate said anything half as batshit crazy as this guy, there would be nonstop fury from the Right. But Wichmann speaks in Christianese so this kind of extreme rhetoric only serves to boost his standing among Republicans.


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Hal A. Lujah
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1  seeder  Hal A. Lujah    3 years ago

Just shoot whoever you think is wrong?  If that were reasonable this guy would be dead by now.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1    3 years ago

looks like he's got the simpleton vote in his pocket...

 
 
 
Veronica
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2  Veronica    3 years ago
good Christian patriots to take over and run for office, and that's what I intend to do."

Huh, so much for religious freedom - I suppose he will favor killing or enslaving non-Christians.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @2    3 years ago

Yeah...let's just throw the First Amendment out the window

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    3 years ago

But isn't the First Amendment what allows that idiot to spew his garbage and infect others with those brainless ideas - like encouraging shooting people.(And if they try to press their luck, we have the Second Amendment.)

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.2  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Veronica @2    3 years ago

Naturally.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Veronica @2    3 years ago

It’s against religious freedom for religious people to decide to run for office?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3    3 years ago

I guess you need this explained to you.

Read this:

...  explaining how Christians should take over the entire government.

Now do you comprehend the infringement of religious freedom by those who want ONLY Christians running the government?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.3.2  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3    3 years ago

Are you seriously defending this cretin?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.1    3 years ago

It’s one thing to want it, another thing altogether to actually persuade voters in enough districts to gain such control.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.3.2    3 years ago

Yes.  He said to get involved and run for office.  He didn’t say run for office and then take over.  I have no problem at all with him urging like minded Christians to run for office from school boards to President. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.5  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.3    3 years ago

Is that your attempt to somehow defend what Wichmann said?  

By your ill-conceived logic there is no problem with anyone saying anything unless they actually accomplish it.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.3.6  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.4    3 years ago

And what do guns have to do with Christians running for government?  [Deleted]

 
 
 
epistte
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2.3.7  epistte  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.1    3 years ago

I wonder if Jefferson needs a refresher on Article-6 Section-3 of the US Constitution that forbids a religious test or denies people of others religions from public service such as elected office?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.8  TᵢG  replied to  epistte @2.3.7    3 years ago

Hi Epistte.   One must want to learn for learning to occur.

 
 
 
charger 383
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2.3.9  charger 383  replied to  epistte @2.3.7    3 years ago

Glad to see you back here

 
 
 
epistte
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2.3.10  epistte  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.8    3 years ago

Or be capable of critical thought and the ability to change when presented with new information.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.3.11  Gordy327  replied to  epistte @2.3.10    3 years ago
Or be capable of critical thought and the ability to change when presented with new information.

That doesn't seem likely to happen.

 
 
 
FortunateSon
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2.3.12  FortunateSon  replied to  epistte @2.3.7    3 years ago

True. No religious test to run for office.

But no law stops voters applying their own religious test when deciding who to vote for.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.3.13  Gordy327  replied to  FortunateSon @2.3.12    3 years ago
But no law stops voters applying their own religious test when deciding who to vote for.

True. But I can't think of a dumber reason to vote for somebody based on religiosity.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.14  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @2.3.13    3 years ago

Here is one:   Voting for Trump because you believe what Trump says.

He made Mexico pay for the border wall!  

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Gordy327
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2.3.15  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.14    3 years ago

Truer words never spoken. George Carlin was a genius.

 
 
 
FortunateSon
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2.3.16  FortunateSon  replied to  Gordy327 @2.3.13    3 years ago
But I can't think of a dumber reason to vote for somebody based on religiosity.

Fair enough. But religious people don't really care what you think about them.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.3.17  Gordy327  replied to  FortunateSon @2.3.16    3 years ago
But religious people don't really care what you think about them.

The feeling is mutual.

 
 
 
Ender
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3  Ender    3 years ago

Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war....

 
 
 
bbl-1
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3.1  bbl-1  replied to  Ender @3    3 years ago

Err, "Onward Lucifer's Soldiers............"

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @3.1    3 years ago

No we’re not asking secular progressives to run for office…

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    3 years ago

Religion or lack thereof should never be the benchmark for governance. It was not what our founders intended.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    3 years ago

Trumpism is a Satanic death cult.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.2    3 years ago

No, it shouldn’t.  Thus there is nothing wrong wrong with anyone of any background running for office and encouraging others likeminded to do so.  No religious test still applies.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.5  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.4    3 years ago
No religious test still applies.

it does when I vote. freedom from religion.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.4    3 years ago
Thus there is nothing wrong wrong with anyone of any background running for office and encouraging others likeminded to do so.

You are equivocating.   Wichmann did not simply encourage other Christians to run for office, he advocated an exclusively Christian government.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     3 years ago

Praise the Lord and pass the platter or ammo.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5  Trout Giggles    3 years ago
"There are no truth tellers anymore in this country at the political level. We need to change that. We need good Christian patriots to take over and run for office, and that's what I intend to do."

Some of the biggest liars I ever knew were Christians

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    3 years ago

Mike Huckabuck and Sarah Huckabuck Sanders...

 
 
 
devangelical
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6  devangelical    3 years ago

We need good Christian patriots to take over

...like those good xtian patriots in DC were trying to do on 1/6/21.

 
 
 
Hallux
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7  Hallux    3 years ago

A theocracy to the south of me? Yikes, can't y'all find another continent to mess up!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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8  Paula Bartholomew    3 years ago

What do you expect from a state whose residents wear foam cheese hats and consider themselves fashionable.

 
 
 
evilone
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8.1  evilone  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8    3 years ago

Hey! We aren't all cheese loving backward idiots.

 
 
 
Kavika
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8.1.1  Kavika   replied to  evilone @8.1    3 years ago

There is the Cheesehead mafia.

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Paula Bartholomew
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8.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  evilone @8.1    3 years ago

I know that.  I used to go to WI every winter for school.  I even met the guy who invented the cheese wedge hat on my flight back one time.

 
 
 
evilone
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9  evilone    3 years ago
Wichmann explained why his Christianity drove his campaign.

More like idiocy. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10  Tacos!    3 years ago
God gave us certain rights that no man can trample on — if you know in your heart that something is wrong, that [what] someone is telling you to do is wrong, do not comply

First, you probably shouldn’t pretend you have a heart. Second, Typhoid Jonathan, you don’t have the right to spread disease wherever you go.

"It doesn't matter if there's a law on the table or not. Do not go along with that. That's your responsibility. If everyone does that, it all ends today. And if they try to press their luck, we have the Second Amendment."

I’m no psychiatrist, but you might be insane.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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10.1  Gordy327  replied to  Tacos! @10    3 years ago

I would say your clinical analysis is correct.

 
 
 
CB
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11  CB    3 years ago

We need not blame Christianity for this man's worldview; Jesus was/is a great many things, a "patriot" is not one of those. Christian-nationalist is the proper name for this self--styled, "minister/pastor."

And, the Church is partially beginning to push-back and speak out against Christian-nationalists.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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11.1  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  CB @11    3 years ago

Jesus is apparently anything anyone wants him to be, good or bad, and utterly unconfirmable due to that whole ‘he doesn’t exist’ thing.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.1  CB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11.1    3 years ago
Jesus is apparently anything anyone wants him to be. . . .

Fine, if you do not want Jesus to exist for you Jesus does not exist. Are we good?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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11.1.2  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  CB @11.1.1    3 years ago

False.  He just doesn’t exist.  If he did exist and is somehow in charge of this shitshow, then he’s not the guy he’s described as.  What kind of creepy god sits back and watches his sycophants behave like this without doing something about it?  Is he too busy giving kids cancer?

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.3  CB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11.1.2    3 years ago

What does "creepy" have to do with Jesus? Are you prejudiced against Jesus? Since you say there is no Jesus - why such a shitty attitude? What's the non-existent Jesus ever do to harm you?

Since you 'hearken' back to it in a form, I was surprised that Jesus, the one of the Book, surrendered to death. I mean surrendering all that power to all that pain would give any human being pause.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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12  Trotsky's Spectre    3 years ago

1280

 
 
 
CB
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12.1  CB  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @12    3 years ago

This meme is doing a lot of "duty" so can you help me understand it's 'thrust'?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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12.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @12    3 years ago

Nailed it.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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13  bbl-1    3 years ago

So the christian dominionist wants to take over?  

Well, take over what............And do what with what?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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13.1  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  bbl-1 @13    3 years ago

Ultimately I think it something to do with women’s’ vajayjays and murdering the gays.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
13.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @13.1    3 years ago

Clarification is appreciated.  Thank you.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
13.1.2  CB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @13.1    3 years ago

I agree with you on this one. Women, homosexuals, and minorities simply do not have a 'home' in White Christian Evangelical heaven and that has big implications.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
13.1.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @13.1.2    3 years ago

Women and minorities most certainly do have a place in heaven.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
13.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @13.1.3    3 years ago

Just as long as they aren’t gay and act as baby factories right?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
13.1.5  CB  replied to  CB @13.1.2    3 years ago

Well let us start here. Why don't White Christian Evangelicals leave them alone to enjoy their freedoms in this nation?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
13.2  Tacos!  replied to  bbl-1 @13    3 years ago
Well, take over what............And do what with what?

It seems to me like politics these days is always about winning the election, and rarely about actually governing. So, to answer your question, I think they would do nothing.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @13.2    3 years ago

IMO it has been that way for decades now.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
13.2.2  CB  replied to  Tacos! @13.2    3 years ago

It's what happens when you have too much of a good thing! Stuff goes awry and indulgence. That is, it's all a complex game of looping self-defeatisms.

 
 

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