Another progressive power play
I have no use for Governor Cuomo of New York, but he is absolutely right about one thing - the "findings" released by the NY AG are political rather than real charges. How can that be you ask? There are no Republicans involved in this?
That is true, but one must understand New York politics. In New York there are only two meaningful political groups - hard core left democrats and moderate democrats. Please remember that State Attorney General Letitia James, after 11 months of investigating, has decided not the bring charges against Cuomo regarding "sexual harrassment." Instead she has released "findings" as bait for the NY State legislature to impeach Cuomo. Cumo is not going to resign because he has many allies in the State House and he has also appointed many judges in his time as governor.
Isn't it typical of progressives that the serious thing to them seems to be the sexual harrassment charges rather than the more important allegations that Cuuomo caused the death of so many in nursing homes early in the pandemic.
Late in the day yesterday Joe Biden who once said that if the allegations were ever proven Cuomo should step down, was asked about it. Biden seemed to act like the allegations had been proven and said "I think he should resign," though it clearly wasn't really the same as his position back in March when he said the democratic governor should resign if the AG investigation confirmed sexual harrassment claims made by multiple women. I don't think anything has been proven in Court, has it?
So that was the opnion of the top democrat?
This is probably what it looks like. They have somebody in mind to replace Cuomo.
I can only hope that once Cuomo realizes he's going down that he would be big enough to announce that he hasn't been accussed of anything different than what Joe Biden was accused of.
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So who are they pulling the strings for?
de Blasio?
or
Letitia James?
DeBlasio is out as mayor so he would be my guess as the one with the Governor ambitions.
He was asked if he was interested. He indicated that it wasn't off the table.
Maybe Cuomo will become a Republican. ........ Nah.
Multiple cases of sexual harassment? Looks great on his cover letter to the RNC.
The republicans? HAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a badge of honor with them.
I don't have "a guy" and if I did, he wouldn't be over there with you.
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If he was, it would certainly give new meaning to the term RINO...
Yeah Cuomo stole Biden's pervert defense..."I sniff every ones hair!" lol
Good catch!!!!!!
"I put my hand up everyone's blouse! What's the problem?"
Wasn't that something? He does not discriminate. He fondles & kisses the young and old, straight and gay, the powerful and the common.
Don't forget, that wasn't off the top of his head. They got word from somebody that the devious NY AG was about to release her "findings."
Somebody wrote that nonsense and he recited it!
Democratic party big shots are calling for Cuomo to resign to make it look like they care about his victims. If they really wanted him out they would be calling for his impeachment, but not a one is.
They know Cuomo isn't going to resign nor do they want him to. It's all a political shit show that they know will blow over and Cuomo will run for re-election and probably win.
Vic says there aren't any victims.
Vic says there needs to be due process, you know, the very thing Cuomo once wanted to deny Kavanaugh.
Funny how it all worked out.
Due process? Cuomo's accusations were thoroughly investigated, something that did not happen to Kavanaugh.
Where are the charges and the trial?
Is this what progressives think due process is?
Credible charges were investigated.
The investigation has been going on for 11 months. It has been concluded with findings released. The NY AG announced she will not charge Cuomo.
That is not due process.
How do you investigate "credible charges" when the investigators do not even talk to the people making the charges????
Neither the accuser, not the suspect were interviewed during the course of this "investigation".
The Me Too movement 'seemingly' tossed due process out the window .. all it takes is the suggestion of impropriety to destroy some careers - just ask Al Franken..! .. but others like Biden are given a pass to inappropriate touching .. Biden is on video being inappropriate .. only took a photo to take Franken done.. seems like accusations are taking Cuomo down
I do not care for Cuomo .. he ooozes cockiness, his daily updates during that initial COVID spike in NY were weird - but people across the nation could not get enough of him, wanted him to run for president etc ... now he is guilty without formal charges or a trial ... such is the climate in todays America politics. .. speculation and innuendo rule the landscape ..? not saying these women are lieing - far from it, but it seems any and everything can be interpreted as sexual harassment ...
Touch my breast without permission ya might lose a finger or 2 .. women have come a long way - but feeling powerless about unwanted advances needs some work .. remaining in a 'toxic' work environment makes no sense to me ..... trust me I know what a toxic work environment is all about, and I found a new job!
Cuomo's fall from grace is not very pretty and looks like it will only get worse - he now seems to be victim blaming a wee lil bit!
Good to see you Vic ... Peace
It's great to hear from you. You are not here enough. Your posts are based on logic & reason and I love how you kill 'em with kindness.
As for the "Me Too Movement", it kind of got hijacked by the left. It is true they started out by denying due process and it looked like they were going to use it against both parties, but it was destined to be short lived. The day Biden had an accuser it ended.
In the case of Cuomo. I believe the women and the families of those who died in nursing homes, but as you point out that is not due process.
As Mario Cuomo said "Politics is an ugly business." Never more so than now.
Cuomo should have cried the other day like Kavanaugh did. Then he'd have all the righties on his side anyway.
They are already hypocrites as they could care less about Gaetz being under investigation...
As do I ... yet in the same breath sexual harassment needs to be addressed on a criminal level, no more committee investigations that are opinion based, the case needs to be proven .. look at Cosby, he is now out of prison because someone chose not to bring charges - yet someone else decided to bring charges .. thus creating a violation of rights and due process .. !
The nursing home deaths should be thoroughly investigated .. if there are not criminal charges to file .. then civil suits should be brought against Cuomo personally as well as against the state, county, city and the nursing home operators .. those deaths are akin to murder!
Thanks Vic .. but if I was here very often my logic might go out the window and I could possibly get sucked into making belittling or insulting comments to others that love to insult and stir the pot .. : )
That is a weakness in American law. A technicality can change a case so drastically. Especially a case that has been proven.
The nursing home deaths should be thoroughly investigated .. if there are not criminal charges to file .. then civil suits should be brought against Cuomo personally as well as against the state, county, city and the nursing home operators .. those deaths are akin to murder!
I agree 100%. It's not going to happen. Merrick Garland won't do it. This is the era of the left. Some can get away with anything while others rot in jail for months without a trial. Our streets are unsafe and the nation overrun with migrants. Elections do have consequences.
Thanks Vic .. but if I was here very often my logic might go out the window and I could possibly get sucked into making belittling or insulting comments to others that love to insult and stir the pot .. : )
Nobody knows better than I how hard it is to maintain one's cool. However you do it, you are a good example for all of us.
One should never wave their right to a speedy trial .. I was watching a program where this man spent almost 2 years in lock up because the District Attorney kept requesting and getting extensions .. it takes money in this nation to get a fair trial [or so it appears to me] poor languish in something akin to a debtors prison while the rich bond out and walk free ....
Yes Vic .. elections have consequences ... the saddest thing about said consequences is that the moderates are fleeing DC - the extremes on both sides are gaining power .. mid terms are coming, going to be interesting to see which direction the wind will be blowing
Thanks again VIc ... my best advice is to read their comment, consider the source .. then post your conscience .. there are some individuals you just cannot reply to, as regardless of what you post, the grade schooler in them will twist your words to suit their opinion... then the group assault begin once you try to defend your position ... vicious cycle ...
Kill them with kindness is my mantra Vic .. one must try to stay above the fray
I'll have to work on that. To that end I'll watch a few old video tapes of John Charles Daly.
What charges are you specifically referring to?
Please tell me it isn't some of that lame-ass shit that Ford dribbled out!
What a nut she is!
What's my line? : )
You bet! Look at the way they treated each other!
As I always say, a sure way to tell that a person has lost an argument, is when they must resort to personal insults...
Buh-bye.
Wasn't a thing personal to you in my post.
Don't let your emotions rule you.
I want to say that 'it was a different, more simplistic time in America' .. that the norm was kindness and respect being shown to all in America...
Vic, it seems to me that everything comes down to principals, self integrity to treat others as 'we' ourselves what to be treated ... respect is earned, this I understand .. what I do not understand is why the viciousness .. even the holier than thou among us spit out hate .. I can no longer be apart of that, the snark or the one line wonders, never taking part in any form of discussion .. just tossing insults and vitriol toward someone that 'they' do not even know, yet still judge based on their own bias...
I have always enjoyed getting into a discussion with you - we may not agree, but I can always see where you are coming from ... when I do pop in, it is your articles that I comment on .. Hang in there Vic ..
Peace...
It sounds like we agree on most things.
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I didn't live in the south in those days. That was on them.
It's ok Kat. There are times when we need to vet.
Stay strong.
what a crock.
More like an understatement. Most of what's on these threads are not discussion. Many here can't discuss topics.
I see your point of view on most things, and I do not twist your words - so yes I can and do agree with you on many things ..
Fair enough, perhaps it 'was on them' .. my point was that a TV show is not an accurate barometer of how individuals actually treated others ...
HA! I think it is a game of 'likes' Vic ... individuals show up toss out insults get voted up even if their ignorance is showing, thus encouraging a repeat of the same behavior over and over again .. so there is no need to actually engage in friendly discourse as long as they get voted up for nothing more than drooling down their chin...
You're pushing it. It? A degree of chin drool comes to mind ... dribble away!
Well said. They should get a little nudge more often so others might contribute.
If you say so ... I guess a lil drool never hurt anyone, just do not bath in 'it'....
P.s... Hallux, you and I have had very similar conversation regarding vote ups / likes on more than one occasion
This is not a place where we, you and I, have conversations. Libertarian Monarchism is an alien concept in these parts. Speaking of which, tomorrow good ... 2ish?
As an aside, many a vote up is often just an acknowledgment that the comment was read.
Not even close:
Hi B ... after the things that you have been through .. you get to encourage bad behavior from time to time : )
Vic, I have been on internet forums since 2001. In all that time there is not a single person that I have shied away from having a "discussion" with, if I thought it was worthwhile.
I'm not sure there is a lot to be gained from having "discussions" with you. You continue to this day and minute to support the worst and most dishonest president in US history, and back up your support with uninformed opinion from the dregs of the internet.
You actually think people are afraid to engage you? I havent seen that from anybody here. Maybe they dont want to, but they are not afraid to.
2ish works for me .. I will be painting my room - should be a good time for a break ...
Alas Hallux .. this should be the perfect place to have conversation and exchange thought .. perhaps even thoughts [which is the plural of thought] : )
Hahahaha .. okay so are you saying that vote ups have to do with reading skills ... I read your comment .. so I should vote it up..? Here I thought it had to do with actually liking what someone had to say in said comment .. wow I have been doing this all wrong for years!
: )
Talk tomorrow..
Lol, ya, internet forums are soooo brutal, lol.
It sounds like you missed the point completely. We are talking about acting like adults, not antifa members.
And I'll bet you thought how to deliver that insult long and hard.
Not at all, it was an immediate reaction to your melodramatic comment.
It was the customary thinly veiled insulting remark that I have come to expect from you.
Stay strong, buddy !
Good afternoon lady. Hope all is good with you and yours up in the great Northwest. Yeah, many years ago someone tried to touch my late wife in a inappropriate manner in a hardware store. She decked the guy over a paint can display, broke his jaw in two places, and dislocated one if his shoulders. The manager saw it all and called the police right away. The police said there was no need to charge me wife and said she acted in self defense. The perp tried to sue my wife when he got out of the hospital. The judge threw it out plus the DA refused to prosecute. Judge told the perp to leave town. My wife was normally a very mellow and laid back person and actually felt bad for the perp but said he should have known better. This happened in the mid 70's.
My name's not buddy. We get tickets for that!
Some people do. Others get a pass.
Yep.
Due process doesnt really apply to public opinion, and pressure to resign is based on public opinion.
You don't do 11 month investigations to influence public opinion (or to prosecute designated enemies.)
Andrew Cuomo is innocent, his brother says so.
Then there is the very real crime of the nursing home deaths. I don't think that one is going away. If he stays put, a lot of moderate Dems might decide to vote for someone honest and toward the middle.
Merrick Garland declined to investigate it. That is where the country is now.
Looks like Andy Cuomo, 2020 Covid idol, NY's celebrated "Luv Guv", author, and Emmy winner, has been hiding for the past couple of days. Maybe he's getting legal counsel from his "baby brother".