The Denigration of American Citizenship
"Biden proposed in his immigration plan released this week that Congress should make available $15 million to cover the costs of private lawyers for “families and vulnerable individuals,” with another $23 million to cover legal orientation programs administered by the Justice Department."
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2021/08/02/biden-ups-the-ante-proposes-millions-to-pay-legal-fees-of-illegal-aliens-n420092
Please note: If we allow this to happen it will most likely never be taken away. Joe Biden made a deal with the devil to become president. He has opened the southern border and in a very ritualized way debased American citizenship and Americans themselves. Joe Biden recently invited a group of illegal immigrants to the White House and his top domestic policy advisor Susan Rice left a message on social media saying that those illegal aliens are "Americans." Then she went on to say that we will fight to secure their future.
The message from the current government is clear: That you as an American citizen are unworthy. You are not entitled to the defense of your laws or the maintenance of your heritage, nor to be treated with priority over the citizens of any other country. In fact your needs are to come last. That is the policy of the extreme left now in power. For the first time in our history we have a government that is openly disloyal and distainful to and of it's citizens.
Since the election which was compromised by a deadly pandemic and partisan election rule changes, we have had been left with nothing short of a totalitarian regime pushing this radical agenda. Such a government depends on censorship and intimidation to keep the people in line and we have seen plenty of that.
Massive illegal migration disenfranchises American citizens economically, socially, culturally and it leaves them feeling helpless & hopeless. For example after decades of Americans voting on immigration policy, we have reached the point where whatever little has been achieved has been thrown out the window. The message for the third world is clear: America no longer has a southern border and free health care and housing and education are waiting. All that is required is a vote of thanks to the democratic party.
Today's question: How many of you knew that Biden was planning to offer tax payer funded legal aid to illegal migrants?
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It would be the first time taxpayers have covered such an expense. It would set a precedent.
With regard to immigration. Biden is all about bad precedents.
This country needs to be run for benefit of it's citizens not foreigners
It's too late now. The block voters and a handful of suburban elitists sipping on their Chardonay have spoken.
Well, seriously, when the U.S. Citizens, who are voters, finally get tired of all of the give-a-ways and BS this and other administrations keep pushing down our throats - maybe, just maybe, they'll take to the voting polls their disgust with our government.
The United States has a long history of providing legal defense in criminal cases. So, this aspect of providing legal counsel is neither shocking or particularly alarming.
This action to provide legal counsel for immigration hearings does appear to be a shift toward making immigration hearings a criminal court proceeding rather than a civil court proceeding. The United States does not have a history of providing legal counsel for civil and administrative court proceedings.
If there is a precedent here, then that precedent is to make illegal immigration a criminal offense. Now that shift needs to be codified into law. But with a Congress incapable of governing that may be an impossible task. This Congress has shown it is incapable of handling the most basic aspects of governing, such as the debt limit.
Immigration courts are neither civil OR criminal.
Unlike civil and criminal courts which are under the US Judicial Branch, Immigration courts are under the DOJ.
I don't think the part you highlighted in bold means what you think it means.
In fact, I'm positive.
HT/ Inigo Montoya
Which is moot. The point is that the Biden administration is requesting funds to provide private legal counsel to illegal immigrants and funds for an orientation program, I presume for attorneys. That's a shift toward treating immigration hearings as criminal proceedings rather than civil proceedings.
That shift toward criminal proceedings should be codified into law which would utilize the existing pubic defenders offices that are already funded by the government. We already have a public defenders system, we don't need to create another one.
Are you actually positing that the fact that your quote is moot that my calling out that fact is moot?
First of all, I note that you FINALLY admit that your proclamations are actually presumptions.
Secondly, the DOJ orientation program is nothing NEW and has NOTHING to do with funding attorneys. Get educated.
The name 'immigration court' should have provided a clue but, no, you got it completely wrong.
Good, you proved me wrong. Now I leave it to you to explain why taxpayer money is being used to teach illegal immigrants how to game the system. You're the expert, after all.
Article III federal courts which have jurisdiction over cases concerning criminal offenses, ... are not considered part of the immigration court system. "
Why do you think it's incombent on ME to explain YOUR proclamations Nerm?
Do we pay the lawyer costs of those that want to legally immigrate to the US? Why should illegals get the benefit and not those that follow our laws? Because the illegal immigrants will vote Democrat once they are granted amnesty and made US citizens.
Democrats will need to change their mantra from "Vote early, vote often, vote Democrat". To "Vote Democrat; otherwise your vote doesn't matter".
If the illegals that dems turn into voters have half a brain they will see dem policies pushing this country toward becoming a third world shithole and vote against them. One can hope anyway.
That will happen. The radical policies of the left go against every single value these people cherish.
It will take a generation for their children to recognize it.
I expect nothing less from Ms. Rice. She's a pro at twisting the truth. Remember what she said about Benghazi and Bergdahl?
Although it's a big manipulative twist of a definition, Rice is "technically" correct this time. Illegal aliens from North, Central, and South America are "Americans" - just not in the same way the term is typically understood and accepted. That still doesn't explain the illegal aliens from 150+ other countries.
Yeah Vic, because the normal demographic of families seeking asylum and unaccompanied children is people with money. Biden isn't asking to represent all of them, that would cost half a billion, just the most vulnerable.
It is a precedent. If we allow it, it won't be long before we pay for all of them - the important people.
For well over a decade, most illegal aliens have not qualified for political asylum. They've come to our southern border for economic reasons, not because their lives were threatened in their countries of origin.
2019 had an approval rate of 46,000 out of 210,000 applications (22%) - and the two leading countries were China and Venezuela.
Thanks for the stats, 1stwarrior.
Interesting, but irrelevant. We have laws that govern asylum seekers, and we have courts that enforce those laws. Biden is making no change there. Countries in Central/South America are pretty volatile, and they seem to collapse into chaos regularly. When that happens lots of people come north. In fact, asylum factories pop up because people try to take advantage of the situations. What we've repeatedly done is hire lots of judges to expedite the process, and we switch to last in, first out processing because so many applications are fraudulent and we don't want to distribute the people into our population.
It's become clear that US citizens and legal immigrants will be required to show "vaccination documents" in order to go to school, work, shop, eat at restaurants, etc., while the current Marxist government allows tens of thousands of unvaccinated, Covid-positive illegal aliens to go wherever they want and do whatever they want.
This is nonsense. Biden refused to bow to pressure to stop the Title 42 public health evictions of immigrants started by Trump. In fact, it was just renewed, I think because of the delta variant. About 500,000 have been tossed out using Title 42 during Biden's presidency.
Again, nonsense. The Biden Administration pushed maximally for vaccination but was stopped by conservatives and their media's instilling of vaccine hesitancy in their base, apparently in an attempt to hurt Biden by sacrificing conservative lives. They've just recently begun to abandon that strategy. We could have been out of danger from COVID, but, you know, blah, blah, blah, my constitutional rights... Conservatives are the ones who don't give a shit about their base's lives.
Border encounters doubled from 2018 to 2019, then dropped by half during COVID. Now, encounters are on track to double over 2019. Biden is dealing with a much bigger problem, and expanding enforcement is not an instant process. But judges have been hired, more resources given to border patrol & protection. Interestingly, there are about 45,000 agents, and have been 1.2M encounters this year. If you divide that up it's about 5 people per agent per month. It seems like it should be something we can handle. Perhaps we need some sort of major overhaul... Perhaps conservatives should consider doing something about immigration instead of the nothing they normally do.