What The Democrats Need To Do Now
I'm not going to write a long prescription to get the Democrats on the path to victory , and I'm not even going to claim a unique take. I've heard tv and internet pundits saying this from even before last Tuesday's Virginia election.
The Democrats will pass some version of both the infrastructure bill and the social spending bill. It may not be all everyone wanted but it will be bigger than most social spending programs in the past and there will be a number of things in there that appeal to most Americans. Polling has consistently showed this. They need to talk this up for the next year.
That is the first part.
The second part is also simple, and probably more important. The Democrats need to push the investigation of the Trump campaign's traitorous post election behavior to the hilt. They need to make the Jan 6 committee public hearings must see tv. They need to go after Donald Trump. Nothing short of that will exorcise Trumpism from our politics. This needs to be a major production. They also need to attack right wing media and the right wing conspiracy factories, and do so on a constant and continuous basis. We need to take back our messaging and take back our country from these wacko traitors and mental misfits.
One of these two paths would not do it, but both in combination will.
Oh , one more. They need to fight against right wing America's desire to demonize the true teaching of American history as regards race. To this point the Democrats have been pretty silent in pushing back against the "anti-crt" information, and that needs to change too.
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Point out the many benefits of the Build Back Better legislation that will soon pass Congress, and attack the Republicans on their absurd fealty to the criminal ex president. And do it all the time. And push back strongly on the right wings attempt to dictate a whitewashed version of American history.
Then we win.
I thought it was the left wing that was trying to whitewash American history by removing statues and renaming facilities.
Call everyone racists, give tax breaks to the rich. The Democratic playbook.
Even an economic advisor to Obama can't believe what they are doing on the SALT Tax loophole:
"Just the value of this 7.5K increase to the original $72.5K cap is larger than the entire child tax credit expansion for a middle-class family with two children. And this increase alone will go almost exclusively to households making over $1 million. Why are they doing this?"
Oh the SALT tax loophole. ok.
Donald Trump is the biggest political criminal in American history. He needs to be presented to the American people as such, and I dont even think it would be hard to do.
Many Democrats adopted a live and let live stance toward Trump following Biden's inauguration , hoping he would fade away. He is not going to fade away, and certainly not prior to next years mid terms. There is already more than enough uncovered information to show that Trump is a traitor against America. What needs to be done now is it needs to be weaponized and presented to the American people on an ongoing and constant basis until Trumpism is gone. Without the Build Back Better passage people could object to attacking Trump on the basis that doing so was ignoring doing something positive for the American people, but soon it wont be possible to say that.
Half the time talking up the benefits of Build Back Better, and half the time burying Trump. The Democrats just need more fight and energy.
I agree, they should spend half their time taking responsibility for that progressive tax grab and the other half focused on Trump. I'm sure that's a winning proposition.
Of course Republicans and conservatives dont want Trump's traitorous behavior exposed. They are depending on the Democrats being milk toast about it.
This makes absolutely no sense. The Democrats need to stop playing by the right wing playbook and go on the offense.
Explain what those two things have to do with one another.
I suspect any actions by the Ds will simply embolden the current Trump supporters. After all, it is not as if the Trump supporters are unaware of what Trump did; they want him back in spite of his abysmal character. And those who somehow are NOT aware are not going to listen (obviously) to any reason.
Expect the Trump supporters to dig in. No change. But this might dissuade the few non-Trumpers who might have considered Trump. I do not think many of those creatures exist. Seems to me we have those who will vote for Trump no matter what and the rest of the electorate who likely would not give Trump a second chance. I do not think that will change by D actions.
Seems like the only way to be sure that Trump will never be POTUS again is for him to be convicted of a crime that would prevent it, so the Dems had better apply some WD40 to the creaking wheels of justice if they want to be sure.
Seems like his supporters (those who remain today) will support him no matter what.
You know Buzz, if they had any real proof, they be doing it already... (and it would be posted all over the internet)
At this point a firehose of WD40 wouldn't work....
The Democrats have been far far too meek in pursuing Trump, and others, over the travesty they made of our last national election. They have made themselves look weak to their own constituency. Why cede the stage on this issue to Trump and the lapdog Republicans in Congress? The American people arent "tired" of this issue, it has never been presented to them as a matter of grievous national security.
What we have now is a previous presidency that INTENDED to immorally and probably illegally seize control of a government that it had lost in a fair and free election. I dont know how many people understand this but Donald Trump intended to , at the least, disenfranchise tens of million of voters , on the basis of nothing but his own lies and desires to remain in office no matter what. He was offered a plan to have Pence either declare him the winner of the election on the basis of not counting "contested" electoral votes (there were no "contested" electoral votes. In order for there to be contested electoral votes there would have to have been alternate slates of electors in various states sent to Congress) , or failing that, Trump wanted the Congress to send the election back to the states where he intended to coerce republican majority statehouses to declare him the winner of their states election based on, nothing but his personal desires.
In the course of intending all this utterly immoral behavior Trump incited a deadly riot at the capitol , where his enraged followers intended to intimidate Congress into following Trumps plan to steal the election.
This is all national disgrace at the very highest level. The mainstream media has been derelict in the way it has presented these events to the American people. This was a far bigger story and scandal than Watergate or any other previous American political scandal. Has it been presented as such to the American people? Of course not. The Democrats need to do that now. And it will help them get rid of Trump and win the mid terms.
By itself it would not have, but in conjunction with good economic news and the passage of the spending bills which will help tens of millions of Americans it will.
Most Americans don't give a flyin' fuck about about this so called scandal.
The recent election results should made that clear
How is it possible for people to not know this? Anyone who cannot recognize what Trump did at this point is not going to be influenced by facts and reason. My concern, John, is that there are countless millions who fall into the category of entirely unreachable. They will support Trump no matter what. Take an unnamed member here as your exemplar for this group. Do you think that this individual will ever, under any circumstances, drop his "love" of Trump and recognize the reality that I quoted from you above? I do not.
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote except for your expectation that a greater push would be effective on existing Trump supporters. It would, however, likely influence those who are not paying close attention and help ensure that they never consider supporting Trump. I just do not have a good feel for how many people are in that set.
Do you consider that to be a good thing?
Do you support Trump for PotUS?
Democrats have been far far too meek in pursuing Trump, and others, over the travesty they made of our last national election
You imagine not enough of an obsession with Donald Trump is what drove independents to the Republicans?
Traitors at heart dont. I do agree with that.
I dont think I said a greater push on Jan 6 would convince Trump voters. I do think it would help the Democrats win next year, and a Democrat win next year would go a long way towards ending Trumpism.
We dont, or shouldnt , decide what is right or wrong based on what the criminals fans think about it.
The mainstream media has done an immense disservice to the country by downplaying what Trump did in December and January. Our society is so disconnected from political reality by the deluge of lies, fantasies, conspiracy theories and just plain old fashioned bullshit that the right has subjected the nation to for the last 6 or 7 years that nothing is taken seriously any more.
We have to stop this disastrous trend.
Sean,
I think you got that wrong. This from Forbes:
Study Confirms Big 2020 Takeaways: Biden’s Gains With Suburban Voters, Independents, Won Him Election
KEY FACTS
Biden won 54% of suburban voters, a 9-point increase from Clinton’s performance in 2016 (45%), the study —based on a survey of 11,818 people conducted November 12 to November 17—found.
While Trump won white suburban voters by 16 points in 2016, he edged out Biden by just 4 points with the same group in 2020 (51% to 47%).
Independent voters swung to Biden by a 9-point margin (52% to 43%) in 2020, a major shift from 2016 when Trump won the bloc by one point over Clinton (43% to 42%).
The vote was anti-Trump.....not pro-Biden
Greg,
Maybe... But that says a lot, too.
I'm talking about what happened last week and the current state of polling, not what happened in 2020. Republicans haven't made massive gains because the Democrats are too soft on Trump.
Sean,
I think what happened is all this CRT BS mixed in with mask mandates freaked out suburbanites. Add to that a great turnout from the Republicans and it was a win for Team Red.
Winning one state election is not "making massive gains".
The Democrats need to make the insurrection , led by Trump and supported by, particularly afterwards, major republican Party figures, a major if not the major national political issue. Right after the insurrection most Republican leaders blamed Trump in very strong language. As soon as they saw he had no intention of fading away they changed their tune and now support his potential 2024 candidacy. This is absolutely disgraceful and the Democrats need to make a major national issue of it.
The problem is not that Trump did nothing wrong, or the insurrectionists did nothing wrong, the problem is there hasnt been enough outrage over it. We are living in a degraded nation.
Regardless, there is no evidence that Dems not talking about Trump enough somehow led to voters flocking to Republicans.
Plus 7 on the generic Congressional Ballot is an absolutely massive switch in a year.
McAullife tried the Trump Trump Trump card. I hope Democrats nationwide do the same
Sean, I have no idea what you are talking about. I never made such a claim. I only correct the idea about indies, since I thought we were talking about the presidential election.
I still stand by the comment that this election was driven by CRT BS mixed in with mask mandates. Talking about Trump is a folly. Hopefully, he will just disappear.
Donald Trump has psychological malfunctions dating back to his childhood. Mary Trump, a trained psychologist, has talked about this.
Trump is addicted to attention. The only attention level he will accept now is a presidential campaign. Only serious illness or the justice system will stop him from running again, imo.
Sure winning statewide elections in a plus 10 Democratic state, almost winning the governorship in a plus 15 Democratic state, seeing Biden's approval rating crater to the low 40s, with the republicans enjoying leads in the generic congressional ballot is exactly where we were in November 2020.
If the midterms were held today the Republicans would picks up dozens of seats in the house and control the senate. If you don't think that's a massive change from where things were in January, I can't really help you.
ed to make the insurrection , led by Trump and supported by, particularly afterwards, major republican Party figures, a major if not the major national political issue
How well did that Trump obsession work for McAullife? Everyone knows what happened. Repeating the same thing over and over isn't going to change anyone's votes especially as it recedes into the past. People care about what effects their lives, not that Trump wanted to engage in a stupid legal challenge of the election and sat back and didn't do much as a riot occurred. Everyone who cares knows what happened and has already factored it in.
It would be like the Republicans deciding the only issue the Focus in 2022 should be the Steele dossier scam and the Democrats corrupt manipulation of the FBI. Bad as it was, it's not going to drive independents to the polls years later.
eean, I have no idea what you are talking about.e
The article. The point of the article is that dems need to focus on Trump. I addressed that. Not sure how that's confusing.
I only correct the idea about indies, since I thought we were talking about the presidential election.
And I'm talking about the situation now.
Talking about Trump is a folly.
Yes, that's my point.
Donald Trump tried to steal the election. He wanted to steal the election. He intended to steal the election. Somehow, but not surprisingly, that fact didnt make it into your paragraph.
One can say he had little to no chance of success, but that is hardly the point. If America wasn't such a degraded nation right now, ethically, this story would have dominated the news for the past year .
Ridiculous, for numerous reasons. But check in with Vic in a few months. He may be going for it.
It's not just CRT. It's the whole package. It's the loud angry militant leftist mob screaming about the peripheral issues that most Americans don't believe in. It's the perception that Biden is a lot more feeble than we thought he was and is not going to be able to keep the Woke Mafia in check.
It's about people getting fired, banned, and canceled for "misgendering" somebody. It's about excusing absolutely any behavior as long as the perpetrator claims to be supporting some leftist cause. It's about demanding that all white people wear sackcloth and ashes while they whip themselves for racism that happened 200 years ago. It's about mandating masks and high-level Democrats appearing in public without them. It's about changing the math curriculum to make sure it includes lessons about racism, and it not really mattering because they ignore any math they don't like anyway.
Hell, most people don't even really know what CRT is. It's just become the current 3 letter phrase representing stupid levels of oppressive woke, replacing BLM and OWS before that.
James Carville knows what he's talking about.
Actually a great idea.
That should ensure Republican majorities in both House and Senate. Gridlock will be restored, the government will stop doing stupid things, the rest of us will get on with our lives and the economy will boom. I like it.
Maybe this short promo can help you regain some clarity in your thinking.
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Timeline of the coup: How Trump tried to weaponize the Justice Department to overturn the 2020 election
January 6 timeline: How Trump tried to weaponize the Justice Department to overturn the 2020 election - CNNPolitics
By Marshall Cohen
CNN Illustration by Alberto Mier
Updated 7:04 AM ET, Fri November 5, 2021
Washington (CNN) A full year after the 2020 presidential election, new details are still emerging about former President Donald Trump's unprecedented effort to overturn the results.
Big-picture summary of the coup attempt
Timeline of Trump's efforts to abuse the DOJ
Can we increase "Let's go Brandon" to include every last damn Democrat, their media shills, and sheeple? It needs to be done. They can wear it like a badge of honor; because they have all earned it.
Once again Democrats can't read a fucking poll to save their lives. Individual components of their social engineering reconciliation bill are popular. Know what is not popular? The bill as a whole; especially the tax increases to the lower and middle class; the hyper inflation it will cause (even Manchin is warning about it; of course the left is to damn stupid to listen); the immigration reform (the fact it does nothing for border security); and ending the SALT tax cap (how fucking stupid are they that they are going to increase taxes; yet end one that directly affects only millionaires and billionaires- the very damn people they pretend to want to tax to pay for everything).
Seems that the left hasn't learned anything from their staggering losses in Virginia. Voters don't give a fuck about Trump anymore. Making everything about Trump is a losing proposition; but by all means keep on doing it. While the left is fixated on their rampant TDS; Republicans can remind the thinking public that Biden still has US citizens, green card holders, and special VISA holders that he abandoned in Afghanistan that he has done jack shit of nothing to to rescue (his administration has done a bang up job of hindering the rescue efforts of private organizations). People also need to be reminded constantly of the wide open southern border; otherwise known as the single largest super spreader event on the planet; that Biden has done nothing to solve. They also can remain laser focused on increasing gas prices, inflation, and the lack of basic necessities for purchase in the US. If that isn't enough the Biden vaccine mandate is going to force millions of critical workers out of the workforce- when unemployment is already high- and there are millions of jobs to be filled.
Clock is ticking to midterms Brandons. You missed your wakeup call in Virginia. Your worst nightmare comes true when the alarm goes off and Republicans assume power in the House and Senate.
Overstating accomplishments and attacking opponents is politics as usual; that's not a strategy. Democrats are hoping to fool the voters once again.
Democrats cannot develop an overarching strategy simply because that would require throwing some in their coalition base under the bus. The Democratic coalition base are promoting things that are contradictory and cannot be reconciled within the party. The best Democrats can accomplish is small incremental legislation that panders to each special interest within their coalition base. The so called Build Back Better effort is a mishmash of small giveaways directed toward very specific interests within the Democratic coalition of true blue supporters.
Build Back Better isn't directed towards independents and independents is where the next election cycle will need to focus attention. Independents are not seeing Trump and Jan. 6 as particularly relevant to what is happening. Trump has not been promoting the defunding of police or promoting a one sided anti-racism agenda. Trump was the one who increased taxes on the rich that Democrats have devoted themselves to repealing. Trump wasn't the President that mandated vaccination as a condition of employment or education. Trump wasn't the one that determined full vaccination is inadequate and opened the door for never ending need for boosters. Trump isn't the one that delayed vaccination for children. Trump tried to be upbeat with a positive outlook on the pandemic; Biden certainly has not been upbeat and has only delivered a dark and dire outlook on the pandemic that will never end.
After months of brinkmanship, Democrats still have not passed any Build Back Better bills to send to the Senate for reconciliation. There hasn't been any accomplishments on that front, only promises. The Democratic House stalled the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed by the Senate for months to leverage those promises. And Democrats really think independents don't understand that sort of dirty politics?
Democrats turning out their base won't win the next election cycle. The Democratic base, like the Republican base, is simply too small to win elections; particularly when turnout is high. The 2022 election cycle will be all about independents. And it appears that independents likely will not sit out the election. Red meat for the Democratic base won't be as persuasive as Democrats are deluding themselves into believing.
What The Democrats Need To Do Now?
They need to get the FBI to find Ashley Biden's diary quickly, oops it's already been published. Is it normal to shower with your dad when your 14?
Sure, they were just conserving water and saving the planet.