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Republicans Take Aim At Whole Constellation Of Privacy Rights

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  2 years ago  •  26 comments

By:   Kate Riga (TPM)

Republicans Take Aim At Whole Constellation Of Privacy Rights
"When you want that diversity to shine within our federal system there are gonna be rules and proceedings that are gonna be out of sync with maybe what other states would do," he said. "It's the beauty of the system — that's where the differences among points of view in our 50 states ought to express themselves." When asked further if he was really saying he'd leave the legality of interracial marriage up to individual states, he said yes.

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Senate Republicans don't have the votes to take down Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, but they've used her confirmation process to broadcast their intention to roll back decades of civil rights progress.

In public remarks, leading Republicans have almost casually and with little fear of political recrimination begun to relitigate same-sex marriage, contraception and interracial marriage. With a robust 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court, the GOP's ambition to rework the privacy jurisprudence underlying many of the civil rights gains of the last 60 years isn't idle aspiration but a very real threat.

If Republicans retreated on gay marriage over the past decade, it was a tactical retreat only. They've renewed their focus on 2015's Obergefell v. Hodges, the case that established the right of same-sex couples to marry. Senate Republicans characterized it as precedent wrongly decided, as an unenumerated right spun out of thin air.

"They've been targeting Obergefell since the day it was decided," David Cohen, a professor at Drexel University's Thomas R. Kline Law School, told TPM. "The right-wing legal movement has never moved on."

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Some other case fixations that surfaced during the Jackson confirmation, both inside and outside the hearing room, shocked legal experts in a way that the calls to overturn Obergefell didn't.

One of those was Griswold v. Connecticut, the case that established a right to privacy related to the use of contraceptives. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called the 1965 decision "constitutionally unsound" precedent.

More shocking a position still came from Sen. Mike Braun (R-IN), who, speaking to a conference call of local reporters, argued that the case legalizing interracial marriage nationwide, Loving v. Virginia, should be overturned.

"When you want that diversity to shine within our federal system there are gonna be rules and proceedings that are gonna be out of sync with maybe what other states would do," he said. "It's the beauty of the system — that's where the differences among points of view in our 50 states ought to express themselves."

When asked further if he was really saying he'd leave the legality of interracial marriage up to individual states, he said yes.

"That's something that if you're not wanting the Supreme Court to weigh in on issues like that, you're not gonna be able to have your cake and eat it too, I think that's hypocritical," he added.

He later walked back the comments, claiming not to have understood the question which was posed to him in two different ways.

The senators aren't waiting for the fall of Roe v. Wade, expected this summer, to question other rights, many of which flow from a similar understanding of the privacy and personal autonomy the Constitution grants.

"What's shocking about it is that it's a direct attack on the idea of substantive due process and the whole constellation of privacy rights," said Jessie Hill, associate dean and professor at Case Western Reserve University School of Law. "No one made an attempt at pretense, that abortion is different or that same-sex marriage is less traditional — it reveals the extent to which this was a full-frontal attack on all of those concepts."

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The hearings marked a change from how the mainstream right-wing legal movement has talked about these cases.

In the banner case Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, expected to be the forum where the Supreme Court overturns Roe, the state of Mississippi at least gestured in the direction of arguing that overturning Roe does not necessarily mean overturning Griswold.

"Consistent with these points, Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965), on which Roe relied and which applied the most expansive approach to the right of privacy among pre-Roe cases, finds grounding in text and tradition," the state writes, contrasting it to Roe's supposed groundlessness.

While some experts found this argument weak — it's "completely unconvincing," Hill said — it shows that the norms accompanying a right the public has become accustomed to over 50 years compelled them to at least pretend that Griswold isn't threatened.

The imminent death of Roe seems to have moved that Overton window.

While opposition to Griswold may strike listeners as stunningly antiquated, it does have seeds in some of the more rabid right-wing movements. Some hardcore anti-abortion groups have been calling for its fall in the same filings where they primarily advocate for overturning Roe.

But Braun's opposition to Loving is something else entirely.

"Loving was a shock," Cohen said. "You're not supposed to say that out loud even if you believe it, which hopefully very few people do. It was this great moment in Supreme Court history that solidified the commitment to end the Jim Crow era."

If the point though, as Hill posits, is to roll back the civil rights gains of the 20th century, this is the natural progression.

To some Court watchers, it's less a question of whether this universe of rights is on the chopping block and more how soon they will be.

"The big question in my mind is whether the Court lurches quickly to the right with broad rulings that have widespread implications—for example by holding there is no right to privacy, which would call into question not just abortion rights, but also the right to sell and use contraception and perhaps even legal protections for LGBT—or whether they will whittle away at these rights over several years," Doug Spencer, associate professor at the University of Colorado Law School, told TPM.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

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Snuffy
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1.1  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

Not all Republicans but a sizable number to be sure.  However I think their outspoken vocals outsize their numbers, but extremists usually do.

And none of this I'm afraid is new. There's a piece of the Republican party that has been against gay marriage, probably a piece that is still against mixed marriage. A chunk against abortion.  The list goes on and on.  I do wish they would hold more true to the statements of live and let live... 

But I do wish you would stop broad-brushing.  It's not the entire Republican party just like it's not the entire Democrat party that follows what AOC says...   It's the extremists who are the loudest that tend to drown out anybody else.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    2 years ago

A large part of the Republican party these days is extremist. That is the boat you are missing. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 years ago

No it's not...and you can't prove otherwise. Painting with such a broad brush weakens the point you're trying to make.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 years ago
A large part of the Republican party these days is extremist.

I think the extremists are just a fairly large minority.  The problem is that the centrist republican is just a terrified little mouse that will go along with whatever the extremists want.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to    2 years ago
Seems to be a Centrist Democrat problem since 2020.

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Tessylo
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1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to    2 years ago

Projection, deflection, denial - you're referring to the gop/gqp/trumpturd supporters.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to    2 years ago

Nothing to see because that's not happening.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.10  Tessylo  replied to    2 years ago

You should stop sticking to that same out schtick.

You obviously DON'T GOT IT

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    2 years ago
It's not the entire Republican party just like it's not the entire Democrat party that follows what AOC says...   It's the extremists who are the loudest that tend to drown out anybody else.

I totally agree.  Both parties have their extreme members and I believe they constitute the vast minority.  Unfortunately they are the vocal minority and they are trying to convince Americans that they are the future of their party.  To make matters worse the moderates in both parties seem reluctant to tell the children to sit down and shut up while the adults try and do the business of the country which includes (heaven forbid) compromise.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to    2 years ago
Same OLD Schtick. Got it.

It is like a greeting card you get from the dollar store, good for any occasion but lacking in any actual substance.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    2 years ago
Nothing to see

There is never anything to see when eyes are closed

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

Isolated lunatics do not define or describe the Republican party. You employ this tactic of posting cherry picked extreme examples quite often, to little effect.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 years ago
Isolated lunatics do not define or describe the Republican party.

" Here's a theory: Satan-worshipping pedophiles running a global sex-trafficking operation control the U.S. government, media and financial institutions. A storm is coming to sweep away the elites and restore the rightful leader of the country. And things are so off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save the country ."

" It's a pretty out-there view of the world, acknowledges Natalie Jackson, a researcher with the Public Religion Research Institute, which surveyed Americans on the central views of the conspiracist QAnon movement."

" But a quarter of Republicans agree with those sentiments , according to  a PRRI report  released Thursday that was based on data from four separate polls it conducted. So does 16% of the population as a whole – or, Jackson notes, about 44 million people ."

They are clearly not "isolated lunatics", they are a core part of the Republican party.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.1    2 years ago
They are clearly not "isolated lunatics", they are a core part of the Republican party.

Careful, you are not allowed to say that on Newstalkers.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2  Ronin2    2 years ago

So the Democrats need some cover for their pedophile loving Supreme Court nominee; and have dragged out the normal racial and abortion BS to try and and get everyone to look away.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 years ago

Don’t forget that she eats babies and worships Satan too.  Always be cognizant of the crowd you are pandering to.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3  Drinker of the Wry    2 years ago

Mike  Braun is obviously an idiot.  I think that it only took several hours before he tried to walk back his comment on Loving, “misunderstood a line of questioning that ended up being about interracial marriage.”

WRT states rights, someone should ask him why do we  have federal senators legislation for the entire country? Doesn’t his laws interfere with states’ rights?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3    2 years ago

I just can't imagine any state, even Mississippi, overturning Loving. That would just reek of racism and Jim Crow

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    2 years ago

Completely agree.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4  Thomas    2 years ago

I really do not think it possible for interracial marriage to be overturned. I mean, just look at Justice Thomas.

And Contraception? That horse has left the barn long ago and I cannot see any way to return it. 

Sounds like some white nationalist, fevered ultra-right christian wet dream to me. 

 
 

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