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Obama tweets to save face after embarrassing Biden video surfaces

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 years ago  •  206 comments

By:   Lawrence Richard (Fox News)

Obama tweets to save face after embarrassing Biden video surfaces
Former President Barack Obama tweeted support for President Joe Biden shortly after an embarrassing video emerged from a health care event the two hosted earlier in the day.

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Former President Barack Obama tweeted support for President Biden Tuesday evening shortly after an embarrassing video emerged from a health care event the two hosted earlier in the day.

Obama visited the White House, for the first time since leaving office in 2017, where he and Biden hosted a health care event in which they touted the Affordable Care Act and discussed options for making health care more affordable.

The former presidential duo was united again under the White House roof, but pictures and videos of the event showed people adoring the former president, even to the detriment of the man currently serving in the White House.

A particular video from the evening, which is being widely shared online, shows a somewhat embarrassed Biden seemingly wandering around the room alone while Obama is crowded with people eager to speak with him.

"Literally no one wants to talk to Joe Biden," the Republican National Committee said on Twitter, sharing a 13-second clip from the event.

"This is so sad," the RNC added, with another 25-second video similarly showing people walking up to speak with Obama and shake his hands while skipping Biden.

During the event, immediately before the RNC video, Biden is in the group with Obama, Vice President Kamala Harris, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and others before he leaves and appears to be searching for someone in the room.

Former President Barack Obama (C) and President Joe Biden greet friends and guests at the conclusions of an event to mark the 2010 passage of the Affordable Care Act in the East Room of the White House on April 05, 2022, in Washington, D.C. ( Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

After a brief moment, Biden then stops, turns back to gauge how busy Obama is, and then turns and gestures to Interior Secretary Deb Haaland to join him on the stage. She does, and the two then walk back to Obama, who appears to say he will walk over to them later. Biden and Haaland return to her seats and greet other guests .


This is so sadpic.twitter.com/pb959HYIQy — RNC Research (@RNCResearch) April 5, 2022

Shortly after the video began making its rounds online, the former president praised Biden in a tweet.


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WASHINGTON, DC - APRIL 5: U.S. President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama attend an event to mark the 2010 passage of the Affordable Care Act in the East Room of the White House on April 5, 2022 in Washington, D.C. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

"Always great catching up with @POTUS. Thanks for all you're doing to help even more Americans get access to quality, affordable health care," Obama tweeted.


Always great catching up with @POTUS. Thanks for all you're doing to help even more Americans get access to quality, affordable health care. https://t.co/vDYBIxjIy9 — Barack Obama (@BarackObama) April 6, 2022

The event was undoubtedly scheduled with the former president to be a much-needed win for Biden, who faces scrutiny for record-high inflation, soaring gas prices, and blame for not doing more to end the war in Ukraine that has lasted over 40 days.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

It was sad to watch, but Obama was right. Nobody wants to be tarnished by him.


Speaking of tarnishing, please note that all quotations are in the proper places, before I am falsely accused of plagiarism or racism or any other outrageous, slanderous slur.


And when they need to call in Obama, you know they are in deep doo-doo!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago

What's wrong with asking Mr. "Obamacare" himself to attend a White House program:

Obama visited the White House, for the first time since leaving office in 2017, where he and Biden hosted a health care event in which they touted the Affordable Care Act and discussed options for making health care more affordable.

And a signing of an executive order - mark the 2010 passage of the Affordable Care Act in the East Room of the White House on April 5, 2022?

Some conservatives have lost valuable credibility. It sucks seeing a political party so 'petty-ass.'

"Literally no one wants to talk to Joe Biden," the Republican National Committee said on Twitter, sharing a 13-second clip from the event.

Big-ass LIE. Now, it's obvious that the RNC is a propaganda 'mouthpiece.' Pitiful. Any group of people (in their right mind) would not dare to propose that a sitting president would be purposely ignored in a room of people. Since, by definition, his safety, calls for everybody to be cognizant of where he is and what he is doing.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2  goose is back  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago
It was sad to watch,

It is truly amazing, the person that got the most votes in HISTORY, and no one wanted to talk to or even acknowledge him.  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.2.1  CB  replied to  goose is back @1.2    2 years ago

In all your getting, get understanding. Read and peruse the link (at the designated spot) @6.2. :)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  goose is back @1.2    2 years ago

When you look at that film it's mindboggling when you consider that Biden got more votes than Obama.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2  Just Jim NC TttH    2 years ago

A "Where am I?" moment..........

Poor Joe......................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    2 years ago

It sucks being Joe, but that's what happens when you rule from the left, cause unbridled inflation, flood the country with illegal migrants and demonize hard working Americans.

All the worst to him!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 years ago

All untrue.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    2 years ago

You're sticking with Joe?

Obama is embarrassed by him, maybe even Joe's wife (the former VP as Joe called her) may feel it too.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    2 years ago

Oh, it's true. Unless of course you have no access to the outside world and don't know what's happening right outside your door. Of course, some DO refuse to see what's right in front of one's nose. Once again, to quote an old friend of mine, "Ideology spoils the view"

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.3    2 years ago

Your usual projection.  

Typical.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    2 years ago

I stick with winners.  What's your excuse?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    2 years ago

Your usual denial. 

Typical.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    2 years ago

He's a winner?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    2 years ago

no...............just "Not Trump" LMAO

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    2 years ago

He beat Trump; that is all that matters to the TDS stricken. The fact that Brandon is a hot mess as President is not their concern.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.3    2 years ago

P.S. It's not true.  Not at all.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.8    2 years ago

Yup, Biden beat every man who ever ran for the office. All it took was millions of mail-in-ballots.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.12  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.9    2 years ago

Right now he couldn't beat Jimmy Carter.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    2 years ago
All it took was millions of mail-in-ballots

Yep. True, very true

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    2 years ago

"Yup, Biden beat every man who ever ran for the office. All it took was millions of mail-in-ballots."

Said by someone who mailed in their ballot.  All other voters were deemed lazy or not valid.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.14    2 years ago
"Yup, Biden beat every man who ever ran for the office.

I'm glad that you agree. Now just do me a favor and think about Joe Biden getting more votes than any other presidential candidate in history.

Give it a long hard thought.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.15    2 years ago

Vic, people hated your boy Trump. That is why Biden got so many votes. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.16    2 years ago

That's why Biden won in a landslide and why the majority of trumpturd supporters are such bitter losers and hanging on to anything to detract and deflect from their loser hero, #45.  Such desperate and bitter clingers.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.15    2 years ago

You put words in my mouth - why are you quoting me saying something I didn't say?

Now I'll wait for the dodge and another deflection.  

Quoting you IS NOT AGREEING WITH YOU.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    2 years ago
I stick with winners.

So let us know when you start.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.1.21  arkpdx  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    2 years ago

I think what he is is spilled W I E N E R

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.22  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.15    2 years ago
I'm glad that you agree. Now just do me a favor and think about Joe Biden getting more votes than any other presidential candidate in history.

That's because trump was really that bad. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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3  Hallux    2 years ago

Yep ... this was big 'news' over at FOX along with other relentless dissing of the usual squirrels last night such as poutrage over Stacey Abrams earning speaker fees and a host of dog whistles about child porn for the Q crowd ... Pizzagate redux. The Ukraine? Not a whimper.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.1  pat wilson  replied to  Hallux @3    2 years ago

Right wing "news" sites gushing over a 13 second video clip. Rather pathetic.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @3    2 years ago
this was big 'news' over at FOX along with other relentless dissing of the usual squirrels last night such as poutrage over Stacey Abrams earning speaker fees and a host of dog whistles about child porn for the Q crowd ... Pizzagate redux. The Ukraine? Not a whimper.

This begs the question how much fox do you watch, and why since you don't seem to like a word they say?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4  afrayedknot    2 years ago

“Not a whimper.”

The dizzying chasing of ‘tales’…

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @4    2 years ago

Note how at comment 5  - the referral to President Biden as Brandon!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1    2 years ago

Note how in 2.1.18 former President Trump is referred to as trumpturd.

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Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    2 years ago

It is kind of hard to watch. Can’t say I have ever seen anything quite like it regarding a president.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6    2 years ago

I'm sure it was!  jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    2 years ago

Yes yes. Heaven forbid anyone should see anything less glorious than the sun itself shining out of Biden’s ancient ass.

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.2  CB  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    2 years ago

Damn! I tried to get my comment in before "this" happened. I failed. Oh well, do get the proper context anyway. I posted my comment @6.2 before I read this 'commentary'!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    2 years ago

"Can’t say I have ever seen anything quite like it regarding a president."

How did you endure President Biden having 13 seconds of nothing to do?

Compared to the endless blunderings of whatshisname I'm not surprised you pounced on this.

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    2 years ago

Yeah, CAN'T SAY I HAVE EVER SEEN ANYTHING QUITE LIKE IT REGARDING A PRESIDENT!

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CB
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6.2  CB  replied to  Tacos! @6    2 years ago

Whoever chopped this video apart should be ashamed, but I am sure they will not be! Here is the link to C-Span full video:

Clip in Proper Context:

Start: @37m 20s

Now judge for yourself and others can too.  Is the RNC (or whoever did "this" responsible for creating a 'lying' perspective? Yes or No?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  CB @6.2    2 years ago

I’m sorry, but are you telling me you expect me to sacrifice 37 minutes of my day on this story?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.2.2  CB  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    2 years ago

No, begin at ("jump to") 37m 20s in the video clip! That is not 37 minutes of 'anything.' Besides I consider you a truth seeker, so why balk? Do what you need to as to be properly and adequately informed!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  CB @6.2.2    2 years ago

37:20 is just Joe at the podium finishing up his speech. The parts where he’s sort of wandering around aimlessly, or when he can’t seem to get Barack’s attention happen later.

We can discuss how important all of this is, but any objective observer (in my opinion) has to concede that Obama is working the room much more effectively than Biden is.

The scramble to “save Joe” over this story is sillier than the story itself.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.2.4  CB  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.3    2 years ago

Are you kidding me? I explicitly stated, "begin at ("jump to") 37m 20s in the video." I'm disappointed in you. Don't tell me, you are going to pull that "I don't understand what you mean" shit this black guy gets around here?!

Surely you can see Biden signs his executive order and IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS he gets up from being the center of attention, shakes a few hands and the milling around begins. And yes, they are all 'working the room' that is how it is done.

Why am I having to make sense and explain the obvious?!

One more thing: Barack and Joe or Joe and Barack, if it needs to be stated respectfully, are FRIENDS. Equals. They don't play the "deference" game, because they don't have to do it. I can't believe I have to write this!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6.2.4    2 years ago
Don't tell me, you are going to pull that "I don't understand what you mean" shit this black guy gets around here?!

You are receiving those comments because of what and how you post, not because of the color of your skin.

Stop playing your race card.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.1    2 years ago

Anything to pounce on Joe and the usual nothingburder provided by the usual folks.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.2.7  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.5    2 years ago

That's a sack full of it. And I will not expend time going back and forth with you. (1) of (3).

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6.2.7    2 years ago
That's full of shit.

Sorry, but it simply is the unvarnished truth of the matter.

And I will not expend time going back and forth with you.

I didn't ask you to respond, so blame yourself.

(1)of (3).

Is that significant to you in some way?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.2.9  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.8    2 years ago

 That's not substance. And, my discussion did not call for a 'go-between.' Tacos! Can handle his own replies and rejoinders. (2) of (3).

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  CB @6.2.9    2 years ago

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goose is back
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6.2.11  goose is back  replied to  CB @6.2.4    2 years ago
begin at ("jump to") 37m 20s in the video."

This video is also edited multiply times starting at the 41:00.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.2.12  CB  replied to  goose is back @6.2.11    2 years ago

A C-Span full video is edited? Please explain what and how you mean.Oh I see you mean the parts that are 'cut out' as just long periods of people 'milling'? Really? You're going to read into that (the 'flashes' begin after parts which these people are outright mocking anyway). C'mon people. Who are we anymore?

 
 
 
goose is back
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6.2.13  goose is back  replied to  CB @6.2.12    2 years ago
parts that are 'cut out'

That's called an edit.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.2.14  CB  replied to  goose is back @6.2.13    2 years ago

Okay, take a 'victory lap.' You've earned it!  /s    Now, about the substance of the video, . . . does anything about the moments in the video connect with your experience at social functions? If so, you may have solved the mocking question of the day! If not, well. . . I suggest more social events by your 'planner.'  (Smile.)

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  goose is back @6.2.13    2 years ago

Sure, and an edit can enhance a video by removing unnecessary parts.   By the same token, an edit can misrepresent what actually happened by removing parts which are necessary to get a correct representation of what took place.

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
6.2.16  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @6.2.15    2 years ago
By the same token, an edit can misrepresent what actually happened by removing parts

These were time edits, nothing was misrepresented, what you saw took place.  It's not like edits that have been done to change the context of what someone said. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6    2 years ago

Fox News Doctored Clips of Obama’s Visit to the White House to Make It Seem Like Biden Was Lost

Ryan Bort
Wed, April 6, 2022, 12:43 PM
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Joe Biden,Barack Obama - Credit: AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster

Barack Obama   visited the White House for the first time since he left office on Tuesday. He was there to celebrate the 12th anniversary of the Affordable Care Act, as well as to watch President Biden sign an executive order aimed at improving the law. Obama’s return created plenty of commotion, and for   Fox News   and the rest of the right-wing ecosphere, a fresh opportunity to cast Biden as a weaker, watered-down version of the former president.

The Republican National Committee shared two clips of the visit that quickly went viral. The first shows an ostensibly confused Biden ambling around the stage as Obama holds court behind him. The second is similar, with Biden standing on the periphery as Obama greets well wishers.

The clips even made it onto the Fox News primetime slate. “Biden doesn’t know what on earth he’s doing or, at times, where he even is,” Lauran Ingraham said as she played the first clip. Tucker Carlson played the second, along with a “King Obama” graphic depicting the former president wearing a crown and a menacing scowl. “Make it stop,” Carlson said. “It’s awful.”
The only problem is that both clips were taken out of context. Biden does look a little confused in the first clip, but it’s only because he’s looking for someone, perhaps Interior Secretary Deb Haaland, whom he brings up onstage to applause shortly after the conservative media cut ends. The second clip ends right before Biden gets Obama’s attention and introduces him to someone. Twitter user @acyn helpfully attached the full clips to the end of the Fox News segments lambasting the edited versions.
Newsmax got in on the action, too. The network on Tuesday ran a “PRESIDENT OBAMA 2.0” graphic  along with a bizarre chyron about how Biden and Obama are “beta males.” It also showed the clips, both with similar deceptive edits. “At one point he’s just walking aimlessly through the room,” an on-air commentator said on Wednesday morning. “It’s really sad. He doesn’t know where to go.”

“This is a lost old man. This is when I pulled out the 25th Amendment,” another added before arguing that the 25th Amendment, which allows for the removal of the president from office if they’re unable to discharge their duties, could be in play before 2024. “I believe it is if the evidence continues to mount that President Biden is actually incapable of performing his job,” she said.

Biden’s effectiveness as a president is up for debate, but conservative media feeling the need to doctor video clips of the president proves there isn’t as much evidence that he can’t do the job as they’d like there to be.
 
 
 
CB
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6.3.1  CB  replied to  Tessylo @6.3    2 years ago

Such despicable people. I am so sick and tired of their deceitfulness. You can't trust anything they utter, print, or 'clip.' Of course, now it is a part of their "catalog" of bull patty to discuss (and mock) ad-nauseam.  Like animals, they piss on everything!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6.3    2 years ago

Rolling stone................................hahaha of course

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.3.2    2 years ago

I know you have a problem with the facts and the truth.

You're welcome.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.3    2 years ago
Fox News Doctored Clips The only problem is that both clips were taken out of context.

“Taken out of context” is not the same as “doctored.” If context is the “only” problem, then they weren’t doctored.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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6.3.5  MonsterMash  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.3.2    2 years ago

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Tessylo
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6.3.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.3.4    2 years ago

There you are - not caring again!

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Vic Eldred
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6.3.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.3    2 years ago

Showing clips is not doctoring.

doctoring in British English

( ˈdɒktərɪŋ )
NOUN
the act of making different in order to   deceive ,   tamper   with,   falsify , or   adulterate






 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.3.8  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.6    2 years ago

Keep going. Your comedy is entertaining. 

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.9  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.3.8    2 years ago

Still don't care?

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Tessylo
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6.3.10  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.3.4    2 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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6.3.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @6.3.4    2 years ago
“Taken out of context” is not the same as “doctored.” If context is the “only” problem, then they weren’t doctored.

It is funny that they use an inaccurate false term in trying to describe a news outlet not being truthful in reporting.  I find it hard to believe no one saw the hypocrisy of their own staff.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @6    2 years ago

Biden kind of reminds me of Herbert from Family Guy.  Only thing missing would be the walker.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Just looked at this "smoking gun" video of Biden being "ignored"

The "embarrassment" belongs to those who think this is a thing. 

 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 years ago

@6.2 is a fuller video and one can 'jump' to the relevant section of a C-Span video of the ceremony. :)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 years ago
Just looked at this "smoking gun" video of Biden being "ignored"

We will leave all the smoking guns to you, after all you seem to have extensive experience with them via all of your "This will put an end to Trump" articles.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 years ago
The "embarrassment" belongs to those who think this is a thing. 

Not as embarrassing as all the people that are so triggered by this that they feel the need to flock in and defend Joe rather than just let it go.  Don't worry, I am sure MSNBC and CNN will edit a video to make some republican look like a baby eater commie any minute now and you will all feel better.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    2 years ago

Hmmm.  Didn't hear Biden or Obama call anyone or any country a, "Shithole."

What is the problem, Vic?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1  arkpdx  replied to  bbl-1 @8    2 years ago

Those countries that were called shit hole countries richly deserved that title and more. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  arkpdx @8.1    2 years ago
Those countries that were called shit hole countries richly deserved that title and more. 

If you're a Trumpster. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.2  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    2 years ago

If you are a rational human being. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.2    2 years ago

Maybe someone thinks you are a shithole person. Are they rational?

The people who live in those countries probably dont think they are shithole countries. Most of them think they are home. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.4  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    2 years ago

I am not a trumpster at least not by your definition. I did vote for him twice because he was the best nominee in the race. Fortunately for the US he beat the first Dem he ran against and it is sadly apparent that the joker that beat him is not competent to hold the job and is bringing the country to ruin.

Trump's policies were far better than Brandon's. He secured the border far better. Now the borders open and God knows that criminals and disease riddle people are sneaking into the country.

Trump was in the process of deporting people already ordered out of the country by the courts. Biden rates of deportation are lower than they have been in decades. 

Under Trump the US was energy independent and a net exporter of energy. Biden has to beg for oil  from other countries including our enemies, Iran and Venezuela. He can not even get our supposed ally, Saudi Arabia to bail him out. 

During Trump's term Putin and Xi  we're both quiet as was north Korea. Brandon can not say that. 

Trump nominated three excellent people for SCOTUS. 

Trump move the Israel embassy to Jerusalem where it belongs. 

He fast tract the COVID vaccine with Operation Fast Track. 

Before COVID wages were on the way up. Fuel prices were down and inflation was low. Minority employment numbers were at 50 year highs 

He got other NATO nations to start paying their fair share. 

Trump may have a bad personality but his policies were top notch and and he got things done. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.4    2 years ago
I am not a trumpster at least not by your definition. I did vote for him twice because he was the best nominee in the race.

Oh please,  for fuck's sake. Trump was never, even for one second, fit to be president of the United States. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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8.1.6  afrayedknot  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.4    2 years ago

“I did vote for him twice…”

…rendering any further comment moot. The guy is an asshole, not one anyone could share a beer, much less consider as a leader. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.4    2 years ago

www.factcheck.org   /2022/03/examining-u-s-energy-independence-claims/

Examining U.S. 'Energy Independence' Claims - FactCheck.org

6-8 minutes   3/9/2022


When politicians say that the United States was “energy independent” under former President Donald Trump, some people may get the false impression that the U.S. was 100% self-sufficient. The country still relied on foreign sources of energy, including oil.

To help meet domestic demand, the U.S. has  imported  oil and other forms of energy from abroad, including from Russia, for many years. And to  some energy analysts , a scenario in which the U.S. relies only on the energy it produces is not likely to happen anytime soon.

Instead, those who tout this so-called “energy independence” may be referring to the fact that, on net, the country either  produced  more energy than it consumed,  exported  more energy than it imported, or, more specifically,  had a greater number  of exports than imports of petroleum, which  includes  crude oil and refined products from crude oil, such as gasoline and various fuels.

However, by any of those definitions, the U.S. was still “energy independent” in 2021 under President Joe Biden — contrary to claims made by Republicans who have suggested otherwise.

Net Energy Exports

“We were energy independent one year ago,” Trump said in a  March 2 interview  on Fox Business, in which he criticized Biden for not mentioning what is happening with oil in his State of the Union address, for example. 

He added, “We were exporting energy for the first time ever in the history of our country,” falsely implying that that had never happened before and had ceased since he left office. (He made a  related claim  about energy in his keynote address at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February.)

Trump is   one   of   several   Republican   politicians   to claim   or suggest that Biden ended the “energy independence” America needs to stop relying on Russia for oil, as well as to combat rising gasoline prices, which reached an average  weekly price of  $4.10 for a gallon of regular gas  on March 7. 

Notably, the  price of gasoline  actually has been rising fairly consistently since the end of April 2020, when it was selling for $1.77 a gallon, the lowest weekly price under Trump. By the time he left office in January 2021, the price was already up to $2.38 a gallon.

Also, the U.S. was buying oil from Russia in 2020, and for many years before. For instance, Russia accounted for   7%   of total U.S. imports of petroleum in 2020 and   7.9%   of those imports in 2021.

In response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Biden signed an executive order on March 8 blocking new U.S. purchases of Russian oil, liquefied natural gas and coal. It allows for a “45-day wind-down period” for orders already under contract,   according to a senior administration official .

GettyImages-1279815736-532x355.jpg Freight train with oil tankers at dusk in Texas. Photo by Luke Sharrett/Bloomberg via Getty Images.

As for Trump’s suggestion that the U.S. was “exporting energy for the first time ever in the history of our country” when he was president, that’s false. The country  has been supplying international markets  with various forms of energy for decades.  The former president presumably meant to refer to net energy exports during his administration.

U.S. exports of primary energy did exceed its energy imports from foreign sources under Trump in 2019 and 2020 — the first times that had happened since 1952,  according to  the U.S. Energy Information Administration. 

But through the first 11 months of 2021, the U.S. also was on its way to being a net exporter of energy last year — and, thus, by that definition, “energy independent.”

All forms of energy combined, the country exported 23.0 quadrillion British thermal units of energy in that time span, which was more than the 19.6 quadrillion BTUs of energy it imported,  according to  the EIA’s latest monthly figures. 

In those same 11 months, the U.S. also produced 89.0 quadrillion BTUs of energy, slightly more than the 88.5 quadrillion BTUs of energy it consumed.

The U.S. also produced more total energy than it consumed under Trump in 2019 and 2020.

Net Petroleum Exports

Trump also may have been thinking of net petroleum exports, since he mentioned oil multiple times in the Fox Business interview. 

In 2020, the U.S.  exported  about 635,000 barrels per day more than it imported from other countries, “making the United States a net annual petroleum exporter for the first time since at least 1949,”  the EIA has said . At the same time, the U.S. continued to be a  net importer of crude oil , specifically, as it has been since the 1940s.

The trend line for the U.S. becoming a  net exporter of petroleum  began in 2006, under President George W. Bush, and continued under President Barack Obama and then Trump. The EIA said a decline in the global demand for oil during the COVID-19 pandemic finally pushed the U.S. into net exporter territory.

“International petroleum prices decreased in response to less consumption, which diminished incentives for key petroleum-exporting countries to increase production. This shift allowed the United States to export more petroleum in 2020 than it had in the past,” the EIA wrote in a  February post  on its website.

More important, the EIA said the U.S. “continued to export more petroleum (which includes crude oil, refined petroleum products, and other liquids) than it imported in 2021.”

Last year, the U.S.  exported  about 164,000 barrels per day more than it  imported , according to annual EIA data.

The EIA does project in its  March Short-Term Energy Outlook  that the U.S. will import slightly more petroleum than it exports in 2022, making it a net importer for the year. But that is not a certainty.

In February 2021, the EIA also  projected  that the U.S. would be a net importer of petroleum for the year, which, based on the EIA’s most recent data, turned out not to be the case.

However, if the EIA’s most recent projections are accurate, the agency also estimates in the same report that the U.S., as soon as 2023, would once again be a net exporter of petroleum, or, based on that definition, “energy independent.”

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.5    2 years ago

He is and was more fit than Biden could ever hope to be and don't even get me started in hattis

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.9  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.3    2 years ago

I guess that is why so many of them want to leave them and come here, because they are paradises. 

Oh an no those people are not rational

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.10  arkpdx  replied to  afrayedknot @8.1.6    2 years ago

I don't want to have a beer with him ( BTW neither one of us drink alcohol) I want him to carry out the policies just as he did. You don't have to be liked to be a leader you just need to get things done. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.10    2 years ago

On the day Trump won the 2016 election , he was a known pathological liar, crook, bigot, moron and cheat. And you voted for him. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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8.1.12  afrayedknot  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.9    2 years ago

“…they are paradises.”

…reboot? Day drinking is fine, but never too late to call it a day. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.13  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.11    2 years ago

Yup because for all of that he was better than the Witch of Chapaqua, Hillary Clinton and far better than Let's Go Brandon. 

 
 
 
JBB
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8.1.14  JBB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.13    2 years ago

Didn't Hillary and Joe get millions more votes?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8.1.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.11    2 years ago
On the day Trump won the 2016 election , he was a known pathological liar, crook, bigot, moron and cheat. And you voted for him.

I think you're forgetting that to his poorly educated sycophants all of Trumps faults, as monumental as they are, are considered 'features', not bugs. Many right wing conservatives love the fact that Trump is a liar, crook, bigot, cheat and moron, especially if it pisses off the "libs" they despise so much for not kneeling down and licking white right wing conservative Christian boots. For them nothing could be better than an uncouth misogynistic liar leading their party and 'owning the libs' with his bombastic unfiltered loose rectum spraying right wing conservative filth on everything in its vicinity.

When Trump called Mexicans rapists and drug mules they cheered, when Trump called our African nation allies "shitholes" they cheered, when Trump said he just "grabs" women he finds attractive "by the pussy" they cheered. I'm not really sure what trying to reason with such miserable worthless pond scum would achieve, and if getting a political win requires pandering to such gutter trash then the 'win' is utterly pointless.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.16  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @8.1.14    2 years ago

So? the popular vote is irrelavent and in Clinton's case it did not matter so what's your point?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.17  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.15    2 years ago
especially if it pisses off the "libs" 

Well that is a big plus but I voted for him in 2016 because he was not Hillary and I would have voted for anyone or anything in the known and unknown universe and any parallel universes that might be out there. 

I voted for him in 2020 because I strongly approved of the things he got done and the policies he had. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8.1.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JBB @8.1.14    2 years ago
Didn't Hillary and Joe get millions more votes?

Don't remind them. Right wing conservatives hate being reminded that they're a minority in America. They prefer believing they're some gigantic 'silent majority' which of course is just code for "I think there are a helluva lot more white conservative Christians out there who want to preserve 'Our' white conservative Christian culture and nation and will never embrace ideas like 'diversity' and 'equality' for all, not when they know there is a WAR going on between the righteous and the unrighteous!".

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8.1.19  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.17    2 years ago
because he was not Hillary and I would have voted for anyone or anything in the known and unknown universe and any parallel universes that might be out there. 

So I take it the misinformation campaign, the conspiracy theory crazies and the utter nuts did their job in painting Hillary as worse than death for many conservatives. Sure, none of their unhinged conspiracy theories were true and Hillary has never even been charged with a crime let alone accused of more than two dozen sexual assaults and the rape of a 13 year old, but she was clearly the most maligned candidate from 2016. Not even the greasy slimy fat disgusting misogynist tub of lard bragging about what a "star" he was and how he just goes around grabbing women by the pussy and moving "like a bitch" on married women, not even that could overcome the unhinged unproven bullshit lies that had been spread about Hillary.

Frankly I didn't like Hillary much, she was just another career politician, but she had actual government experience and was capable of rational thought unlike her opponent and his vast sea of poorly educated minions. So while I believe Democrats could have done much better, the fact that Republicans won with such a monumental loser is just sad. Sad for both parties and the biggest loser in the 2016 election was clearly America itself.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.15    2 years ago
I'm not really sure what trying to reason with such miserable worthless pond scum would achieve,

I agree, but at the moment I'm really just amusing myself. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.21  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.19    2 years ago
So I take it the misinformation campaign, the conspiracy theory crazies 

Well I never listened or watched MSNBC OR CNN so I would know about that. 

none of their unhinged conspiracy theories were true

I guess that why both she and the DNC we're fined for the "Steele dossier". 

Trump was never charged it convicted of any crime. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.22  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.20    2 years ago

I agree, but at the moment I'm really just amusing myself. 

Exactly, pleasuring one’s self with cheap amusement is better than no amusement, eh JR?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.23  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.22    2 years ago

Are you trying to dog me? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.23    2 years ago

Dog you?  I like dogs, but I was just agreeing with you.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.25  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.24    2 years ago

Oh, you went out of your way to agree with me. That's encouraging. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.25    2 years ago

I’m glad that we got that cleared up,

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.27  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1    2 years ago

You know what? This country is a type of shithole too! We stink and smell to 'high heaven' with all this divisive nonsense we feed and poop. This country is one big nauseating vomit right now! All this power for what? To be 'gas bags' worth a dime a dozen!

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8.1.28  bbl-1  replied to  arkpdx @8.1    2 years ago

Last I checked, Mar-a-Lago, Bedminster nor Trump Tower are countries.  Although I agree they richly deserve the 'tag' you've bestowed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    2 years ago

Those countries populated by their fellow human beings.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.15    2 years ago

I love your oh so apt descriptions of the trumpturdians.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.22    2 years ago
"I agree, but at the moment I'm really just amusing myself."
"Exactly, pleasuring one’s self with cheap amusement is better than no amusement, eh JR?"

What is it that you do here DOTW?  

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.32  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.27    2 years ago

If you don't like it you can always leave. I hear North Korea may be nice for you. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.33  arkpdx  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.28    2 years ago

Boy.that was about as funny as the photos coming out of Ukraine these days. 

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.34  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.32    2 years ago

Or you, we, can cooperate and be smarter than fifth graders. Stop embarrassing the children! You think? Oh and this is not your country to suggest anybody leave home. Fix your part in this 'shithole.'

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8.1.35  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.21    2 years ago
I guess that why both she and the DNC we're fined for the "Steele dossier".

They were fined because they misreported the money spent on opposition research. They were not fined in any way because of the content. The facts show that a large portion of the dossier was true, the rest were suppositions that couldn't or weren't proven true, but that's because the Steele dossier wasn't a conclusions document but a "here's what we know so far and here's what we suspect" document.

Trump was never charged it convicted of any crime.

And neither was Hillary. What's your point? The Trump organization was fined far more by the FCC than the DNC or Hillary were. His foundation was closed down and fined millions, his university was shut down and fined $25 million, Trumps attorney went to jail for paying half a million in campaign money (which was misreported to the FCC) to multiple porn stars to keep them quiet during the campaign, but apparently some small minded weak little grade schoolers who pooped their pants want to claim that the $8,000 that Hillary was fined due to improperly reporting campaign spending is the proof they've been waiting for to finally "get" Hillary. It would be laughable if it wasn't so damn sad, it's hard to imagine what mental squalor those who believe such nonsense must be living in.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.36  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.35    2 years ago

Mental squalor.  LOVE IT!

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.37  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.34    2 years ago

I don't live in a shit hole. Apparently you think you do? What democrat party controlled city/ state do you live in? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.38  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.34    2 years ago

The problem with cooperating or compromising with liberals is that they think that that is only possible if you agree 100%with them and give up you views and opinions entirely. It don't work that way. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.39  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1.35    2 years ago

Eeww! More liberal bs propaganda and spin. 

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.42  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.37    2 years ago

Republican politics is a SHITHOLE! It is the 'picture' of filth being poured into national discussion. Stop embarrassing and shitting on us all! Clean up and 'power-wash' your politics! It stinks.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.44  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.38    2 years ago

That is untrue. Perhaps you should talk to different liberals? Upgrade? Honestly, I do think conservatives have good points and policy positions. But conservatives message so damn poorly (though they consider it brilliant and coordinated). The problem is this: You can't 'gut' the opposition in this country, on either side or sides, because it will get called out and whoever is determined to be the 'culprit' or problem 'child' once the situation is aired in public the public will turn off or against.

We need to get back to cooperation between people who are one (or required to live together)!  Conservatives are not going to govern this country without liberals and liberals can not govern this country without conservatives.

So cut the crap. We all shitholes together or fountains together, and the children would wish us to maintain and sustain the fountains of this country!

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.45  CB  replied to    2 years ago

You are not helping to make 'it" happen. The kids of this country deserve better than "this"!

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.46  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.42    2 years ago

Tell that to the resident of Portland, Chicago Baltimore, San Francisco that have fallen in to ruin by the "leadership" of democrat members. I guess that is why people are fleeing from democrat states and moving to good republic states like Texas. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.48  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.44    2 years ago
But conservatives message so damn poorly (though they consider it brilliant and coordinated

I supposed that is the reason people in Pennsylvania are leaving the democrat party and registering Republican in large numbers

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.49  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.44    2 years ago
But conservatives message so damn poorly (though they consider it brilliant and coordinated

I supposed that is the reason people in Pennsylvania are leaving the democrat party and registering Republican in large numbers

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.50  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.46    2 years ago

That's full of shit too. Grow up. That's all I got to say.

Leaving you with something to reflect on:

Don't Let the Green Grass Fool You

Now, you can glean what you can from the 'messaging' and the melody (if you're not to whatever to even bother to listen).

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.51  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.46    2 years ago

Tell us what arkpdx?  I work in Baltimore and live in Columbia.  Tell us what??????????????????????????

Where is this ruin you speak of?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.52  Tessylo  replied to    2 years ago

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CB
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8.1.53  CB  replied to    2 years ago

Of course I live here. Born and raised and 'served.' But here is something for you to reflect on (too):

The Staple Singers - Respect Yourself (Official Lyric Video)

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.1.54  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.51    2 years ago

 Ever hear of "West Baltimore Ruins" by Shea McCoy?

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.55  CB  replied to    2 years ago

Yeah, really. What kids do you have in mind? Most likely "those."

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.56  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.50    2 years ago
Grow up.

I have. That is why I am not a liberal or a democrat. 

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.59  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.46    2 years ago

I won't even dignify that remark. I will add this: Wait until Texas reaps its surplus of babies born in and out of wedlock. Then we shall see what's what. (There are good times and bad times everywhere depending on when and where one stands.)

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.61  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.58    2 years ago

Typical of any large city.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.62  CB  replied to    2 years ago

Which parts of the understanding of "kids" is giving you the hardest trouble? C -

 
 
 
arkpdx
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8.1.64  arkpdx  replied to  CB @8.1.59    2 years ago
 I won't even dignify that remark 

And yet you reply to it. The reason is because you cannot dispute the facts that you he cities I mentioned have become shit holes under democrat/ liberal administrations.

Wait until Texas reaps its surplus of babies born in and out of wedlock 

Gee imagine that. Texas is going make people actually live up to their responsibilities and the consequences of their actions. Making people actually having to be adults. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.65  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.61    2 years ago

Typical of any large city.

Baltimore isn't a typical large city.  63% of Baltimore's population is black. Baltimore is located in the richest state in the country, Maryland.  Maryland is one of the most Blue states in the country.  Unemployment rate is 8.8% while nationally it's 3.8%.  The population has decreased 8.75% since 2010.  The population has declined around 45% since 1950.  Baltimore violent crime rate is twice that of nearby Washington DC.

To be born poor in Baltimore is to stay poor, in their very rich and very Blue state.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.67  CB  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.64    2 years ago

Just imagine! And after all the bravado, y'all can't MAKE Donald responsible. Go figure. Truth is Texas ain't going to make girls and women raise babies they didn't ask for or need. The state will have widening orphanages and burgeoning adoption centers. I can hear the gears turning already in the heads of entrepreneurs. . .flocking to the states. Oh, and the new influx of non-profits  branches like: FEED THE CHILDREN (Texas).

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.68  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.67    2 years ago
The state will have widening orphanages and burgeoning adoption centers.

Does any state still have orphanages?  I think that in the US, there are many more adults that want to adapt babies than babies available for adoption.  Isn't that why we have international adoption?  I believe that the children stuck in foster care are typically older kids.  

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.69  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.68    2 years ago

Give it the 'required' amount of time. . . .  You will 'recall' a great many things from 'yesterday' happening in Texas! Conservatives talk a great amount of Sugar-honey-ice-tea like their liberal counterparts do. But, when those babies start 'dropping' and the rolls start rising across "the great state" - Abbott will be on to 'greener and more lucrative adventures.' And, there will be impoverished girls and women with mouths to feed and no man around the house to be found!

Incidentally, why isn't Abbott mandating, "One child - One Dad" as a state policy?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.70  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.69    2 years ago

Give it the 'required' amount of time. . . .  You will 'recall' a great many things from 'yesterday' happening in Texas! 

Perhaps, but the US birth rate is at an all-time low.  Teens used to be a larger source for babies up for adoption are also getting pregnant at the lowest rate ever (a very good thing).  Single motherhood is no longer a stigma so they are less likely to place their baby for adoption.

I read somewhere that today, less than 10% of the women who were denied an requested abortion chose adoption.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.71  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.70    2 years ago

And? What does the present have to do with speaking to future outcomes?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.72  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.71    2 years ago
What does the present have to do with speaking to future outcomes?

Trend analysis?

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.73  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.72    2 years ago

Are you aware of the controversial Texas 2021 Abortion Law?  Yes or no? In your opinion, is it 'trending' sufficient data points?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.74  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.73    2 years ago

I am and believe that it is a bad law.  The trends that I mentioned were the trends against putting babies up for adoption.

 
 
 
bugsy
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8.1.75  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.61    2 years ago
Typical of any large city.

Most of which are run by democrats...and have been for decades.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.1.76  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.74    2 years ago

Respectfully, you joined in this discussion on a comment partially about Texas @8.1.67.  That state's issue with 'unwanted' children problem have yet to build and has great concern about metastasizing. Food for thought: Now that Texas republicans won't extend aid and benefits to the girls and women it is compelling to give birth, a consequence will be girls and women moving out of the (red) state. Guess where their end-designation will likely be.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.77  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.65    2 years ago

I hear your dog whistles loud and clear

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.78  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.65    2 years ago

Again, typical of any large city.

The highest murder rates are in red run states

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
8.1.79  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.77    2 years ago

I for one am not surprised that you hear dog whistles. I suspect that you have a good sense of smell also. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
8.1.80  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.77    2 years ago

I hear your dog whistles loud and clear

Does that make you a dog?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
8.1.81  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.78    2 years ago

Are you switching the discussion from cities to states?  

Is there a common demographic in those states?

 
 

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