FBI even searched Melania's wardrobe in Trump raid
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Via: vic-eldred • 2 years ago • 251 commentsBy: Miranda Devine (New York Post)
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FBI agents scoured Melania Trump's wardrobe and spent several hours combing through Donald Trump's private office, breaking open his safe and rifling through drawers when they raided the former First Family's Mar-a-Lago home in Florida Monday morning.
The Post has learned that the search warrant used by the FBI to enter the palatial Palm Beach property focused solely on presidential records and evidence of classified information being stored there.
A source close to the former president expressed concern that FBI agents or DOJ lawyers conducting the search could have "planted stuff" because they would not allow Trump's attorneys inside the 128-room building to observe the operation, which lasted more than nine hours.
The raid by over 30 plain clothes agents from the Southern District of Florida and the FBI's Washington Field Office extended through the Trump family's entire 3,000-square-foot private quarters, as well as to a separate office and safe, and a locked basement storage room in which 15 cardboard boxes of material from the White House were stored.
Feds arrived at 9 a.m. and didn't leave until 6:30 p.m.
An eyewitness to the raid said all of the boxes were confiscated by federal agents Monday, but it is unknown if anything else was taken as no itemized list of items was provided by the FBI.
The boxes contain documents and mementos from Trump's presidency, reportedly including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, and other correspondence with world leaders.
A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.
Trump's attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.
In May, Corcoran granted access into Mar-a-Lago's windowless storage room to FBI agents who spent several hours searching through the boxes. Trump stopped by the basement to say hello at one point, says someone who was there.
The Trump family since has decamped for the summer to his golf estate in Bedminster, New Jersey.
Mar-a-Lago is closed for the season and only a skeleton staff, including groundskeepers, were present during Monday's raid.
Access to the 20-acre private country club is believed to have been granted by heavily armed US Secret Service (USSS) agents stationed at the front gates and toting M4 carbines. Lawyers for the former president, who were caught off guard by the raid, arrived an hour later.
The FBI would not have executed a warrant without notifying the Secret Service first, according to a retired high ranking USSS agent.
"USSS legal counsel probably would've directed [them] to see copy of warrant and then step back."
Once inside the air-conditioned, white marble-clad private quarters, agents fanned out to search every room, while shocked staff were instructed by Trump's lawyers to unlock doors and provide the FBI access to every room, including the sumptuous Versailles Master Bedroom, renovated by Melania two years ago.
Another group of agents, including a professional safe cracker, moved to a separate part of the enormous 1924 Spanish stucco building to search Trump's office and safe.
The demeanor of the three DOJ lawyers who accompanied the FBI was described by one eyewitness as "arrogant," and they repeatedly told Trump representatives: "We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere."
Despite the sweltering 91 degrees temperature Monday, Trump's lawyers were forbidden by the feds to shelter inside the cool lobby, or to observe the search in any way, but were left outside in the baking sun near a parking lot.
The feds instructed Trump's representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.
Trump has ripped the raid of Mar-a-Lago as a political ploy.
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In the recent past when we had a dispute of Presidential papers, Barak Obama simply said I'm not going to turn them over. $30 million was spent via the FOI to learn why. George W also said I'm not going to turn them over, and and in both cases it was adjudicated. Now in the case of Trump there isn't even a subpoena. The weaponized FBI raids his home while he is away and they still haven't told us what they were looking for.
The difference between those who are exempt and those who are targeted depends on their ideology.
We are living under a far left totalitarian regime.
Has Orban opened the doors for those who want to move to a more acceptable political environment?
The new bogeyman for authoritarians everywhere.
not until the supply chain issues have been resolved in the distribution of SS uniforms.
Oh dear, does Soros have competition?
Obviously, she was above the law
Next...
How so?
Next . . .
gee, I wonder which one of trump's criminal investigations got the search warrant.
Evidently, you can't respond to Post 1.
The rest of this thread has been removed for taunting and no value.
Donald and his lawyers know. I guess they are too busy grifting donations to release the info.
Why would they seal the reason for the raid?
Judge Bruce Reinhardt is the judge who approved the warrant. The big question is why?
For those who really want to know:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/mitch-mcconnell-demands-answers-justice-department-trump-raid?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs
Your link did not answer that question.
They never do.
Because we don't have an answer. Nothing but silence.
How would you know? You frequently admit to not reading.
“Nothing but silence.”
Funny this.
As opposed to nothing but noise.
The FBI still has a serious credibility problem. They need to tell the American public why they did this.
They are playing with fire.
Not letting any of Trump's lawyers observe the search is not helping either. Wonder what the FBI was doing that they couldn't let anyone observe?
Here is the strange thing. The FBI claims they told Trump why they did this, yet Trump's lawyers are seeking an inventory of what was taken plus a copy of the Search Warrant application. That means somebody is lying!
Loud and empty and endless and incessant and whiny and did I say LOUD?
Another Questionable Source? smh
"Another Questionable Source? smh"
The only kind he has.
Ya! Trumpturd and his lawyers were lying. There were given a detailed inventory of what was taken and a copy of the search warrant.
Duh!
"How would you know? You frequently admit to not reading."
Not reading YOUR links or the links of the majority of your MULTITUDE of READERS LINKS because they are questionable and 99 times out of 100 do not support yours/their assertions or are a deflection from the question or topic or 'article'.
Why would I continue to waste my time on nonsense?
“The weaponized FBI…”
Ha…J.Edgar I could see raiding Melania’s closet.
Somehow the word overboard just seems to more than match the DOJ and FBI's actions.
That's the dangerous game they are playing
Yep it is.
Overboard?
How so?
Try reading the news!
I see your echo chamber buddies voted up your echo chamber comment.
Well, your tag team partners frequently do the same with yours, so what's your point?
You know they don't have a point. All the do is blather on and on with fiction and unfounded exclamations in the hopes of distracting everybody from the actual problems.
Were they subpoenaed?
Why bother? He ignored subpoenas throughout his Administration and advised others to ignore
lawful subpoenas over and over again.
All colorful language aside, the search was conducted with Trump's attorney's coordination and the FBI rarely discusses ongoing investigations or publishes subpoenas.
So was your first paragraph a falsehood or are you saying George W was a Democrat?
You are wrong once again. Sad.
That's illegal! Why isn't Trump in jail for ignoring subpoenas? Please provide evidence that Trump failed to comply with subpoenas to the AG so he can arrest Trump straight away!
This is so satisfying! He is going down! President Biden knew nothing of this search warrant/raid!
#45 said these are 'dark times for our nation' because of this well warranted search. It looks like the 'dark times' are coming to an end and his big fat ass will be going behind bars.
Dark times for him!
Ya!!!!!
This is unprecedented!
A search warrant and FBI raid on an ex-president!
Happy Days are here again!
Whether he goes down or not, to everyone who isn't indoctrinated this clearly looks like a an outrageous abuse of power.
The day of reckoning arrives in 4 months.
I am not a young man anymore, and have been alive, as we all have, to see some of the most momentous events of recent centuries. With all that, nothing I've seen in my life compares to the sad spectacle of millions of Americans bowing down in subservience to a criminal con man, Donald Trump.
A congressional committee has essentially proven that he broke numerous laws as he tried to overturn the last election and illegally keep himself in power, and still, just a couple weeks later, we have conservatives beside themselves with anguish and fury because the mean old Justice Department of the United States is trying to bring this notorious criminal to justice.
The political right is actively trying to ruin our country, and you know what? they are succeeding.
He hasn't been convicted of anything, so why do you call him a criminal?
For the hundredth fucking time, you dont have to be convicted to be a criminal, you have to have committed crimes.
A federal judge has said, in writing that Trump and John Eastman likely broke the law as they schemed to steal the 2020 election.
And that is just the beginning.
What the hell is wrong with the Republican Party? Do they want America to fall apart? because that is what is going to happen unless something changes fast. You cant keep enabling someone like Trump forever without it damaging our society. It has happened already.
conviction in the court of public opinion counts to some vic .
So it is in the era of the left. I distinguished between the two in post 1. Nobody has an answer to that.
A federal judge has said, in writing that Trump and John Eastman likely broke the law as they schemed to steal the 2020 election.
How do you likely break the law?
Do they want America to fall apart?
Does that mean the left will take to the streets again?
Will it be the FBI?
We'll find out in November
cant say but im remembering Mt Carmel and another alphabet agency and the damage that was done to that ones reputation , they still havent recovered from that one .
It's the court of public opinion. You know, the one run by people who have hurt feelings and cry relentlessly about it.
You mean like being derelict in your duties as an embassy is overrun and American's are left to their own?
You mean like abandoning US Citizens in a combat zone?
You mean like using your position to get your drunk husband out of jail?
LIKELY broke the law. Did you miss that LIKELY part? I imagine you did so it fits your narrative. At any rate, even this federal judge has reservations.
So far, after every hoax, "smoking gun", "final nail" and "bombshell", this is the first time an actual part from the USC has been identified. It only took 7 years to do this and it's still speculation.
What's the problem with the Democrats and the left? The country IS falling apart and you are just sitting back and watching it happen.
This may not play out the way they hoped.
Perhaps we need to get Durham on the case.
Another one who can't defend it.
Talking to you is an utter waste of time.
“And that is just the beginning.”
The DOJ is treading new waters here, and their patience is understandable.
Never has an ex-president come under scrutiny on the variety of possible infractions committed. The ‘wheels of justice’ are in play now. Let us all take a breath and let it play out.
Impossible for some it seems…given the already specious excuses.
It hasn't for the past 7 years. Why should this be any different?
So are your seeds yet here we are.
But just as a good left winger will do, you persist.
They really think everyone is easily fooled.
And all based on the fact THEY are easily fooled.
It was either at college or a liberal upbringing, but they swallowed all of it.
I'm pretty sure it's a combination of both.
I have that feeling as well.
Which laws?
Why hasn't he been charged with breaking those laws?
Funny how some people are just absolutely convinced that there was actual damning evidence to be found. Going to be a lot of pissed off FBI agents, DOJ folks, and hard core leftist lib anti Trumpers if the feds wasted their time.
There are going be terrible repercussions if they have nothing.
Newsweek is running a story that all of this came out of an informer at Mara-a-Lago.
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Therein lies the key question that the hard core leftist libs here on NT cannot and/or will not answer. They totally refuse to accept that to have committed a criminal act, a person must be tried and convicted in a court of law. They can be accused of one, but are still considered innocent until proven guilty and convicted. Just saying somebody is a criminal or that they committed a criminal act alone does not make them a criminal in the eyes of the law. That' why it is called innocent until proven guilty.
You think the country is going to accept more malpractice from the FBI?
On the evidence, we know about, so far, a Jan. 6 indictment would be a long - legal - stretch. So here we are trying to use a law pertaining to presidential records.
If you murder someone and you never get caught you have still committed a crime. Murder is criminal whether it is adjudicated in court or not.
It is absurd to argue that unless you are convicted you are not a criminal.
If malpractice is proven, those responsible will be held accountable.
Sadly and pathetically, anyone can throw out baseless accusations hereabouts and there is no accountability.
That never happens. I think tomorrow, I'll do something on the last 4 FBI directors.
Sadly and pathetically, anyone can throw out baseless accusations hereabouts and there is no accountability.
There is lots of damning evidence that the FBI has gone rogue.
criminal
crim·i·nal
(krĭm′ə-nəl)Are you going to give us more fake facts, aka conspiracy theories? I'll pass.
Like it or not, the law is still the law.
True and like it or not, #45 and his enablers are not above it
So you're not a 'hard core liberal leftist' then?
All they got . . .
"...#45 and his enablers are not above it".
Please state where I ever said they were. I'll wait for your answer.
As the Democrats have demonstrated in spades the last few years when it comes to Trump.
You can wait all damned night. Makes no difference to me
Not a single baseless accusation to be found regarding#45
In other words you cannot. Thank you and have a good evening.
How predictable of you.
Or is it just your need for the last word
Either way, I don't give a shit
I don't accept that, either. That's not what I'm saying. People get away with criminal acts all the time. You probably saw a dozen the last time you were in the car for more than an hour. Driving 90 mph is a criminal act whether you get pulled over or not.
That's not the point.
The point is that they say idiotic shit like 'the committee basically proved he's committed several crimes'...and then they can't name any of those crimes.
They run around squealing with excitement at every stupid little scrap of news like they're a bunch of teenage girls who just heard Harry Stiles is next door. Then, they have a teenage girl tantrum when you point out that arguing with the Secret Service detail or waiting 3 hours to see if the rioters disperse are not actually crimes.
I'm not a Trump fan. I've disliked the man since the 1980s. I do believe he has almost certainly done something illegal, but it's almost certainly not something we've seen publicly.
That said, you are 100% correct. He is innocent until proven guilty, just like everybody else.
Sounds like you have a personal problem, but I will leave the last word to you. Make good use of it.
Very immature response.
Just like your unfunny satire
You made a comment that I essentially agreed with and you're asking for back up which isn't needed. Your typical deflections and denials. Ho hum. Sounds like you got the last word, as usual. Regarding personal problems, look in the mirror.
We're not the ones shitting our pants here.
The trumpturdians are the ones shitting their pants and rightfully so.
Their hero is going down slowly but surely.
The typical deflection, projection, denials, and lies and desperation are everywhere in their defense of the trumpturd.
For the 1324th time?
Ho hum.
Which surprises no one at all familiar with the President.
Didn't you know? This is the SMOKING GUN!!!!!!
Sigh.
ANOTHER ONE?
I'm wondering if there isn't some sort of misunderstanding about the whole "smoking gun" idea.
Let's face it, as a group, liberal-leaning people are not always very knowledgeable about guns.
Is it possible they're thinking a "smoking gun" is one that someone has set on fire? Or maybe they're thinking it's a gun one wears while smoking, kinda like a smoking jacket.
Just trying to help identify the disconnect.
I'll give them a little credit. They THINK they know what a "smoking gun" is. That's all the credit I'll give them. Reality is they honestly don't have a clue. They probably heard the phrase used in some Spongebob episode and ran with it.
Not that it matters. Every "smoking gun" or "bombshell" or "final nail" they have claimed has blown up in their faces.
Of course he didn't. He doesn't even know what day it is how can you expect him to know about something like that?
Called plausible deniability.
Called senility.
That too.
"A source close to the former president expressed concern that FBI agents or DOJ lawyers conducting the search could have "planted stuff" because they would not allow Trump's attorneys inside the 128-room building to observe the operation, which lasted more than nine hours."
Right - they 'planted stuff'
Maybe marijuana?
It's not a matter of planting stuff, it's searching for stuff. Wasn't that what they did before?
Even democrats are criticizing them for not telling the American public what this is about.
What Democrats would those be?
They're searching for 'stuff' because whathisname has refused to cooperate and turn over those documents which he did not have permission to remove to his private residence in Mar-A-Lardo.
He invited them in back in June.
If there was a refusal to cooperate there should have been a subpoena. As I noted, both George W and fucking Obama both publicly refused to give back Presidential documents. That was adjudicated. So why the raid? The country gets it.
"He invited them in back in June."
Why are you deflecting to President Obama? This has nothing to do with it.
The country gets what?
It's been well reported.
Andrew Cuomo, Andrew Yang, and Tulsi Gabbard, to name a few.
Because he refused to give back documents he took.
The country gets what?
How dirty it is
Has nothing to do with this - just a deflection.
How dirty it is. . .
We're cleaning it up now from that shitstain who waddled out of the White House on 1/20/21 and now that all that shit is hitting the fan now that dirty donald is under investigation, rightly so.
It wasn't a raid, it was a legally conducted search. A warrant is issued when the perp can't be trusted to comply with a subpoena. I think you know that.
Again: how come they didn't raid George W or Obama? Both absolutely refused to return documents.
Because Garland has a big Republican chip on his shoulders. It was his turn to be SCOTUS.
Thank God he didn't end up on the Court!
Maybe because the DoJ was not investigating them for crimes.
According to the article above:
"The Post has learned that the search warrant used by the FBI to enter the palatial Palm Beach property focused solely on presidential records and evidence of classified information being stored there."
That would mean that this is about Presidential records, just like Bush and Obama.
So, the same question:
how come they didn't raid George W or Obama?
George W and Obama are not lifelong criminals.
That won't do John. Try again.
Because they were not suspected of trying to overthrow the government and rule of law that you so often preach.
That's no good, do you even know why?
Because, as the article points out:
"The Post has learned that the search warrant used by the FBI to enter the palatial Palm Beach property focused solely on presidential records and evidence of classified information being stored there."
Let me explain that to you Thomas; It had nothing to do with Jan 6. It was about Presidential papers, so again:
Why Trump and not Bush or Obama?
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Makes me think that they were looking for more, regardless what the warrant says.
You can blame Mitch for that foolishness. 5-4 votes are just as good as 6-3 votes.
I think he deserves thanks!
It was a huge gamble that paid off. At the time everyone expected the Hillary Clinton machine to beat Donald Trump. Had she won, she could have appointed virtually anyone.
What a ballsy bet that was!
Hahahahaha...
Probably because of your (Deleted:Trump's) known lack of respect for the law. So they went through the process, all legal like, and here you are ranting and raving about leftist authoritarian rule when nothing has been done that was outside of legality. Stuff that in your baker and ruminate on it. You're just sad that Trump did not get to be el-presidente before he became ex-president wannabe dictator.
How do you know that?
They didn't obtain a FISA warrant "all legal like."
They didn't investigate Hillary Clinton "all legal like."
They didn't send 4 innocent men to jail in Boston "all legal like."
They didn't investigate the Whitmer kidnap plot "all legal like."
I agree with the Chief Judge on the FISA Court. I wouldn't trust anything the FBI said.
So, if one is going to search the former president's house, don't you think that, being aware that he is going to make hay of it, one would be especially careful to follow due process??
Ohhhh, I get it. Because you don't agree with it, they did it illegally. Proof?
Right. That sure stopped the FBI when investigating the Trump campaign.
Well, you know, there are some slow learners here. I meant there...oooor, aw shucks, both places will do just fine!
trumpturd certainly is a bitter hateful old turd.
The demeanor of the three DOJ lawyers who accompanied the FBI was described by one eyewitness as "arrogant," and they repeatedly told Trump representatives: "We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere."
Aw, poor babies. They were inconvenienced by some 'arrogant' people.
Despite the sweltering 91 degrees temperature Monday, Trump's lawyers were forbidden by the feds to shelter inside the cool lobby, or to observe the search in any way, but were left outside in the baking sun near a parking lot.
Too bad, so sad!
Whiny little bunch aren't they?
"The feds instructed Trump's representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.
Trump has ripped the raid of Mar-a-Lago as a political ploy."
Ya! A 'political ploy'
You mean they weren't allowed to sit in their cars running the air conditioning? Maybe they should have spent the time playing 18 holes.
No, they must have been forced to sit in their cars all the time with the windows up and the air conditioning off.
Why? Because of exhaust emissions contributing to global warming or were they in EVs?
"In the recent past when we had a dispute of Presidential papers"
There's no 'dispute' here.
All classified information that he shouldn't have.
I just loved Stephanie Grisham's account of how he handled so much classified information - some he threw away, some he ripped up, some he put in his pockets.
Hahaha
Now they might have planted stuff....
OMG....So that is going to be his spin...
Yep. This is going to be their spin.
We don't need spin. All we needed was for the left to act like the left.
So yes, you all are going to just make up conspiracy theories for donald.
“…All we needed…”
Define ‘we’, vic.
Guessing ‘wee’ is more appropriate.
Thank you all.
Now we just sit back and wait for November.
We being all the American citizens who are not far left radicals.
“…and wait for November.”
When the short-sighted gains possibly made in an off year election are where one hangs his hat says all one need to know.
Please tell us how we can be better, for no one can be satisfied with current trends. That being said, an answer may be frightening in its implications.
So you and jim. Carry on.
The answer is obvious.
Jim and I and most of America.
nah. Most of America is against your far right dictatorial schemes.
Please entertain us with some tales of these 'far right dictatorial schemes'--I can hardly wait to hear about them!
You need an argument. Perhaps you might want to read the article that Miranda Devine worked so hard on..
It's the first one that really gives us details of the FBI raid.
I suspect we will hear all about those schemes next year. If the Republicans take the House (which is fully expected to happen) I would expect many committees being formed to investigate several parts of this administration and I would expect a very deep dive into the FBI and the DOJ .
Yes, well the "we" coin has 2 sides that mirror each other.
One side says "In God We Trust."
On no side does it say "In We God Trusts."
Don't you have an American Quarter?
Miranda Divine, ha. She couldn't tell the truth if it was written on her eyeballs.
What is this thing you have with her, it's almost like stalking.
I need an argument? Not with you around because your arguments are so funny and fun to pick holes in, for a little bit anyway, then they always return to "authoritarian leftist regime" territory and I know that it is time for at least one of us to take our meds.
I'm stocking up on the popcorn already!
You must be thinking of Canadian coins.
Big fucking deal.
We are living in an authoritarian state with a fringe group controlling the media and the federal government.
That is a big deal
Who is this 'fringe group 'controlling the media and the federal government'?
Is this the deep state the whackjobs have been claiming exists?
Why are you protecting the most disgraced president in American history?
You have no idea?
I'm protecting the rights every American is supposed to be entitled to. That is what distinguishes the US from all the authoritarian regimes around the world. They also have "Bills of Rights." They simply ignore them, just like our very own FBI.
You apparently have no idea
"I'm protecting the rights every American is supposed to be entitled to."
How are you doing that?
#45 isn't above the law as you and his supporters/enablers believe.
Hillary was above the law when the FBI allowed & gave immunity to the one who destroyed subpoenaed documents.
James Comey was above the law when he took documents that belonged to the FBI.
Eric Holder was above the law when he refused to provide "Fast & Furious" subpoenaed documents.
Evidently the law depends on one's ideology
Why would Donald Trump be immune to a house search pursuant to a warrant? Because you want him to be?
That's not normal procedure. Why are you ignoring procedure? Because the end justifies the means?
Welcome to Fantasy Island! here, Vic can say anything he wants and the bobble heads will follow, not because it is true, ... Just because. He took lessons from Thump, Don't Chaknow.
Prove that the rule of law has been suspended in America.
Prove that There is "a fringe group controlling the media and the federal government"
You can't because it just is not true. Yet you come on here and say it repeatedly, and you know it is not true. That is called lying.
I have. Hillary Clinton had someone destroy subpoenaed information. That person was given immunity by the FBI.
Only one example. There are a multitude of examples. One needs to accept the truth. Some prefer not to.
“..,Hillary Clinton..,”
Passed time to give up the ghost.
It doesn't work that way. The FBI can never remove that stain.
You mean stuff like this little gem?
That's definitely a given when it comes to you! For sure!
You never answered the question. You've just endlessly deflected to Obama and Hillary
As usual
Ho hum indeed
The shitstain waddled out of the White House on 1/20
You're right though, the stain remains
Hilarious from someone who constantly squawks "I don't answer to you".
Maybe he just wants to take your example.
Not at all and all you have little 'man' is your usual deflection, denials, and projection, and ignorance. Living in some alternate bizarro world/alternate reality.
Funny hearing the word truth from a trumpturd supporter.
They were allowed to search everywhere so that would include her wardrobe - anywhere and everywhere!
Who was the Judge that approved the warrant? Do you know?
Hint: He has something to do with fucking Obama.
What does he have to do with Obama?
I don't think he Fucked Obama......
John, for the 4th time:
Obama openly said he would not return Presidential documents to the National Records. Nobody raided his house! It was adjudicated.
And it was those dastardly MSM folks controlled by "far left radicals" who took him to court over it. There are times (many) that your arguments appear to be based on an aging collection of Post-it notes.
And the left and Democrats still think the FBI is credible.
What's really fucking hilarious is that the alt-right/whackjobs/trumpturd supporters think that they have any credibility whatsoever.
But you write it so well.
I bet that left a mark!
Ouch indeed!
Some folks think in gibberish.
LOL.
The Dems have lost all hope of keeping the House and Senate. The leftist's glee will be short lived. The "Revenge Of The MAGA" is coming!
The Dems will lose the House and everyone knows it. Currently polling (it could change) show the Dems picking up seats in the Senate.
Not after this unprecedented and unnecessary abuse of power witch hunt. Did the FBI miss something in May?
I suspect their search will come up empty
"In May, Corcoran granted access into Mar-a-Lago's windowless storage room to FBI agents who spent several hours searching through the boxes. Trump stopped by the basement to say hello at one point, says someone who was there."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/08/10/cuomo-response-to-fbi-raid-n2611524?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky1
Yes. It was unprecedented.
Neither you nor I know what they were looking for. Trump has a copy of the warrant and could release that information if he thinks it was so unnecessary.
This is what we know. A grand jury was opened in May in connection to a probe on misappropriated classified documents. Some involving national security. Documents weren't returned until criminal action was threatened. Investigators reported in June they found more classified documents being stored improperly there. Yesterday the FBI executed a warrant that was signed off on at every level of the FBI and DoJ and brought before a judge.
IF the FBI & DoJ have mishandled this case then they should be held accountable - all the way up that chain of command that signed off on the raid.
IF Trump OR people around Trump have mishandled national security documents (or worse) then they should likewise be held accountable.
Until we get credible reports of the what, where, when and how you are pissing in the wind. I'll wait to pass judgment and then pass them on the appropriate people.
I kinda laugh at unprecedented. If they raided my house I could call it unprecedented...Haha
The probable cause for the warrant is sealed. Trump does not have a copy of the probable cause and at this point has no idea why the warrant was issued. So it is up to the state to disclose the probable cause. A warrant will not disclose the reason for the raid just the permission and scope.
Good idea.
True, but he could release at least that much and we will get to the rest of it in due time. With the amount of pressure on this it won't take long.
No matter what the number of active investigations against an ex-President, an FBI search of an ex-President's home and violent sycophantic populist movement behind him will make the history books.
Why? What do you think it will reveal?
political kabuki theater , i will wait until the poll that counts in nov to see what happens .
until then , its anyones guess.
“…an FBI search of an ex-President's home…”
…close quote…
This is starting to smell like a set up.
A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.
So the GSA was good with this, since they were the one's who approved as to what got packed up. So then why this:
In May, Corcoran granted access into Mar-a-Lago's windowless storage room to FBI agents who spent several hours searching through the boxes. Trump stopped by the basement to say hello at one point, says someone who was there.
The FBI already went through these boxes. I'm thinking the GSA packed away another "insurance policy" and there wasn't enough time for the FBI to find it in May so they decided to be sure of finding it this time, they just take it all and search to their hearts content.
Everything smells like a setup to the right. They are a bunch of disturbed conspiracy nuts.
They pretend that it smells like a set up. How else can they justify their support of this steaming pile of shit for all these years?
The FBI will find something, so the question is how did it get there? Trump didn't do the packing the GSA did. The FBI is so sure that there is something in these documents that they had to conduct a raid to get them all, I don't believe that they just have a hunch, they were told by someone that it is there, perhaps someone in the GSA.
So now you are going to say it is a secret plot to trap him....
SMH....
FBI Search of Trump's Home Pushes Long Conflict Into Public View
The search carried out Monday by the FBI at former President Donald Trump’s Florida home, a law enforcement action with explosive legal and political implications, was the culmination of a lengthy conflict between a president proud of his disdain for rules and officials charged with protecting the nation’s records and secrets.
On one side were officials from the National Archives, which is responsible for making sure all presidential records are preserved according to the law, and the Justice Department, which some people familiar with the inquiry said had grown concerned about the whereabouts of possible classified information and whether Trump’s team was being fully forthcoming.
On the other was Trump, who, in apparent contravention of the Presidential Records Act, had taken a trove of material, including sensitive documents, with him to his home at Mar-a-Lago when he left the White House — and then, in the Justice Department’s view, had failed to fully comply with requests that he return the disputed material.
After the investigation bubbled along largely out of public view for months, word that agents had arrived early Monday at the gates of Mar-a-Lago with a search warrant raised new questions about Trump’s vulnerability to prosecution and fueled further partisan division.
Trump’s aides and allies intensified their criticism of the search Tuesday, calling it unnecessary and asserting, without citing any evidence, that it was a brazen use of prosecutorial power for political purposes. On his social media site Tuesday, Trump cast the search as part of “a coordinated attack” that also includes local and state prosecutors, alluding to investigations into him being carried out in Georgia and New York.
Christina Bobb, a lawyer and aide to Trump who said she received a copy of the search warrant, told one interviewer that the agents were looking for “presidential records or any possibly classified material.”
At the White House, President Joe Biden’s press secretary said he had no advance word of the decision to carry out the search, and at the Justice Department, Attorney General Merrick Garland maintained public silence about the momentous step.
Despite Trump’s suggestions that an army of agents raided Mar-a-Lago and stormed through his home, the FBI conducted the search on a day when Trump was out of town and the club was closed. The agents carried out the search in a relatively low-key manner, people with knowledge of the matter said; by some accounts, they were not seen donning the conspicuous navy-blue jackets with the agency’s initials emblazoned on the back that are commonly worn when executing search warrants.
Another person familiar with the search said agents began going through a basement storage unit, where items lsuch as beach chairs and umbrellas are kept. They progressed to his office, which was built for him on the second floor of the main house, where they cracked a hotel-style safe that was said by two people briefed on the search to contain nothing of consequence to the agents.
Then they moved to Trump’s residence, the person said.
Ultimately, they removed a number of boxes of documents, people familiar with the search said.
It is not clear what the agents were looking for or what they took. Nor is it clear whether the search was carried out simply to ensure that the documents and other material were properly turned over to the archives or whether it was a possible precursor to a prosecution of Trump for mishandling classified material or obstructing efforts to get it back.
Throughout his presidency, Trump was disdainful of record-preservation laws and was known to tear up documents and in some cases to flush them down toilets. It is not clear whether he sought to hold on to material sought by the archives and the Justice Department to keep it away from public scrutiny or for some other reason.
A close look at the investigation, though, shows how it has been quietly picking up steam for much of this year, introducing a new element into the questions about Trump’s varied and intensifying legal problems and his political viability even as he hints at another run for the presidency.
For many months before he left office, Trump would tell aides to bring documents to the residence for him while he was in the Oval Office, and they complied. But there was no process in place, meaning that officials whose job it was to keep track of paperwork did not always know exactly what had been taken there, according to people familiar with the events.
By the end of his presidency, and as Trump was fighting to overturn his election loss, some of his aides were concerned with preserving the work of the office itself. His habit of transporting material around in cardboard boxes, with either a personal aide or a valet carrying them, was well known, but the contents were not always clear.
Discussions were held within the White House by top staff members about how to get Trump to surrender his boxes, people familiar with the events said; it is unclear whether Trump was ever asked directly or officials simply did not discuss the issue with him.
When he left the White House, Trump took the boxes with him to Mar-a-Lago, packed with paperwork including letters from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and the former president’s “Sharpie-gate” map of the path of a hurricane, along with personal items such as golf balls and a rain coat and various other things stuffed in them.
The National Archives, whose mission is to preserve government documents, determined last year that many important presidential documents that archivists knew existed were missing and believed to be in Trump’s possession.
That set off a lengthy back and forth between the National Archives and Trump’s lawyers about what documents he might have taken. Trump’s unwillingness to quickly hand over the documents frustrated archives officials, who had grown deeply skeptical throughout the Trump administration that he and his aides followed federal record keeping laws.
For the rest of 2021, Trump resisted requests to give back the material. In the meantime, Trump would wave things like the North Korean leader’s letters at people, as if they were collectors’ items he was showing off.
In January, an official for the National Archives flew to Florida and retrieved 15 boxes of documents, gifts and other government property.
When archivists went through the boxes, they found several documents containing sensitive national security information, including some marked classified.
The archivists also discovered that Trump had not returned several documents that they believed the former president had in his possession. Around this time, the National Archives alerted the Justice Department that it was concerned about the handling of the classified documents, which are closely tracked by the government and are supposed to remain within secure channels.
By this spring, the Justice Department had taken a range of steps that showed it was conducting an investigation into what happened with the classified documents, as prosecutors issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the boxes and convened a grand jury, whose term was later extended past its initial expiration date.
Investigators began contacting possible witnesses, including Molly Michael, an assistant to Trump, signaling that they were seeking information from people close to the former president. A lawyer for Michael declined to comment.
During the spring, a group of federal investigators, including the Justice Department’s top counterintelligence official, Jay Bratt, traveled to Mar-a-Lago. Trump met with them briefly, and lawyers for Trump were present.
In an interview Tuesday with the right-wing channel Real America’s Voice, Bobb said she and other Trump lawyers had been “extremely cooperative” with the FBI during a previous visit when agents were given “free access” to the building.
After Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago, they subpoenaed the Trump Organization for a copy of Mar-a-Lago’s surveillance tapes, a person with knowledge of the matter said. The company complied, turning over the tapes to the government.
Trump’s lawyers also sifted through his records at Mar-a-Lago to determine whether he still was holding onto anything classified or sensitive. In the course of that process, Trump’s team made statements to the Justice Department about what Trump had returned.
But in recent weeks, officials came to question whether that information was entirely accurate — and whether Trump continued to store sensitive documents at Mar-a-Lago, one of the people said. It is unclear whether the Justice Department conveyed that concern to Trump’s team.
Trump and his aides have made clear that they were taken by surprise when the agents showed up at Mar-a-Lago with a search warrant Monday.
A person with knowledge of the matter said the warrant was approved by a federal magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, a former federal prosecutor and defense lawyer. Magistrate judges are selected by district court judges, meaning that they are not political appointees. It is common for magistrates to review search warrant applications.
The warrant was obtained by prosecutors with the Justice Department’s national security division, which at the request of the National Archives has been leading the investigation into whether the materials were improperly removed and stored, according to two people with knowledge of the situation.
The FBI left behind a detailed manifest of all the materials that were removed, according to a person familiar with the investigation.
New photos suggest how Trump, flush with power, may have sent official documents down the toilet
Into the sewer.
That appears to be the intended destination of what look like torn-up presidential documents in photographs released by reporter Maggie Haberman to the news publication Axios, which published them on Aug. 8, 2022.
Haberman has a book coming out on former President Donald Trump in early October. One photo, allegedly of a White House toilet, shows a scrap of paper with what Haberman says is Trump’s handwriting on it , sitting at the bottom of the toilet bowl. The other photo, of a different toilet allegedly used on an overseas trip, has several scraps of paper similarly situated, with the name of a Republican congresswoman written on one piece.
But even without having to unclog plumbing in search of missing papers, national archivists have their work cut out trying to plug potential gaps in the 45th president’s historical record.
oh oh it's FLUSHGATE!!!!!
I know dear, you don't have an intelligent rebuttal, so that's what we get.
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