Nancy Pelosi's Husband Paul Pelosi Hospitalized After Hammer Attack in San Francisco Residence
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Via: revillug • 2 years ago • 246 commentsBy: Dan Ladden-Hall, Zachary Petrizzo, Justin Rohrlich (The Daily Beast)
While the full details of the attack are yet to be released, law enforcement sources told CNN that the 82-year-old was attacked by a male assailant with a hammer. Two sources who spoke to the Associated Press said Mr. Pelosi sustained blunt force injuries to his head and body, leaving him with bruising and severe swelling. The attack "specifically targeted" the Pelosi home, the sources told the AP.
Once inside, the suspect shouted, "Where is Nancy, where is Nancy?" CNN reported, citing a source who was briefed on the situation.
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'VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED'
The 82-year-old reportedly sustained blunt force injuries to his head and body from an assailant who yelled, "Where's Nancy?"
Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), was hospitalized after being "violently assaulted" by an intruder who broke into the couple's residence in San Francisco early Friday morning, the Speaker's spokesman said in a statement.
"Mr. Pelosi was taken to the hospital, where he is receiving excellent medical care and is expected to make a full recovery," the statement said. "The Speaker was not in San Francisco at the time."
The assailant, who has not yet been named publicly, was taken into custody and the motivation for the attack is "under investigation," the statement said, adding that Pelosi and her family were "grateful to the first responders and medical professionals involved."
While the full details of the attack are yet to be released, law enforcement sources told CNN that the 82-year-old was attacked by a male assailant with a hammer. Two sources who spoke to the Associated Press said Mr. Pelosi sustained blunt force injuries to his head and body, leaving him with bruising and severe swelling. The attack "specifically targeted" the Pelosi home, the sources told the AP.
Once inside, the suspect shouted, "Where is Nancy, where is Nancy?" CNN reported, citing a source who was briefed on the situation.
San Francisco Police spokesperson Sgt. Adam Lobsinger tweeted that officers responded to a "home break-in" at 2:27 a.m. Friday. "SFPD Chief Scott will address the media at police HQ," Lobsinger added.
The United States Capitol Police said in a statement that the Speaker was in D.C. with her protective detail at the time. It's not clear what security detail was at the Pelosis' residence, if any.
"Special Agents with the USCP's California Field Office quickly arrived on scene, while a team of investigators from the Department's Threat Assessment Section was simultaneously dispatched from the East Coast to assist the FBI and the San Francisco Police with a joint investigation," Capitol Police said in a statement, adding that the assailant's motive was still under investigation.
Larry Kamer, Mr. Pelosi's spokesperson, told The Daily Beast on Friday morning that he did not have any information to provide.
Assaults are up 11 percent this year in San Francisco, and robberies are up 5 percent, although burglary has actually fallen significantly in 2022, according to statistics on the city police department's website.
Threats against members of Congress, specifically, have skyrocketed recently, with the number of investigations launched by Capitol Police rising from 3,939 in 2017 to 9,625 in 2021, according to stats provided to The Hill last month.
Members have been granted additional funding for home security, but more is needed as threats continue to escalate, according to the AP.
According to a report released last week by Princeton University's Bridging Divides Initiative, threats and harassment against public officials have reached "an inflection point." Focused primarily on local officials, the report found "increasing general support for the use of threats and harassment... with respondents justifying such attacks on ideological grounds."
Of 400 cases between 2020 and 2022, about 40 percent were related to election issues, 30 percent were related to education issues, and 29 percent to health issues—overwhelmingly COVID-19, the report found, noting that female officials were targeted 3.4 times more than men.
Friday's attack is likely to intensify national scrutiny of crime in San Francisco, where residents voted to recall progressive district attorney Chesa Boudin this summer after a spate of assaults, robberies and break-ins, and crisis-level homelessness.
"Thank God [Nancy Pelosi's] husband Paul is safe after being attacked in their home by an assailant," Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) tweeted Friday. "While the motive is still unknown we know where this kind of violence is sanctioned and modeled."
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Or as FoxNews reported the story, "Where's Nancy? Conservative wants to know!"
So the guy said where is Nancy and they wonder what the motive was?...
Maybe a disgruntled customer of Financial Leasing Services.
The motive was he was after Peolsi.
A double scoop of Rocky Road?
So do the seeded article and many others. The rest of comment 1 is false.
Do you also fact check The Daily Show for factual errors in their graphics?
So you added something. I saw it as a little joke. But I'm known for having a sense of humor unlike others who think they're nice
Why would you mention a comedy/satire show when your comment 1 and my comment 1.2 directly referenced news sources?
Are you always this literal?
yes
You asked me a question, and I answered it. Very simple!
Also a complete PITA
You obviously don't know the difference between.
This was a terrible attack perpetrated by a lone lunatic.
I agree with Mitch McConnell in denouncing it.
a lone lunatic that happens to be a trumpster...
...and a Canadian, “hemp jewelry maker,” was living in a storage unit a few years ago, struggling with hard drugs, and claimed that “Jesus is the anti christ.”
Yet they're always claiming the 'left' are the violent ones when we see endless whack jobs on the right like this scumbag attacking a Democrat Leader and her husband. This is just one of I'm sure at least hundreds or more if not more of physical attacks on top of all the threats and attacks on all things Democrat/Democrats/Democracy leaders and their families and those who support them.
Typical trumptudian whack job
And we're the violent ones
Who is always claiming that?
whack job no doubt, the spectrum he is on isn't political
Where do you find your numbers?
One lunatic trumpster among a multitude of lunatic trumpsters
Something you have no familiarity with - truth
My mistake but it did turn out to be a trumpster
Who'd a thunk it?
The question is now how many lone Trump lunatics there are.
Good question, do the lone ones worry you more than the grouped ones?
that lone wolf wacko was a trumpster anomaly. usually those cowards are in groups of 3 or more.
Prove it
prove what? that he was a wacko? that he was a trumpster? (apologies for the redundancy) that he was an anomaly? that he was a coward? that he was alone? please be more specific.
gee, trumpster conspiracy nut draws first blood, from a family member of a politician...
While the motive is still unknown we know where this kind of violence is sanctioned and modeled."
Yes, San Francisco
Right, the majority that has elected her to 17 terms in Congress is the place that has modeled and sanctioned this type of violence against a Democratic legislator, not the places where all those thousands who attacked the capital and went hunting for elected Democrats with zip ties in hand and were screaming to hang a politician they considered a traitor who was siding with Democrats. Sure, that makes sense, but only to someone whose contortions that were necessary to stuff one's own head up their ass have cut off the blood circulation to the brain.
Why even bother pretending that this isn't just another example of bitter angry rightwing conservatives who pray daily for their supposedly 'godless liberal progressive' political opponents to have their heads bashed in. I rarely hear anyone on the left ever talking about 'watering the tree of liberty' yet it seems a common theme on the right, especially among their white nationalist, white supremacist, neo-Nazi fellow conservatives.
Gimme a break.
Say what?
My youngest daughter just had a trip there. Said it was a pig sty and she didn't feel safe at all. I find that sad, it used to be one of our greatest cities to visit.
I had relatives in the San Fran area but haven't been back in a while. It was a beautiful, safe, clean city. Not anymore! The area where the Pelosis live (Pacific Heights) is extremely upscale. It seems that even the elite don't have enough security.
Did she download and use the poop map?
Homelessness is a national problem that local places bear the brunt of.
Just like immigration at the border is a national problem where the brunt is felt at the border.
New York and San Fransisco didn't ask to be magnets for homeless people and if they weren't magnets for homeless people the homeless would just be spread out elsewhere.
We have a few choices with regard to the homeless:
We could kill them and process their bodies into Soylent Green.
We could house them and feed them on the public dime.
We could figure out how to reintegrate them as productive members of society.
We could pretend they don't exist and hope the rats eat them.
I have you pegged as a Soylent Green type. Am I wrong?
And just think how badly the homeless problem will be exasperated once unwanted fetuses are forced to be brought to term. Conservatives have a real problem with being able to think their “values” through to their logical conclusions.
Exactly, today’s homeless were once unwanted children, now they poop on SF sidewalks.
You don’t think there is some truth to that?
Overpopulation is the biggest problem we have, it multiplies all other problems
Have you seen a study with that finding?
The productive members of society thingy works for me.
Don't be so sure that there isn't a study.
The Pelosi's are wealthy and probably live in a gated community. Surely they have pretty decent security both private and electronic that would prevent a perp from being on the property or in the house. Something smells fishy here.
Seriously? You think an 82 year old man volunteered to get hit in the head with a hammer so his wife could hold onto her congressional majority?
Why would you think that an attack on her husband increases the Dems ability to hold the House next year?
I don't.
But our fellow NT user is speculating in 3 there is a whiff of false flag about the incident.
I guess the alternative is that Paul Pelosi is tired of being referred to as "Mr. Nancy Pelosi" and would like to hasten her retirement.
Yes, I read that but didn't discern a speculation on motivation.
A false flag operation is one that seeks to attribute blame to someone else.
The attributed blame is the goal.
If you got as far as noticing the false flag speculation why didn't the rest of the conclusion follow?
Because that speculated motive makes as little sense to me as you said it does to you.
I don't know about you but at this point I would like to hear from Navy Doc exactly what he thinks the fishy smell is about.
Well Pacific Heights is very close to SF Bay so a fishy smell isn't surprising. Perhaps he is also curious about how a likely mental case was able to gain entry into this $8.5M house.
"I'm here to check on your alarm system, Mr. Pelosi. Look, I've got a hammer..."
I never used the words "false flag", you did. My only meaning was that it seems the perp should not have been in the house. You are free to surmise whatever you wish but please refrain from attributing your words to me.
Well, if you don't want people wondering what you meant you shouldn't leave the house for a walk and come back later.
Should not have been in the house because it looks like an inside job?
Because there should have been a marksman with a rifle at the perimeter of the lawn?
Because there was a "Keep Out!" sign on the lawn?
It's been a long day waiting for you to clarify your thoughts.
Instead of decrying political violence and wishing Mr Pelosi a speedy recovery the far rigtwingers will twist themselves into knots to create any pretext to blame Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats for one of their own behaving reprehensibly, again.
Its deplorable and despicable and their MO
When did David register as a Repub?
Exactly, hammer attacks in the middle of the night have become all too common.
I have lived through people breaking into my apartment in the middle of the night (while I was sleeping there) twice. Two different apartments and around a decade apart.
Fortunately, neither incident resulted in a direct confrontation.
In the first incident the police showed up after the intruder left and they pointed loaded guns at ME.
In second one they saw me and went back out the bathroom window.
But after that second break-in, I had a LOT of trouble sleeping at night. I had to move out of that apartment.
My heart goes out to Mr. Pelosi. He has suffered physical injuries but my guess is that his body will heal faster than his psychological trauma.
Pacific Heights is pretty much the highest point in SF and as such has great views but rarely smells like much more than car exhaust.
This funny looking Federalish style house with the odd bay window was purchased for 2.3 million. Speculation is that it could be worth 6 million if it were listed today, not $8.5 million.
It has the same public access as any other house that is 8 feet from the street.
I regret this comment now. At the time I wrote it I did not imagine that Mr. Pelosi actually got struck in the head with the hammer or suffered a fractured skull and other injuries.
In fact, it sounded to me like the police showed up right away and grabbed the man with the hammer.
I think was projecting a bit too much from the couple of times I lived through a break and entry while I was asleep in my bed. In neither instance was I physically assaulted. But both instances left me quite jumpy at night for a long time.
Nothing funny happened here. I just talk too much on the internet.
Considering her position and I am sure she receives many threats, it is odd that there wouldn't be better security.
Maybe madam speaker feels her husband is expendable after his DUI embarrassment. She may have pulled his security.
Even the best locks won't keep out a determined mischief maker.
Yeah but no alarm system?
refer to 3.3
no security system is perfect
sounds like some of you don't think this actually happened. If it had been a republican you all would be giving tots and pears
I know people that just turn off the alarm when they get home, then set it again at night.
You would be wrong in my case. I was asking a question. And depending on where Mr. Pelosi was at the time, it may have been quick perhaps it happened really quickly. Come to think of it, the police showed up. I doubt he had the time to call them. Maybe they did have an alarm system.
Maybe he forgot to reset it? It was 2:30 in the morning..
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I guess you missed the ? at the end of the sentence.
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After the DUI conviction, he said, "I'll just stay home and get hammered."
True, but a well trained guard dog sure would help.
The police responded to some sort of alarm but it reads to me like it was one of those life-alert systems you get for mom so she can live independently while she as at risk for a fall.
I do think this is an eyebrow raising part of the story.
The speaker of the House is next in line for the presidency after the VP and her husband's security while she is out of town is a life-alert pendant around his neck?
Funny as a heart attack there squiggy
There's something wrong with you
I'm reading now that Paul Pelosi called 911 to report an intruder.
Don't know why early reports characterized the police response as a "wellness check,"
Early reports are almost always incomplete or wrong.
Read comment 14
What's funny about a drunk old man rolling down a public way with a deadly weapon?
So it's HIS fault he MAY have been drinking in his own home? Yes, I am sure that's it. Whenever I hear of a story like this, my immediate thought is, "was the victim drinking"?
/sarc off
Works against rape victims.
Apparently when he called 911 the intruder was right there as he started talking to the police and he spoke to the 911 operator in a manner that the operator would understand there was a problem.
The reason it was called a "wellness check" is the 911 operator suspected something was wrong even though Mr. Pelosi did not come right out and say, "There is an intruder in the house and I need help."
The internet, being a nosy person's wet-dream, has pictures of Nancy's house online:
The house is worth 6.9 million and for some reason they have a 33k mortgage on it.
An ugly house for the price.
They probably figured it would be easy to secure.
Maybe they are just nice people who assume that when someone rings your bell at 2:30 in the morning it is because they are in distress and need help.
It's very plain
The only thing I wonder about all this is why they dont have a live in bodyguard.
Maybe they can’t afford them.
trolling
What is your speculation, carelessness?
Probably quite a few congressional members have almost no security beyond some retail alarm system.
This is the sort of incident that can spawn copy cats.
"It cant happen here."
Exactly, didn’t some get shot at while practicing baseball several years ago?
San Francisco, seriously?
Didn't a school get shot up a few years ago?
Nancy has bodyguards but she was in Washington. Her husband does not get government paid for bodyguards. Also, most people turn off their alarms while they're home during the day, they don't want the alarms going off every time they open a window or go out to a patio or backyard. There really isn't anything 'fishy' here other than the smell coming from the slimy shit wad fascist who clearly listens to rightwing conservative media and wallows in rightwing conspiracy theories which likely motivated him to attack an 82-year-old man with a hammer.
On the outside maybe, but I'd be willing to bet it's pretty spectacular on the inside.
I'm beginning to wonder if their security plan while Nancy was out of town is a "life-alert" pendant around her husband's neck:
I think Medicare even pays for those things.
Nancy and Paul Pelosi have a net-worth of around $114 million, according to Wikipedia.
I'm not saying it all came from insider trading.
Oh, heck - I'm saying it all came from insider trading.
But that hardly matters today.
Spend a few of those $114 million bucks on security so we don't have to read about this twice..
Funny how you cite the one instance of violence against an alleged conservative.
But according to some DP it 'smells fishy' plus your usual victim blamers
It wasn't funny to those involved.
to maintain their FICO scores.
My wife was debt free for a decade and when the car finally died, she could not buy another without a cosigner - her FICO score had disappeared.
Oh FFS.
Are you implying this was staged?
Again, FFS
No, he wasn't.
3.1.9
Not at all.
Very much so.
Absolutely incorrect. The Federalish style home is large and right on a public street. There are almost always protests and sometimes significant property damage by said protestors who cannot be prevented access to the street or sidewalk in front of the home.
Granted but they cannot keep people off of the public sidewalk or prevent street parking in front of their street side house.
Already explained but police are usually only a block away. The Northern police station is
roughly 8 blocks away. EMT from St Francis Hospital is about the same distance to the west.
Not really.
I respect your right to your opinion, just as I am entitled to mine. You have a good day.
You must not know the difference between facts and opinions.
My opinion is born from the experience of living nearby for 4 years.
You have a good day as well.
Understood and I stand rebuked. Thank you.
Thoughts and prayers:
I guess we could start with not breaking into their house in the middle of the night with a hammer.
I am surprised the usual suspects haven't started the usual shit about thoughts and prayers being worthless.
Must be because Biden is a Democrat.
I hope Mr. Pelosi make a full recovery and his assailant is convicted and imprisoned.
I wonder what his bail will be?
One dollar?
We? I thought that the initial investigation revealed one arrested intruder.
Do you think Biden was asking David Depape to respect the Pelosi's privacy?
If that's the case, I can't wait for him to start direct negotiations with Putin.
No, I wondered about your use of "we",
Fine.
"We" means everyone but you.
I just found this about the suspect:
David Depape, Paul Pelosi Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
A Castro loving nudist?
Well he will only be seeing his kids through bars now.
Sorry, no cash bail, he’ll be home before Paul Pelosi
So yes, they can still hold people.
Is he a serious risk to public safety or just a single person? If you can show where everyone who has committed domestic violence is still in jail before trial that might mean something.
you don’t think the Pelosi’s deserve special treatment do you?
Someone that poses a threat can be detained, contrary to how some believe.
It is only you that thinks someone attacking someone with a hammer and would be held in jail is special treatment.
It is special treatment if all the people who assault others aren't also kept in jail! How can you not see the hypocrisy in that?
Depends on circumstance. You are acting like every murderer gets out for free.
Just not the case, so you delve into bias.
If you are going to act like this would be the only case where someone is held, you would be mistaken.
If he gets out, I would think it would be up to the DAs office.
Only if they refuse to charge him, In America bail is decided by either the legislature, or the Judge. it is NOT set by the DA. they can only request it on bended knee.
The DA can decide whether or not to ask the judge to comply with their request.
I don't even know what you are arguing about anymore.
There are parameters set. I think you are just trying to argue for argues sake...
Wanna bet he won't? This attack was made on The Pelosis.
Cashless bail is only for attacks on small business owners or a middle-aged woman on a bus just trying to get to/from her job.
There's something wrong with him. These victim blamers and "it smells fishy' bullshit
That's exactly it ender
Am I the only one here that ever gives you an "exactly"?
Was Nancy against Castro and nudism?
I’m 100% against Nancy being nude.
Nude Nancy? Those pics of her almost falling out of her bathing suit on her Italian vacay this year were creepy enough!
My eyes my eyes!
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a. Navy Vet
b. Proud Hispanic
c. Common sense thinker
d. All of the above
My thanks.
Bastard! You knew I would have to google that.
If the motive was robbery the right will say San Francisco is not safe.
If the motive was random the right will say we dont pay enough attention to mental health.
If the motive was political the right will say it is a false flag.
Or just realize that it's a shit hole city and the crime they deny finally made it to their door.
If the motive was red the right will say it was blue. This is the story of their existence.
You think that a color can be a motive?
I think color has been a motive since 1619.
Blueman against redman.
Not as safe as rural or suburban areas but around average for large cities except maybe for car break-ins.
Isn't that true?
Castro or nudity?
Cops are saying when they got there they BOTH both had hammers and the guy took Pelosi's and started beating him. While the cops were there!!
Yes, they each had hammers. Maybe Paul was hanging some paintings in the middle of the night?
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They say, if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Do they now? I'm holding a hammer and you look like a pancake ... must be your lucky day.
Too bad, I prefer that sweet Canadian maple syrup.
They'll rip you off. It's only $18 a quart in some general store in Middlebury.
They?
A swarm of 'we' to some in these parts.
Exactly
The voices in their heads?
Conjoined twins?
I'm so glad that Biden immediately offered his thoughts and prayers. Very statesmanlike and kind gesture. I can't recall if he immediately or ever did the same when Kavanaugh's and Zeldin's homes and families were under attack? The assassination attempt on Zeldin, maybe?
identified the alleged attacker as 42-year-old David DePape .
reached two of the man's relatives who told CNN he is estranged from his family. A review of his FB page shows he posted memes and conspiracy theories about Covid, the 2020 election, and the 1/6 attack.
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Oh that settles it then , its a false flag
The attacker was a pro-Trump election denier.
What a shock !
Yup.
Former friend Linda Schneider "received “really disturbing” emails from DePape in which he sounded like a “megalomaniac and so out of touch with reality,” she said. She said she stopped communicating with him “because it seemed so dangerous,” adding that she recalled him “using Biblical justification to do harm .”
David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen.
Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. “The death rates being promoted are whatever ‘THEY’ want to be promoted as the death rate,” one post read."
DePape also posted links to YouTube videos with titles like “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress !!!” and “Global Elites Plan To Take Control Of YOUR Money! (Revealed)”
Two days after former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of killing George Floyd, DePape wrote that the trial was “a modern lynching,” falsely indicating that Floyd died of a drug overdose.
Other posts from the last few weeks featured videos accusing LGBTQ people of “grooming” children, and declared that “any journalist saying” there is no evidence of election fraud “should be dragged straight out into the street and shot.” The most recent post – linking to a YouTube video comparing colleges to cults – went up the day before the Pelosi attack.
Alleged Pelosi attacker posted multiple conspiracy theories | CNN Politics
So pretty much just another MAGA inspired fascist whose been regurgitating much of the same rightwing insanity we regularly see from conservatives here on NT.
Isn’t it obvious that the same cabal that has the power to make Democrats rape and eat babies would also have the power to force David DePape to attack Nancy Pelosi’s husband with a hammer? Duh.
See how violence against Democrats is celebrated by some here?
Who do you see celebrating here?
But, but, but something 'smells fishy'
I love the Red Boat fish sauce or are you smelling something else?
I think all of us are a bit confused by how easy it was to break into Pelosi's house and attack her husband.
She's second in line for the presidency and she and her husband have a net-worth of $114 million and somehow a deranged fool broke into her home in the middle of the night.
If wealth and power don't protect you from a crazy fool then what does?
It didn't protect George Harrison or John Lennon either.
If wealth and power don't protect you from a crazy fool then what does?
3 center mass.
George Harrison didn't get shot.
Neither did John Pelosi.
Is there an incident where George Harrison as harmed by a deranged fan that I am unaware of?
Or are you just doubling down out of habit?
The harrowing moment George Harrison was stabbed in the chest by a burglar
Isn't it amazing how the media hasn't figured out the Jan 6 pipe bomber, the Supreme Court Leaker, a single one of Epstein's clients, the motive of the Las Vegas shooter but they knew Paul Pelosi's midnight visitor was "MAGA" before both could get their underwear back on?
He may be referring to John Lennon [Deleted]
It wasn't lost on the Beatles that they were playing with fire somewhere out there in the fringes of their audience.
For the most part, I think they tried to play responsibly with that fire. But John was murdered, George was attacked, and Charles Manson lorded over his cult with a race war fantasy he centered around The White Album.
How does this relate to politics?
I don't think the GOP is playing responsibly with fire and they know it.
82-year-old Paul Pelosi is attacked by some nut case and is in the hospital with a fractured skull and other injuries.
I hope that he recovers and can return to a life without any long term complications.
Yes, but all that has not stopped the far rightwingers from continuing to dehumanize the perp's intended victim Speaker Nancy Pelosi...
Thank you for saying this.
We all need to acknowledge this before chasing down this or that thread in this story.
Well, thank goodness someone else here finds no humor in bashing an 82 year old man's head in with a hammer.
I hope he gets better soon, too.
When the facts make them defenseless, all they can do is try and make fun of it.
It's deplorable and not at all humorous
The SFPD had a press release and the guy broke in the back french doors by breaking the glass and was confronted by Paul Pelosi. Pelosi had phoned 911 and left the phone on while talking to the attacker. The 911 operator sensed there was a lot more to the conversation than she was hearing and immediately called the police as a high priority. They arrived and Pelosi and the attacker were struggling for the hammer, (there was only one hammer) the police shouted to drop the hammer when the attacker got control of it and hit Pelosi on the head and also damage to his hands and arms. The police tackled and subdued the attacker.
The police said the 911 operator with a lot of experience was able to ''read between the lines'' and put it on the highest priority.
Pacific Heights where they live has its own security.
That should end a lot of the BS speculation.
It doesn't sound like it is a gated community, though. It sounds like a neighborhood in San Francisco where any American is allowed to walk down the public streets and not need a reason any deeper than that they are sight-seeing or merely passing through.
I'm speculating that a crazy man could get past Pacific Heights "security" and break into the Pelosi's home in the middle of the night.
And I don't bring that up to blame anyone. I'm just a bit concerned that we just witnessed a quite a security vulnerability for America. Maybe congress needs to think about this a bit.
When I went Googling for "where does Nancy Pelosi live" I got a lot of hits on Quora. The top answer was usually something like, "I hope this person isn't asking this for the wrong reasons."
But then I just found it in a website dedicated to homes of rich and famous people, with stats as if it was a Zillow listing. That's where the pictures in comment 3.4 came from.
Anyone with access to the internet can find out where Nancy Pelosi lives and anybody can walk down her street in San Francisco.
It is not a gated community.
This incident was just as predictable as the aftermath…welcome to the new reality, where violence against one another is somehow politicized and thus inexplicably excused…all in the context of the largesse of our comfortable lives. It is only going to get worse and it is exactly what we have wrought.
Time for some contemplation rather than conflagration.
Who has excused it?
You know what, wry…you represent the problem we face today in dealing with real issues. Offering no constructive opinion or possible solution, as that would take thought…only the continual questioning after the fact.
It’s okay if that’s your shtick, but know being a contrarian antagonist gets stale rather quickly in the obvious lack of substance. Feel free to carry on, but do so in recognizing the shallowness in which you wish to wallow.
You asserted that folks excused this violence, I asked you who had done than.
I don’t have a constructive opinion because I’m unaware of whom you are referring to.
Possible solutions might include better mental health treatment.
I’m shallow where you are so deep. We complement each other.
This line looks like a pretty good attempt at excusing the violence:
I have to admit that the violent criminals chanting, "Where's Nancy?" are becoming all too frequent.
Perhaps more an explanation than an excuse.
As an explanation it is pretty much a whataboutism.
There has always been violent crime, like robbery, murder, and rape, that we depend upon our civilized institutions to protect us from. There is no doubt in NYC and New York State, where I live, that crime is up. It could possibly cost our governor the election in a few days. Hoping a problem will just go away on its own is always a bad plan.
But this deranged individual who broke into the Pelosi's home would have fit right in with these deranged individuals breaking into the Capitol Building:
What is really problematic is that one of our major political parties is looking to harness both their insane beliefs and their willingness to do exactly what they are doing in this picture.
I'll be the first to admit that the Democrats were negligent when they failed to shout down people on the left who said crazy things like "looting can be an example of social justice" (paraphrase) during the pandemic lockdowns. But when it comes to political violence in America putting this crazy Qanon stuff in the same pot with the crazy Antifa stuff is a horse and rabbit stew.
I see you offer no constructive opinion or possible solution. Just jumping off the deep end.
Just out of curiosity, how do you figure that comment is making excuses?
Are you talking to me or looking at a mirror?
You don't know how the conversations work?
Other views, and probably the correct ones.
I think the misunderstanding being explored with regard to the house he supposedly lived at being decorated like it is owned by a left winger is that Mr. DePape did not live in the house. He lived in a dilapidated school bus outside the house. He was basically homeless.
He had a connection to the people in the house but they had him living outside in a dilapidated bus.
As far as the nonsense being speculated upon by Townhall.
Sleeping in underwear is common. Mr. Pelosi was sleeping in his bedroom in his underwear at 2 in the morning.
What is wrong with you people?
Mr DePape admitted to intending to tie up Mr. Pelosi so he could get some sleep. He intended to wait in the Pelosi residence until Nancy got home.
Then after a struggle he beat Mr. Pelosi unconscious with a hammer.
Again,
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
I blame Reagan and Brown, GOV Reagan closed CA mental health facilities 55 years ago and GOV Brown started empty his prisons around 10 years ago. No one has reversed either action.
The desperation to blame this on Trump is hysterical. As you said, Reagan closed mental hospitals and Brown emptied the jails and San Francisco sanctuary shielded this illegal from deportation, so it’s obvious that it’s Trumps fault.
What is the opposite of "burying the lede?"
Uh-huh,.. so in these partisan times these liberals, in CALIFORNIA took pity on this MAGA from Canada and let him crash in a dilapidated bus on the property? Nice of them....
There is a chicken and egg thing going on. Did Trump create an army of crazy assholes from scratch or just exploit those who already existed?
Resurrecting the lede?
I’m going with exploit, just like the nut bags who came out during the Kavanaugh hearings. They have always been there. Jones town, Heavens gate. Westboro Baptist.
we have no shortage of crazies.
I see said the blind carpenter as he picked up his hammer and saw.
speaking of jonestown
Honestly John, it’s 2022.
and that makes it better ? lol.
Exactly, James Warren Jones, the Peoples Temple, San Francisco in the 70's.
Willie Brown, Kamela's one time old man friend and mentor called Jones a “close personal friend and highly trusted brother in the struggle for liberation.” Tom Hayden hailed Jones for his “high standard of ethics and morality,” and the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner named him “Humanitarian of the Year.”
If I remember correctly, Candidate Jimmy Carter's wife met with Jim Jones and his fans included . a Gov. Jerry Brown, Lt. Gov. Mervyn Dymally and Congressman Phil Burton. San Francisco Mayor George Moscone appointed Jones commissioner of the city’s Housing Authority. San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk wrote that he had found “greatness ... at Jim Jones’ People’s Temple.”
I don't think him being homeless is the the most important thing to notice about him.
He also doesn't seem to have had much interaction with the authorities up until now.
But there is a certain relationship that easily deranged minds have with media and the internet. Put the crazy out there and it will find a home in a mind like DePape's.
Put target signs over politicians on a campaign ad and maybe one of them will get shot.
Wink at all this Qanon stuff and someone will take a break from performing exorcisms on their kids to plot the kidnapping death of an elected official.
Perhaps CA had bigger fish to fry.
Does the Bay area do that?
That's the point.
You can't flag someone as a problem if they haven't done anything significant.
There's no law against living in a bus on your ex's property, although the rich and poor, alike, are forbidden from sleeping under bridges.
Why do you put so much energy into your schtick?
Anyone with access to the internet can find their way to someone winking at Qanon. Some of the people winking at Qanon are elected officials.
Then you made it well.
This takes little to no energy for me, does it for you?
None that I vote for.
Yeah, actually.
Am I the first to complain?
This country is sickened with people playing endless word games about politics. People who know better should do better.
A bit of a coincidence, I am watching the Netflix documentary, "Thirteenth," so I can discuss it with a friend who needs to watch it (in addition to a ton of reading) for a course.
It draws a straight line from the exception for compulsory labor in the 13th amendment to our ballooned prison populations of today.
Complain, no you asked a question.
No people were harmed in the making of my comment.
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Well then the damage is very limited.
So the Pelosi attacker maybe an illegal immigrant? I wonder if the city officials providing sanctuary to this illegal feel any culpability.
An illegal immigrant doing his best to Make America Great Again, one dead Democrat at a time.
This changes everything!
I doubt MAGA's are allowed to enter Berkley without proper papers...
Seven years of HS down the drain.
Ahhh well, Tots and pears...
I doubt MAGA’s accept illegals, but keep swinging. You might get lucky.
Big Bambu, Zig-Zag, Top, e-z wider or am I showing my age?