Accuracy in Media nails teachers still trying to teach CRT

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  one week ago  •  119 comments

Accuracy in Media nails teachers still trying to teach CRT
Jesse Watters: We caught teachers rebranding CRT

Here they are: Our indoctrinated teachers laughing about how they intend to trick parents and the law.  They are doing it in a more subtle way. You know, teaching your children that they are either racists or victims.

They got caught courtesy of Accuracy in Media:



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one week ago

Another reason why we need Ron DeSantis!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one week ago

What is this 'accuracy in media' according to Jesse Watters?

What the huh?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    one week ago

jesse watters is the plan B for FOX, you know, the Fraternity Of Xenophobia. he's in the batter's box for when fucker carlson, hannity, or whoever gets too close to the ledge, goes over, and can't get back on. they need another interpreter of daily developed white supremacist policy to keep rattling the cages of the republican base until the traditional election season starts.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.2  CB   replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    one week ago

They are all, and I do mean all, vying for to be the next "Tucker" Carlson. That is, putting asses in seats for ranking purposes. And Carlson is escalating and hyping $hit so high that he is in orbit above the earth broadcasting his politically incendiary 'smut.' One can guess what Watters is going to say and 'do' to get into a higher orbit than Tucker!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    one week ago

That was a waste of 10 minutes. None of the teachers in the video, almost surely taken out of context, says what Watters puts in their mouths. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago

You have proof of that right? 

Please provide a link to it.

Or is this just another attack the source.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    one week ago

Proof of what? I watched the video. Did you? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    one week ago

Denial at its maximum. Quit playing dumb...it's plain as day what they're doing.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
2.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    one week ago
almost surely taken out of context

You made the claim.  Prove it

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    one week ago

"The Defense rests."

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Hallux
Junior Principal
2.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    one week ago

One wonders what happened to all the 'great' conservative lawyers if all you can come up with is a Canadian actor. Must be a neo-neo form of 'accuracy'. This shyte did not sell a year ago and here the 'author' is trying to retread it out of the discount bin. P.T. Barnum would have a field day with the all the whitewashing including that of DeSantis.

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devangelical
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2.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    one week ago

LOL, black/white, just like this ridiculous article...

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.1.7  Ender  replied to  devangelical @2.1.6    one week ago

The only thing I get out of all this is this from conservatives.

We are teaching Black history...Ok, I don't like it but what can I do...

There is an actual thing called White privilege...Hell no, you are not going to disparage White people. We are going to make laws about this...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Ender @2.1.7    one week ago

funny how a more accurate portrayal of american history is only an issue in specific locales and demographics...

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.1.9  Ender  replied to  devangelical @2.1.8    one week ago

Oddly this is all not very long ago. They are all acting like it is ancient history.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
2.1.10  Hallux  replied to  Hallux @2.1.5    one week ago

Taunting [Perrie Halpern R.A.] 

My apologies, I keep forgetting that some here are snowflakes wrapped in gossamer onion skin.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.11  CB   replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    one week ago

Easy enough, run the video without the "cutaways" and Watters obnoxious commentary and let ". . .You decide" —Now, how about that?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.12  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.3    one week ago

So predictable.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
2.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.1.12    one week ago

I know. Some people like to make claims but are unable to back them up with facts. But you probably already know that.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.14  CB   replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.13    one week ago

Well, you know RDTCenter, this "process" could be speeded up if one can run the video with Watters' commentary, cutaways, and what could be voiceovers. Can you find a 'clean' version of what you support to show us and yourselves?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.15  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    one week ago

I watched the video- you are living in leftist la la la.

They flat out admitted it repeatedly and loudly; and laughed about it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @2.1.10    one week ago

Ya!  They dish it out but cannot take it

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago

Each one of them said we'll find a way. There is no way to defend them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    one week ago

A way to do what? I think there was one guy in there who mentioned critical race theory by name. There is no context to these video clips. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    one week ago

Even F Lee Bailey couldn't plead ignorance. Yup, as that first one said "There is more than one way to skin a cat."

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.2.3  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    one week ago

Each one of them said "something" but the multiplicity of cutaways leave "pregnant pauses" for anything to be sliced together. There is even ridiculous ("nervous"?) laughter spots which are obviously speeded up to make the speaker sound giddy or "shifty" - maniacal?

I'm sorry, but the biggest blunder in the video seems to be teachers/staff talking to someone who they may or may NOT have known was "Accuracy in Media" and clearly they did not know they were on CAMERA (they should get a lawyer and sue?).

This video is propaganda, plain and clear. It is presented as propaganda with all the flair and flourishes Jesse Watters can give it. The 'plan' is to get it out there-sell it to those who are primed already to agree with its premise (and not question how or why) and let the truth catch up to it down the line.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @2.2.3    one week ago
This video

If it wasn't for covid, we might never have known!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one week ago

Known what?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.2.6  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.4    one week ago

What is it you think you know?! Covid-19: What does it have to do with this? Don't be too pithy in your reply (if any)!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago

Yeah and who says faux news provides accuracy in media?

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Greg Jones
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2.3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @2.3    one week ago

Just those that project, deflect, and deny.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @2.3.1    one week ago
Yeah and who says faux news provides accuracy in media? - tessylo

Just those that project, deflect, and deny.

exactly.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago
That was a waste of 10 minutes.

And yet here you are.  

almost surely taken out of context

Not like you are going to prove they are taken out of context.  Just gotta feebly attempt to make excuses.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.4    one week ago

when you show ten seconds of what was a two or three minute conversation you are taking it out of context.

troll somebody else. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.4.1    one week ago

So, yet again, you can't back up your claims and make unfounded accusations (not that it's anything new).

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    one week ago

There has never been a time in America when racism was not a prominent feature of our national viewpoint. Never, not even for one decade, but still we have white people who object to telling this to students. They are ashamed, and they dont want their kids hearing that grandma or great grandma blocked the doorway so black kids couldnt enter an all white school or stood on the sidewalk screaming racist words at a Martin Luther King march. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    one week ago

Stop John. We are not letting anyone do this to our children.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    one week ago

Stop telling the truth?

Show some proof that teachers tell little white kids that they are racist or shut the f up. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    one week ago
Show some proof that teachers tell little white kids that they are racist or shut the f up. 

I have!

Ok, I'll do so again, but I warn you, you'll have to watch more film:

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    one week ago

Watch MORE lies and bullshit and mis/disinformation from faux news?

Why the fuck would anyone watch more lies?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    one week ago

Dont show me any more videos Vic.  I said show some proof that teachers tell white kids they are racist.  The video you just put up does not contain such proof . 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    one week ago

Here is more evidence...from the horse's mouth:



Or how about this:





I have plenty of evidence...

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Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    one week ago

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JohnRussell
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3.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    one week ago

not watching any more of your videos vic. you misrepresent them. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.8  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.5    one week ago

From the link.

Critical race theory is a study in academia based on the concepts of systemic and institutional racism. Systemic racism refers to how the government has discriminated against Black, Indigenous and other people of color through unjust policies concerning housing, employment, criminal justice, education and more. From the conception of slavery in America, to the Jim Crow laws that segregated Black people, to the disproportionate criminalization and brutality against Black Americans, Crenshaw said racism and white supremacy have persevered in the U.S. through law. Even if some discriminatory laws or policies are no longer in effect, she said, they can still impact families for generations.

Is it a lie? I think not.

 
 
 
Hallux
Junior Principal
3.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    one week ago

There are  3,684,000 K-12 teachers in the USA, what only one has to say needs to be taken with a micro grain of salt and not macro dollops of pepper.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    one week ago

The racism of the past, systemic or personal,  is well known and documented.

That is not happening now. Times have changed for the better.

Where is there value in some race hustling progressives continuing to go full in on teaching hate and division between the races.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    one week ago

Very well said Greg

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.2  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    one week ago

So our own history should not be taught because it may upset some people....

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.2    one week ago
So our own history should not be taught because it may upset some people...

It appears many liberals invent words and put them in others' mouths and then attempt to argue their mythical points.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @3.2.2    one week ago

There isn't a damned thing wrong with teaching our history. It is where this bullshit wants the emphasis put. Hell I learned history in grade school and then again in high school and there isn't ANYTHING that they want to emphasize that I didn't learn or deduce for myself. Including slavery and the racism tied to it. There is no need to reinvent the wheel.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.2.5  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.3    one week ago

You know how many times I hear that tripe?

 
 
 
Ender
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3.2.6  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.4    one week ago

Emphasis put? You mean where you don't like?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.2.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @3.2.5    one week ago

One would think you'd take the hint and stop doing it in that case if you are constantly hearing it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.5    one week ago
You know how many times I hear that tripe?

Well, hopefully, each and every time you engage in such practices.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.9  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.7    one week ago

Nope. It is only an excuse I hear when people cannot counter what I said.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.2.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @3.2.6    one week ago

Nope I mean expounding on what SJW's think needs to be pounded into young heads. One can discern from actual history just what the hell was going on. Just as I did and a young'n. Did you read the rest of the post? And did you just learn of slavery and racism since you got older? Or did you understand what was going on 200 years ago?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.2.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @3.2.2    one week ago
So our own history should not be taught because it may upset some people.

Where in his comment did he say that? Nowhere. That is why you read what you don't want to. He never said it and you are reading something into what he didn't state.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.12  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.10    one week ago

So what is it exactly that you think is being shoved down people's throats?

I learned about slavery, the Civil War, we took field trips to old battlefields. Taught about separate water fountains, segregated schools.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.13  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.11    one week ago

That is my interpretation of his comment. If it is false, they could explain why....

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.14  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.9    one week ago
Nope. It is only an excuse I hear when people cannot counter what I said.

When you say someone has made a statement they never did, exactly how would YOU propose we 'counter' that crap?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.15  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.14    one week ago

Not my problem. All I ask is if I am wrong, change my mind. That rarely happens.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.15    one week ago
Not my problem.

You created a problem with your false claims, then doubled down and said we couldn't refute what you made up.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.17  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.16    one week ago

And yet you still have not shown where my claim is false other than to say nuh uh....

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.17    one week ago
And yet you still have not shown where my claim is false other than to say nuh uh...

Well, gee, You said someone stated something when they didn't, which is why we are speaking now.

Have you provided a quote yet to back up your silly-ass claim?

I don't see you doing that!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @3.2.17    one week ago
And yet you still have not shown where my claim is false

The evidence you seek is plainly before you.

Just read the posts prior to your own claiming we said something we didn't and then post where we said what you claimed.

I know you can't.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.2.20  afrayedknot  replied to  Ender @3.2.15    one week ago

“All I ask is if I am wrong, change my mind.”

Well said. 

This is, after all, an opinion driven site. Too often muddled in the impossible quest for verification, given all the misinformation out there. It would be refreshing to just converse, share those opinions without rancor…but I’m just as guilty as anyone else when it comes to showing impatience with the all too frequent idiocy.

That being said, an overdue thank you to the moderators for their herding of wildcats and keeping this place up and running. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.21  CB   replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    one week ago

Please. You conservatives have a lot of gall to tell liberals when and where they should express their sentiments, when you sticking your polticially $hit down/in every hole a liberal 'got'! There is your value-added qualifier! Y'all drone on and on about liberties and freedoms when really all you are interested in is more liberals becoming conservatives. You are not interested in a world where liberals and conservatives work and agree to get along together. Thus, all the policy-prescriptions being generated on the conservative Right to return to a more rigid status quo of rightwing ideology.

Stop the projection onto liberals: We are not going to play on your side of the field and that is the 'final' answer. Period.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.22  CB   replied to  afrayedknot @3.2.20    one week ago
That being said, an overdue thank you to the moderators for their herding of wildcats and keeping this place up and running. 

Emphatically. Keeping disinformation deliberately and delivered with malice in some cases coupled with blatant "argumentation" for its own sake is at time monotonous and will drive even the strong-minded to question "Why me."  Kudos to "staff" for not simply walking away! (Since I don't read every article or visit every column supported by this site: I only know a 'bit' about what they do on an ongoing basis! jrSmiley_124_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.2.23  Jasper2529  replied to  Ender @3.2.12    one week ago
I learned about slavery, the Civil War, we took field trips to old battlefields. Taught about separate water fountains, segregated schools.

Most living Americans have been taught the same. Can you name any places that still have separate water fountains and segregated schools today? I doubt it. Therefore, we Americans have made great strides in eliminating the racism of decades ago.

And THAT is why today's parents don't want their children to AGAIN be segregated into "oppressor" and "oppressed" groups that are taught via radical left DEI/CRT racist propaganda which are promoted by the NEA and AFT union leaders and their state/local affiliates.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.24  Ender  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.23    one week ago

And where is that happening? Where are kids being divided?

Racism will never be eliminated.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.25  CB   replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.23    6 days ago

Now Jasper, shame the 'devil': Tell us you DON'T want the children in your life to be conservative(s) and NOT liberals.  And when you do explain to us what it means (to you) to be a conservative. Please proceed. (You don't even have to make it long, I'll accept pithy.)

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
3.2.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @3.2.25    6 days ago
I’ll accept pithy.

Mighty generous of you, CB, mighty generous.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.27  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.26    6 days ago

You can be pithy too. Go for it. Give it a shot. Answer the question or be exposed as just another hanger-on looking for internet forum 'cheap thrills.'  BTW, substance comments are where the real action is! I'm just saying, Drinker of the Wry: It gets better!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4  CB     one week ago

Jesse Watters, Jesse Watters, Jesse Watters is ADDING ("peppering")  commentary in his own words which pollutes everything that is being said. BTW, who EDITED the footage? How 'chopped' up is it and what of what these teachers said is 'left on the cutting room' floor?  We all remember that other guy who supposedly dressed like a pimp or something to go ask questions at an ACORN office about pimps/prostitutes/taxes.  It was not what it marketed itself to be!

What Jesse Watters is doing is typical pathological 'fare' which he indulgences in by "sprinkling" his commentary with works like "war," "rebranding," with banners like, "This is how you destroy a country." 

Fox News has no agency on this. That being said, they are playing to a populace that believes, loves to believe, liberals are the bane of the United States.

As for this "presentation on Jesse Watters show, I don't know what to accept as legitimate journalism, because Fox News is known for stupid 'stunts' happenings like this. One even has to wonder if they should have been recording teachers/staff anyway. And of course, what is left out that does not fit Fox News' or Watters' agenda and 'air time' allotted.

Teachers, generally, are good people. Presenting their words out of context and as a pretext to add (pepper) commentary (put words in their mouths) is unfair, cheating, and obnoxious!

Worse, this is evidence of at least one thing that is said often about the media-especially television media- manipulation of stories and 'making' people appear to say what they did not say and certainly did not mean-without getting greater clarity in real-time interviews and just running 'bad' video makes all media look bad!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  CB @4    one week ago

Jesse Watters says a lot in this video, almost all of which is his opinions and not anything that came out of the teachers mouths. 

But evidently that sort of gaslighting is good enough for some. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.1  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one week ago

It is well-known that conservatives (MAGAns especially) are vying for a return to some past grandeur of theirs 'chosen' from all of U.S. history. Thus, it is not surprising MAGAns see citizens working to be out from under their political strong-arm tactics and strategies as being agitators and divisive troublemakers. That said, I reject their claim to call out good as bad! And my, my, all the grandstanding . . . is just 'cray-cray.'

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @4    one week ago

And here's one for you:

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.1  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2    one week ago

Well, all I can say is this: Dr. King had an education too, did he not? And yet, he encountered and faced down systemic racism in the 60's. There have been 'tons' of blacks and other minorities who have done the same and continue to do so>>>making a 'hole' for this "black father" to stand in in society. And it appears "bite the hands, plural, that opens doors for him and his.


Madame C. J. Walker  (December 23, 1867- May 25, 1919)  ‘The first Black woman millionaire in America’

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Walker moved to Denver, Colorado, in 1905, with just $1.05 in savings in her pocket. Her products like Wonderful Hair Grower, Glossine and Vegetable Shampoo began to gain a loyal following, changing her fortunes. Charles J. Walker moved to Denver in 1906 and they were married soon after. At first, her husband helped her with marketing, advertising and mail orders, but as the business grew, they grew apart and the two divorced.

In 1908, Walker opened a beauty school and factory in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania named after her daughter. In 1910, she moved her business headquarters in Indianapolis, a city with access to railroads for distribution and a large population of African American customers. She left the management of the Pittsburgh branch to A’Lelia. At the height of production, the Madame C.J. Walker Company employed over three thousand people, largely Black women who sold Walker’s products door-to-door.

‘The first Black woman millionaire in America’

Walker became one of the best-known African Americans and was embraced by the Black press. The success of her business enabled her to live in homes that were a far cry from the one she had grown up in; her Manhattan townhouse became a salon for members of the Harlem Renaissance when her daughter inherited it in the 1920s. Walker’s country home, Villa Lewaro, in Irvington-on-Hudson, was designed by Black architect Vertner Tandy .


And there were other successful blacks and other minorities in U.S. history, including those who served in politics before reconstruction. However, individual successes do not a people advance or explain 'away' problems and issues in society.

The young man is right, we see black success stories all around us-even black billionaires! They make it individually, (like Mrs. C. J. Walker) they are not the norm.

The 'job' of the systems of government is to make success attainable by all and not by those who can 'buck' off a mountain of snares and traps seeking to ruin a person or a company by hook or by crook!

Finally, Mrs. Walker's success, who somehow was able to be a black woman judges on her character, does not SPEAK to a system that allowed for the death of Emmett Till at the hands of white men for what turned out to be a lie of whistling at a white woman; or the Tulsa Riot which destroyed "Black Wall Street" in a massacre in Tulsa, Oklahoma over a misperception that a black man tried to accost/rape a young white woman by bumping into her in an elevator.

Also, Dr. King's education being allowed does not take away from the civil rights work he acomplished. . .and then the systematic racism which led to him being shot down like Lincoln and JFK before him for working in the system to change the system.

Two, several things are known to be in contrast to each other even in parallel which can happen in this life.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.1    one week ago
The young man is right, we see black success stories all around us-even black billionaires! They make it individually, (like Mrs. C. J. Walker) they are not the norm.

Most millionaires make it individually.

Gee, the norm like it is for whites, browns, blacks, and yellows!

Well said!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.3  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.2    one week ago

There is a history of problems with minorities staying in places of success or even unjustifiably having their successes wiped out! However, no one has ever complained that an  occasional black person/minority person can defies odds which are stacked against them! Good for them. The issue is not individual success; the issue is there are systems which remain/are kept in-place which are not corrected to permit passage of a greater percentage of blacks and other minorities!

To be fair, the issue is getting better. However, do not pretend for one moment that there are NOT individuals and groups working to turn back the clock to a time when blacks and other minorities lacked a substantial  'power base' of support and regard in this country. That would be a big lie, because such groups were here before and are left intact in the here and now.

Such groups, parties, think tanks, claiming to care about minorities are the same places which are notorious "gatekeepers" on what is the standard for what a good citizen is and is not! Acting as if they are the only ones fit to make the determination! It's their arrogance on full display; it is rejected!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @4.2.3    one week ago
; the issue is there are systems which remain/are kept in-place which are not corrected to permit passage of a greater percentage of blacks and other minorities!

So your theory is white people set up systems that oppress minorities, but those systems just don't work on minority groups that have surpassed white people in earnings etc? 

What is their antidote to these "systems?"  Hard work? education?  Family? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.3    one week ago
Such groups, parties, think tanks, claiming to care about minorities are the same places which are notorious "gatekeepers" on what is the standard for what a good citizen is and is not! Acting as if they are the only ones fit to make the determination! It's their arrogance on full display; it is rejected!

That kind of sounds like some of the Democratic propaganda we've seen. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.6  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.4    one week ago

Well let me tell you this: You can 'sit' here and type naive questions and comments which misses the issues of poverty and race discrimination and segregation and the like all you wish. However, I will tell you this history has recorded all the efforts of those who had labored and are laboring today to keep minorities "in their places." The fact that a black person or other minorities make it is because of their 'grit.' BTW, that grit and 'grunt' that these minorities exert-conservatives come here and decry it everyday as from 'below' and the work of demons. So which is it?

As for that pathetic SNARK about hard work, education, and family. . . how do you account for the fact that if you are white there was a time (and some play with the notion and politics of regression) when a white majority n this nation preferred blacks work without a wage floor, and not be able to read and write, and would sell our families to the extent that to this day many of us have not way of knowing from which African tribe we hail? I suppose we can go on ancestry dotcom —did you HAVE to go there to trace your family lineage? I think not!

A large group of white conservatives, have 'dogged' blacks and other minorities placement in this society since emancipation. Nowadays, the 'tenor' has changed from okay blacks are not the problem: liberals and democrats are the problem. Interestingly, liberals and democrats just happen to be what a significant mixture of minorities are in politics.

Apparently conservatives don't give a damn about fairness. It is just a 'front' for saying everybody who is not like you is some sort of societal 'knock-out' for which conservatives have licensed to abuse in discussion after discussion.

Well, I have news for you. You will not be allowed to get away with it. Black people and minorities have made it and continue to push 'forward' IN-SPITE of all the dirty tricks, murders, tortures, hatreds, and last but not least, jealousies of conservatives who want to set them back in their secondary status.

Congratulations are in order for every successful minority in this country, past and present! It has not come easily and "hard-work," "education,"and "family" may have played a positive, large role in those successes - but so did a heaving helping of luck that their enemies in the country did not seize upon.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.7  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.5    one week ago

I can't vouch for what you may or may not have seen 'half' the time,Texan1211 so don't worry about it.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.6    one week ago
BTW, that grit and 'grunt' that these minorities exert-conservatives come here and decry it everyday as from 'below' and the work of demons. So which is it?

From ‘below’, demons, do you have quotes or just hyperbole?

did you HAVE to go there to trace your family lineage? I think not!

I did as my family weren’t the best record keepers.

Apparently conservatives don't give a damn about fairness.

That’s your perspective, unfairly or not.

but so did a heaving helping of luck that their enemies in the country did not seize upon.

Luck is a sucker’s bet.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.7    one week ago
I can't vouch for what you may or may not have seen 'half' the time,Texan1211

Are you under the mistaken impression that I asked for you to vouch for me?

so don't worry about it.

I never worry about trifling things.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.10  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.8    one week ago

You are operating on a belief that conservatives/republicans do not demonize liberals-is that right or wrong? Help me understand you better on this fine point. If you balk at or duck the question, I will take it as your agreement with me that conservatives and republicans do it!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.11  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.9    one week ago

Good. Not worrying should make for some very pleasant days!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.2.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.10    one week ago
You are operating on a belief that conservatives/republicans do not demonize liberals-is that right or wrong?

I don’t operate on that belief as stated.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.13  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.12    one week ago

By process of elimination the opposite is true. Of course, you're 'non-committal' because this is all one massive waste of time and 'exercise' anyway. Bye. Hasta Luego!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.2.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.13    one week ago
By process of elimination the opposite is true.

Huh?

Of course, you're 'non-committal' because this is all one massive waste of time and 'exercise' anyway.

What was noncommittal about “I don’t operate on that belief as stated”.?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.15  CB   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.14    6 days ago

. . . .

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Sophomore Principal
4.2.16  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @4.2.15    6 days ago

Exactly, well said CB, short, concise and avoided wasting the readers time.  Thanks.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  JBB    one week ago

Real Headline - Teachers Admit Teaching History 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @5    one week ago

They have nothing, so what else is new?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5    one week ago

No, we already know the history. This is called CRT...not history!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2    one week ago

No jbb is correct, you are wrong Vic, so what else is new?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    one week ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2    one week ago

Critical Race Theory is not taught in public schools and you have no proof it was. Dumb goppers think teaching about slavery and the Civil War is teaching CRT. But, it is not!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5.2.3    one week ago

I've posted many links. Where is your proof of anything?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
5.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @5.2.3    one week ago

It's not called CRT now, but is the same divisive racist bullshit that is being taught little kids in attempt to divide Blacks and Whites and make them hate and mistrust each other.

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.5    one week ago

AKA American Marxism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.6    one week ago

The Chinese Communist Party must be behind it. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Are you related to John Birch ? 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Sophomore Quiet
5.2.8  afrayedknot  replied to  JBB @5.2.3    one week ago

“…think teaching about slavery and the Civil War is teaching CRT. But, it is not!”

Will never understand this line of thinking, for it discourages thinking…parents and educators primary responsibility one would hope.

Recitation of facts is one thing, but questioning those facts in context, and having honest discussions to the cause and effect of any event is the crux of learning, thus understanding, and then empathy. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
5.2.9  Greg Jones  replied to  afrayedknot @5.2.8    one week ago

There are facts....and then there are biased, fabricated, and unsupported opinions being presented as facts. 

What progressives seem to be doing is trying to create misunderstanding and division between the races

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.2.10  Ender  replied to  afrayedknot @5.2.8    one week ago

I can only shake my head. DeSantis has now said he stopped the Black History class because it taught 'queer theory'.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Sophomore Quiet
5.2.11  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.9    one week ago

“trying to create misunderstanding and division between the races”

Create? How about we acknowledge the reality? Ignoring that ‘fact’, for more political than educational reasons only allows the divide to deepen, infecting every aspect of our society. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.12  CB   replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.5    one week ago

Conservatives need to give this up, because its going nowhere. I would encourage conservatives to stop listening and reading propaganda of any and all kinds. It is manipulation and its making y'all really confused and anxious. For the record, don't try to overblow this: "Blacks and Whites" in general are smarter than you give them credit for being in your comment. They know what projection is internally and if anything confuses them it is why conservatives won't stop 'it." Instead being persistent to spread disinformation by any means necessary.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.2.12    one week ago
I would encourage conservatives to stop listening and reading propaganda of any and all kinds.

Okay then.

Will some liberals stop spreading that propaganda?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.14  CB   replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.9    one week ago

What conservatives are doing is multiple vain attempts to turn liberals into conservatives and not just any conservative: MAGA conservatives.  Epic fail.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.15  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.13    one week ago

Don't worry about it, Texan1211. It will all be over after awhile.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.2.16  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.5    one week ago
in attempt to divide Blacks and Whites and make them hate and mistrust each other.

If you study American history, you’ll find that blacks and whites have hated and mistrusted each other for 400 years, and with good reason. Slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, Race riots, civil rights violations, and the fallout from it all. You don’t heal from that legacy overnight, and you sure as hell don’t refuse to learn about it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.17  CB   replied to  Tacos! @5.2.16    6 days ago

These conservatives remarking here are really interesting (not!) with their attempts to message 'clean' hands not drenched and moist with the literal and figurative blood of people-groups, against whom they have been using their 'majority' status in this country to persecute and cause to not advance as much as possible/feasible.

It is not that we distrust them without cause. Conservatives give us cause everyday when they deny our liberal and societal very existence with their chosen ideology which takes no account of us. For not everybody in this country wants (or needs) to be any kind/type of conservative! Despite their intrusiveness, insistence, and persistence.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6  Tacos!    one week ago

Jesse Waters is one of the biggest liars in news media. This video is another great example of that.

He shows a clip of someone talking and then tells you what they really mean. He tells you up front that what you’re about to see is “sinister.” He tells you what to think. He preaches at length about extremist conspiracies with no evidence. Not one teacher in this video explicitly says they want to teach Critical Race Theory and will lie to do it.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @6    one week ago

My opinion on this. Trying to be truthful.

Is there teachers that want and try to teach things they shouldn't? I would say yes. Then I would have to stop. It should be dealt with at a local level. People act like this is rampant in all schools everywhere when that is not the case.

Just like any profession there is going to be people that do what they want to do. I know a teacher that wants to talk out problems with the kids. She thinks and teaches it is better to take these problems head on and deal with them, while her colleague across the hall just yells at them and makes them all put their heads on their desks...

One or two bad seeds in a system of thousands is not the crisis they make it out to be.

It has an impact that they refuse to see. In their rampant yelling and screaming about taking the schools back, all just because of maybe one out of a thousand, they are impacting good teachers and making them all nervous about what they can and cannot say.

They are stifling any discussion that could take place and I have to wonder, for what?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
6.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tacos! @6    one week ago

Examples of Jesse’s bullshit:

They have been secretly teaching CRT

There is no evidence presented of that.

I just told your white son he’s racist . . .I just told you black daughter she’s worthless without reparations.

There is nothing in this video to support those allegations.

CRT is everywhere.

No it isn’t. Again, he presents no evidence to support that claim.

He called teaching CRT the most important work we’re doing.

No, he didn’t. He said something was important, but we don’t know what it was. That was edited out.

There’s a subversion campaign all around us.

No, there isn’t. That is a fantasy. Extreme conservatives just LOVE to imagine that they are victims of persecution or some plot. It gives their lives meaning, I guess.

Principals are going to great lengths to make children hate themselves and hate the country, and they will do whatever it takes.

OMG what a pile of bullshit! Why would that even be true? It’s insane.

Then they get jobs at your kid’s public school and then they tell your child they should be ashamed of themselves.

Uh. Horseshit.

They want to divide and conquer the country so they can control you by guilt and move money around and shut you up so they don’t have to earn anything.

Wwhhaaaatttt?! Marinate in that pile of goo for a while. That is some insane, complicated conspiracy theory shit, right there. I can’t imagine the drugs you have to do get your brain to come up with that one. I’m honestly impressed he wasn’t foaming at the mouth.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @6.2    one week ago

I hate to say it but I almost got Project Veritas vibes.

 
 
 
Have Opinion Will Travel
Professor Participates
7  Have Opinion Will Travel    one week ago

We have firsthand experience that this goes on which is the reason why these LWNJ’s are  going to Denial route right now.

 
 

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