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Study finds white Republicans rank highest on scale of racism | Miami Herald

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  116 comments

By:   Leonard Pitts Jr. (Miami Herald)

Study finds white Republicans rank highest on scale of racism | Miami Herald
For all their hypocrisy in defending Donald Trump or Jan. 6, the one principle Republicans will not compromise is the protection of straight, white hegemony.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


By Leonard Pitts Jr.

Updated September 30, 2022 4:44 PM Jae C. Hong AP Photo

Tell us something we don't know.

Maybe that's an ungenerous way to respond to a study on an important social issue by a respected, non-partisan think tank. But, if you've been paying any attention at all, that may be your instinctive reaction to last week's report from the Washington-based Public Religion Research Institute quantifying that Republicans, as a corporate body, are the most racist folks there are.

In other news, water is necessary for life and Aretha Franklin was a pretty good singer.

Indeed, it's amusing — or maybe "appalling" is the better word — to note that the report was issued only days after a white man appointed by Florida's Republican governor Ron DeSantis as a commissioner in the state's only majority-Black county, abruptly resigned when pictures surfaced that seemed to show him wearing the white robe and pointy hood of the Ku Klux Klan. It also came just after Rolling Stone, citing "Confidence Man," New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman's new book about Donald Trump, reported an episode in which the 45th president, while hosting a reception for congressional leaders, "turned to a row of racially diverse Democratic staffers" and asked them to bring the hors d'oeuvres.

In other words, an ordinary week for the GOP.

The study used 11 questions to tease out respondents' racial attitudes and construct what it called a "Structural Racism Index" scale. The median score on that scale, which runs from 0 to 1, was 0.45. For Democrats, it was 0.27, for independents, 0.45. But for Republicans, it leaped to 0.67. In fact, no matter how they diced up the respondents by party and race, no other group ranked nearly as high. "Republicans" and "white Republicans" — terms that are functionally redundant — tied for the lead. In second place at 0.58? "Republicans of other races."

Again, this is hardly shocking. From the party's scramble to keep Black people from voting, to its performative cruelty toward South American refugees, to its embrace of the most brazenly racist president since Woodrow Wilson, Republican bigotry has long been self-evident.

It is past time for the rest of us to face it, yet one still hears people, even at this late date, even in the face of multiple studies to the contrary, ascribe its descent into its current madness to economic stress. But that just ain't so.

They have become what they are specifically because some of us are panicked at the thought of Black people, brown people, LGBTQ people, Muslim people and other historically disfavored people coming to visibility and power, and the GOP realized that catering to that resentment was a way to win votes. And also because there is no principle they will not abandon in doing so.

Muscular foreign policy? They make kissy faces at totalitarian regimes.

Support for law enforcement? Not when the laws are being enforced against Trump.

Street riots? They hate them — unless the street is Pennsylvania Ave. and the rioters are MAGA.

The one principle they will not compromise is the protection of straight, white hegemony. That's why, in the words of a satirical old Randy Newman song, "keepin' the n------- down" is pretty much the whole Republican platform. This is something the rest of us need to face promptly and squarely if we are to have any hope of understanding — much less fixing — what's wrong with this country. What the PRRI report quantified is damning and sad, yes. But here's one thing it isn't.

It isn't surprising in the least.

This story was originally published September 30, 2022, 1:55 PM.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    last year

"Now tell us something we did not already know".

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    last year

in other breaking news, water is wet...

 
 
 
JBB
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2  seeder  JBB    last year

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2    last year

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JBB
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2.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

The gop has low opinions of Black America!

It is why they are overwhelming Democrats.

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George
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2.1.2  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

A white women just got 5 million because she said someone called her a liar, democrats just said African Americans are only worth 1.2 million for a life time of oppression, democrats no longer thing African Americans are worth 2/3's of whites, they think they are worth less than a 1/4. How racist can you get?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  George @2.1.2    last year

That judgement against Trump was two million dollars for the sexual assault and three million for character assassination.

Your take on it is Russian propaganda...

Crafted to divide America and its voters.

To help Trump and the gop, like in 2016!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

Interesting meme ..... spot on .....

 
 
 
George
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2.1.5  George  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    last year

So democrats only think they are only worth a 1/3, that is so much better. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

You forgot that they also forced them to bear children.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.7  George  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.6    last year

Nobody forces anyone to bear children, is that the latest talking point? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

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JBB
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2.1.9  seeder  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.8    last year

Yet, look who gets points for taunting?

And, on my own article...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  George @2.1.7    last year
Nobody forces anyone to bear children, is that the latest talking point?

Are you claiming that slaves were not forced to give birth to their master's bastards???

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.11  Hallux  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.10    last year

A female slave ran at about $1,000. Get her pregnant and the kid was a freebie, before long you could write her off.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2.1.9    last year

That's one of the reasons I don't spend much time here lately

 
 
 
George
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2.1.13  George  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.10    last year

Deflection fail. 

 
 
 
George
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3  George    last year

The most racist places in the US are democrat controlled, just like the south was under Jim Crow laws, democrats moved North and to nobodies surprise racism moved with them.

Most Racist Cities in America 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    last year

The racist past of the Democrat party is a history that can't be erased or covered up. It continues to this day.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @4    last year

The racist in gop today are the topic for today!

Do white supremacists vote Democratic now?

This is why you want to talk about olde times...

 
 
 
George
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4.1.1  George  replied to  JBB @4.1    last year
Do white supremacists vote Democratic now?

Not only do they vote democrat, they have been 2 out of the last 3 democrat presidents.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  George @4.1.1    last year

Really? 

 
 
 
George
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4.1.3  George  replied to  JBB @4.1.2    last year

Yes Really, I would provide proof but you would just deny the Klansman really meant it. or would deflect.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  George @4.1.3    last year
I would provide proof but

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George
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4.1.5  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.4    last year

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Tessylo
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4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  George @4.1.3    last year

That's all you're doing here, deflecting and projecting and denying

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.6    last year

Nobody cares about the gop's crapola about Democrats from over 50 yrs ago.

It is an insult to everyone's intelligence.

It amounts to dishonesty and to trolling...

No wonder they use it every damn time!

 
 
 
Ender
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5  Ender    last year

Amazes me some can't seem to grasp simple things.

Of course the party of hate has to throw shade and blame at others. It is all they have.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ender @5    last year

The gop can't help showing their racist asses.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @5.1    last year

Just another baseless and untrue accusation

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.1    last year

Just read the conservative's comments!

The gop keeps proving they are racists...

original

 
 
 
George
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5.1.3  George  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    last year

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George
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5.2  George  replied to  Ender @5    last year
Of course the party of hate has to throw shade and blame at others

Glad that you are finally able to see the democrats for what they are.

Remember when the republican candidate for President said that African American women weren't smart enough to raise their own kids?

Remember when republicans said that  African Americans weren't smart enough to get ID's to vote

Remember when republicans said that African Americans couldn't get into college without their help?

Remember when republicans said African Americans couldn't get jobs without their help?

Remember when a republican president candidate said if you didn't vote for me you aren't black?

Those things happened never from republicans, they are all from the party of the klan.

Now we wait for the brainwashed fool to come along and say they switched places in the 60's, but they will have no proof because there isn't any. Just like the Russia collusion bullshit the low functioning bought hook line and sinker.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.1  Ender  replied to  George @5.2    last year

Denial is all you have.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    last year

Let him babble on and on. It isn't working!

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.3  Ender  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    last year

The republican way. Make up their own facts.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ender @5.2.3    last year

Yes, basically anti-American propaganda!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    last year

Well, you can never provide credible facts. Do you expect lies to go unchallenged?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.6  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    last year

Don't forget the projection and deflection thingy

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    last year

Your hate campaign isn't working.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @5.2.4    last year

When you're in a hole, stop digging. jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
George
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5.2.9  George  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    last year

I post documented fact and you claim it's denial? Holy crap the level of denial you are operating under is amazing.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.10  Ender  replied to  George @5.2.9    last year

Documented fact...   Hahaha

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.11  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    last year

Look in the mirror, you’ll see real denial if your eyes are open.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.12  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.11    last year

If you all actually believe affirmative action and other measures were put in place just to say Black people were stupid...

There is really nothing more I can say, except our public education is failing...

 
 
 
George
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5.2.13  George  replied to  Ender @5.2.10    last year

Which one do you deny? 

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.14  Ender  replied to  George @5.2.13    last year

The sad thing is you really believe the shit you posted.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.15  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.12    last year
There is really nothing more I can say, except our public education is failing...

You automatically lose the debate with comments like that.

Liberals who are in denial about the hate and discord being sown by the Democrat party are in ..... well ..... denial.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.16  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.15    last year

What are you even talking about. There is no debate against alternative facts.

If you agree with George's take on things, you really do not understand the measures or why they were put into place.

 
 
 
George
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5.2.17  George  replied to  Ender @5.2.14    last year

Do you lack the courage to point out which one is false? 

 
 
 
George
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5.2.18  George  replied to  Ender @5.2.16    last year

It's not a "take" Do democrats not say that there should be different criteria for African Americans to get into college?

Do demcorats not say that voter ID effects minorities more than whites? why is that?

Did biden not say, if you don't vote for me you ain't black?  Exactly which one of those things do you dispute?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @5.2.3    last year

Then you will have no problem proving that wrong. 

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.20  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.19    last year

Wasting time on bullshit is exactly that.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  George @5.2.9    last year

documented fact is supported by verifiable data such as news links or research

you don't have that

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @5.2.20    last year

That's an odd way of saying that you CAN'T prove anything in 5.2 wrong, [deleted]

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.23  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.22    last year

So you are another one that believes measures like affirmative action was only put in place because people thought Black people were stupid.

Get real...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @5.2.23    last year

I'd agree with you but then we would both would be wrong.  Maybe you should research the statements and questions in 5.2 so you can "attempt" to prove them wrong.

Remember, you are the one that stated:

The republican way. Make up their own facts.

So do something very few leftist's have done and proved the "real facts"

 
 
 
George
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5.2.25  George  replied to  Ender @5.2.23    last year

Not people, democrats, why else would democrats change the qualifications for African Americans? Are you saying that the liberal heads of colleges are racist?

 
 
 
George
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5.2.26  George  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.21    last year

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Video of Biden telling African Americans you ain't black.

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Biden in the debate talking about African American women.

 We bring social workers into homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It’s not want they don’t want to help. They don’t—they don’t know quite what to do!

Fucking racist thinks African American women don't know what to do when raising their own children.

'Racism that is still respectable': Biden attacked over 'record player' remark about black parents | Washington Examiner

Voter ID laws discriminate against racial and ethnic minorities, new study reveals

Voter ID laws discriminate against racial and ethnic minorities, new study reveals (phys.org)

Isn't it strange that these liberal democrats don't think Whites have an issue getting ID's but it's those "Minorities" that democrats feel that are somehow inferior.

You can let me know that you have ignored these links and facts before i give you more that you won't admit exist.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  George @5.2.26    last year
You should probably put me back on ignore, 

Nah...I like to bat your around and make you do your homework.

But good job! You managed to back up your claims. That's more than some can do around here

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.21    last year

he never does

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.29  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.28    last year

No, he did. He provided the links for his comments in

I give credit where credit is due.I'm proud of him

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.30  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.29    last year

The only thing he showed was a study showing voter id impacts minority communities, not sure why he posted that, and rants on Biden.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.31  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @5.2.30    last year

I didn't look at his links. I was trying to bolster his ego

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.32  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.31    last year

Anyone ever tell you, you were too nice.   Haha

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.33  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @5.2.32    last year

I'm actually quite evil

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.34  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ender @5.2.32    last year

I never did...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.35  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.29    last year

I'm not

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @5    last year

The Dems are the party of hate and intolerance. If you follow the news there is evidence of it every day....

 
 
 
Ender
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5.3.1  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @5.3    last year

Yep. The banning books and hating the LBGTQ community seems to be emanating from them...s/

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @5.3.1    last year

The left is heavily into book banning and exploits the LBGTQ for political purposes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    last year

Its not so much that Republicans are racist, its that a lot of conservatives are. 

There was a time when many conservatives were Democrats, but thats not really true any more. 

 
 
 
George
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6.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

Illinois is a hot bed of racists. I guess that is why they have so many republicans in charge.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

Conservatives were kicked out of the Democrat party for not being "woke" enough; not buying into the bankrupting Democrat Green Agenda; and for not being perpertually aggrieved.

 
 
 
JBB
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6.2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @6.2    last year

Bullshit! Nixon's "Southern Strategy" was to welcome racists into the gop's "Big Tent"...

And there they've abided ever since 1972!

 
 
 
George
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6.2.2  George  replied to  JBB @6.2.1    last year

Wrong, Nixons southern strategy was to give the non-klansman a place to go, that's why all the racist democrats like Bird Clinton wallace etc. stayed democrats.  The south gets less racist by year with republicans in charge as the old democrats die off, and the North controlled by democrats is where all the racist cities are now.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @6.2    last year

that's all today's gqp/magats are - perpetually aggrieved and constantly whining and making shit up

 
 
 
JBB
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6.2.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  George @6.2.2    last year

Forgot Jesse Helm and Strom Thurmond?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2.4    last year
Forgot Jesse Helm and Strom Thurmond?

Wow, you were able to find two!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2.1    last year
Bullshit! Nixon's "Southern Strategy" was to welcome racists into the gop's "Big Tent"...

Wrong, again.

Sigh.

 
 
 
George
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6.2.7  George  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.6    last year

 Nixons strategy failed, all the racists stayed democrats.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.2.8  Gsquared  replied to  JBB @6.2.1    last year
Nixon's "Southern Strategy" was to welcome racists into the gop's "Big Tent"...

That is absolutely true.  Some people are so ignorant, or so caught up in their phony propaganda, they have no idea what the history and truth are.

In their book,  The Southern Strategy,   published shortly after the 1970 mid-term elections, Atlanta journalists Reg Murphy and Hal Gulliver wrote a detailed—and critical—account of the strategy in practice. “It was a cynical strategy, this catering in subtle ways to the segregationist leanings of white Southern voters,’’ 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @6.2.8    last year
That is absolutely true.  Some people are so ignorant, or so caught up in their phony propaganda, they have no idea what the history and truth are.

Exactly, it was OK when it was a Dem Southern Strategy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.9    last year

Funny how the Democratic Party seemed more than happy with their Southern brethren as long as it meant control of Congress for Democrats.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.2.11  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.9    last year
it was OK when it was a Dem Southern Strategy

That would be your opinion.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  Gsquared @6.2.11    last year
That would be your opinion. 

Maybe you can provide some examples of Democrats in northern, eastern, or western states chastising and ridiculing their Southern counterparts for their Jim Crow policies and laws.

Maybe just narrow it down to sometime between 1925 and 1960.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @6.2.11    last year

Do you deny that Dems courted the Southern vote?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.2.14  Gsquared  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.12    last year

What has that got to do with anything?   Drinker trolled "it was OK when it was a Dem Southern Strategy", and I highlighted that in his opinion it was OK.  Try to follow.

However, since you are apparently unaware of the pertinent history, and seemingly incapable of doing the research, you can start with learning about what happened when the Democratic Party included a civil rights plank in the party's 1948 platform, which caused a group of southern Democrats to disassociate from the Democratic Party and form the States' Rights Party.  Hubert Humphrey, a Democrat from Minnesota who you may have never heard of, led the floor fight during the convention for inclusion of the civil rights plank. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.2.15  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.13    last year

Why do you think "it was OK" for either party to employ a strategy that panders to segregationists?  You did say "it was OK when it was a Dem Southern Strategy".

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Gsquared @6.2.14    last year
history, and seemingly incapable of doing the research, you can start with learning about what happened when the Democratic Party included a civil rights plank in the party's 1948 platform, which caused a group of southern Democrats to disassociate from the Democratic Party and form the States' Rights Party. 

I know that almost every Dixiecrat promptly returned to the Democratic Party.

I am also not naive enough to think they returned to their own because they somehow thought Republicans were more aligned with their goals.

 
 
 
George
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6.2.17  George  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.16    last year

Democrats demand we teach an accurate history as long as we don’t tell African Americans that they were/are the slave holders and party of the klan.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @6.2.15    last year

Do you think that all Americans don’t deserve representation?

 
 
 
Ender
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6.2.19  Ender  replied to  Gsquared @6.2.15    last year

Who was it that said they were going to lose the south for generations.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @6.2.19    last year

The President of the party who kept it for 30 years. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.2.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.16    last year

As KEvin Williamson wrote:

If the parties had in some meaningful way flipped on civil rights, one would expect that to show up in the electoral results in the years following the Democrats’ 1964 about-face on the issue. Nothing of the sort happened: Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties. Nor did the segregationist constituencies that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans: The remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats. It was, on average, nearly a quarter of a century before those seats went Republican. If southern rednecks ditched the Democrats because of a civil-rights law passed in 1964, it is strange that they waited until the late 1980s and early 1990s to do so
 
 
 
Ender
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6.2.22  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.20    last year

Who said it? Cause believe me, he was right if he was a Democrat. The South has turned solid republican.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.2.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @6.2.22    last year

LBJ. He got it exactly wrong.  He said democrats lost the south  for a generation. In reality, They retained the majority of the southern seats until the 90s.  Republicans didn’t “win” the south for 30 years.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.2.24  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.23    last year

Just because it didn't happen immediately doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.25  cjcold  replied to  George @6.2.17    last year

Forget what the party was called at that particular time.

Conservatives owned the slaves.

Liberals ran the underground railroad.

It's highly disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

Careful George, one might think that you were just here to troll.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.2.26  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @6.2.24    last year

But his prediction was completely wrong and the flip had nothing to do with the civil rights act.  It’s like predicting the Steelers to win the super bowl this year because of Kenny Pickett and taking credit for when they do it in 2055 with a completely different roster.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2.27  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.26    last year

I think he understood exactly what he was saying. The time line only lays out certain aspects.

Do I think the act was the only reason? Of course not. The parties slowly changed over time. One can pretend or try to blame one certain area yet I think most would come to the conclusion that the ideologies of both parties changed over the last half century.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2.28  Ender  replied to  Ender @6.2.27    last year

I have to add another reason I think it began in the 60's. That is when the hippies decided they wanted to join the Dem party and take it over.

Damn hippies.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
6.2.29  Hallux  replied to  Ender @6.2.28    last year

That was the Yippies not the hippies.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.2.30  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @6.2.27    last year

Do I think the act was the only reason? Of course not

i agree.  I’ve had this discussion at least,50 times on this site with people claiming, it was.

Both parties changed over the last half century. 

yes, and no. FDR and the democrats were the progressives 100 years ago.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2.31  Ender  replied to  Hallux @6.2.29    last year

That's right, my bad. Most of the hippies couldn't find their way to the polls.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
7  Greg Jones    last year

"There was a time when many conservatives were Democrats, but thats not really true any more."

The Democrats are now the party of the extreme left. They evidence is right in front of them, but their denial is deep and wide 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @7    last year

Compared to MAGA Reagan was in the far left!

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
7.2  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @7    last year
The Democrats are now the party of the extreme left.

... and Republicans of the extreme right leaving Independents of the extreme center making y'all extremists.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8  Hallux    last year

Racism does not have a fixed party affiliation. It might be wise in these days of pendulum division to stop blaming one side or the other. As a nation you are tearing yourself apart and it is truly sad to watch.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
8.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @8    last year

Agree, racists in both Parties and of all colors.  We’ve gotten good at tearing ourselves apart.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
8.1.1  GregTx  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1    last year
We’ve gotten good at tearing ourselves apart.

Agreed. Wish we could get as good at putting ourselves back together.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1    last year
We’ve gotten good at tearing ourselves apart.

That's the curse of being number 1.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.1.3  Hallux  replied to  GregTx @8.1.1    last year
Wish we could get as good at putting ourselves back together.

You may need a third party to do that but it will need to start on the local/state level, not the national level where the denizens are cannibals.  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
8.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1    last year
 We’ve gotten good at tearing ourselves apart.

Russia has gotten good at tearing ourselves apart.

Putin's propaganda machine now owns the GOP.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
8.1.5  GregTx  replied to  Hallux @8.1.3    last year
not the national level where the denizens are cannibals.  

I disagree. I think at this point in time they're all cannibals, and with the amount of money that the two can bring, the only way to bring a third party in is at the national level. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @8.1.4    last year
Putin's propaganda machine now owns the GOP.

Is there a crackpot website you keep getting this information from?

 
 

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