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Grassley's '17 Recordings' News Brings Burisma Into The Spotlight

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  65 comments

By:   Margot Cleveland (The Federalist)

Grassley's '17 Recordings' News Brings Burisma Into The Spotlight
The Ukrainian owner of Burisma allegedly made 17 audio recordings of conversations with the Bidens, Sen. Chuck Grassley revealed Monday.

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The Ukrainian owner of Burisma allegedly made 17 audio recordings of conversations with the Bidens, Sen. Chuck Grassley revealed Monday from the Senate Floor. Then-Vice President Joe Biden may also have been involved in prompting Burisma to hire his son for a cushy job on the board of directors, according to Grassley's summary of the FD-1023 confidential human source report the FBI continues to withhold from Congress.

These new details, coupled with the House Oversight Committee's subpoenaing of Hunter's business partner and fellow Burisma board member on Monday, place the Ukrainian oil and gas company back in the spotlight of the Biden family pay-to-play scandal.

For the last month, Grassley and House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer have pushed the FBI to release the FD-1023 CHS report that alleged a foreign national — identified by individuals with knowledge of the matter as Mykola Zlochevsky — had bribed the Bidens to influence policy decisions. Zlochevsky, the founder of the Ukrainian oil and gas company Burisma, had allegedly told a "highly credible" CHS, that he paid then-Vice President Biden $5 million and Hunter another $5 million to prompt the firing of a prosecutor looking into Burisma corruption.

The FBI refuses to release the FD-1023, however, prompting Grassley to call for transparency. To that end, the Iowa Republican told the country that "the foreign national who allegedly bribed Joe and Hunter Biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversations with them."

"Seventeen total recordings," Grassley continued. "According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses 15 audio recordings of phone calls between him and Hunter Biden." Another two audio recordings involve calls between Zlochevsky and then-Vice President Joe Biden, Grassley stressed.

Then, after noting that Zlochevsky kept the recordings "as a sort of insurance policy," Grassley added that the same FD-1023 also indicated that "then-Vice President Joe Biden may have been involved in Burisma employing Hunter Biden."

Americans have long known Burisma paid Hunter Biden ridiculous sums of money to sit on its board, but until yesterday, the sham seemed crafted by the Ukrainian company to buy influence with the Obama-Biden administration. Now, however, it also appears the then-vice president had a hand in Hunter's position on the board.

The claims that Zlochevsky possessed recordings — not just of Hunter Biden, but also of "the Big Guy" — suggests we face a serious national security risk, with a compromised president potentially beholden to a blackmailer.

This new revelation makes FBI headquarters' burying of the FD-1023 doubly bad: Not only did the FBI improperly discard the CHS's intel as "disinformation" and thus not adequately investigate the Bidens' activities, but the bureau apparently also failed to consider the need to provide Biden a defensive briefing.

In addition to unveiling these two new important details, Grassley suggested more details will be forthcoming. "I want everyone to remember that I have read the unredacted version" of the FD-1023, the Iowa senator said as he ended his floor speech.

What Grassley will reveal next, however, is but one of the worries for the Bidens. Yesterday also brought news that the House Oversight Committee had subpoenaed Hunter's ex-business partner and friend Devon Archer to testify on Friday.

Archer had sat on the board of Burisma with Hunter. The two were also longtime business partners at Rosemont Seneca. Archer was reportedly "present at meetings Hunter arranged for his foreign business partners to meet with his father or talk to him on the phone." Archer was also famously photographed meeting then-Vice President Joe Biden "in his White House office weeks before Archer and Hunter joined the board of the corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma."

These facts suggest Archer may be able to confirm some of the details provided by the CHS. It seems unlikely Archer will talk, though, with Hunter's former business partner instead likely asserting his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. On the other hand, Archer recently lost his challenge to an unrelated criminal conviction for fraud, and he may see cooperation as more attractive now.

But that presumes Archer has someone to bargain with, and the Biden DOJ is unlikely to want to cut a deal with him. The Republican-controlled House may, however, and while not widely known, it also has the power to grant immunity from criminal prosecution. That might just be what is needed to expose the extent of the Bidens' corruption.

The corruption of the DOJ and the FBI is another matter entirely — hundreds more whistleblowers are needed for that enterprise.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

 Hunter's ex-business partner and friend Devon Archer will testify on Friday.




This is only the beginning.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

Mere deflection from the former 'presidents' SECOND INDICTMENT!!!!

LOVE IT!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    last year
Mere deflection from the former 'presidents' SECOND INDICTMENT!!!!

As adults, many of us here are fully equipped to deal with more than one thing at a time.

I fervently hope everyone joins us one day.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    last year

I'd rather stick nails in my eyes than join you in ANYTHING!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.2    last year
I'd rather stick nails in my eyes than join you in ANYTHING!

I'll let Reality know you won't be joining us any time soon then, okay?

But suit yourself!!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.2    last year
I'd rather stick nails in my eyes than join you in ANYTHING!

See, we do agree on some things!

I would prefer that too!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

allegedly

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    last year

if they really had these recordings they'd be playing them 24/7 on all their propaganda outlets...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    last year

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

The next day Sen Ted Cruz held a top FBI official accountable:


 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

The FBI assistant directors answers to Cruz seem superficially questionable in that he wont directly answer Cruz, but in fact he may be following FBI procedure in not commenting on investigations. 

I think all parties to this fiasco should lay their cards on the table. Maybe Merrick Garland needs to clarify the situation to put wild rumors to rest. Just letting the far right continue to make unchallenged allegations is not going to work in the long run. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year
he may be following FBI procedure in not commenting on investigations. 

Oh please.  The FBI doesn't follow FBI procedure.  That was obvious during the Mueller façade

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year
Maybe Merrick Garland needs

Merrick Garland should have recused himself from all investigations involving Biden or Trump. Biden needed a Special Prosecutor not a Special Counsel who reports to Garland.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    last year

Once you produce some actual evidence I suppose that could be discussed. 

I think Durbin should subpoena Bill Barr and find out what was going on in Ukraine in 2019 and find out if Rudy Giuliani was investigated for his escapades over there. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year
Once you produce some actual evidence I suppose that could be discussed.

That's strange. Didn't you post a zillion articles during the Russia hoax?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year

These recordings, the unredacted FD-1023 and the information on Hunters computer need to be made public.  Expose the most corrupt president in US History.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    last year

they did, yesterday...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1    last year

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1    last year

And the link to all that information is....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    last year
Two members of Congress who have seen the 1023   told   the New York Post that the executive at issue was Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky. In 2020, former Giuliani aide Lev Parnas — then himself   under indictment   on federal charges — told Politico that Giuliani had met privately with Zlochevsky in mid-2019, in the middle of Trump’s effort to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Biden.

Asked to detail any contacts he had with Joe Biden from 2013-2019, and whether Hunter ever facilitated any meetings, ” Politico’s Natasha Bertrand wrote, “ Zlochevsky replied: ‘No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden’s engagement.’ "

Giuliani, Parnas said, was furious at that answer.

the executive at issue was Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky.

Zlochevsky replied: ‘No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden’s engagement.’ "

Curious.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year
Zlochevsky replied: ‘No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden’s engagement.’ "

From what we know of the FD-1023, Zlochovesky doesn't fully know what's going on in his organization.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1    last year

Zlochovesky is the person who allegedly has the recordings. Saying he doesnt know makes no sense. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    last year

Why haven't we heard these alleged recordings yet?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    last year
Why haven't we heard these alleged recordings yet?

Practice a little patience!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  dennis smith @4.1.4    last year

yeah, it is pretty clear the FBI is stonewalling.

What I want to know is:

On whose orders?

I realize the lefties here are very impatient. We waited how long for the Great Mueller Report, and now they can't wait a few weeks or months?

 
 
 
bccrane
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4.1.6  bccrane  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    last year

Saying he doesnt know makes no sense. 

You do understand how blackmail works, right?

If you tip your hand and let out what you have on someone, then you just lost all your leverage.

It seems the informant was close to Zlochovesky and he trusted the informant enough to show them the evidence.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

The fact that Giuliani met with this Zlochevsky character in 2019 is itself highly suspicious. Giuliani is human stank at this point, and spent 2019 in Ukraine trying to dig up dirt on Biden. 

You can be sure that Giuliani offered Zlochevsky money if he would produce dirt on Biden. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    last year
The fact that Giuliani met with this Zlochevsky character in 2019 is itself highly suspicious.

Only to those who have completely immersed themselves into wild Russia theories!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

So how many levels of hearsay is that?

 
 
 
JumpDrive
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4.3.1  JumpDrive  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3    last year

One fewer than Comer saying he lost track of the FBI whistleblower who talked to a foreigner who said Biden took a bride.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JumpDrive @4.3.1    last year

Holy shit does Jill know?!?

 
 
 
George
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4.3.3  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.3.2    last year

No Worries for Jill, she was underage so it wasn't legal.....in more ways than one.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

They would never lie to Giuliani!/S

The FBI has far better resources than Giuliani; or his aide.

Democrats are desperate to protect their Human Fuck Up Machine. The damage of him being guilty of what they accuse Trump of would bring down the entire party.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @4.4    last year

SSDD with the PD&D

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.4.2  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @4.4.1    last year

Go back to abbreviation school.

[Deleted]

[Whichever is easier.]

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.4.3  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @4.4.2    last year

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Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    last year

Appoint a special prosecutor.   That’s the only way there can be clarity.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    last year

Unfortunately, I think the FBI may end up being required to be more forthcoming about this investigation even though discussing such may be against their protocol. Otherwise they are allowing the RWNJ in the congressional Republican conference to run wild. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    last year

That's right John! If the FBI is acting properly, they should want to show it.

Tell Chris Wray that is the best way to protect the bureau's reputation.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    last year

The only reason it would be unfortunate is if the FBI proves they are a tool of the Democrat Party.

Half the population doesn't trust them or the DOJ. That number is growing with each passing charge, leak, obstruction, and refusal to provide even the simplest of documentation.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.2    last year
That number is growing with each passing charge, leak, obstruction, and refusal to provide even the simplest of documentation.

Well, to be fair, I think only independents and conservatives even care about it.

Leftist sycophants will remain clueless.

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.4  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    last year
Well, to be fair, I think only independents and conservatives even care about it.

I want them to put up or shut up. It's likely they will do neither. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @5.1.4    last year
I want them to put up or shut up. It's likely they will do neither.

perhaps they will soon if the FBI stops delaying and hindering their investigation.

Can you think of one plausible explanation for refusing to turn over a non-classified document at the request of a Congressional panel?

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.6  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    last year
perhaps they will soon if the FBI stops delaying and hindering their investigation.

According to Grassley, the FBI never had the tapes. No delaying, or hindering, necessary. 

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.7  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    last year
Can you think of one plausible explanation for refusing to turn over a non-classified document at the request of a Congressional panel?

Yeah... Wray is trying to get his shit out of the political circus Congress keeps dragging him into. The document in question on it's face means nothing. Those Congressional lawyers know it. It's nothing more than a report someone fed them a tip. IF there is nothing to back up the tip then the FBI stops their investigation. Easy peezy lemon squeezy... Until some dickhead comes along and wants to impress a congressional committee saying he saw a report and then it's full bread and circuses for the partisan masses once again!  

Hey he brought the document to them - explained it all to them, including those that dropped out of high school early. He was just unwilling to let it circulate publicly. After Comer threatened him with contempt, were I Wray, I would have sent Comer a selfie flipping him off and called a media conference where I explained how Congress is trying to impede ongoing investigations and leak information compromising informants for political gain. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @5.1.7    last year

so a document which means nothing on its face is kept secret by the FBI and a whole lot of people wonder why.

it makes zero sense for the FBI to stonewall.

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.9  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.8    last year
it makes zero sense for the FBI to stonewall.

They didn't stonewall. Wray showed it to the full committee. WTF more do they need?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilone @5.1.9    last year
They didn't stonewall.

They did until the contempt threat came.........................

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.10    last year
They did until the contempt threat came.........................

I mean...

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.1.12  Snuffy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.10    last year

And wasn't the document they did get to see have some pieces blacked out?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @5.1.9    last year
They didn't stonewall.

As much as I enjoy fantasy, I can't indulge your delusions on this.

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.14  evilone  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.10    last year
They did until the contempt threat came.........................

He showed to the committee leadership and at that point the further whining was partisan bullshit. After they threatened contempt the first time he came back to explain it to the full committee. So now why did Comer threaten again to hold him in Contempt for not giving them a copy if its not partisan bullshit? I see that Comer dropped his threat to hold a contempt vote last week...

 
 
 
evilone
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5.1.15  evilone  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.13    last year
As much as I enjoy fantasy...

I know you prefer the partisan narrative spun by the Republicans. It's the same story the Dems were spinning about Trump when he was in office. I guess if people didn't eat this stuff up Congressional clowns would have to get real jobs. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @5.1.15    last year

did the FBI give Congress what they subpoenad for?

or did the FBI allow some folks to read a redacted copy of it?

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    last year

"The corruption of the DOJ and the FBI is another matter entirely — hundreds more whistleblowers are needed for that enterprise."

Don't stop there, you'll need millions of whistleblowers to 'dislodge' even a fraction of the radical leftist infestation.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.1  Ronin2  replied to  Hallux @6    last year

Remember when leftists loved whistleblowers? Even ones that presented hearsay evidence cobbled together by talking to several different people that may or may not have been present at the phone conference in question? It wasn't that long ago. Democrats went so far as to bar Republicans from interviews with these whistleblowers just to protect their identities.

Now leftists see whistleblowers as demons to be hunted down, prosecuted, or driven out of their jobs. When they are not accusing Republicans of making them up that is. 

Life must be grand in leftist land. Brandon in the White House fucking things up at record pace. Garland and Wray hunting down whistleblowers while impeding Republican House investigations. Trump under multiple indictments with more to follow at the state and federal level. Leftists don't even have to squint that hard to see a rainbow colored DNCCCP ruling the US forevermore.

 
 

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