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The Whopper of the Week

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  72 comments

The Whopper of the Week
Tucker started, “Jennifer Rubin is a columnist at the Washington Post. Rubin is probably the dumbest person ever to have a newspaper column.”

Link to Quote: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/10/06/carlson-expands-on-dems-replacement-theory-calls-it-electorate-packing-with-jennifer-rubin-providing-receipts-1144857/



Yesterday one of our members posted the story of a Washington Post columnist who repeated a story from the "Business Insider" which was wrong on the face of it, as well as already having been debunked. The ridiculous claim was that more people were leaving the state of Florida than were moving to it. Business Insider got the numbers backwards, of course, yet neither Jenifer Rubin nor the editorial staff over at the Washington Post bothered to check out the story or the fact that BI had already admitted to the monster "mistake." This has been an alarming trend for the American media in the past few years. Stories are not checked out or unnamed sources are used recklessly and always to frame a biased narrative.

Here is that story:


https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/62024/wash-post-publishes-piece-with-debunked-claim-about-desantis-florida-despite-source-admitting-it-was-wrong#cm1987951


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Jennifer Rubin: Washington Post Columnist & failed blogger on Twitter



Here is the problem with these lies/mistakes: they all seem to happen in one direction. In this case it was to make the media's main enemy, Gov Ron DeSantis look bad. Corrections take days to post. Most people who casually follow the news are not always there for the correction and this kind of shit sticks. Then there is the censorship the left favors. Here we are governed by what I consider a subjective fact checker. Here is how it categorizes the Washington Post:

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LEFT-CENTER BIAS



These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation.   See all Left-Center sources.

  • Overall, we rate The Washington Post Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that moderately favor the left. Due to a few failed fact checks, they earn a Mostly Factual rating.





How many really think the Washington Post is "mostly factual" with a slight left of center bias?


Do I get to ask the question or will Big Brother censor me?  




America had been blessed with a free press. Unfortunately, most of our media have used such freedom to slant the news to a leftist perspective or to simply lie to the American people. Legacy media like the Washington Post should act more responsibly. We expect more from the press than we would a politician. We turn to the media for the facts. The motto of the Washington Post during it's worst years has been "Democracy dies in Darkness."


In a correction on Saturday, the Post admitted the column "mischaracterized" the statistics.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year


This week the Washington Post gets the first award.

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JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year

How Factual Is the New York Post?

Over a dataset of 1,000 articles, the New York Post scored an average Factual Grade of 51.9% . This is below the average of 61.9% for all 240 news sources that we analyzed. This places the site in the 12th percentile of our dataset.

These low overall scores are partially due to low-quality sourcing, a lack of author expertise, and sensationalized writing and headlines. Most articles only have intermittent links to supporting evidence, and many of those links point back to other internal articles, suggesting limited diversity in sourcing. The Post’s tabloid style means some authors write on many different topics, leading to low overall scores for author expertise (rather than established beats). Additionally, part of the site’s approach to driving traffic involves the use of sensationalized headlines and text, both of which lead to lower article scores.

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How Factual Is the Washington Post?

The  Washington Post  scored an average Factual Grade of 68.7%, placing the publication in the 79th percentile of our dataset. These moderately high scores can be attributed to several factors. For example, articles commonly include ample links to external sources and direct quotes to support their reporting. Likewise, the Washington Post employs dedicated reporters who routinely publish high-quality articles on the same subjects. However, scores are dragged downwards by opinionated language (see below).

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

The article is about the Washington post. I thought you didn't like whataboutisms.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    last year

The article is "about" Vic's (he wrote the article) belief that the Washington Post is not factual.

How many really think the Washington Post is"mostly factual"

The fact that it is rated more factual than one of Vic's favorite sources is entirely relevant on this seed. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    last year

I would say nice try but it really isn't and you are not fooling anyone with your "But the other guy is worse".

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    last year
I thought you didn't like whataboutisms.

That only applies when it's brought up in a left seeded article.  Gotta just love the hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    last year
I thought you didn't like whataboutisms.

I think that only applies to HIS seeded articles.

The proof is before us in black and white.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    last year

Are deflections all you have?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    last year

Is nonsense all you have?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.4    last year

I think one of the most entertaining things is when they contort themselves trying to rationalize/justify why they are not actually doing what they are doing or why it is different when they do it.  Pure comedy gold.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.6    last year
Is nonsense all you have?

Rhetorical, obviously!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

The title is THE WHOPPER OF THE WEEK.

Take the whataboutism elsewhere.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

Say, your stats on the New York Post would be an EXCELLENT post IF that were the topic.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    last year

Conservatives on this site routinely use the New York Post as a go to source, the seeder of todays article in particular often uses the New York Post.

The New York Post is rated by The Factual, a media rating outfit, as being considerably less factual than the Washington Post. 

One is in the 79th percentile (WAPO) and the other is in the 12th percentile (NYPO). This is like difference between one getting a B + and the other getting an D - on a test.

If Jennifer Rubin made a foreseeable mistake then her reputation will suffer for it. Right wing media doesnt have much of a reputation to lose. 

The king of right wing media, Fox News,  is paying a 750,000,000 dollar settlement in a slander suit, and has admitted in public that their most popular hosts lied about the 2020 election results. 

Someone is going to say, "they are opinion shows".  So is Jennifer Rubin's column.

The bottom line - this seed is utter hypocrisy. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3    last year

When you can't dispute the information, attack the source.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    last year

Vics point, I guess, since he said it, is that the Washington Post is not very factual. I posted information indicating Vic is wrong, and in truth the Washington Post is more factual than one of Vics favorite sources. 

What did you post? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    last year
Vics point, I guess, since he said it, is that the Washington Post is not very factual.

We've known that for a long time now.  They are right there with the likes of CNN, MSNBC, HuffPo and several others.  What is telling is all of those have continually published false information, yet the left (yourself included) like to use them as "trusted sources".  

At the same time, you have a history of completely ignoring the subject of an article just because you don't like the source.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    last year
 I posted information

You posted an opinion based source.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    last year

That's what you posted.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    last year

Just more PDD&D.  The article is on the WASHINGTON post not fact checking and there is a factual instance to prove the claim.  Care to step away from PDD&D and comment on it?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    last year
the seeder of todays article in particular often uses the New York Post.

I sure do, starting with the NYP breaking the Hunter Laptop story which was censured by social media and the US government.


by The Factual, a media rating outfit,

Every fact checking group is left biased. IE IfTrump says it is Thursday, on a Thursday, he would get a partly true because it will soon be Friday!


If Jennifer Rubin made a foreseeable mistake 

There isn't a rational human being alive in this country who would not know that people have been flocking to Florida.



The bottom line 

The bottom line is the Washington Post was willfully & unforgivably negligent

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    last year

Vic, demonstrating that [deleted] your seeds are incompetent is childs play. 

Be happy that Newstalkers gives you the forum to express your endless nonsense. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    last year
Vic, demonstrating that you and your seeds are incompetent is childs play. 

Then how come you haven't been able to do it?


Be happy that Newstalkers gives you the forum 

Traditional Americans don't deserve a forum?   Will there eventually be camps for us?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.2    last year

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Vic Eldred
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3.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.3    last year

I guess those people aren't members, since nobody has been able to dislodge this story from being the Whopper of the Week. No story in the past week has been as ridiculous as this claim that Florida is losing residents. The originator of the story has long since admitted to the huge blunder.

How did the Washington Post go with this story?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    last year
Vic, demonstrating that you and your seeds are incompetent is childs play.

That's hilarious coming from the person who seeded all those "smoking gun" articles.  And on top of it you actually expect to be taken seriously.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.3    last year
"Vic, you are road kill when you come up against people who know what they are doing."

There ya go again...mindless personal attacks, insults, taunting, etc....when you have long ago lost the argument.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.6    last year

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Tessylo
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3.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.6    last year

The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.2.9  Jasper2529  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.5    last year
That's hilarious coming from the person who seeded all those "smoking gun" articles. And on top of it you actually expect to be taken seriously.

Smoking guns hiding in plain sight have worked as badges of honor for Adam Schiff, Adam Kinzinger, and Liz Cheney for years, and their acolytes continue to obediently obey.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.5    last year

Like he says, I'm up against some brilliant minds here / S

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.8    last year

Finally you admit it.  Good for you.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.9    last year

All about backed with as much fact as a Dr. Seusse book.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    last year

So tell me: what do you  think about Jenifer Rubin posting a story from the "Business Insider" which  claimed  that more people were leaving the state of Florida than were moving to it even after Business Insider admitted to the monster "mistake." What do you think about the Washington Post editorial staff somehow missing it.  Do you think they could have thought it was true?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.14  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.13    last year
What do you think about the Washington Post editorial staff somehow missing it.  Do you think they could have thought it was true?

I think they missed it altogether and probably because they liked how she could make DeSantis look bad. That was the sole intent, and they liked the intent.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3    last year
If Jennifer Rubin made a foreseeable mistake then her reputation will suffer for it.

IF????????

I thought you read the article!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Remember when liberal Hollywood promoted the great fiction that the Washington Post fact checked their own stories?




"Deep Throat" turned out to be a disgruntled FBI official who was pissed off that Nixon wouldn't make him FBI Director.


Yup, those were the days....the days of jeans, weed and an older generation that loved their kids a bit too much.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

Follow the money.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    last year

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Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    last year

 
 
 
Hallux
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7  Hallux    last year

Whopper of the week? Meh, it's only Tuesday and Thursday will be more fun for tag teams. On a more serious note, is this all you can come up with Vic? It reeks of look over there!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @7    last year

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Hallux
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7.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    last year

Consider my comment as an editorial to an editorial and move on.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @7.1.1    last year
Consider my comment as an editorial to an editorial and move on.

I will give your comment ALL the consideration it actually deserves.

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    last year

I appreciate that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @7.1.3    last year

I'll keep it safe--really.

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Tessylo
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7.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @7.1.1    last year

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Tessylo
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7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    last year

For something that doesn't interest you, you sure spent a lot of time noting how disinterested you are.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.6    last year
For something that doesn't interest you, you sure spent a lot of time noting how disinterested you are.

And for someone claiming to have read my posts, yours show a remarkable "ability" to see what I don't write.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    last year

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Right Down the Center
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7.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.6    last year

So tell me: what do you  think about Jenifer Rubin posting a story from the "Business Insider" which  claimed  that more people were leaving the state of Florida than were moving to it even after Business Insider admitted to the monster "mistake." What do you think about the Washington Post editorial staff somehow missing it.  Do you think they could have thought it was true?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8  Sean Treacy    last year

It really shows you how far the standards have fallen at the Post. It's not a surprise clickbait like Business Insider screwed up reading a chart, but the Post supposedly employs fact checkers to catch this sort of thing.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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9  Hallux    last year

And the day after WaPo issued an apology and a retraction which is what a good news organization does ... FOX has a heap to catch up on.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @9    last year

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Hallux
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9.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1    last year

Only you and Vic have mentioned Trump, whine to each other.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @9    last year
And the day after WaPo issued an apology and a retraction which is what a good news organization does

No, a good news organization would have fact-checked itself so there is no need to apologize or issue retractions for something so easily checked.

 
 
 
Hallux
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9.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2    last year

So, by your definition FOX is a bad news organization.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @9.2.1    last year
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Jasper2529
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9.2.3  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.2    last year
Did you read in my comment anything at all about Fox, or are you just showing an example of whatboutisms and deflections?

Please don't forget the left's other buzzword ... projection.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.2.3    last year

Rarely have I seen people so desperate to talk about other things besides the article they are on.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.4    last year

They keep throwing out shiny objects in hopes others will do what they do, forget the point of the article.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @9.2.5    last year

Maybe it is the fault of Fox that the Wash Po printed an article with known false information in it.

/s

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.2.3    last year
Please don't forget the left's other buzzword ... projection.

Um, I think the cool kids are using Projection, Deflection, and Denial as the buzzwords no one cares about now.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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9.2.8  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.7    last year

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