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"You're not serious people": Congress called out for ignoring Jared Kushner's "huge scandal" | Salon.com

  

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By:   Tatyana Tandanpolie (Salon)

"You're not serious people": Congress called out for ignoring Jared Kushner's "huge scandal" | Salon.com
Even GOP Rep. James Comer acknowledged Kushner "crossed the line" — but they're focused on Hunter Biden.

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House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., on Thursday said that he believes former President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, "crossed the line of ethics" by accepting a $2 billion investment from Saudi Arabia.

The Republican Kentucky representative, who is leading a congressional probe into President Joe Biden's eldest son Hunter's overseas financial dealings, acknowledged the transaction in response to former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's comments accusing Kushner of "grifting," according to The New York Post.

"I have been vocal that I think that what Kushner did crossed the line of ethics," Comer told CNN's Jake Tapper, pointing out the differences between the business dealings of Hunter Biden and Kushner, who served as an adviser to Trump in the White House.

"But what Christie said, it happened after he left office. Still no excuse, Jake, but it happened after he left office. And Jared Kushner actually has a legitimate business," Comer continued.

"This money from the Bidens happened while Joe Biden was vice president, while he was flying to those countries. He - look, days after he left Romania, his family started receiving wires from a corrupt Romanian foreign national, days, Jake, like four days after he left, including his granddaughter. What's his granddaughter doing getting a wire from a Romanian foreign national?" he added.

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Kushner reportedly received the $2 billion investment, which included an expected $25 million in annual management fees, from Saudia Arabia's sovereign wealth fund six months after his father-in-law left the White House.

During his tenure in the Trump administration, Kushner was tasked with managing Middle East policy, resulting in him building a relationship with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince and leading efforts to create the Abraham Accords, which established Israel's diplomatic relations initially with Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, and later with Morocco and Sudan.

Kushner's private equity firm, Affinity Partners, went forward with the investment deal despite a Saudi Public Investment Fund review panel citing concerns about the "inexperience of the Affinity Fund management" and a due diligence review that deemed the transaction "unsatisfactory in all aspects" among other considerations, according to meeting minutes obtained by The New York Times. But Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who chairs the fund, dismissed and overruled the panel's objections.

Comer announced on Thursday that he aims to subpoena members of the Biden family after the committee published a third bank record memo on Wednesday that said the Biden family and Hunter Biden's associates had received $20 million in payments from sources in Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.

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"What drives me crazy about this is the blinking red light around Jared Kushner," former Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., told MSNBC Thursday after declaring the "appearance of impropriety" in Hunter Biden's scandal. "Why does the Senate not start hearings?"

"This is a huge scandal. I do not understand why the Senate is not doing a hearing on all of the Trump grift. And I'm not even talking about the money they netted off foreign governments while they were in office," the former prosecutor said after walking through the extent of Kushner's relationship and dealings with Saudi Arabia, and comparing the situation to former Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin outcome when trying to get an investment from the Saudi government.

Democrats' failure to launch an investigation into Kushner, she added, is "a good way to make every headline about Hunter Biden and make everyone forget about what the Trump family did: massive grift while they were in office and even bigger grift trading off the influence of the name Trump after they got out of office. I really think that what Hunter Biden did — I disagree what he did, I don't know if his father disagreed what he did. I know that he was tormented by the death of his other son and the addiction of Hunter. But I do know this. I know that the more we give them an open playing field to try to pretend like Joe Biden did something wrong because of Hunter, the bigger mistake we make."

"We need to explain to the American people, first, that Joe Biden did nothing wrong, we have no evidence he did anything wrong, and secondly, don't look over here, look at the real sleaziness that occupied the White House the last time Republicans were in charge," McCaskill concluded.

Progressive ethics watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington agreed with McCaskill Thursday, writing on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Kushner "should not get a free pass for his special relationship with Saudi Arabia."

"Talk all you want about nepotism and conflicts of interest, but you're not serious people if you don't want to investigate Jared Kushner," the watchdog added in another tweet.

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On Friday's edition of "Morning Joe," MSNBC host Joe Scarborough mocked Comer and the other Republican legislators piling on Hunter Biden instead of probing the Trump children's transactions while working in the White House, his comments also in response to Christie's comparison of Hunter Biden's laptop controversy to Kushner's $2 billion investment at a New Hampshire campaign event Thursday.

"Let's see, $2 billion, laptop. I don't think it's the same," Scarborough began, raising his hands to weigh the value of Jared Kushner's scandal with that of Hunter Biden's in jest.

"You know, you can't control family members, and you want to, but you can't," he continued before comparing both to former President Jimmy Carter's brother, Billy Carter's, contentious relationship with Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi in the 1980s. "There's a big difference between that and people having to be pulled in line when Billy starts showing up next to Muammar Gaddafi in parades and having somebody working inside the White House doing White House business and coming out the other side $2 billion richer."

"I mean, the comparison, again. I'm not talking about [Christie] here so much as I'm talking about all the Republicans that are freaking out over Hunter Biden, when they don't look at all the things Donald Trump's children and in-laws got, who actually worked inside the White House," Scarborough added.

"[They] got these sweetheart deals from Saudi Arabia and China while they were inside the White House, working inside the White House," he said, adding, "Talk about pay to play."

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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

The gop is not serious and so they must be defeated badly, again...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

Nice try in trying to deflect from Garland's illegal actions to to delay and drag out the investigations into Hunter and Joe's crimes. This special counsel fiasco pretty much proves that the investigations are getting too close to the truth and is a devious act of desperation. It could be called the "Colossal Coverup" and is likely to cause great damage to the Biden "brand".

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.2  CB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 years ago

Just ridiculous. File under: Games People Play.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @1.1.2    2 years ago

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Thrawn 31
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1.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 years ago

Wasn't the GOP demanding a special counsel? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

The gop is not serious and so they must be defeated badly, again...

I love their argument that Hunter got paid 2+ million only because his father was VP, but Kushner surely earned the 2 billion he was paid.  Republicans have stopped all pretenses of any kind of bipartisanship, they've gone full hypocrite.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    2 years ago
I love their argument that Hunter got paid 2+ million only because his father was VP, but Kushner surely earned the 2 billion he was paid. 

No one paid Jared Kushner $2 billion.  He started a private equity fund that the Saudi's invested in.  Kinda like George Soros' Hedge Fund. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.2    2 years ago
He started a private equity fund that the Saudi's invested in.

Oh yeah, Kushner started a business which he has no experience in, and the Saudi's contributed 2 billion to that new business which is being run by a failed real-estate investor.

Putting it that way, it makes perfect sense.... /sarc

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.3    2 years ago
Kushner started a business which he has no experience in


So putting it that way.    If Kushner is bad, Hunter is must be really bad as well.

Right?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.3    2 years ago
Oh yeah, Kushner started a business which he has no experience in,

Affinity Partners staff include private equity veterans Bret Pearlman and Asad Naqvi.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.3    2 years ago

So you think Jared has no investment experience, I have this bridge...................

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.4    2 years ago

So putting it that way.    If Kushner is bad, Hunter is must be really bad as well.

Right?

If all you have left is whataboutisms, then yes.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.10  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.8    2 years ago

An inconvenient truth for the whataboutism gambit pushers.

Noted.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.2.11  Bob Nelson  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.2    2 years ago

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Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    2 years ago

Any thinking person can make the distinction which ethics violations are worse.    

That said, the TDS ridden can not longer be considered thinking people since TDS has completely rotted their brains.

Rotten to the core ….

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @2    2 years ago

Yes, Hunter only gave the illusion of access. Jared actually had power!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.1    2 years ago

No. It's idiotic to think that Hunter's friends and business partners had no access to the 10% Big Guy, who was sitting next to his son when Hunter made the threatening phone call to the Chinese guy....not to mention Joe's just stopping by and saying "Hi" at those "dinners" (business meetings)....just to talk about the weather

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1    2 years ago

I don’t think you know what the word illusion means.

russian oligarch gives hunter a million dollars, Russian oligarch gets access to joe Biden by going to dinner with him.  That’s just access.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    2 years ago

What Hunter did stinks and it sucks but the friends and family of powerful Americans have been profiting from their access to powerful relationships since 1776. We cannot stop John Roberts' or Clarence Thomas's wives from sitting on dozens of highly compensated corporate boards. Jared and Ivanka got billions from the Saudis. Our second President John Adams had a scoundrel son Charles who humiliated him by trading off their family name. Congressmen's kids and Senator's brothers across America are raking it in LEGALLY.

Having access to power does not disqualify anyone from making a good living. It sucks that our system unfairly rewards powerful connections, but it does Greg, it does! 

The exact nunus who are hair on fire outraged about Hunter Biden give a complete pass to Jared and Ivanka, to Clarence Thomas and to their own Congressmen's and Governor's lousy kids. So, get over your fake righteous indignation...

Hunter made some bank for giving the illusion of legitimately to a few lousy foreign businesses. So fucking what?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 years ago
So fucking what?

So his daddy took actions to enable Hunter.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.5  George  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 years ago
Hunter made some bank for giving the illusion of legitimately to a few lousy foreign businesses. So fucking what?

On an article about Kushner getting investments not a paycheck from the Saudi’s.

It’s worth repeating, they aren’t even making a minimal effort to hide their hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 years ago
"Jared and Ivanka got billions from the Saudis."
LEGALLY!  And I doubt that it was billions.
But there is more than ample evidence that the Biden's vast wealth was gained by bribery and money laundering for the purpose of influence peddling.
 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.6    2 years ago

If that were true the gop would show Us the evidence...

Evidence the gop does not have, like with the Clinton's!

And, Obamas. No wonder we can't take the gop serious.

Wild unfounded accusations cannot be taken seriously.

On the other hand...

original

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.8  CB  replied to  JBB @2.1.7    2 years ago
No wonder we can't take the gop serious.

Emphatically. The MAGA GOP is a joke that keeps on giving. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @2.1.8    2 years ago
The MAGA GOP is a joke that keeps on giving. 

Yet, somehow, you don't seem to be laughing here.  Your joy seems to,be replaced with resentment. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.11  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.10    2 years ago

You're one to write. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @2.1.11    2 years ago

That I am, one to write.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    2 years ago
It's idiotic to think that Hunter's friends and business partners had no access to the 10% Big Guy

Because...projection?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.16  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.1    2 years ago
Yes, Hunter only gave the illusion of access. Jared actually had power!

Yes, along with the other managers in his equity fund, he has the power to pool together the money invested in the fund and to make investments on behalf of the fund.   

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.18  cjcold  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 years ago

I still have an unopened six pack of Billy Beer in my wine cellar.

Not worth drinking but probably worth something someday.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.19  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  cjcold @2.1.18    2 years ago

eBay cracks me up.

384

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @2    2 years ago

The ones with rotted brains are the ones that endlessly and constantly talk about "TDS". 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    2 years ago

Wrong!

A deranged mind, by definition, is not capable of making such distinctions.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    2 years ago

Wow! You just said so, and then along came the living proof...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.2.3    2 years ago

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Jasper2529
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2.2.5  Jasper2529  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.4    2 years ago

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CB
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2.3  CB  replied to  Sparty On @2    2 years ago

More like: Partisan to the core. This is what thinking persons are more often thinking:  Dumb ass children making 'mountains' for their parents to fight on is sickening. 

As to the remainder of your comment, I guess it comes with the territory.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.3.1  Sparty On  replied to  CB @2.3    2 years ago

Not at all like that.    

Wrong.  

Wrong again.    

Spot off.

 
 
 
CB
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2.3.2  CB  replied to  Sparty On @2.3.1    2 years ago

I wish I could find a picture of the De-Nile river. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.3.3  Sparty On  replied to  CB @2.3.2    2 years ago

Just look out your window ….

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @2.3    2 years ago
Partisan to the core. This is what thinking persons are more often thinking

What metrics do you have?

 
 
 
CB
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2.3.5  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.4    2 years ago

Did you ask the other individual about his/her metrics? Until you do and get a proper reply; don't bother asking me!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @2.3.2    2 years ago

That should be easy unless you're In-Seine.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @2.3.5    2 years ago

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George
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3  George    2 years ago

Again, not even trying to hide their hypocrisy. What Hunter did with Joe in Office, nothing to see here with his father actually going to dinners and taking phone calls during meetings. Then Kushner takes an investment after trump is out of office and trump has no connection, no dinner and no phone calls and this is the end of the world?

Was Kushner in the investment business before dad in law was elected? 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  George @3    2 years ago
What Hunter did with Joe in Office, nothing to see here with his father actually going to dinners and taking phone calls during meetings.

Let's not forget about Joe's letters on official VP stationery, emails, and photos that show he was associated with Hunter's "business deals". Joe also had at least one burner cell phone (and still stupidly has it/them) that he's used to contact Hunter and associates that was paid for by Hunter (including the monthly bills).

 
 
 
George
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3.1.1  George  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1    2 years ago

The best is the pictures of Hunters business partner on Air Force 2 going to Ukraine. Nothing to see here.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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3.1.2  Jasper2529  replied to  George @3.1.1    2 years ago
the pictures of Hunters business partner on Air Force 2 going to Ukraine. Nothing to see here.

This one?

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This photo taken by White House photographer David Lienemann shows Vice President Joe Biden being briefed by Amos Hochstein, right, aboard Air Force Two on his way to Ukraine on Dec. 6, 2015 .   (White House photographer David Lienemann)

" At the time of this photo, Hochstein was in communication with Hunter Biden and Burisma where Hunter served on the board," she continued. "We also know that this photo was taken on Air Force Two ahead of Joe Biden's now infamous meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, where Biden threatened to have aid withheld if a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma was not fired."

"All evidence points directly to Joe Biden being deeply compromised. House Republicans will leave no stone unturned in our investigations into Biden’s involvement in his family's influence peddling scheme," Stefanik added.

Hochstein, who served as special envoy and coordinator for international energy affairs under the Obama-Biden administration, was tapped as Biden’s special coordinator for global infrastructure and energy security in August 2021, and he was made special presidential coordinator to Biden in February 2022.

The rest of the article is highly interesting , too.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.2    2 years ago

Pure Fox!   😜

All evidence points directly...

... but we don't produce that evidence because....  

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Jasper2529
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3.1.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.3    2 years ago
Pure Fox! 

Anyone who reads the article will see that it provides incriminating photos from Getty Images as well as left-wing Bloomberg and Houston Chronicle. Your point?

but we don't produce that evidence because....

The House has had a majority for only 8 months. Although the left doesn't like it, they've provided a lot of evidence about the Biden Crime Family, and Joe in particular, during this time. Time will tell what happens.

It took David Weiss 5 years to come up with a "sweetheart deal" for Hunter. But, alas, it went up in smoke.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.4    2 years ago
evidence

"Evidence" is something that must be prodiced, and proven. The article has none. It is pure Fox: innuendo presented as evidence. Lies, basically.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    2 years ago

Alright mighty mental midgets. Kushner is no longer an employee of the federal government. He is not involved in it in any way shape or form with. His company receive the money for investment 6 months after Trump left office.

Kushner was not "given" 2 billion by the Saudis. His company was for investment into real estate and stocks. The company will be paid fees for investing the money- just like any other brokerage. You want to argue the fees are too high- fine. That is on the Saudis. You want to claim Kushner and his company are too inexperienced- again that is on the Saudis. Would you want to be the Saudi that rammed this deal through? Would you want to answer to the Saudi Royal Family if this deal fails and Kushner's company loses the money?

So take your sanctimonious TDS drivel and stuff it where the sun don't shine and the rain won't go.

Hunter, Brandon's brother, and the rest of the Brandon family cannot produce one damn service they provided or product they made to get the millions that flowed into them. That is all they would have to do to end the investigation- show what they did to deserve the damn money.

By the way. The Clinton Foundation lost their foreign investments once Hillary lost the Presidential race in 2016. That wasn't a coincidence. Pay for play and money laundering was the Foundation's specialty. No power no money. Democrats/leftist don't give a rats ass when it is one of their own doing it.

 
 
 
George
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5  George    2 years ago

Did the Saudi’s cut the investment in half after Trump left office like Burisma did with Hunter after Joe left office.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1  MrFrost  replied to  George @5    2 years ago

Did the Saudi’s cut the investment in half after Trump left office like Burisma did with Hunter after Joe left office.

Not sure but they did fly airplanes into the World Trade Center on 9/11... then gave Kushner 2 billion dollars for access to all the documents donny stole from the USA. 

 
 
 
George
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5.1.1  George  replied to  MrFrost @5.1    2 years ago

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MrFrost
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5.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  George @5.1.1    2 years ago

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MrFrost
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5.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.2    2 years ago

I think I'm in love with Sandy. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

Saudis didn’t give kushner money. They invested money with him in the expectation kushner would make more for them through good investments.  

Russians and other oligarchs gave the Bidens money to spend however the Bidens wanted.  What did they expect in return?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    2 years ago

Ukraine

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    2 years ago
Saudis didn’t give kushner money.

Lucky for him they picked his name out of the phone book. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    2 years ago

Where did the Russians, Chinese, Ukrainians, Middle East pick Hunter and Francis from?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    2 years ago
They invested money with him in the expectation kushner would make more for them through good investments.  

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Nerm_L
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7  Nerm_L    2 years ago

So, we're back to drowning the government in a bathtub?  The story is everyone in government is corrupt so we need to do away with government.  Nominate Newt Gingrich and everybody take the Norquist pledge.

Now we're told Jared Kushner is just as corrupt as Hunter Biden.  And both influenced government at the highest levels for their own benefit.  But our political system will only allow us to choose between Trump and Biden.

Biden doesn't belong in the White House any more than Trump belongs in the White House.  But come hell or high water, one of them will be President.  We're only allowed to fight a civil war to choose the lesser evil.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @7    2 years ago
Nominate Newt Gingrich

For what? Asshole Of The Month ? 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    2 years ago
For what? Asshole Of The Month ? 

Don't you think the Democrats' corrupt candidate could beat Gingrich?  That's the only metric that matters.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Nerm_L @7.1.1    2 years ago

Stop making sense.    
The deluded will never make the connection.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @7    2 years ago

President Biden is a competent CEO who has already put together a government that is functioning well because he picks good people...

Trump or any other gop candidate will surely pick the worst persons!

The gop is going to nominate Trump. Biden will win his second term.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @7.2    2 years ago
President Biden is a competent CEO who has already put together a government that is functioning well because he picks good people...

Joe Biden was elected to the Senate in 1973 and has only worked for the government since.  Biden has never been the CEO of anything.  Hunter Biden is more of a businessman than Joe Biden.  Jill Biden is more of an administrator than Joe Biden.  In the Biden family, Joe is the least accomplished and least competent.  The only things Joe Biden are known for are a dead wife and a dead son. 

Biden relied upon what the Trump administration put in place to deal with the pandemic, illegal immigration, tariffs, and trade deals.  Biden couldn't provide leadership for our withdrawal from Afghanistan.  And Biden got the United States stuck in another decades long quagmire in Ukraine.  Trump did more to prepare NATO than has Joe Biden.  Trump shut down the economy because of the pandemic and Biden screwed up restarting the economy.  Bidenomics gave us high inflation, high interest rates, and a credit downgrade.

Trump is still a better choice than Joe Biden.  Even Biden seems to think so.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @7.2    2 years ago
President Biden is a competent CEO

Biden is possibly the worst CEO in history.    Check that, his puppet masters are possibly the worst CEO’s in history.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @7.2    2 years ago

lready put together a government that is functioning well because he picks good people.

US inflation has had a snowballing effect on family budgets. The typical American household spent $709 more in July than they did two years ago to buy the same goods and services, according to Moody’s Analytics.
That figure underscores the cumulative impact high inflation has had on consumer finances — even as price growth has cooled considerably in recent months. “High inflation of the past 2+ years has done lots of economic damage,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, wrote in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Heckuva job, Joey

 
 
 
JBB
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7.2.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.3    2 years ago

You can't be serious!

original

 
 
 
CB
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7.3  CB  replied to  Nerm_L @7    2 years ago
We're only allowed to fight a civil war to choose the lesser evil.

There it is! An authentic call to literal war from the "cheap seats" in hopes it will go viral. Afterall, some conservatives are itching to REFORMAT the entirety of the federal government under their and their only control. Wonder what the GOP strategic plan is to do with all the bodies from another civil war? Of course, such action would take away our status as "Most Favored Nation" and roll it over to another country. I wonder which country?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3    2 years ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.3.2  Nerm_L  replied to  CB @7.3    2 years ago
There it is! An authentic call to literal war from the "cheap seats" in hopes it will go viral.

Bring concrete milkshakes and fireworks.  After the summer of love, no liberal has any justifiable moral standing to express outrate over literal war.  How many cities have liberals vandalized and burned?

If you are so opposed to literal war then why applaud Biden getting us stuck in Ukraine?   

The Democratic Party is the party of Civil War.  And Democrats started that war because a Republican was elected.  Democrats don't call for civil war; Democrats actually destroy cities.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.3  CB  replied to  Nerm_L @7.3.2    2 years ago

Meh.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.3    2 years ago

Well said CB, well said.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.3.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.3.4    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @7.3.5    2 years ago

Memes R U.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.3.8  Nerm_L  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.7    2 years ago
Why do you continue with that ignorant bullshit about Ukraine?  That war was started by Putin who murders innocent, men, women, and children. All that ignorance which is true of red cities because of the gop/gqp/whackjobs/RWNJs?

Ukraine shares a border with Russia.  People in Russia illegally crossed that border.  The United States is supplying lethal military aid to repel those invaders.

The United States shares a border with Mexico.  People in Mexico are illegally crossing that border.  The United States supplies aid to the invaders by sending them to cities throughout the country.

Joe Biden is trying to make Ukraine's border with Russia much more secure than the US border with Mexico.  Biden is giving direct comfort and aid to invaders of the US.  But in Kamala-lala-land that's not treason.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.3.10  bugsy  replied to  Nerm_L @7.3.8    2 years ago

Thank you, Nerm, for as always, providing truth on here. Something seriously lacking from the PD and D leftists that infest this site.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.3.12  Nerm_L  replied to  CB @7.3    2 years ago
There it is! An authentic call to literal war from the "cheap seats" in hopes it will go viral. After all, some conservatives are itching to REFORMAT the entirety of the federal government under their and their only control. Wonder what the GOP strategic plan is to do with all the bodies from another civil war? Of course, such action would take away our status as "Most Favored Nation" and roll it over to another country. I wonder which country ?

There it is!  Actual, real violence.  Someone apparently made the call for war and look who answered.  And don't try to claim the group of looters are conservatives.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.13  CB  replied to  Nerm_L @7.3.12    2 years ago

It should never occur because it is theft and assault. Gang activity and violence:  'Shoplfting' is not WAR! And 50 people at best makes a rather anemic platoon. But, go on and hype away to your heart's contentment.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.13    2 years ago
And 50 people at best makes a rather anemic platoon

No, US platoons range from 20 - 50 soldiers.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.15  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.3.14    2 years ago

Military-Units-V2-2-751x1024.jpg

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.3.16  Sparty On  replied to  CB @7.3.15    2 years ago

Let it go CB.

You’ve lost again.

Again.

 
 
 
GregTx
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7.3.17  GregTx  replied to  Sparty On @7.3.16    2 years ago

Wait for it....

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.18  CB  replied to  Sparty On @7.3.16    2 years ago

I 'never' win with you; so how would you know the difference?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.3.21  Sparty On  replied to  GregTx @7.3.17    2 years ago

Bazinga!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.3.22  Sparty On  replied to  CB @7.3.18    2 years ago

You are arguing military doctrine, with no personal military experience, with a career Army veteran.

I mean how can you lose?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.23  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.15    2 years ago

Yea, so what?

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.24  CB  replied to  Sparty On @7.3.22    2 years ago

What makes you think I have no military experience, Sparty On?  FYI, the image 7.3.15 I posted on military formations/units, I had in my control prior to posting to Nerm about platoons. I will be anxious to learn what you know about me. Care to 'get on' with it?

 
 
 
George
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7.3.25  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.3.23    2 years ago

You should thank him for proving you 100% right.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.26  CB  replied to  George @7.3.25    2 years ago

I am struggling (sort of) with the fact that this article is going off the rails into the bush, 'forcibly' dragging me along with the activity.   A common recent theme by some conservatives, I am concerned of my role in it.  

To end this, I will conclude this "platoon" metaphor by saying when I wrote "anemic platoon" 7.3.13, it as in CONTEXT of a discussion about 50 hoodlums, gang-members, or whatever individual grouping they recognize themselves to be as something insignificant (weak) relative to an organized platoon. Of course, I was not given the benefit of understanding by some conservatives, but fortunately for you guys, I don't troll your comments looking for shit just for purposes of discounting your intellect, character, judgement, or self!

That's mighty big of me. 

Back to the topic I go!

 
 
 
GregTx
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7.3.27  GregTx  replied to  CB @7.3.26    2 years ago
That's mighty big of me.  Back to the topic I go!

Good on you CB!.....

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.26    2 years ago

[Deleted]

[CB is not the topic.]

 
 
 
charger 383
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7.3.29  charger 383  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.3.28    2 years ago

comment removed for context [ph]

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.3.30  Nerm_L  replied to  CB @7.3.13    2 years ago
It should never occur because it is theft and assault. Gang activity and violence:  'Shoplfting' is not WAR! And 50 people at best makes a rather anemic platoon. But, go on and hype away to your heart's contentment.

Platoon?  Wrong kinda war.  50 people would be a robust sleeper cell.  That's how the left wing (and antifa) fight.  War against the civil population is about Hearts 'n Minds.  That's how the brownshirts gained so much influence.  In Vietnam, how many platoons were needed to burn hooches?

Besides, it only takes about 300 fighters to completely devastate the United States.  

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.31  CB  replied to  Nerm_L @7.3.30    2 years ago

What does this have to do with "You're Not Serious People": Congress Called Out For Ignoring Jared Kushner's "Huge Scandal" | Salon.Com?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.3.32  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.3.15    2 years ago

Holy old information Batman.  A lot has changed since Viet Nam.  Perhaps some research will do you better in the future.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7.3.33  Nerm_L  replied to  CB @7.3.31    2 years ago
What does this have to do with "You're Not Serious People": Congress Called Out For Ignoring Jared Kushner's "Huge Scandal" | Salon.Com?

It's a response to your commentary.  I've only been following your lead.  So, your commentary had nothing to do with the topic of the seed, either.  

It's an example of how the politics of Jared Kushner is being used to lead the country astray.  Biden is another President with a corruption problem and needs to distract public attention.  It's an example of Biden leadership in a nutshell.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.34  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.3.32    2 years ago

?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.3.35  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.3.34    2 years ago

You need an explanition that your meme is outdated?  Seriously?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.36  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.34    2 years ago

More up to date info:

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.37  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.3.35    2 years ago

I have let it go already, Jeremy. It really is not that important to me or this discussion about JARED KUSHNER. This is not a hill I choose to die on, anyway.

Bye. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.3.38  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.3.37    2 years ago
I have let it go already, Jeremy.

Yeah, you never had it in the first place.  But then again, we don't expect any better from you.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.39  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.3.38    2 years ago

 JARED KUSHNER.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.3.40  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.3.39    2 years ago
It really is not that important to me or this discussion

7.3.38  

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.41  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.3.40    2 years ago

  JARED KUSHNER.   Washington, D.C. politicians have too many moving parts for us to keep up with on a daily basis. This is like work.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.42  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.41    2 years ago

Yet you've written nothing about him other that repeating his name.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3.43  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.3.42    2 years ago

Why the hell won't you mention him then or . . . just *3!(^%&$#!    Frankly, I am overwhelmed by all the crap that is circling around the drain in D.C. and 'beyond.' When will be ever catch a 'break.'

I am seriously thinking that social media is a big waste of time. Why? Because though it helps enlighten people to a host of problems/issues/good things about society. . .it really is a tedious and slow as molasses process spanning years of sharing. That is just my opinion so don't try to beat me up over it. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.44  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @7.3.43    2 years ago
Why the hell won't you mention him then or . . . just *3!(^%&$#!   

I simply replied to your comments.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.3.46  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @7.3.45    2 years ago

You can’t handle the truth.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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7.3.48  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Nerm_L @7.3.8    2 years ago

There is a difference between PEOPLE illegally crossing a border and MILITARY illegally crossing a border.  I find your comment disingenuous and disgusting.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.3.49  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @7.3.48    2 years ago

Invasion is invasion. Guns or no guns.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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7.3.50  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.3.49    2 years ago

Wrong. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.3.51  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.3.49    2 years ago

And up is down. Words have no meaning. 

Be happy!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.3.52  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.3.51    2 years ago

Would you call J6 an invasion? Invasion of the capital?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.3.53  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.3.52    2 years ago

"Insurrection". Criminal offense.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.3.54  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.3.53    2 years ago

So is illegally crossing the border. Against the law............criminal offense.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.3.55  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.3.54    2 years ago

C'mon Jim! Please try to stay on topic. YOU asked me a question. I answered.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.3.56  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.3.55    2 years ago

You jumped in with your 7.3.51 and not calling illegal crossings an invasion. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.3.57  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.3.56    2 years ago

Whatever.

I really, really, REALLY must remember not to try to converse with you.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.3.58  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.3.57    2 years ago

You could put a reminder Post-it Note on your screen.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

You must have missed this:

US inflation has had a snowballing effect on family budgets.   The typical American household spent $709 more in July than they did two years ago to buy the same goods and services, according to Moody’s Analytics.
T hat figure underscores the cumulative impact high inflation has had on consumer finances  — even as price growth has cooled considerably in recent months.   “High inflation of the past 2+ years has done lots of economic damage,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, wrote in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

 
 
 
JBB
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8.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    2 years ago

You must not have seen this, or know that inflation is under control...

original Is Biden's a bad economy? This chart doesn't indicate a bad economy!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @8.1    2 years ago

The old shuck and jive.    

How many NEW jobs has he created?

NEW jobs …….

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  dennis smith @8.1.2    2 years ago

And an inflation uptick in July …..

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.4    2 years ago

And home ownership rates in the US have gone down under Biden.

Happy days are here again.  

Happy days!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @8.1    2 years ago

No answer to 8.1.1, obfuscation noted ….. keep running from the truth

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.6    2 years ago

And homelessness is up under Biden’s watch.

Great economy eh?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.9    2 years ago

I know, it’s pretty messed up to say the least.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

You have to give them time to adjust. The new talking point is that  "it's clear that Hunter Biden did a lot of unlawful and awful things", per reliable progressive parrot Jaime Raskin yesterday.  So now they can claim they've always known Hunter was a criminal, they just want to let the system work and there's no reason to discuss this while the investigation continues, and continues and continues.  

 
 

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