'Yep, I've Got Covid,' Says Dr. Jill Biden Hitting Self On Forehead With Knee Hammer Thing
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REHOBOTH BEACH, DE — First Lady (and real doctor) Jill Biden has confirmed she tested positive for COVID-19 after conducting her own extensive diagnostic assessment, which included hitting herself on the forehead with one of those rubber knee hammer things.
"Yep, it's official. I have COVID," Dr. Biden announced solemnly after hitting herself between the eyes with the reflex hammer. "Through rigorous scientific testing, including bonking myself on the head with the little hammer thingies that we real doctors all use, I have positively confirmed that I am suffering from this horrible disease. Rest assured, if I hadn't already received 17 vaccine injections and boosters, I would be much worse off than I am."
With notice of the First Lady's diagnosis rocking the nation to its core, she reportedly ordered President Joe Biden to resume his rigorous vacation schedule without her while she rested at home. Secret Service agents stayed behind to tend to her needs, having already stopped her from putting a thermometer up her nose in an attempt to take the temperature of her brain.
"My wife Jill will battle this illness with great dignity," President Biden said in a brief statement before hitting the beach. "And the American people can feel confident that there are other people to order me around and keep me from eating glue while she's recovering."
At publishing time, reports of medical personnel being urgently called to Jill Biden's bedside had been discovered to be a false alarm, with sources disclosing she simply needed help after strapping a blood pressure cuff around her neck.
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And your point?
Rather pathetic…and yes, tex, I understand sarcasm.
Be better.
Right? I mean repubes have been wearing masks for for centuries, but now? Throw a fit... Fucking hilarious.
Every Republican I know have been outraged by the masks democrats wore over time, especially the pointy ones, why are you finding that hilarious? Because you are comfortable with them?
Lots of people get Covid, not understanding why this is such an issue?
Because most are not going back to the mandates that turned out to be BS.
I encourage republicans to ignore all official health advisories they don't believe in the future.
We encourage all Democrats to head to any of their nirvanas ASAP. Canada, China, Cuba, Europe, North Korea, and South America, are all far more Socialist than we are.
I am sure they would welcome all US leftists with open arms.
Nope, we'll stay right here and fight the Fascists trying to usurp our country.
The Blocked Texan tries to strike again. I'm so happy I can't see his shit because I'm sure all it says is blah blah blah blah blah anyway.
Not just one grand announcement but endlessly re-announcing it as if we are all awaiting a reminder.
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Why do people who know they are blocked by somone attempt to reply to that someone who's never going to see their reply is a better question? It's pathetic and a waste of time, [deleted]
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No, because the entire site can see their reply debunking the bullshit comment made by the person who has them on ignore, the pathetic one is the person who can't tolerate opposing opinions and has to stick their fingers in their ears going LALALALALALALALALA.
You do realize that Dr Biden has a phd in education, right? She's not a medical doctor. Your satire would have nailed if she were a medical doctor
Well they do emphasize the "Doctor" thing so the satire kind of nailed it.
They emphasize the word "doctor" because that's her title. It's not surprising that conservatives don't know that anyone with a PhD is titled doctor.
How many minions do you think know that and are just impressed with the doctor label?
Just as it's not surprising that liberals don't see the humor in what is obviously satire and need it explained to them.
And it's absolutely amazing and wondrous that a Dem/Lib crows over her use of the "designation". (You do know that "Doctor" with a PhD is not a "title", right? It comes down to a basic distinction. Psychologists earn PhDs, and AP style allows the ‘Dr.’ title only for those with medical degrees.)
PhD Jill is not a "Doctor" - she is just someone who has more education that is "Piled Higher and Deeper" than others - PhD.
"Doctor" is NOT her title.
Hell, what do you call folks who have obtained more than one Master's/Bachelor's degrees - lucky?
I would think that most educated people know that anyone with a PhD is granted the title "doctor". That fact that it bugs you so much is amusing.
1st you were doing so well in your NA article
When I went to college, many of my professors went by the title "Dr" because they had earned a PhD in their designated field. She's earned the title of "Dr" because she has a PhD in education. I'm sure if you had a PhD you would be mighty proud of it...unless you're one of those that knock education? You don't seem that type to me
I see that here everyday
Humor is subjective now isn't it. Just because something is satire doesn't mean its humorous.
Like this bullshit seeded here
Doctor is her title.
and
So, you're comment has been rendered moot.
What happened on my NA article???
At "our" university (NMSU), all PhD grads are given the status of "PhD in Econ/Ed/Phys/Etc" with the title of "PhD" and ONLY folks graduating from Med School are called "Doctor" and given the title of Dr.. I have seen a number of schools of higher education following the same practice - i.e. - you get a degree in medicine and you're a Doctor - you get a PhD in something other than medicine and you're a PhD - period.
Just because YOU don't see the humor in it doesn't meant it's not humorous. It's also not my problem.
Flat out wrong.
A doctorate degree (Ph D) qualifies the holder to be addressed as Dr. The title is NOT exclusively applied to medical doctors.
Did you purposely ignore the first part of my comment where I said that humor is subjective or is your reading comprehension that piss poor?
Sorry, but an "opinion" from an academic ain't rocket science and doesn't hold water in the real world.
Sorry, but your "opinion" on the the subject isn't rocket science and doesn't hold water in the real world where a person who earned a PhD can use the title "doctor" at his or her discretion. If you don't like it, that's a YOU problem.
You were being articulate and accurate in your NA article
Your blanket statement is Flat out wrong - depends on the source of education received. Some colleges/universities do and some don't.
My favorite response? Depends - covers all the bases.
A PhD from an accredited institution (implied) qualifies the individual to be referred to as Dr.
Amazing that some will even deny time-tested basic facts.
Being the same here - 'cept "my definition" will always wind up with a "depends" because, in reality, there are too many variables involved with this ego-booster.
I know - why do you persist?
So...if my Applied Entomology and Zoonosis professor tried to give me a professional opinion on Albert Camus who I was reading for a French class I would probably say, thanks, Doc, then go back to my French professor. But if he was giving me a professional opinion on Lyme Disease (he actually was one of the first to research it) I would sit up straight and pay attention.
You don't have to pay attention to any one's opinion but if they are weighing in on something that they spent years educating themselves about you would be wise to give them heed
No, you're really not. You're arguing just to argue and your "facts" are all wet
that was unnecessary and uncalled for
Depends - not all "accredited" sources of advanced education give PhD grads the "right" to call themselves Dr. That is a personal choice in many cases.
And I do - in many, many, many cases.
Your Applied . . . professor is "more than likely" a PhD??? But, then again depending on his academia achievements, he could be a "Dr.", correct? "Depends" on his accreditation, eh?
I would think you'd go to your Philosophy professor for the answer on Camus - as he was a very leading philosopher - without the degree.
This is a "satire" thread which "usually" involves some sort/form of humor which, unfortunately, is being avoided in the comments being given.
Sorry Trout, but my "facts" are quite solid - do the research as I did - you'll be amazed at the variety of answers you can/will find - some right - some wrong - but they are "facts" as presented by the authors.
This so-called satire entirely missed its mark. I've explained already and don't care to waste my fingers on it again
No...it was a piece of literature we were reading for French IV. Ever hear of ""The Stranger?" I had to read it, in French for that class.
Sometimes it's better to keep your fingers off the keyboard before you strike
Your "facts" here are all wrong. Just stop.
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The personal choice is that of the PhD holder. The right to be referenced with the honorific 'Doctor' comes with the earning of a doctorate (PhD) degree. PhD = Doctor of Philosophy (just as MD = Doctor of Medicine).
Concur and thanks for the responses
My "final" response is, simpy, the term ‘Doctor’ was created by medieval Universities as the final, highest degree you could get.
Doctorates were offered in Philosophy, Medicine, and Law.
Today, most majors give a Ph.D (Doctor of Philosophy), but there are various doctorates.
So Doctor doesn’t only mean ‘medical person’, it means ‘you have the highest graduate degree’.
I didn't say it wasn't "satire". I said it missed it's mark.
All this, to agree in the end that those who hold a PhD are called "doctor". You've been arguing against yourself this whole thread.
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Yet here you are.
Yes because I'm allowed to be where ever I want to be.
that's a real head slapper, isn't it?
Correct!!
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If I'm sitting In a room full of engineers, discussing a project, there's not a one of them that I would address as Doctor.....
Well first requirement is that they have a doctorate. Second is that they choose to use the honorific 'Doctor'. Often times you will see that honorific used in academic (and scientific) settings. Not so much in a corporate environment (which I assume you are referring to). But it certainly is proper to address a PhD as 'Doctor'.
Your comment, however, is not clear. Are you trying to express your personal views on PhDs ... that you do not consider a PhD (doctor of philosophy) to be worthy of the honorific?
I consider the individual...
I think that I do too. While everyone who earns a doctorate can properly be referred to as 'Doctor' the individual must perform at that level in real time to deserve the honorific.
So you would not refer to a PhD in some engineering discipline who is competently performing at a level one would expect of a PhD as 'Doctor' even if this individual is commonly introduced as 'Dr. xxx'? Under no circumstances?:
No
Why not?
Why not what?
Tell you what, when you stop changing your comment, I might respond...
If you do not want to answer my question that is fine. I just think your comments suggest an irrational bias against PhDs for some reason.
If you say so, as a land surveyor I deal mainly with civil and mechanical engineers, and no, there's not a one that I would call "Doctor""..
Ahh thanks for your analysis.
“If I'm sitting In a room full of engineers, discussing a project, there's not a one of them that I would address as Doctor.....”
what if three quarters of the engineers were white, one quarter of the engineers were black, one engineer is hispanic, and the remaining engineers were asian or non-resident engineers? Would you call any of them doctor then?
I would not call an engineer 'doctor' either unless they held a PhD and were commonly known as Dr. 'xxx'. In that case, unless the individual has done something where I feel s/he does not deserve the honorific, I will be courteous and call him/her Dr.
Looks, from your comments, that you would not refer to the individual as Dr.
Do any of them hold a PhD?
What does race / ethnicity / nationality have to do with this?
Gazoo offered a different scenario.
Well I guess you will just have to get on Gazoo then for offering a different scenario as part of the discussion.
Satire - the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
And, I played it well. Look at all the fish in the net
My whole point
All engineers in my neck of the woods have to have a PhD. If you live somewhere that's not a requirement, I urge you to speak up..?
Try the addition on that one - 3/4 + 1/4 = 1 +1 + ~ = ???? Lot more than one.
Wanna try again?
1st, I was being generous. You should have left well enough alone.
Since you have opened this up again, you were arguing the opposite. My point was that it is proper to call a PhD doctor and you were arguing against it.
I was making fun of a part of “dr.” Jill’s dissertation that earned her the doctorate degree.
Uh, what? Most engineers in the USA have a BS or MS degree. The PhD is not normally something that a practicing engineer secures; typically engineers involved in research or academics make use of a PhD.
In the USA, PhD engineers are a small minority of the engineers.
So in your scenario, you are in a room of PhDs and you would never refer to any of them as Dr. Do these individuals normally go by Dr. xxx or do they not use the honorific?
If they do not use the honorific then of course it makes sense to follow the norm. If they do use the honorific then it seems odd that you would refuse to follow that norm.
Why "dr.". Do you not think it is proper to refer to a PhD holder as 'Dr.'?
Is it wrong to refer to Dr. Kissinger as such? Dr. Martin Luther King?
Don't tell me about it. Consider apologizing to Gazoo. (He will no doubt tell you that it was not necessary.)
So you think that the minimum is what they ascribe to? All the engineers that I work with have PhDs and I certainly wouldn't adresss any of them as Doctors. Again, I would urge you to speak up....
If you think that was satire, all I can say is, you're doing it wrong.
Of course, we all know that what's really going on is that you're backpedaling now that you've figured out you were dead wrong.
Mmmkayy
Look, you can try to help cover blatant error with farce if you like, but nobody is going to buy it.
Do you mean aspire to?
If so, that is not at all what I was stating. I was stating that the PhD is not what the vast majority of engineers seek for practical reasons. Most engineers hold BS and MS degrees and those degrees are most appropriate for what they are doing: actual engineering in the field.
Your comments suggest that you are not aware of this.
Yeah, we know that. I asked why. If you are going to just repeat your position then why bother spending the time typing?
Most people who have just met me call me "Dr." And all through undergrad and dental school, if my instructor held a PhD, DDiv, MD, DDS, or DMD, I called them "Dr." But my mama raised me right.
Then it's probably a good thing that idgaf whether someone agrees with it or not....... huh?
Do you care about being right vs. wrong? Or is that irrelevant too?
Exactly...
That's probably best for your peace of mind.
No doubt,..
In whose estimation? Yours?
No, I am speaking in terms of actually being right vs. wrong.
Would you prefer to get more things right and fewer things wrong?
Right, as I said carry on TiG.. .
So given no rebuttal you apparently have realized (or did a little research) that most practical engineers have BS and MS degrees (not excluding those who have supplemented their science degrees with an MBA).
I do not believe I said that I did not want a response. I stated that the response you wrote did not apply to me but rather to Gazoo. See?
As determined by who? You? Seriously..
I'm sorry that you feel like you have to do that...
You seem to be struggling with a very simple question yet I have been quite clear.
No, Greg, I am not the judge.
I am speaking in terms of actually being right vs. wrong based on knowledge in general and logic. The word 'actually' is key here.
Would you prefer to get more things right and fewer things wrong?
That's a very Pee Wee Herman response.
Ok, Doctor
Wouldn't you?..
That probably is the closest you will come to answering the question.
You know, nobody would have made a big deal out of it if you and the others who adhered to the 'only medical doctors are called "Doctor"" bullshit had just said you were wrong as soon as you were informed by multiple people that you were wrong. Everybody's wrong sometimes. There's no huge shame in it.
But no.
Instead, you had to go into this huge ridiculous spiel trying to play off the fact that you were wrong as satire. Trying to make it somebody else's fault that you were wrong. Trying to make fun of other people for you being wrong.
And then resorting to childish "I know you are, but what am I?" tactics.
This type of debate technique (if one can dignify it with such a term) is pathetic in grown adults. It looks a whole hell of a lot worse than a 'my bad, on further research, you were right, and holders of other degrees besides a medical doctorate are, indeed, called "Doctor."' I mean, 1st even agreed to the actual correct information way upthread, but couldn't quite stomach saying "I was wrong", and so tried to make everybody else look wrong, instead. That attempt failed spectacularly, and the ridicule in which you are trying to engage isn't helping his case. At all.
Whose case are you talking about?
Read my comment, and I'm sure you'll be able to figure out from context to whom the determiner "his" refers.
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Indeed the word "actually" is key to your post..
Very good Greg.
Ahh see responses to you are....
What do you hope to accomplish with vague, incomplete comments?
As determined by who? You? Would that not make you judge?....
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I work with engineers and none of them have PhDs. A lot of them have masters and quite a few are Professional Engineers (where they take a test and get that designation). An engineer where I work only requires a BS degree. I think Greg may be confusing PEs with PhDs.
And, don't forget those engineers who work in the aerospace industry and automobile industry and foundry industry and petroleum industry who have PhD's - true?
1st, are you under the impression that I am arguing that NO engineers hold PhDs? If so, where would you get such an impression?
For most engineers (operating practical vs theoretical), a PhD is not that valuable. A MS, however, is.
No TiG - just responding to Greg's question of anyone having an example of engineers with PhD's. Having worked with NASA and some chemical industries, I know of many. Hell, at the Kennedy Space Center, there were engineers with PhD's getting coffee for their supervisors - that's how damn many are there
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Greg stated that it is very common for engineers in his world to hold PhDs. I was illustrating that the BS and MS are substantially more common in the USA.
The PhD for engineers is a clear minority compared to BS and MS degrees. The fact that NASA has a number of PhDs is to be expected. That is not the norm.
And like I stated I think Greg has confused PEs with pHDs
Possibly.
Yes, I apologize TiG.
Actually Sandy, I was/did use an old, old, old method of debate used satirically. Got it from some of my most favorite Neoclassical writers - Dunne, Addison, Steele, Shakespeare, Dryden, Shadwell, Byron, Chaucer, Milton, Swift. They'd start arguing (discussing) the opposite, mid-way begin arguing for and against, and finally ending discussing the point. It's point is/was to show the foibles of how the mind works going from point A to point B with the introduction of new information/material.
No - it didn't fail. What failed was how many actually did not see what was being done - I guess critical thinking is more important than analytical.
Neoclassical literature is defined by common sense, order, accuracy, and structure. In the literature of the renaissance period, man was portrayed to be good; however, this genre of writers showed man to be flawed and relatively more human. Their characters also practiced conservatism, self-control, and restraint.
A large number of literary works came out during this period, which included parody, fables, melodrama, rhyming with couplets, satire, letters, diaries, novels, and essays. More emphasis was given to grammar and etymology (study of words).
My intro was simply answering the question of "Is she a Dr.?" Medically? No - but, PhD's were around long before MD's, so, walking through the process, the final answer is/was - yeah, she's a PhD who can call "herself" a Dr. even though she's not a medical Dr.
And that is one of the issues in today's world of "What did/do they really mean with what they said?"
And the answer is it "might not" be what you think it means - so, be careful how you respond.
not necessarily
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Good gawd. What a waste of words. It is just another example of Biden hate. Excoriating a doctorate level First Lady and somehow forgetting we were subject to a second level porn star.
Appreciated, thanks for clearing this up.
Nobody's buying the bullshit, 1st. You're trying to make everybody else responsible for you being wrong. We're not. You are. I know you'd like to save face here, but you're not going to do so at the expense of those who were right in the first place.
Satire is not just repeatedly and obstinately stating the opposite of what is true, then saying "I was only joking!" when persistence in that falsehood no longer passes.
What, exactly, is your point? Seems like you are arguing that a PhD in Engineering is an actual degree.
Nobody has suggested otherwise.
Melania was never a porn star, but I appreciate your comparative point.
WTF is that for? It is a DOCTORAL DEGREE so one could be called doctor just as one in education is
Didn't someone above suggest that someone was confusing a PhD with a PE
What on Earth do you think you are debating? Nobody has claimed that a doctorate in Engineering is NOT a PhD. Quite the opposite.
And the right to be called Doctor is what Sandy and I have been arguing in this thread.
Yes, that was suggested. So what is your point?
That has nothing to do with my comment
I'm sorry. You made it sound as though you didn't think there was such a thing with your comment only a PE. I stand corrected
It's all good
Then, I'd recommend you read some of the works I mentioned. Much is out there that is unknown until found.
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I'm widely read, 1st. Quite widely enough to know the difference between actual satire and somebody trying to play off a mistake with "I meant to do that."
It's possible that you might need to broaden your horizons.
Look at some of the authors I listed - way beyond this satire seed.
The seed is satire, albeit poor and ineffectual satire, for reasons Trout pointed out. Honestly, if this is how you judge satire, I think we may have identified the problem. It's an issue of low standards.
or no standards
No, the alleged satire - did not kind of nail it - it's not funny at all
Says you and Trout. Tell her to ignore it.
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Nobody here is pissed off. They're just not amused because the satire isn't that good. It's trying to be funny, but it's just not. If Jill Biden held an MD, it would have been mildly funny at best.
Well, I'll correct myself. Some folks here are pissed off. But that's because they were caught in a glaring error, and nobody believes them when they can't even garner support for their weak excuses from their tag team.
Comon Sandy! Have you ever laughed at a joke about Biden?
Remember when the old twitter tried to ban the Babylon Bee? They tried to do it here to.
They don't see the satire here. It is because of the subject matter.
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They don't have to fucking read it. Very easy solution to a bullshit problem driven solely by who the seeder is and, the subject matter. EXTREMELY easy solution.
Evidently a NT member?
The solution is to find a safe space.
Here's what happens Tex: While we worry about inflation and crime and gas prices and the crisis in education, they concern themselves with a rebirth of "Nazism."
ONLY in your mind due to the seeder and the subject matter. period
NO, NOT TRUE PERIOD.
They're never funny.
No, because satire is supposed to be funny, this is not.
One can understand an intended joke without finding it to be funny. Everybody isn't cut out to be a comedian.
Public forum, Jim. They are allowed to read it, and point out the flaws in the logic.
And for those who actually understand what satire is - it hits the mark.
In THEIR opinion. Why put oneself through the pain of knowing your opinion is falling on deaf ears. To bitch and complain is the only reason I see. And the perception, through up votes, that your opinion is accepted. Sad thing is, only by the like minded
Cuz you don't like what may be underlying truth to an extent just taken to a new level. That is what satire is.
We all understand what satire is. Some satire is better than other satire. Some is embarrassment attempting to pass itself off as satire.
Again, all opinion of the reader.
Deaf ears? Is that why this thread is so long?
As is all entertainment, or attempts at it.
No Sandy - not EVERYBODY understands what satire is. That is VERY EVIDENT by some of the comments attempted.
Due to the fact that there are differing opinions of what is satire and what isn't. For those who say this isn't, that is a pretty arrogant assessment challenging other's opinions.
Agreed. So why some have to bunch their panties up and try to force their opinions on others is a fool's errand.
Everybody here has demonstrated ample knowledge of satire. Trout demonstrated enough to point out that the satire in the article was weak, due to being based on Dr. Biden's title, when that honorific is not conferred by a medical degree.
They also demonstrated knowledge of satire when they chose not to accept your attempt to explain away your mistake as satire.
They know what it is, and what it isn't.
How, exactly, is an opinion being forced on you? You have the same option you expect them to exercise - don't read it. Nobody is propping your eyelids open with toothpicks.
It's no more arrogant for them to challenge your opinion than it is for you to state your opinion.
Please stop. You are showing that you "truly" don't understand satire and also are using your bias to denigrate other's comments.
Contrary to your, JMHO, responses, my comments were totally within the realm of "correct" satire as evidenced by the authors I listed for your review.
Dryden, Swift and Donne should be ample enough to light your path to understanding what satire is/or isn't intended to be.
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Nah. We all see what you've been doing, 1st. You're trying to pin your mistake on everybody else.
Well, that's just hilarious, Jim. Do you even see the irony in saying
and then turning right around and saying
Because first, you imply that some folk's opinions shouldn't be challenged, and then you say opinions vary.
I wonder whose opinions you think shouldn't be challenged?
Bullshit
I didn't say they shouldn't be challenged. It is a ridiculous assertion that they shouldn't. As you can see by the amount of comments on this, opinions vary and it should be dropped at that as no one's mind is going to be changed for fuck's sake. One comment of "this isn't funny satire" should be enough
I didn't say they shouldn't but to keep dwelling on it is a fucking ridiculous game of "follow me down the rabbit hole". See 5.1.186 and the first sentence if you need a reminder.......................it's a game played by a select few on this site trying to sway the unswayable. 227 comments and several doing just that. Arguing what is and isn't. Welcome to the fifth grade playground.
So, saying it is arrogant to challenge an opinion is supporting that challenge?
In which version of the English language, Jim?
Here's the thing - nobody would be dwelling on anything if the folks here who insisted that "Doctor" was reserved for medial doctors had just owned up to the fact that they were wrong. They didn't want to do that, so they tried to turn their mistake around on everybody else. And now they're getting called out for it. And they will continue to get called out every time they attempt to deride the rest of us (who were correct) for their own determined indifference to facts.
This thread would have withered away yesterday, and this seed would have received every bit as little attention as it deserved, had some folks not first persisted in pushing incorrect information and then tried to make fun of everybody else an object of ridicule for not agreeing to a flat-out falsehood.
Does DDS qualify you as a doctor? And if so, do you insist that everyone refer to you as that?
As it stands for "Doctor of Dental Surgery", yes. I hold a doctorate in my field, and am properly addressed as "Doctor" in a formal setting.
Whether I use that title depends on the situation.
Most of my undergrad instructors had doctorates in their fields, both in the sciences and in general studies courses. They were PhDs for the most part. The Dean of the Chapel was a Doctor of Divinity, I believe. All who held such degrees were addressed as "Doctor".
My dental school instructors were likewise almost all addressed as "Doctor" - both the clinical faculty, who were dentists or medical doctors, and the science faculty, who held PhDs in their fields.
As 1st (finally) admitted, anybody who has earned a doctorate in their field is a "Doctor" in that field, whatever that field happens to be.
I call my dentist, Mashkikiiwinini Dunn or for short ''Hey Mash'' he does know it means Doctor in Ojibwe. We have a unique relationship since he also served in the 101st Airborne for 8 years and is a Chumash Indian.
Addressing him as Doctor in either English or Ojibwe is a sign of respect for the work that he did in obtaining his degree and skills. Simple as that.
Kavika, my dentist is also an Army Dentist Vet as well, I don’t know how long he is going to continue, but when he retires, I’ll take my business to his son. He has seen every kind of dental issue and I think that he has imparted his manner and work ethic on his son. Nothing but respect.
Well congrats on that. Most people I know would refer to you as their dentist. If one said "that's my doctor" what do you think they would think? Unless the conversation was specific to dentistry, there would have been a question asked for clarification. Same with Dr. Biden which is where this all began. Doctor of what?
Thanks for the back and forth. And have a good night. and I hope you don't take this as some of your compadres would as a victory. It was a discussion pure and simple. Thanks again.
You are equating "doctor" with "physician". A physician is a medical doctor. You do know that there are other kinds of doctors, right? You are aware that the title is not the same as the job description, yes?
Dr. Biden has never claimed to be a medical doctor. She uses the honorific to which she is entitled. She does not claim to be "a doctor". She prefers to be called "Dr. Biden", as is her right.
Of course it was a discussion. One in which some people repeatedly held to incorrect information, and others didn't.
“Doctor of what?”
it sure as heck isn’t doctor of fractions.
Petty.
Bullshit taunting. I guess the truth hurts against the “untouchables” huh?
Ah there’s that I’m right you’re wrong arrogance. Thanks for showing your true colors once again
Most people do not have a primary care PhD so the phrase "that's my doctor" typically means their primary care physician. Similarly, we colloquially use the phrase "my dentist" when referring to our primary dental professionals. Colloquial references do not determine when and how the honorific "doctor" is applied.
The honorific applies to MD, DDS, DMD, PhD, and every other advanced degree holder who has achieved a doctorate.
It is that simple. It is amazing that after all this some people still do not understand this basic idea.
The above posting is what is the issue and why you got your last ticket. You made your comment about Sandy and not the content of her comment. Just FYI.
Facts are facts. We are all entitled to our own opinions. We are not entitled to our own facts. It is a fact, and not an opinion, that the title "Doctor" is used to denote those with doctorates who are not medical doctors. To say that this is not so IS wrong, and to say that false statements are wrong is not arrogant.
What happened to afrayedknot's comment calling me a dick? I'll tell you. Post, it goes to the inbox, then delete. Have seen that bullshit used by "others".
Where is that post?
Exactly. I opened it from my inbox and it didn't show up when it directed me here. I since cleaned my inbox. Sorry
I just checked the logs and it seems that he deleted his own comment.
My point. The old get the insult in and don't suffer the consequences. Just like a certain member used to do all the time before you took away their edit ability. If they know it goes into your inbox, they got the message through without penalty. Thanks for looking
WE understand very well what satire is - and what passes for satire with certain members does not hit the mark. It's. Not. Funny. Period.
The latter is what this attempt at satire is.
Just what do you think DDS stand for? Doctor of Dental Surgery, so YES.
I had a lot of dental work done at the School of Dentistry when I worked for the School of Medicine at the University of Maryland and yes indeed, they are DOCTORS.
There's that I cannot admit I'm wrong arrogance.
In my job I use acronyms all the time. DDS could mean quite a few things. "Dedicated Driver Service", "Digger / Dredger Service", etc..
Some refuse to admit they're wrong and there's also the need for the last word with some.
Gee, I wonder who you're referring to here.
Just got to have the last word.
Isn't this meta Perrie and JJ????? And your absolute need for the last word.
How many times does JRinNC need to be told he's on ignore?
Continue JRinNC
I believe they were students getting "on the job" experience and they were NOT doctors yet. We have that ability here too. They love and need the experience.....and it is inexpensive compared to practices
Irrelevant. The context here is acronyms that include "Doctor". Surely you can see that.
Wonder? Really?
Opinions will vary.
I know they weren't doctors yet. They were overseen by DOCTORS of DENTAL SURGERY AND PROFESSORS.
Your point?
Or just your need for the last word and inability to admit you're wrong?
Wrong about what? I am not the one with lastworditis. You may have it now. This "exchange" is over
Give me a break. Just because she has a d by her you defend her, [deleted]
I am not nor never was a D. My preferred candidate (now former) for PotUS is an R. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Your comment criticized Biden because of errors in her dissertation. Petty crap.
She was granted her doctorate (Ed. D) by an accredited university (University of Delaware). The professional educators there determined that she was qualified for the rank of Ed. D. so who exactly are you to question their judgment? If they found her errors to not be show stoppers why do you make such a petty criticism?
Answer: in your case, IMO, it IS partisanship. Objective individuals typically do not make a big deal about irrelevant factors.
What does Trump's scarlet A stand for?
And yet her husband is a blithering idiot. Not much of an educator is she?
I think you owe blithering idiots an apology for insulting their intelligence.
I don't know. Many of them voted for this idiot subjecting us all to this insanity.
Which leads us to the actual degree she holds, which is an Ed.D—a doctorate in education, not a Ph.D.
Only one is entitled to be called "doctor."
Well, it's not the first time they have made untrue claims. Won't be the last.
Not quite. The EdD holder is less likely to be called doctor (as opposed to those holding PhDs) but an EdD holder is entitled to be called doctor. It is a doctorate degree.
This is so petty. Another example of the sorry state of US politics.
If Melania Trump was the Ed.D holder, the entire media would burn in hell before they would call her a "doctor." The Biden team wanted to push this BS when he became president. If we learned anything during the pandemic it is not to trust people simply because they have a title or a fucking degree.
Oh wow, that is quite a response!
and the best we get from that direction.
Your usual projection
Go by what is true rather than engaging in a ‘they do it so we can too’ justification. That style of tit-for-tat emotional reasoning is at the heart of divisiveness and the abysmal political environment we must endure.
Totally concur.
Amazing how this is being commented about. She is entitled to be called a doctor, it's as simple as that. Perhaps some of our NT graduates who hold either a PhD or EdD can explain that she is entitled. Many of the comments I've seen on here lead some to believe that they are experts in this.
It has been explained repeatedly. Some refuse to accept reality when it compromises their partisan narrative. The facts stated here can be easily corroborated with simple Google queries.
As the saying goes, ''we don't need no stinkin' facts'' they get in the way of BS being spread.
Over the last few years, you have worn out that terminology to the point where it is both irrelevant, like the race card and fascist, and makes one wonder if you even know what the term means ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sad
I use it so often because it's true and it happens so often among the usual offenders.
Such as yourself?
No, you, [removed]
There are lots ot Doctors, It is a top degree and takes a lot of work and means you know your stuff and are a professional. All deserve the title
I have a cousin who got a PhD in Biology before he went to medical school, He liked it when I called him Doctor Doctor
Good for him. A PhD is considered of higher status than an MD in academia.
My dad gets a lot bigger kick out of hearing me being called "Doctor" than I ever did. I really only ever use it at continuing ed meetings, to save confusion about whether I'm a dentist, hygienist, office staff, etc., or when I'm calling another dentist about a patient. We all try not to interrupt each other at work, because it messes up schedules, so when I really need to talk to another dentist about a pt, I make sure to give them my name (title and all), and say it's about a patient. They do the same in return. If Dr. Jones calls about Mrs. Smith's complicated root canal, I know he probably needs to talk to me really soon, and maybe right now, so I make time. Otherwise, it's first names.
My staff have always been allowed to call me "Sandy", but only one will.
"Welcome to the fifth grade playground."