Divider in Chief gets heckled
Joe Biden followed up his hate filled rant at Valley Forge with a day of pandering to black voters at Mother Emanuel Church laid out the central theme of his 2024 campaign messaging: Joe is like George Washington and Donald Trump is like Hitler. Unlike his campaign speech at Valley Forge which was by invitation only (To faithful Biden supporters,) old Joe faced a bit of unexpected heckling at what should have been another Nuremberg like rally.
It seems that there were a few of those wonderful pro-Palestinian protesters there calling for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas conflict. The Jim Clyburn crowd tried to drown them out by chanting "four more years!"
Old Joe, as always, had to accommodate those on the far left and said:
“I understand their passion,” Biden said, acknowledging the protesters, as well as a rift that’s divided some within the Democratic Party. “I’ve been quietly working with the Israeli government to get them to reduce and significantly get out of Gaza.”
Biden speech in South Carolina church interrupted by protesters - Democratic Underground
The ending may have been the best part. Unlike at Valley Forge when Jill Biden had to take Joe by the hand and lead him off the stage, this time he found his way out.
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I stand with those who favor less divisive politics.
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Bullshit. You stand with those who support your point of view. Your POV includes Trump as President. There is no more divisive figure in American politics. Therefore, your assertion is false.
This weekly or twice weekly column on NT is otherwise known as the community punching bag.
Let me see:
"Deplorables," "racists," "xenophobes," "Islamophobes," and "clingers."
Nope, I'm afraid my assertion is absolutely correct.
You wish
WTF have you been. The Democrats, especially Brandon, have passed Trump on the fly. Leftist just accept their divisiveness is all.
You did not address my rebuttal but merely came up with a list of words. Presumably they have some meaning beyond the dictionary definition. What precisely that is one cannot be sure. So this list of words with no backing logic and the bare assertion that one is correct is merely just that: Bare assertion.
You are kidding ......right?
You forgot, "Hitler," "Nazi," and "end of democracy"
don't forget about thumpers...
I believe it was 'bitter clingers'
That must be why you call Democrats communists, socialists, radicals, race hustlers, etc.
Race will always be an issue in America. Number one, there are millions of racists in America, and number two, a large number of white racists insist that they are the real victims, and act like it.
"Number one, there are millions of racists in America"
Totally ignorant and uninformed lie.
And one where all are expected to voice poutrage!
That's quite a generalization. Can you prove that with real statistics?
Nope.
Well, not unless we redefine what 'white supremacist' means!
“Race will always be an issue in America.”
So sad, so wrong, but so true.
Until we can collectively acknowledge this truth…we will be subject to reluctance, resistance, and continual contempt of those who dare shine a light on the dark intentions.
I dont think people answer census questions on that subject. There has been polling and surveys that show a percentage of people that would amount to millions of the population harbor racially biased views.
Just as long as people make it so through division and special concessions made because of race.
One can not end racism by practicing it.
Acknowledging its existence does nothing about the problem, either.
Then you should stop saying it.
There has been polling and surveys that show a percentage of people that would amount to millions of the population harbor racially biased views.
It doesn't show anything.
Do you consider every racially biased view to be the views of racists?
Or just white poeple's?
I'm very specific. I say things about public figures for good reason. I don't come on with calling an entire groups racist like we see in post 1.1.
Race will always be an issue in America.
As long as there are Marxist professors using race.
Too much money in being a race-hustler.
“As long as there are Marxist professors using race.”
The disdain for higher education is well documented…forgetting that racism is a learned behavior from an early age…inculcated by ignorance and fear long before a child enters the college system.
Platitudes are nice and all but they don't solve any problems.
So what you are saying is that college professors learned to be racist from their parents? that's why they think that there should be different criteria for African Americans that there are for white or Asian students?
Two university presidents just resigned because they couldn't condemn antisemitism on campus.
“So what you are saying is that college professors…”
…are teaching how racism is a part of our culture. Apparently scary stuff for some.
They are educating all of us, if we would just listen, that we should acknowledge it, how we can address it, and how we must change it. Emphasis on we…as it effects all of us in every aspect of our lives…educationally, judicially, economically, and societally.
They are "educating" us that race defines your life and that racial discrimination is just. Same view of the world Nazis and Jim Crow advocates have.
Not scary to me, as long as they college professors perpetuate it, it will be part of our culture, as long as democrats keep perpetuating the myth that African Americans can't compete without their help it will be part of our culture. you see facts don't make me run away or scare me, Obama was a good president, but he allowed children to be sold to sex traffickers because of his border policies. this is also a fact. Obama was a boon to the child sex trafficking industry, on a far larger scale than Epstein could of ever dreamed of.
They could never use the class struggle in America. There was just too much upward mobility, but the use of "race" has worked for them. You can't change your race.
Which is odd... Because you can supposedly change your sex just by saying you have changed it, despite their being a much stronger biological basis for sex as opposed to race.
They perceived that race could be much more toxic. After all this country had done to end discrimination, they came right back and created racial division and called it "education."
Racism is defined as “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.” I don't know how to measure levels of “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism" or of what magnitude of disdain counts as “superiority.” How do you measure the level necessary to exceed bias or prejudice and reach racist?
You might just as well say there is no socialism in America, no wokeism in America, no inequality in America, homophobia in America, no nothing in America.
I think the answer might lie somewhere between millions and none.
“Obama was a good president, but he allowed children to be sold to sex traffickers because of his border policies…”
God gawd. Read that again. Try to explain it. Who could possibly vote that up unless they are explicit in their cultism.
Starting with those first five words!
Did Elizabeth Warren get this memo?
She tried, but Trump caught up to her!
And again here it is. Obama administration placed children with human traffickers, report says - The Washington Post
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People who actually know the facts, Let me guess, trump is responsible for everything but Obama wasn't responsible for what his policies did, Do you hold him to a lower standard because of his race?
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You are so into the cult of Obama that the Washington post is a Qanon source now? Dismissed.
“Dismissed.”
As you and your churlish comments will be going forward.
Democrats will make sure of it. They get their power from it. Keeping people divided is what they are all about.
The majority being Democrats/leftists who seem to think Blacks, Latinos, and other minorities can't do anything on their own and must be continuously pandered to. They can't get ID's to vote. They can't register. They're too lazy to vote in person. They need preferential treatment on jobs- "The color of their skin matters more than the content of their being."
Again talking about white Democrats any time something doesn't go their way. They are the ultimate victims. Just ask them.
Joe Biden, who was a good friend of an Exalted Cyclops of the KKK (Robert Byrd), clearly practiced this yesterday in Charleston by telling a Black congregation that "white supremacy" is [still] a great threat to our "democracy".
Was that the same Joe Biden that sponsored the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that imprisoned so many Black men?
Was that the same Joe Biden who during the democrat presidential debates during a question on racism said that African American women were too stupid to raise their own children and we need to send social workers to help them?
Yes, it was but nuance is always part of history, and the ''crack'' epidemic was tearing black communities apart the bill was supported by the majority of blacks and many black mayors of cities. Gallup did a poll in 1994 that showed 58% of blacks supported the bill and 49% of whites supported the bill.
The next logical question would be, did it reduce crime, again a nuanced question but one side of it shows that crime by whites dropped 17%, for Hispanics 26%, and 34% for blacks.
Let's forget the bill also contained the landmark ''Violence Against Women Act''...
Racism is learned...usually from parents.
It's also the same racist Joe Biden who Kamala Harris eviscerated when it came to school busing during a debate.
I remember a Sen Biden that sponsored a bill limiting courts’ powers to order bussing but also an amendment to an appropriations bill that barred the federal government from withholding funding from schools that remained segregated. Co-sponsors included segregationist Jesse Helms, and Strom Thurmond. Of course Blue Wilmington Del was part of a bussing court order so Bide had state support.
I think it was the same year that Boston police had to protect Black children from racist blue white adults when the courts order bussing there.
I remember when a group of Republicans blocked the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women's Act because Native American and Alaska Native women were covered and immigrant women were covered. I guess then didn't think that women of color need be protected.
It wasn't until 2005 that NA/AN were covered by the bill.
Is that your defense of Biden's past?
Didn’t SCOTUS find that parts of the original act unconstitutional?
It's obvious to most that it's a response to drinker and that Biden doesn't seem to be the only one that uses race in politics.
Yes, they did as shown below which had nothing to do with the NA/AN women being excluded.
The most important part of this act for NA/AN to be covered is that the rate of sexual assault againt them is three times the national average. 80 plus % of the crimes are comitted by non Indians against Indians.
No, it is the truth.
No, millions would be correct.
Truth, of course usually from their parents, unfortunately a lot of them don't grow up and wake up
I don't know why I am bothering to ask but do show a link to your documentation. This goes for your comment on1.3.48 also.
Do hope you're not holding your breath waiting.
Have been friends with many folk of color throughout my life as a musician and some have told me that they hate white folk saying that they have many black friends (so they seem to be not racist). The worst Catch 22 of all time.
Fuck all racists no matter what color they are!
Democrats question whether Biden should agree to debate Trump.
Democrats question whether Biden should agree to debate Trump | The Hill
It wouldn't be a good idea.
While questions around Biden's current mental abilities are being asked, there's no doubt that Trump would use such a platform to attack and regurgitate old issues. But we've not seen a presidential general election without a candidate debate since Nixon refused to participate in any debate in 1968 and 1972. Not sure that he could get away without being in a debate and I'm confident if he were to refuse to debate the RNC would use that in a series of attack ads.
I dont think Biden wants Trump shouting at him and constantly interrupting him again. In 2020 Trump may have ruined the prospect of presidential debates for the foreseeable future (until Trump is dead and gone).
I wouldn't want that either. But Biden needs to confront the image that a lot of people have that he is not mentally capable of holding the office if re-elected. I think the bigger fear that the Biden team has is that Biden could not handle Trump shouting at him and his inability to debate would impact his re-election changes. From my perspective, Biden has been well protected by his team and there's just no way they can protect him in a debate setting. But he needs to do something or many people will go into the election thinking he's just not up to it.
Damn, I miss the days when candidates would tell us who they were and what they wanted to do in office that would impact our lives and make our lives better.
What Biden needs to do is a long interview with a "neutral" media figure and answer unscripted questions. That would be the best indicator available as to whether or not he has lost it.
The same for Trump.
Biden might stumble a few times in such an environment, and Trump would lie his ass off. I'll take the stumbler.
I would love to see that, but I doubt that one could find a "neutral" media figure. The level of trust for the media is tied with the level of trust in the federal government at 32%.
I think it is more likely that old Joe doesn't want to answer real questions about his performance as president. In the debate that you are referring to, Joe had the line about all the intelligence officials who thought the laptop resembled Russian disinformation. What a dirty trick that was. They could still help him I'm sure.
it would be rather interesting to hear him keep explaining how inflation it just temporary 3 YEARS later and how he has 'secured' the border!
I would tune in just for THAT!
So trump has ruined the GOP, America, democracy and now Presidential debates. is there anything you can't blame on trump?
Hyperbole noted.
I really can't see how anyone can think the debates actually matter. Hell, one can't even call them legitimate debates.
Shouting, insulting and interrupting are all old Biden tactics. He was still threatening to fight a voter for questioning him just a few years ago. If he wants to pretend to be the guy who's dealing with adversarial foreign leaders, he should be able to stand toe to toe with another old man for a few hours and deal with him.
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Maybe this time Trump will give Biden a good 30 minutes to collect his thoughts.
We don't need an opinion piece from the Chicago Tribune for that. We had Chris Wallace jumping out of his seat every 5 minutes telling the President not to interrupt old Joe.
Hey, whatever happened to Chris Wallace?
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More bullshit from leftist talking heads? There is a never ending supply of it; and you seem to be able to find it readily enough.
Brandon can't defend himself- so his media sycophants do it for him.
Not long enough.
That is a good way to describe Biden.
That bastard ruined my 4th of July picnic. Fricking climate change (of which Trump is solely responsible for) caused the mayo to turn.
hehe... we can all play that game, can't we...
Since those reviews were written we have learned about the 50 Intelligence officials who contributed to Biden's key statement and the lie they told.
Poor baby. How a candidate handles being interrupted says alot about him. Have you never seen a debate or even an interview of people on TV that do not share the same political views?
trump's afraid to debate the maga ass kissers and pardon promisers in his own party...
profiles in cowardice...
That sounds like projection coming from anyone who backed someone who hid in his basement for a solid year.
Probably not. In 2020 Trump was credited on having put on one of the most lunatic displays in political debate history as he shouted at Biden, the moderator, the audience and the tv viewers, and interrupted Biden dozens of times.
Its best to keep such unhinged and disgraceful behavior off our television sets.
Biden is doing a good job of disgracing himself every day for all America to see all by himself.
He couldn't let Biden continue to lie. I'm sure many people wish they had listened.
Take him off the ballot, keep him off TV, tell reporters to report on bidenomics "the roght way" and then tell us all about how the dems care about a fair election to protect democracy.
You can't make this shit up.
It is amazing. I've never seen a President turn himself into a Roomba and wander around the stage after an incoherent speech like Traitor Joe does.
Only if the Easter Bunny can be there with him.
Oh yes, for guidance.
Trump won't debate anyone, he's a coward that runs and hides.
It would be a great idea! Biden would destroy Trump.
(And Tromp knows it)
I think some hard core leftist lib Democrats may be terrified of such a debate happening.
They never know how bad Biden can be. On rare occasions, when it counts, he is sometimes up to the task. I have no idea why that is.
An old friend of mine once told me the secret of life is better living through modern pharmaceuticals. In his particular case he was referring to weed but hey, other stuff applies.
I would add appreciating what you have.
There’s no way Biden will debate trump or anyone else. There aren’t enough stimulants in the world to keep him focused for hours
In this election cycle, how many people has trump debated?
0
Trump is now completely insane and his handlers don't want the world seeing it.
Biden is beginning to crack. Biden attempting to stir up racial grievances from the pulpit is an act of desperation. Biden's political future (and legacy) hinges on one SCOTUS ruling.
If SCOTUS allows CO to ban Trump from the primary ballot then the floodgates will open. Trump will be banned on too many ballots to allow him winning the Republican nomination. That scraps Biden's entire re-election playbook. Biden has been planning to campaign as a challenger to Trump instead of running as an incumbent. Without Trump, Biden will have to defend his record.
Biden's race-baiting politics won't fly so high this time, either. There are too many prominent Black politicians in the news cycle. Black mayors of New York City and Chicago are whining about illegal immigrants destroying their cities. A Black chancellor of Harvard had to resign due to a self inflicted controversy. A Black Sec. of Defense has also created his own controversy that is headline news. A veteran Black SCOTUS Justice is under scrutiny for questionable ethics; another self inflicted controversy. The Vice President is a woman of color that the Biden administration is trying to hide from the public because of her self inflicted controversies. Black District Attorneys and prosecutors in two states are going to fulfill Democrat expectations for jailing Donald Trump.
Biden has screwed himself and he won't be allowed to hide that fact. Biden botched up the end of one war and has dragged the country into two new quagmires. Biden's climate change politics has drifted into the absurd and now the energy independence of the US is in serious danger. Biden's profligate spending has caused inflation that robbed retirement savings of their value and pushed the cost of the American Dream out of the reach of main street. And main street knows its been screwed; they've been here before.
If Trump is banned from running then Biden becomes an inconsequential one-term President. Biden's legacy becomes an Obama quote; do not underestimate Joe Biden's ability to screw up everything.
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When I return, we may cover the Golden Globes Awards.....
Reminds me of the cartoon Zippy...
Are you sad that she makes much more money than you do?
Should I be? Because I'm not.
And you know that how?