Still the voice of the people
Last night was the final town hall event scheduled by Fox News in Iowa over the past three nights. On Monday it was Nikki Haley, on Tuesday it was Gov Ron DeSantis and last night it was the people's candidate former President Donald Trump.
He stuck to all the issues, was concise and reminded Iowans of his many achievements in his first term. We also heard of his new plans for a second term. I loved the way he handled the tough questions. One was from a Pro-Life woman who said she was deeply concerned about his new stance on abortion: IE leaving it to the states. Trump reminded her that it was he that appointed those Supreme Court Justices who corrected the wrongly decided Roe decision. I believe he put it "If it wasn't for me, you wouldn't even have got as far as you have." And then he pointed out that none of it is any good if it costs well qualified Republican candidates elections. I think everyone in the room got it. Abortion is now a matter for the states and Republicans must leave the issue for better or worse.
There is always witty humor when Trump is on the stage and so it was last night. A question arose over Gov DeSantis and Trump responded with "If it wasn't for me Ron DeSantis would be working in a Pizza parlor somewhere." I spilled my drink and I've been laughing ever since.
Donald Trump ended the Town Hall by going into the crowd to take more questions and sign autographs. There was a raging snowstorm outside the hall. Trump said he would have to head right back to NYC to try and personally deliver a closing argument in the Civil Trial (a very low bar for a conviction) where a Trump hating judge and attorney general were closely working together to screw him.
Still the voice of average Americans!
May God bless him.
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It won't be oatmeal today.
Today we celebrate the coming contempt citation of one Hunter Biden. Yesterday Hunter's snake like mercenary lawyer pulled a stunt in which Hunter Biden crashed his contempt of congress hearing. As predicted the democrats on the committee tried to act as Hunter's attorneys and chaos ensued. As soon as it appeared that Marjorie Taylor Greene would ask Hunter a question, Hunter's attorneys, Kevin Morris and Abbe Lowell, (the best hired guns in the business) quickly escorted Hunter out of the hearing room.
trump won't be giving any closing arguments in court today, because he wouldn't agree to keep his remarks based upon the facts of the case, and wanted to turn his court appearance into a circus for the willfully ignorant, his supporters...
Is that the reason a defendant can't speak in his own defense?
Or is it because this guy like the NY AG is blatantly biased?
They want to convict him of something before the election. That is the clear goal.
trump had his chance to speak, but he wanted to spew bullshit without fear of being cross examined.
I think the case can be made that this judge and the state AG have shown bias.
undoubtedly. trump should have been sitting in jail for contempt the last several months...
Looks like someone got a juvenile insult of the day calendar for Christmas.
i have the juvenile and the adult version, which pressures me to once again question, how your moniker was chosen ?
Don't succumb to pressure, stay strong.
Should have said "To pressure don't succumb, strong should stay"
All 70 plus millions of us?
Could you go over each bullet point and explain your reasoning?
why would I do that for someone unwilling to do that for others?
These investigations started before trump said he was running for president. So that's on him.
You are correct on every single point, as usual.
Ya
Sounds like a Democrats to me
I recently decided to increase my breakfast of oatmeal from one day a week to two. The internet provides a ton of articles about how healthy and good oatmeal is for you.
In order to do that, there will need to be MASSIVE spending cuts. I imagine stopping the free flow of money to Ukraine would be one of the first things to go.
Trump pointed out that when he was President oil was $40 a barrel. At that price Putin couldn't afford a war.
He had Iran isolated and broke. That is war # 2 that likely wouldn't have happened.
I'm sure a lot of what Biden blew taxpayer money on would be cut under Trump.
Morning Joe: "Joe Biden’s work and America’s economy is the envy of the world. How do we get that message out to voters?”
No wonder the stupid tune in.
I'm sure virtually all the additional spending under Traitor Joe would be cut. I also wouldn't be surprised to see much of that money shift toward things that will benefit the US (you know, unlike we've seen with Traitor Joe).
You mean like scrapping the enormous cost of 86,852 new IRS agents in favor of more Border Patrol Agents?
Ya, I can see Trump doing that in his first month back in office.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that built into a spending bill passed by the last Congress? I don't think that a President can move money allocated to one department over to another department by an Executive Order, doesn't that need to be run thru and voted on thru Congress?
That would be a good start. I also foresee a lot of push back from the whining idiots who supported the inflating of the IRS.
And don't forget America's natural resources will once again be developed on day 1 of a Trump administration. The price of energy will come down.
Step two securing the border and rounding up all the illegals for deportation.
Yup, I foresee a lot of whining!
No, but the president can freeze spending. He doesn't have to allocate resources given.
Nice words, unfortunately trump ADDED 8 Trillion to the debt in 4 years.
Of course, he will do anything he can to support Putin.
That's generally what is used when conversations happen.
So you expect me to ignore the Trillions Traitor Joe has added in 3? Nice try.
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Henny Youngman and Rodney Dangerfield must be rolling in their graves.
Although DeSantis is an irredeemable clown , he is a Harvard trained lawyer and without Trump would most likely be making a very good living as a corporate attorney.
Yes, I know John. I happen to think highly of Gov DeSantis. You have to admit: IT WAS FUNNY!
If you have low standards.
If I had low standards, I'd be tuning into the Biden & Harris show.
"If you have low standards."
You can't get any lower than Biden and Harris, aka Dumb and Really Dumb.
No, it wasn't.
Or none
Are they supposed to be funny?
Are they supposed to be funny? “
Take my wife, no take my wife, she deserves no respect neither
'There is always witty humor when the former 'president' is on the stage'
I did a spit take when I read that garbage and I'm still laughing!
Maybe somebody can help me with this?
Last week someone here questioned why a practicing Catholic like Joe Biden would sick the FBI on Catholics.
Didn't Joe Biden just tell a church full of Black parishioners that he grew up in a Black church?
Damn it Vic. We aren't supposed to call out Traitor Joe's lies. That goes against the narrative and makes people cry.
Not a single word from the media.
We won't see anything from them. Their just as culpable as that mouth of a Press Secretary.
Right now, they are saying that Trump said he wanted the economy to crash. Last week they claimed that Trump did indeed say he literally wanted to be a dictator.
You have to be an idiot to believe them.
But they also say that everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is a lie.
As long as they can truncate and edit his words they can go on and on.
The usual CNN viewers eat it right up.
So after years of them shrieking "Trumps a liar" they suddenly believe him? You can't make up that level of idiocy.
Do the Puerto Ricans who raised him know?
I think it's called the Mandella effect.
“Still the voice of the people”
How many Americans wish to be associated with this deviant miscreant, morally deficient pile of excrement ?
I know you believe the LYING POS, but do you honestly believe this many conspire to keep ole Trumpy down and unable to go hire, the best and the brightest dug up from the deepest cavernous depths of the swamp, who has amassed this little accomplishment?
” In all, Trump faces 91 felony counts across two state courts and two different federal districts, any of which could potentially produce a prison sentence. He's also dealing with a civil suit in New York that could force drastic changes to his business empire, including closing down its operations in his home state. Meanwhile, he is the leading Republican candidate in the race to become the next president—though lawsuits in several states seek to have him disqualified from the presidency. If the criminal and civil cases unfold with any reasonable timeliness, he could be in the heat of the campaign trail at the same time that his legal fate is being decided.“
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Trump is the WORST this country has to offer, and deep down Vic, you know he is WRONG for the job of leader of the free world, and if you truly don’t realize this, then hopefully, in your words,
“May god bless him.” and You !
Because the left fears his candidacy.
We shall overcome!
They fear his sick demented poor excuse of a functioning brain, as he is a danger to this country, and the world at large.
As you have learned: NEVER COUNT HIM OUT!
Trump IS OUT
to lunch even !
Breaking:
NY State AG Letitia James viciously attacks Trump on last day of trial, brags that her office will present closing arguments today, after the judge denied same opportunity to Trump.
She claims Trump is a fraudster who intentionally inflated the value of his assets to deceive lenders. She writes, "Today, my office will present our closing arguments in our trial against Donald Trump for financial fraud.
"For years, Donald Trump engaged in significant financial fraud to enrich himself and his family. "No matter how rich or powerful you pretend to be, no one is above the law. "Before this trial even began, the court ruled in our favor and found that Donald Trump engaged in this fraud and unjustly enriched himself and his family. "During the trial, we revealed the full scale and scope of that fraud. "We heard from many witnesses: Trump, his family, his employees, and accountants. "Their testimony exposed the baseless values and fraud they used to inflate Donald Trump's net worth.
Simon Ateba on X: "BREAKING: @NewYorkStateAG Letitia James (@TishJames) viciously attacks Trump on last day of trial, brags that her office will present closing arguments today, after the judge denied same opportunity to Trump. She claims Trump is a fraudster who intentionally inflated the value of… https://t.co/9NPYmSUTVS" / X (twitter.com)
Here is the question of the day:
Can Donald Trump appeal this court's ruling and get it resolved before the election?
and why do you feel Trump is yet again, “the victim “
Because I have common sense.
That's not entirely true, the judge would have let Trump speak provided he agreed to limit the content to about the trial only and not introduce new items and/or make it a campaign speech. But we both know that's almost impossible for him to contain himself.
But this entire episode seems to me as a bad deal for the Trump haters. NY is using a law that unless I'm mistaken is not a law anywhere else in the country. There doesn't need to be a victim of fraud here, just the determination of the DA to bring it to trial. And this is a DA who campaigned on 'getting Trump'. Add in a judge who from the beginning seemed to be predisposed to find Trump guilty, who has donated to Democrat politicians. I believe the appeals are already prepared and ready to be submitted and I thing there's a very good chance that this will be overturned down the road.
I don't know if anybody has talked about this or not. As these are felony charges that can include jail time and the judge has appeared to be predisposed against Trump, what happens if Trump is found guilty and the judge orders jail as well as a fine? How much will be made of election interference in this case? I think it's gonna be a big can of worms if that happens. I'm popping the corn in anticipation.
Doesn't matter because this is a civil trial and not a criminal trial. The Clinton vs Jones civil trial set the precedent that civil rulings are not disqualifying for the office of President. Even Clinton's perjury during that civil trial did not rise to a sufficient level for an impeachment conviction.
Letitia James has been all about the money; hoping to use the courts to enrich New York. Apparently that's what gets votes in New York. Just keep in mind that Letitia James has not been representing the people of New York.
that might be the dumbest thing i have ever heard
The Constitution sets very few eligibility requirements for presidents. They must be at least 35 years old, be “natural born” citizens and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years. There are no limitations based on character or criminal record.
this is a civil case and does not include jail time
Any defendant should have the right to say the trial is a malicious prosecution.
That should be the defense in this case.
But this entire episode seems to me as a bad deal for the Trump haters. NY is using a law that unless I'm mistaken is not a law anywhere else in the country. There doesn't need to be a victim of fraud here, just the determination of the DA to bring it to trial. And this is a DA who campaigned on 'getting Trump'. Add in a judge who from the beginning seemed to be predisposed to find Trump guilty, who has donated to Democrat politicians. I believe the appeals are already prepared and ready to be submitted and I thing there's a very good chance that this will be overturned down the road.
Correct on all points. The problem is how soon is "down the road?" We are on fast tracts in all these cases for a verdict, but an appeal will be a much different matter.
I don't know if anybody has talked about this or not. As these are felony charges that can include jail time and the judge has appeared to be predisposed against Trump, what happens if Trump is found guilty and the judge orders jail as well as a fine?
If that cannot be overturned before the election, Biden will win easily.
How much will be made of election interference in this case?
It will be confined to America's free press which is Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and a few small organizations. Then it will die out and we will likely have a one-party nation.
I think it's gonna be a big can of worms if that happens.
It is likely.
Of course. When the facts are against you, claim persecution.
You know that Simon Ateba is the African reporter that Biden's idiot press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre barred from press briefings.
To rational human beings it is blatant.
This always struck me as funny. Seems the only people who have their panties in a wad are the left. The lenders, regulators and appraisers, apparently, were good with it all as the loan was approved and repaid with all finance charges included.
This also didn't become an issue until the left and Democrats accusations fell apart and they starting running out of things to "charge" him with.
ok, there are so many cases that I may have gotten confused. I read somewhere that these were felony charges that could include prison time but may have confused it with other cases as there are so many articles out there that lump all the cases together.
Don't you think most people see it that way?
"Critical thinkers" are calling this one the "weakest" of the cases.
weakest being their little euphemism for a sham trial.
Those on the left only see it the way they are told to. Not an original thought among them.
Look at the timing and the results of their "investigations" over the last 7 years. Many have amounted to absolute zero, many were found to be based on fiction, and what is left has not been put to the challenge of a defense team. Now couple this with the election cycle starting again...
Is the "investigation" into the origins of the pandemic in yet?
That's the one where Biden shut down the ongoing one when he took office and started a new one made up of his own investigators.
We all know there will not be a real investigation into that. Especially since they invested so much into the misinformation Fauci issued.
who cares ?
And here is what we do know about him:
Dr. Anthony Fauci once argued that conducting experiments on contagious viruses to increase their potency was worth the risk, even if the work could accidentally lead to a pandemic, it was revealed Friday.
The nation’s chief medical advisor wrote in the American Society for Microbiology in October 2012 of the public health benefit to gain-of-function viral experiments — which center on manipulating viruses and making them stronger — as long as there is significant oversight.
In the article, first reported by The Australian , Fauci also noted that a pause on such studies should continue until researchers can figure out how to do them more transparently.
Gain-of-function experiments are the sort of work that was being conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology when the COVID-19 pandemic first started in China in late 2019 and some experts fear a lab accident is what led to the global outbreak that killed 3.4 million.
In the 2012 paper, Fauci acknowledged the risky research could lead to serious lab accidents but the chance is rare and the work is “important” because it helps the scientific community prepare for naturally occurring pandemics.
Fauci once argued viral experiments worth the risk of pandemic (nypost.com)
Our critical thinkers say we should wait for the facts from Biden's investigators before forming an opinion.
Certainly not you.
I think we'll see Kamala do her job before we see anything of any substance from Traitor Joe's "investigators".
Lol
Supposedly she is working on her biography entitled "How I blew my way to the top."
A critical thinker would deem this case the weakest of the cases against Trump because the other ones have more serious consequences on the nation and are supported by overwhelming evidence of Trump's clear guilt.
This case, compared to that by GA, documents, and Jan 6 is the weakest of the set. That is not a euphemism for anything, it is simply a relative assessment of this case compared to others that are stronger.
Further, I personally am much more concerned about the wrongdoing of Trump while PotUS rather than those as a private citizen. The former sets a horrible precedent for the nation that needs to be reset.
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they all count
So much wrongdoing as opposed to a president who took money from foreign governments and lied about it, weaponized the DOJ & FBI and openned the southern border.
Yup, that's critical thinking alright.
The NY case is helping Trump. How about the GA one in which prosecutors met with the DOJ? Is that now in danger of an ethics problem?
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You leap to conclusions about Biden when the evidence is still only circumstantial. You translate partisan hyperbole into a claim that Biden weaponized the DOJ & FBI (i.e. claiming, absurdly, that Biden is driving the indictments against Trump). You claim that Biden opened the southern border instead of stating the truth that he has historically failed to properly secure the border due to a lack of desire, incompetence, or both. "Open the border" is a ridiculous exaggeration of the truth. The truth is bad enough, why exaggerate? And even so, failure to adequately deal with illegal immigration does not compare to what Trump gratuitously did:
You compare hyperbole to what Trump has actually done. Trump's wrongdoings are codified in 91 felony counts with substantial corroborating evidence and specifically named laws that he allegedly violated. If found guilty (likely), Trump will be the only PotUS who is a convicted felon. As it stands now prior to legal finding of guilt, Trump is the only PotUS who has attempted to steal a US presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. Trump violated his oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend the US CotUS by trying to circumvent same. Trump attempted to violate the foundation of democracy — the vote of the electorate. Trump is a traitor with abysmal character, no moral compass, demonstrable narcissist and pathological liar.
Short of not committing murder, one wonders how Trump could be a worse candidate for the most powerful office on the planet. Seems to me that even if Trump adds "convicted felon" to his list of admirable attributes, those voting for him will continue to do so.
You ignore the incredible level of definitive, evidenced wrongdoing of Trump but make exaggerations of Biden. That is partisan thinking, the exact opposite of critical thinking.
Due to the irrational nature of the GOP electorate, any case that goes against Trump helps him.
Is it your position that Trump did NOT engage in serious wrongdoing in the GA, classified docs, and Jan 6 cases?
This is not helpful.
Melania, Harris, etc. are not the problems. The problems are Biden and Trump. I find the attacks on these women to be uncalled for and degrading to women in general. They suggest that the only way a woman can be successful is by performing sex acts.
All these sham trials amount to is malicious prosecution and election interference.
see @6.1.38
I asked that the Harris meme be taken down, and it is not.
So fight fire with fire.
I can do it all Tig, I can take the high road and I can take the low road. What do they want ?
Do you believe that the GA, classified docs, and Jan 6 are all trials without merit — that Trump did nothing wrong?
You must be the last holdout. Yesterday, even the New York Times admitted that the southern border is wide open.
Was it "circumstantial evidence" that the FBI spied on Catholics?
Was it "circumstantial evidence" that the FBI got involved with social media censorship?
Was it "circumstantial evidence" that Biden has set a 50 percent EV goal by 2030?
Was it "circumstantial evidence" that Biden lied about talking to his son about "business?"
I think it is time you simply admit that you are in favor of such policies and activities.
A wide open border means that there is no attempt to stop illegal immigration. It is hyperbole ... an exaggeration of the condition. Just state the actual condition rather than exaggerate (and lose credibility). Do you really want to make that claim?
When evidence against Biden moves beyond circumstantial and into something that can be put forth to corroborate a charge, then you will have something. The endless partisan hyperbole is ridiculous. And I am not suggesting Biden has done no wrong. I, unlike you, need some quality evidence to corroborate allegations. We have that with Trump (in abundance). Not so (yet) with Biden.
The charges against Trump are substantially beyond partisan hyperbole. They are stated in legal constructs of formal charges, descriptions of supporting evidence, and links to the specific laws that have been allegedly violated. You really should have watched the Jan 6 testimonies of high-ranking, connected, GOP officials who compromised their political careers by testifying.
In addition, we can all see (if we stop pretending to not see) what Trump did in all three cases. The evidence is overwhelming with Trump.
If Trump is found guilty of any of the 91 felony counts, will you claim that this is nothing but a rigged judicial system?
One of them is a heartbeat away from the presidency. That is a problem
Yep
You are welcome to your opinion
Only to those whose minds takes them there.
I agree. But you chose to engage in a classless misogynistic attack rather than make an adult, thoughtful critical statement.
No, RDtC, your meme is explicit. You can deny all you want, but that is not going to change what you posted.
"How to Suckseed" to Succeed." Nobody with any sense is going to buy your bullshit denial of what this meme means.
Thanks for your opinion
Yes, about one woman. No one with any sense is going to buy that it is a comment about all women.
Funny how I have seen many off color comments about MTG, Boebert and many others with nary a peep. I know, you don't read or respond to all posts.
You are, per your meme, claiming that Harris' success is due to her ability to give blow jobs.
She is the twice-elected former AG of CA, former US Senator from CA, and current V.P. She graduated from law school with a JD and passed the CA bar.
Harris is clearly more educated and more successful than the vast majority of women (and men). Yet your meme deems her success to be a result of giving blowjobs.
That demeans every woman. The fact that you cannot see that earns the label of misogyny.
NOTE: I am NOT a fan of Harris. I am a fan of honesty.
Thanks for your opinion and thanks for another patch for my jacket of names I am called here.
It does not matter the political affiliation of the women. The exact same criticism applies.
Also, your allegation is demonstrable bullshit. You know damn well that I just criticized the meme about Melania right here in this thread. In fact I criticized that meme and then referred you to the criticism since it applies to your meme as well.
Yet you pretend that I only focus on memes about Ds.
Intellectual dishonesty.
Thanks for your opinion.
I stated that your comment was misogyny. Learn the difference between a criticism of a comment versus calling you, personally, a name. (The victim ploy is pathetic.)
It is the same basic idea of deeming a post a lie versus calling the poster a liar.
Basic stuff. Learn it.
Thanks for the suggestion
Heard that shit the first time around. Country was still standing when Trump left office.
Then Brandon took over; and this country and the world, went to shit.
Other than beating Trump name one Brandon accomplishment?
That is just a short list of Brandon's non-accomplishments. He will have far more before the end of 2024.
No you don't.
Let’s take one of the charges as an example.
Trump is charged with obstructing the return of classified documents. Do you actually believe there is not a volume of evidence corroborating this charge?
Trump as President has a right to declassify documents.
Brandon as a Senator (Senators can't remove classified material from the skiff) and VP (Unless he is the one that made the document and classified it) doesn't.
Which one had possession of classified material they weren't supposed to the longest? Which one had classified material that broke chain of custody repeatedly?
Which one had people looking for classified documents that weren't authorized to view them?
Now remind us which one was charged again?
Two tier justice at it's finest.
Not all the "But Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!" BS in the world can change the facts.
As for obstruction- if the FBI wanted the documents they could have claimed them the first time when they were locked in the storage shed. They didn't. Garland/Wray are to blame for that.
If Trump's defense team needed to be vetted and can only view some of those documents in a secure location tells us he didn't declassify them.
Not even close to true... but Braannndonnn!!!!
I pay no attention to those who still refer to President Biden as Brandon and still use TDS as a problem among liberals.
What the hell are you talking about?
Yes, he does,
Which proves you like all other leftists don't know the law; or think Democrats are exempt from them.
Why don't you look it up and educate yourself.
No, because he did the things he faces felony charges for.
Put up, or shut up and site what law you are talking about. So you show me where a working VP, or Senator, doesn't get 'classified' information delivered to their office on a routine basis if they have a 'need to know'.
Of course he does. But he has to do so while PotUS and he has to engage in the process of declassification. That process produces a record.
Trump did not declassify the documents while PotUS. Private citizen Trump had no right whatsoever to those documents. None. He illegally obstructed their safe return and even tried to hide some of them from officials.
Entirely irrelevant per the law. What matters is intent and action once discovered. Both Biden and Pence followed the law. Trump did not. Trump directly violated the law and that is why Trump is under felony indictment.
That is not against the law nor is it wrong. What nonsense.
That is a pathetic excuse. Trump obstructed the safe return of the documents. His actions are what caused his troubles.
Why do people like you continue to make these pathetic, logically flawed, factually compromised defenses for Trump? They will not persuade anyone who knows or learns the facts.
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Somewhere in the world democracy is making a comeback:
Argentina has implemented: Single day voting, handmade ballot boxes, paper ballots, and Photo ID required.
Isn't all that racist?
Um-hum.....According to Kendi and those who read his shit.
You think Trump is the voice of the average American?
Trump is the exploiter of those who believe that utter nonsense.
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Always a deflection. Do you NOT see that Trump is exploiting those who are gullible enough to believe his lies?
You'll be stuck asking them the same question in Nov.
There is no defense for Trump; the response will continue to be denial, lies, and/or deflection to Biden or the Ds.
Tell me what in my comment was incorrect. I know,I know, the truth that goes against your opinion is just a deflection , especially when you can't disprove anything.
No, arkpdx, I am not going to accept your deflection.
If you cannot make a rebuttal without constantly deflecting then you have nothing of value to offer.
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Bad meme choice as many here don't believe that he existed.
That doesn't sound like the Dalai Lama.
Xi Jinping, not so much.
Bad meme choice as many here don't believe that he existed.