Florida Bans DEI and Sociology Class From State Colleges
Florida's State Board of Education approved a new set of rules on Wednesday that will prohibit taxpayer funds from being “used to promote DEI” in the Florida College System.
The regulations will limit the use of public funding for diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, activities, and policies, as well as remove a sociology class from a list of required courses, and replace it with an American history course at Florida’s 28 state colleges.
The programs implicated by the new rule are defined as anything which “classifies individuals on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation and promotes differential or preferential treatment of individuals on the basis of such classification.”
According to a statement from the Florida Department of Education, the new class “Introductory Survey to 1877” will provide students an “accurate and factual account of the nation’s past, rather than exposing them to radical woke ideologies, which had become commonplace in the now replaced course.”
Education Commission Manny Diaz said Wednesday that while the sociology course would still be available, it would no longer be a general education course , because “within the general education code, courses may not distort significant historical events or include curriculum that teaches identity politics or theories.”
The new regulations are based on SB 266, which was passed in May by the state legislature and signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis , who has been using Florida schools to prosecute a cult
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Next up our fearless leader will be banning all history classes, because, gasp, they might mention the truth.
If Desantis were older, I could see him licking his wounds and becoming more moderate. But he is young and will certainly try and run for president again, so I'm afraid Florida is in for a long bumpy ride in the culture wars.
Not so sure of that, JR. The backlash has been pretty strong and he has lost four court cases in a row on this.
he's still got time to find a new job...
Does anyone smell communism?
The whole philosophy sounds very Russian or Chinese.
No, both Russia and China are big on classifying “individuals on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation and promoting differential or preferential treatment of individuals on the basis of such classification.”
Looking for Boris and Natasha.
I think that they are in Coney Island, NYC.
I was referring to their way of rewriting history in their current images
How has Florida done that?
Whitewashing history - mighty white of 'em
I saw a film clip of Niki Haley pounding her fist and exclaiming that American has never been a racist country and never will be.
I can appreciate the fact that as a child and young adult in South Carolina she was raised to believe in the Lost Cause but at some time in her adult life
she forgot the KKK, the ban on Chinese immigrants, non stop war on the indigenous
people of this continent and several others?
she has to keep the welcome mat out for the maga white trash, just in case...
Though full integration of the U.S. military was not established until the middle of the 20th century, African Americans have served in American conflicts since before the United States was a free nation. Over time, the presence of black soldiers, sailors, regiments, and squadrons would grow until the value and importance of African American servicemen and women could no longer be ignored by leaders bent on resisting change.
Formal African American service in the American military dates from the Revolutionary War. Many freemen and some slaves already served in Northern colonial militias to protect their homes during conflicts with indigenous tribes. The service numbers rose in 1770 in response to the death of Crispus Attucks, an African American believed to be the first casualty at the Boston Massacre. While George Washington was initially reluctant to recruit black soldiers, military necessity later made him relent.
Continued from above:
For Haley and those who are falsely and willingly deluded to think that the U.S. Government did not have racist/discriminatory/segregationist/prejudicial polices in place for the "duration" in its national history!
Additionally, the United States was indeed a racist country because the UNION of states as one ALLOWED racial slavery, racial discrimination, and racial prejudice to fester and flourish within its borders for centuries. The OFFENSE was lifted only after the official "hands off" policy of the U.S. government was removed and the North acted against its South!
Actually, the South acted against the North, first.
Fort Sumpter SC
Agreed. Although, I mean the North (Union) acted against its South (Rebels) by declaring war on it!
Haley would probably think these pics and paintings prove her point, lol.
Actually it does not prove her point. Back then, black people went through a great deal of 'encounters' to get what they 'got' only to have it lifted away ("toggle on/toggle off") for few other reason/s than we were Blacks. That is, Blacks were in the hands of an "angry White 'god,'" who lorded over them and did to them what it could and would.
Blacks had a 'say,' and behaved accordingly, but it was national policy to keep us suppressed by racial classification. . .to not know what to do with us: Love us or fear us. So for the most part our society USED us!
Such is the 'way' of love-hate relationships.
I don't mind sharing the truth of history, because it is the truth. Black people, and the White people who persist in like and love for us. . .or persist in disliking or hate for us. . . , are a curious 'thing' in this life. . .because oddly enough we are ATTRACTED to one another in many, interesting ways. Just saying.
After a "life-time" of living. . .I am yet to figure out what is so hard to love between our two races. . .which ordeal together through everything which happens in this our mutually shared, lived, and beloved country.
confederates fought to keep slaves from gaining their freedom, until they had learned a trade...
BTW, Ron dropped out of the primary today to devote himself to ridding Florida of unwanted elements.
so, the same reasoning behind his presidential run then...
they're hunting Moose and Squirrel
Wow!!! They are actually banning sociology courses? Why? Because it teaches about different societies? Although for my first Bachelor's degree I majored in English Literature, and was editor for a year and a half of the university weekly student newspaper, I was also the president of the Sociology Club so I am really shaking my head at the attempts to force the students to be ignorant. Anyway, maybe at least University of Miami still gives degree courses in basket-weaving, as we Canadian teenagers used to think back in those days.
Of course they aren't. Don't fall for hysterical headlines designed to fool easily manipulated people.
They have progressed to underwater basket-weaving.
No, just a bit of hysterical exaggeration on the author's part.
kind of makes one wonder if anything else in the article is as misleading and false as the headline.
Twenty-three other states are on their way to doing the same thing.
Merit vs racism.
LMAO, white guy [deleted] about racism. You wouldn't know racist [deleted.] In your lifetime how many times were you confronted with racism? Did you sit in the back of the bus, denied service in stores or restaurants, not allowed to attend a school because of your color, had a job denied because you were white. Couldn't buy a home in a neighborhood because of your color. I could go on but that's a good start.
Never mind attacking me. DEI is RACISM!
No one would have needed DEI if conservative culture warriors spent the same energy opposing actual applied racism as they do opposing DEI. It's amusing to watch them lose, over and over and over again though.
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Attacking you, LMAO I asked you a question and it seems that you can't or won't answer, and that is not surprising at all.
I'm sure that you think it is, and that is not surprising at all. I could introduce you to a ''Indian Boarding School'' and then you would find out what racism is in spades. Something that you never experienced in your lifetime but seem to think that your an expert on.
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Their expertise is in white grievance. Conservatives always say "why dwell on the past"? The reason is without understanding the past you cannot correct the future. I am white Irish and it doesnt bother me one bit that there is a history of racism in America, it is something that will be overcome one day, but not by pretending that everything has been fine for the past 500 years on this continent.
We now have a pretty ingrained problem - as many or more "conservatives" believe that whites are the "real" victims of racism as believe people of color are.
I know I should the suffering those poor bastards have gone through because of their color or lack of it.
“Something that you never experienced in your lifetime but seem to think that your an expert on.”
He is an ultra conservative [Deleted] living in MA, and in his myopia, he knows all about oppression…forgetting every rant comes from a position of privilege.
In the real, true, sense , every person is a person of color, because everyone has melanin content in their skin, which determines skin color. Whites just have less of it than the other shades, but they have it.
Back in the days when "afrocentric" was a big thing, some of the black "experts" claimed that more melanin made black people superior. lol. I guess two could play that game.
Black Americans, back in the day, had to be our own "cheer squad." Because the overwhelming sentiment back then was put-downs and negative stereotypes. . . and the jokes about our features (such as our lips, "natural hairstyle," skin color ranging from light to "soot," and our big "bright" eyes contrasting with dark skin). Indeed, it was doing the "AFRO-centric" period of black people's stream of consciousness that the expression: "The blacker the berry; the sweeter the juice" was popularized. Of course, it was a metaphor for acceptance of our appearance by the majority. . . and it worked/helped.
Exactly:
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it'----George Santayana
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it'----George Santayana
Googled that quote, found this:
'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it'----George Santayana From his work; Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense 1905.
It should be noted that William Shirer included the quote as an epigraph in his literary work The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich in 1959. The book was extremely popular when it was published and as such could have lended a hand in the popularity of the quote.
I always thought it was a bit strange to refer to "Whites" as White. Most so-called "White" people have skin that is not White-- its usually slightly Pink, or sometimes slightly light Tan.
People indigenous to the Meditteranean area do not have White colored skin (they are often referred to as as having "Olive colored" skin).
And people referred to as "Blacks" don't have Black coloured skin!
To further complicate things, more and more people are "of mixed race" (due to technolgy advancing-- jet planes and other advances in travel) so more and more of the world's population are of "mixed" ancestry.
Also ignoring Boston and Massachusetts as having the most antisemitic hate crimes
in the USA while labeling others as antisemitic for not falling in line with the hard right
government in Jerusalem.
I’ve always thought it was a bit strange that folks that generally believe in science talk about people as belonging to different races.
Scientifically, anthropologically there is the human race. Categorizing people on the basis of skin tone is racialism and a social construct. It is best suited for people that want to divide us, not unite us.
"DEI is RACISM!"
you got that right
No, that is not correct.
In whose view?
The Tallahassee Lassies and the dance around the flag pole.
I had to take a Sociology class in college. It certainly wasn't full of DEI and"wokeness"
You just didn't recognize it, the right says it's there and we are being indoctrinated.
ok...if you say so. I was probably asleep during that lecture
Same. Not a bit.
Well in the last few years in some colleges things have changed recently. But OTOH some haven't!
You silly goose - you say that because you were obviously brainwashed and indoctrinated by those commie/marxist courses.
lol
Maybe this will be the textbook
No, because Florida under DeSantis doesn't want to require that students learn anything that happened prior to the end of Reconstruction.
Generally, the "Politically Incorrect Guide" series are all Libertarian complaints about history and the evolution of the courts.
Ron just retired from the GOP Primary in order to make further attempts to fix Florida.
Oh, "brother." The tireless runner ran out of pavement and has to return to the dusty trails of home. I am glad, one less "paternal figure" for the nation is alright by me!
one less asshole from florida in the race...
This is good news for future job seekers from other states. When native Floridians can't do the jobs that are needed, companies will have to recruit from out of state. Those Floridian college graduates will learn new things like how to say, "would you like fries with that?"
BINGO
I can hear it now from some of our "friends":
"Who needs sociology in Real Life???"
Same people who think algebra was unimportant
I suppose their next move will be to revamp "women's studies" to a simple keyboarding class.
Goddess forbid. Or force high school girls back into Home Economics classes. I didn't learn one damn thing in Home Ec that I didn't learn from my mom
Remember those movies where the kid does laundry and overflows the machine with soap? Yeah... my son did that once.
And all it took was once. I bet he never did it again
LMAO
It took him years to learn how to pay attention to what he was doing. Now that he's a dad he's looking back at a lot of this. HA!
A friend of mine once used Dawn dish soap in the dishwasher while his wife was out of town, and she had already expressed some doubts about his ability to adult. The bubbles filled the kitchen and went down the stairs to the basement, he said. He got them all cleaned up before she came back home, and thought he was home free, until their daughter spilled the beans.
Yikes!!
somebody thought it would be a good idea to dump too much bubble bath in the hot tub of the suite I booked in boca raton florida years ago...
Hey! That same thing happened on my wedding night!
Hey, bubbles, man! Say man, when I was growing up, if we wanted a jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
it wasn't my wedding night, and all I remember about it was finding the hot tub and then herding a huge bathroom full of suds into the shower stall for what seemed like hours.
A firefighter friend of mine was in a hotel for a convention. If you know any firefighters, you know they like to drink a little bit. He went back to his room drunk, thought a hot bath sounded like a good idea, and fell asleep in the tub with the water still running. He didn't drown, but he did flood the dining room below his room. Water poured out from around the chandeliers onto the tables. Turns out the plumbers hadn't connected the overflow drain in the tub properly. So even though it was technically the plumbers' fault, my friend was invited to leave and not come back.
We walked into the room we booked for the night and there was this huge hot tub. There was also a sign about NO BUBBLE BATH ALLOWED which we missed of course. So we put some bubbles in the tub, fired up the jets and made a huge mess.
Firefighters are cool.
LMAO
Here in northern VA, many are misogynists that have bullied and sexually harassed female firefighters.
A common expression used to be:
A woman's place is in the home.
Then someone came up with a different version:
“A woman’s place is in the house—the House of Representatives.” – Rep. Bella Abzug (born 100 years ago)
Classes in cooking, cleaning and stenography - teach those girls what's REALLY important. s/ (or is it /s?),
sociopaths?
The racists are in shambles! Another state won’t be able to engage in racial discrimination
I'm sure that there are the right-wingers who need to put their Humpty Dumpty selves back together. Thank you for pointing that out, Sean the good old ''look squirrel'' deflection is alive and well.
Here is a novel idea that the vast majority of leftists can't seem to grasp.
How about we hire those based on their merit and ACTUAL expertise...not on their race , gender or made up gender.
And when you find a way to confirm that the person doing the actual hiring is NOT doing it based on race, gender, or religious beliefs. Then we can talk.
Just get republican "F-ing" politics out of the way of people who want/need/love to work for fair wages and increase, instead of standing with obstructionists who intend for people (citizens like yourselves, plural) work for less and unfair wages. Then, all things being equal, merit and expertise will find a PROPER path to flow down. . .not the path republicans construct for it to travel along. We see the BS and call it out.
meh, we'll always have the papists to fuck over in this hemisphere...
If someone wants to be a bigot-- they can always find one group or another to hate!
(And now with the spread of Social Media its so much easier to disseminate bigoted points of view!)
I guess it's a toss-up as to whether kids learn more from their parents, their school classes or the internet.
A Black pastor's take on DEI.
America Works. DEI Doesn’t. - Tablet Magazine
Great, one pastors take on DEI and there are thousands of others that would contradict it.
another token has spoken...
Do you consider any minority who doesn't strictly adhere to the Democratic Party to be tokens?
That makes it sound as if you don't think minorities can think for themselves.
is preaching considered a skilled trade by republicans? oh wait, he's a spiritual maintenance contractor...
If you can't respond to what I actually write, why bother replying with this?????????
It is senseless.
oh, the irony...
If the pastor does not wish to be included in a scheme to diversify, equate, and include then don't - just go about his business and not "make news" trying to tell others DEI is bad for business or life. The mere fact that we are all "gathered together" in this one country as equal/unequal citizens means we are a diverse community whether or not we like it.
This 'argument' that we should all just TRUST that society will care for and act properly towards each other is a slow, tedious, 'drag' that continues to take eons to arrive. As a result it is a lie. There are actually people working to see (using rhetoric and actions) that it never happens. These people throw everything (including the proverbial "kitchen sink" strategically) to make sure they get "mileage" out of it to keep marginalized people-back.
Some conservatives want the discussion to be about a color-blind society, because it will "alleviate" the need to see those "identities" deliberately stuck at the bottom due to unattentiveness by those operating at the top. They can and will (lie and) call it a support for a "merit-based system" even while knowing and understanding that the old system of supposedly merit-based EXCLUDED whole swaths of society. It is a rhetorical foil. As they can and will reinstitute nepotism and other past schemes that leave marginalized people down and out.
We are 'wise' to the deceits at work in the GOP. Thus, the struggle continues.
Finally, DEI, involves girls and women advancement in society too. Restoring conservativism of 'old' means less 'forward' accomplishments for girls and women.
Everyone's entitles to their opinion.
And now with The Internet anyone can first a plethora of quotes-- from numerous people with some credentials or another-- that supports any viewpoint!
(Well, sometimes you can't actually find a "plethora" -- all you can find is a lot of 'em!
)
And now this pastor is known as a white supremacist sympathizer by some.
Who would that be, bugsy, name him/her point them out now we can't have that kind of shit on NT.
I don't know who those people are. I don't even know if they reside here on NT.
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Republicans that don't toe the line are know as: RINOs.
One black pastor can say/write/opine on what he wishes, but when he is doing it from a conservative worldview, he ought to have the balls to admit it—in writing. Liberals do not have to listen to or comprehend his rambling discussion against liberalism. . .just because he is a black man. And for the record, liberals don't listen or comprehend the ramblings over every written or spoke word of liberals either.
DEI is systematic racism, that we hear some complain about.
It is? show us how it is systematic racism, have you ever experienced racism, charger?
It is just as systematic and it is against a specific race therefore it is systematic racism
Second question yes
what race does inclusion harm ?
You seem to be saying that diversity and inclusion harm the white race. That is very slippery ground to stand on.
Just to be clear are you saying that systematic racism is against white people?
What type of racism did you run into?
I said DEI is a part of it
“I said DIE is a part of it.”
One only hopes that that is an unfortunate typo.
Clarification duly noted.
Was clarification truly necessary?
That means that DEI is part of systematic racism against all people, no matter their color?
Yes
Those that aren't actually included.
How could that be?
How could a program named Diversity, Equity and Inclusion not be more inclusive?
Simple: Just because someone (or someones) call a program "inclusive" doesn't necessarily mean that it is!
(It could be-- butit might not be)>
(In my experience this fallacy is especially common in the field of education... but occasionally exists in the business world and government programs)>
Gaslighting minorities and marginalized people can't be permitted! We live what has happened (in the past) and can anticipate what will happen if we don't stand up to this form of gaslighting. Some conservative leadership will deny racism exist-will deny sexism exist, and will deny classism exist. We will not allow this form of delusion-making to go unchecked.
Have you ever been marginalized? Racism, sexism, ageism, and classism have been around since antiquity. To some extent they always will be.
Claiming that it has now climbed to a systemic crisis level and is caused exclusively by White people is simply stupid and absurd. Admit it, you've never had it so good.
If you remember, the majority of Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Republicans were responsible for getting the bill across the finish line and signed into law
That's a positive statement about the existence of racism in this country.
As to how "good" I had it or have it—you have no way of knowing or making comment. And, if you mean, blacks and other marginalized people as a collective. . .when there is "always" racism, sexism, and classism coursing through the country in a political party. . .all bets are 'off.'
Republicans did a good thing in 1964 with a democratic president in office, President Johnson signing the legislation into law-it was a bi-partisan bill that became a significant law for the good of the country. It is how government should work. . . not what we encounter in the GOP/MAGA politics today. I will "always" positively affirm the GOP/MAGA when it does a good thing for the country as a whole—for the right reason/s!
That is at best an extremely misleading comment. First of all, when adjusted for geography, a higher percentage of Democrats than Republicans voted for the Civil Rights bill. Secondly, in 1964 there were moderate Republicans and even a few liberal Republicans. They have gone the way of the dodo bird in the past 50 years.
It would have been extremely unusual if a majority of Dems voted against a Dem President’s proposal.
And why would we "adjust for geography" when it is ALL the United States?
All that sounds like is someone trying to deflect.
Ever heard of the civil war?
Ever heard of the north/south divide?
Both Republicans and Democrats from the "Union" states voted for the Civil Rights Act.
Both Republicans and Democrats from the south voted against the Civil Rights Act.
A higher percentage of Democrats than Republicans in the north voted for it, and a higher percentage of Democrats than Republicans in the south voted for it.
The opposition to the Civil Rights Act was more based on geography than political party.
A fact that several people hereare missing: back in those days there were two types of Democrats in the party.
1. "Regular Democrats"-- a blend of democrats similar to those today.
2. "Dixiecrats"-- Democrats from the South who were opposed to Civil Rights.
But that was "leftover" from the past. In fact the "Dixiecrats" were more conservative than many Republicans.
It would have been extremely unusual if a majority of Dems voted against a Dem President’s proposal.
A fact that several people hereare missing: back in those days there were two types of Democrats in the party.
1. "Regular Democrats"-- a blend of democrats similar to those today.
2. "Dixiecrats"-- Democrats from the South who were opposed to Civil Rights.
But that was "leftover" from the past. In fact the "Dixiecrats" were more conservative than many Republicans.
Other things have changed as well.
In those days, there were many Senators and Governors from the North-East (New England-- at least CT, MA, RI) as NY & NJ who were Republicans. How could that be? Well in those days there were a good number of Republicans in office in those states who were Liberals!
(And IIRC, VT was a more conservative, mainly Republican state).
Why, no, never!
There was a civil war? Wowza!
Really? Did you read somewhere where I have EVER suggested otherwise?
Who are you referring to by the word "we"?
JR is probably thinking of the War between the States.
OMG, there was one of those, too?!?!
Which states?
Yes, but regardless of what we call it, as sedition, it pales in comparison to 6 Jan 21.
Doesn't everything pale in comparison?
Exactly, pale, white people, almost did in 4 hours what 4 years of a Confederate military campaign couldn’t accomplish.
Some Southerners still refer to it as "The War Between The States". (But I"ve known a few who called it "The War For The Suppression of Yankee Insolence".
Heh
Between which states?
The ones that were at war with each other of course!
"the war of northern aggression"
the war preempting the federal plans to eliminate the mormon theocracy developing in the utah territory.
If only the next panel continued the necessary conversation.
To cut the premise off in a condescending manner [Deleted proving] they rely on a cartoon to make a point rather than accepting reality.
Exactly, seems one of our team mates mostly speaks with cut n' paste memes.
meh, that's not nearly as annoying as those that repeat the incorrect use of there, their, and they're or to and too...
I’m sorry that you’re annoyed.
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LOL, good try but not only are we judged by our skin color, which lends itself to judging our mental capabilities by our skin color/race. I could go on but I'm laughing too hard after that bizarre meme.
Of course you can add to it such little racial zingers such as, still on the plantation/reservation, lemmings that cannot think for ourselves and of course lazy.
No, white privilege is evident quite often 'here' and everywhere. It exists. Funny how it's only white people who deny that it exists.
Has white privilege ever landed you a job?
she doesn't live in texass...
please at least ATTEMPT to link your responses to my posts.
about as likely as you giving up deflecting comments...
The headline is misleading at best or just wrong.
The sociology class has not been banned, as the article tells us.
link?
>poof<
Not banned but removed as a general course work class to be replaced by a history class
So my comment was 100% spot on, thanks for confirmation!
Which means kids taking certain programs will have to take an extra class, pay extra money and do extra course work. All because some populist snowflakes got triggered.
A triggered snowflake, I like that but I think it was because he got caught stealing or the other Republican groupies that were having a threesome and he raped his wife's friend (accused). The Florida Republicans are the moral majority telling us peons what is moral and right, while they are doing some really kinky and illegal things.
“while they are doing some really kinky and illegal things.”
You talking about andrew gillum? Lol
Isn't that the scumbag who was having trysts with this woman and his wife and showed up at her door one time without the wife and she said no and he raped her?
One and the same.
Typical [{deleted}]
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Well, now that we've settled that-- here's another related issue.
How do people here feel about Affirmative Action (in college admissions?)
SCOTUS ended AA but it helped many minorities get an education that they may not have received without AA.
For me I think AA was a good thing.
1957 Little Rock, Arkansas. Members of the 101st Airborne escort the Little Rock Nine to school. Racists that made the mistake of screwing with the Nine or the troopers received a hard lesson.
For those of you to young to have been there or part of the Civil Rights movement, should remember their rights were hard fought for and the Little Rock Nine had more guts than 99% of the people.
Exactly, whites in Little Rock and Blacks in Detroit learned the you don’t mess with 101st unless you want to get hurt.