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Nikki Haley loses to "none of these candidates."

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  10 months ago  •  180 comments

Nikki Haley loses to "none of these candidates."
“That was kind of the expected result,” Nevada Republican Party’s National Committeeman Jim DeGraffenreid told ABC News, noting Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo, who recently endorsed Trump, had also suggested he would be casting his vote to “none of these candidates.” “This is the third state to vote, and I haven't seen any strength out of her when ballots are actually cast yet,” DeGraffenried continued.


It is becoming more and more obvious that the Haley campaign is dying. 


In the Republican primary in Nevada,  Nikki Haley  appeared to lose decisively to the option “None of these Candidates” on Tuesday night, a troubling sign for her campaign as she seeks desperately needed electoral momentum.

Trump reacted to Haley’s Nevada loss on his social media platform, saying it’s a “bad night” for his Republican rival.

What to know about Nikki Haley losing to 'none of these candidates' option in Nevada (msn.com)

Haley had no direct competition in the Nevada Primary. Is she really going to suffer further embarrassment by losing in her home state of South Carolina. Sometimes candidates get so caught up in their own rhetoric that they make it impossible to climb down. In case Haley still doesn't know, South Carolina is now a Trump stronghold. Haley's old allies are now part of a long line of SC officials endorsing Trump. The long list includes Sen Tim Scott, Gov Henry McMaster, and Reps. Nancy Mace and Jeff Duncan. Polling shows that Trump might get 68% of the Republican vote in SC. I sincerely hope she spares herself any further embarrassment. This race is over.


In other news:

Joe Biden takes on Snickers: While making an incoherent speech in front of democrat donors in the state of South Carolina he started out by repeating a debunked hoax concerning Trump calling veterans "suckers" and then making a vague complaint about Snickers candy bars. 

“You see that article about the Snickers bar?” Biden asked.

“Well, it’s gonna stop,” he added. 

Nobody understood what he meant and leftwing media won't show it, but evidently Joe has confused Snickers miniature candy bars with the regular bars. He must think they shrunk the bar while charging the same price. It was sad to watch.



House Republicans lose two key votes. Republicans in the House are really struggling with their slim majority as democrats have their voting as a single bloc advantage. Last night the impeachment of Mayorkas and the aid to Israel both got sunk by a few Republican members.


The "bipartisan" border deal seems destined to fail in the US Senate. It may never even make it to the House. And Joe Biden was ready to sign it as long as the aid to Ukraine was included, no matter what it said about the border.


A DC Court of appeals ruled that Trump does not have immunity. What was very telling was the highly unusual order on scheduling in which Trump only has until Monday, Feb. 12 to file with the Supreme Court. The standard rules allow Trump 90 days. Does anyone still think any of this is legitimate?


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Good morning

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Joe Biden says that he will blame Trump for the open border every day until the election.

How stupid does he think the voters are?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    10 months ago
How stupid does he think the voters are?

He couldn't underestimate the stupidity of the people who still support him if he tried.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @1.1    10 months ago

Yup, the mail-in-vote and ballot harvesting will give him a head start.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    10 months ago
Yup, the mail-in-vote and ballot harvesting will give him a head start.

Are you still stuck on that, Florida is as red a state as you can get yet we have massive mail in voting. 

Nevada just switched over as well.

Nevada  is now  a  universal  vote  by  mail  state, so all registered  voters  will receive  a ballot  by  mail  and no request is necessary. 
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @1.1.2    10 months ago
 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
1.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    10 months ago

The trouble for the Dems is that the Republicans have learned how to use the mail in ballot system to their advantage also.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.4    10 months ago

Imagine how many mailed ballots nationally would be deemed invalid/fraudulent if they were actually ID matched or signature verified or citizenship verified.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @1.1.2    10 months ago

Many other red states are majorly mail in voters as well, Vic mails in his vote.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    10 months ago

Really?

Source for that claim, or can you name 5?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    10 months ago

Hardly lives in a red state.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.8    10 months ago

Doesn't he live in Massachusetts??

Admittedly I haven't been there in years but it hasn't been red that I know of At LEAST for 30 years.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.8    10 months ago

Did I say it was?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    10 months ago

which states?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    10 months ago

Implied. Words have meaning and sentence structure is everything.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.12    10 months ago

Show me where I said it was?

Sounds like a shithole though with rising anti-semitism and white supremacism, most likely right in his neighborhood, his own backyard.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.1.14  Krishna  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    10 months ago
Many other red states are majorly mail in voters as well, Vic mails in his vote.

I wonder if Trump mails in his ballot? (If he's still registered in New York, he would be voting in NY as a NY resident)....?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.1.15  Split Personality  replied to  Krishna @1.1.14    10 months ago

No longer, he switched to Florida to avoid taxes in NYC on top of the blow back from the fraud trials.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.1.16  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    10 months ago

Sticking by that misleading headline still?

The report said that 20% of married couples admitted helping each other with some part of the process;

finding their voters registration number or PIN, even the specific way the inner and outer envelopes are sealed

and signed.

Technically a violation if they didn't fill out the additional sections for helping someone complete the 

envelopes but voter fraud, give us all a break, please.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    10 months ago
Joe Biden says that he will blame Trump for the open border every day until the election.

But wait.................there's more.

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2    10 months ago

Hey, Traitor Joe finally went to the border!!!

The swinging gates probably needed some WD-40 by now.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    10 months ago
How stupid does he think the voters are?

based upon the last election, the really stupid voters are still thankfully in the minority...

"None of These Candidates"

NoTC ... notc ... not c, nazi, not c... ... huh. I smell a vast rightwing dogwhistle conspiracy...

63% of registered republicans primary voters voted for not c. meh, maybe not, that sounds about right... /s

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.4  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    10 months ago
How stupid does he think the voters are?

I know.  This bill had most of what Republican voters wanted and almost nothing Democrats wanted with the exception of not allowing Russia from running roughshod over Europe.  I realize that Republicans are pro-Russia now but, I had thought that they felt that the border 'invasion' was an emergency.  It really must be hard on them trying to navigate positions on policy when Trump hasn't even told them what their positions are yet.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.4.1  George  replied to  SteevieGee @1.4    10 months ago

Can you show me the Republican voters who want 5000 Illegals to enter the country a day? 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.4.2  SteevieGee  replied to  George @1.4.1    10 months ago

Donald Trump, and nearly all Congressional Congresspeople who have decided to kill the bill.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.4.3  George  replied to  SteevieGee @1.4.2    10 months ago

That was allowed in that piece of shit bill, no republicans want 5000 illegals a day, only ignorant liberals.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.4.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @1.4    10 months ago
This bill had most of what Republican voters wanted

You mean subservience to the DC Court when it comes to the border?

I don't know any Republican who wants that.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    10 months ago

When it comes to Joe Biden, both he and Trump share something in common in that both think voters are stupid and they are smarter than everybody else.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  Sean Treacy    10 months ago

Haley’s had a rough couple weeks. I know she wants to cement herself as the ‘in case of emergency” replacement for trump, but she’s not doing herself any long term favors lately. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    10 months ago
I know she wants to cement herself as the ‘in case of emergency” replacement for trump

That's the rub: the cost of trying to hang in there.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    10 months ago

If she doesn't win in 2024 she is killing her chances in 2028.

People aren't going to forget she is the Democrats candidate of choice; and they are the ones keeping her campaign barely alive. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    10 months ago

She can always audition for an interim job on The View. They love RINO commentators.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Correction. The View has yet to be cancelled.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    10 months ago

'Bout time LOL

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    10 months ago

When Barbara Walters ran the show it seemed less political & more balanced. Under fat ass it became a hate Trump farce.

It hasn't been cancelled yet.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    10 months ago

You got punked! The View Not Cancelled. Viewership is HUGE!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.2    10 months ago

Did I?

Maybe you played it just right for me?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    10 months ago

No Vic, you got punked. I will await your sincere apology...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.4    10 months ago

I stand by Post # 3.

You need to apologize for thinking some people don't have rights.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    10 months ago

FALSE!

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.2    10 months ago

Leftists need their shrill screeching TDS feminists to tell them how to think.

They might forget to breath w/o them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.2    10 months ago

Wait about an hour next time.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.3  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.1    10 months ago

No, but it appears that misinformation is all the MAGA have!

THE VIEW IS  NOT CANCELLED! 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.2    10 months ago

So, you have scooped every news organization and the entire internet? No Vic! Hell, that meme is now seven months old...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.2.4    10 months ago

We had a member who did that. I haven't seen him in weeks.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.2.3    10 months ago

Thank God for that.  They are constantly giving Gutfeld material for his show

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.2.3    10 months ago

Take several deep breaths.

Read post 3 very, very, very, carefully.

Bold large font caps doesn't get your point across any better. It just makes it seem like you are hyperventilating on the keyboard. 

You don't have to worry- the View is still around to tell you what to think.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.8  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.7    10 months ago

No, everyone here saw the meme saying otherwise before Vic removed it, except for maybe you. My comment did not spring from nothing. Can nobody on the right be honest anymore?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2.9  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.2.8    10 months ago

Try again.

You have been hyperventilating and spamming the entire time.

When it comes to being wrong- you are the last one to ever admit they are.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    10 months ago

We can dream.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4  Just Jim NC TttH    10 months ago

I don't agree with this.................yet.

It is becoming more and more obvious that the Haley campaign is dying.

I read elsewhere that those votes were disgruntled people basically protesting the fact that Trump wasn't on the ballot.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4    10 months ago

Evidently, they number 2-1 over those who support Haley.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    10 months ago

Good point....

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5  devangelical    10 months ago
A DC Court of appeals ruled that Trump does not have immunity. What was very telling was the highly unusual order on scheduling in which Trump only has until Monday, Feb. 12 to file with the Supreme Court.

it shouldn't take that long to prepare a defense of an unconstitutional and ridiculous legal theory...

7 years of stalling the legal process should be added to any jail term he receives. gee, I sure hope trump has the stamina to attend all of his campaign events along with all of those pending court appearances he's looking at. it could be a bit more stressful than watching TV, tweeting insane bullshit, grifting gullible morons, cheating at golf, and eating junk food all day long. his brain is misfiring and his verbal transmission is already noticeably slipping at the mic on the podium.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5    10 months ago
it shouldn't take that long to prepare a defense of an unconstitutional and ridiculous legal theory...

Trump should have the same rights as anyone else.  Obviously, the DC appeals court is in on the get Trump convicted before the election scheme.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    10 months ago
Trump should have the same rights as anyone else.

Does everyone have unconditional immunity from crimes?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.1    10 months ago

Ask Hunter.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.3  George  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.1    10 months ago

So the president doesn't have immunity? what if the president orders the execution of an American? should he be charged?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.1    10 months ago

Why doesn't Trump get the customary 90 days to appeal the decision to the Supreme Court?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    10 months ago

it shouldn't take very long to prepare for a meritless and frivolous defense. SCOTUS will kick it back to the DC circuit decision as opposed to having to publicly throw larry thomas under the recusal bus, er, RV...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.1.5    10 months ago
it shouldn't take very long to prepare for a meritless and frivolous defense.

But the norm is 90 days.

Have you ever seen a lawyer prepare to go before the Supreme Court?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.7  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    10 months ago

Trump asked the court to "Fast Track It" thinking he'd win...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5.1.7    10 months ago

I want to know why he doesn't get 90 days like everyone else?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5.1.7    10 months ago

I believe that was the immunity case. I could be wrong. Do you have a link?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.10  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.8    10 months ago
I want to know why he doesn't get 90 days like everyone else?

I think the bipartisan court is sending a message to the defense with regards to wasting the court's time with the stall tactic of defending a baseless unconstitutional legal theory. whatever happens, happens, but as an aside it'll still be a lot of fun watching the SCOTUS rwnj's paint themselves into a corner tomorrow morning on trump's long and torturous journey towards a room at club fed.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.1.10    10 months ago

I think the three member DC court has proven its bias by inserting an order denying Trump his 90 days. 

The rational mind easily sees they want to get Trump convicted before the election.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.12  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.11    10 months ago

No, rational minds want Trump prosecuted before November...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5.1.12    10 months ago

That has to be the joke of the day!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.9    10 months ago

I'll take that as a no............

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.15  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.11    10 months ago
I think the three member DC court has proven its bias by inserting an order denying Trump his 90 days.

maybe "citizen trump" can appeal that decision too...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.2    10 months ago
Ask Hunter.

The one that's been indicted, and currently going through the same process as anyone else?  That hunter?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.17  Ozzwald  replied to  George @5.1.3    10 months ago
So the president doesn't have immunity?

Unconditional immunity?  NOPE.

what if the president orders the execution of an American?

Executions like what happens in Texas all the time?  Since 1819, 1,340 people have been executed in Texas.

should he be charged?

If those actions are not a part of his duties, YES.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.17    10 months ago
what if the president orders the execution of an American?

Like Obama did with a drone strike..........and in another country no less. Where is the trial for that one?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
5.1.19  Jasper2529  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.2    10 months ago

Ouch! (LOL!!)

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.1.15    10 months ago

That pisses the former 'president' off most in this decision  CITIZEN TRUMP

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.18    10 months ago

See dev's liberal redneck post for the answer.

LOL!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.22  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.18    10 months ago
Like Obama did with a drone strike

Wow, way to take something and twist it completely out of the shape it was originally. 

Prove that Obama ordered a drone strike to specifically kill that 1 single American.  I'll wait.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.22    10 months ago
President Barack Obama has to personally approve the killing of a U.S. citizen targeted for a lethal drone strike outside combat areas, according to a policy Obama adopted in 2013. The president also is called upon to approve drone strikes against permanent residents of the U.S. and when "there is a lack of consensus" among agency chiefs about whom to target, but in other cases he is simply "apprised" of the targeting decision, the   newly-disclosed document   shows.

On September 30, 2011, a hunting party of US drones found its quarry while flying over the desert in Yemen. They fired Hellfire missiles at the vehicle carrying Anwar al-Awlaki, a New Mexico–born, firebrand cleric, whom the Barack Obama administration accused of being an operational leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. The killing of al-Awlaki was the result of a multiyear operation involving the CIA, Joint Special Operations Command, and allied foreign intelligence services. That same morning,  President Obama heralded the strike  as a counterterrorism success. 

For all the effort that the Obama administration has gone to in asserting that its drones only kill the people that the administration intends to kill, Holder wrote in a letter today to Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) that Samir Khan, 16-year-old Abdulrahman Awlaki and Jude Kenan Mohammad were “not specifically targeted by the United States.” The fourth American to die in a drone strike since 2009 was Abdulrahman’s father Anwar Awlaki, a radical propagandist  whom the U.S. killed in Yemen in 2011 .

Targeted!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.24  George  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.17    10 months ago
Unconditional immunity?  NOPE.
what if the president orders the execution of an American?

Executions like what happens in Texas all the time?  Since 1819, 1,340 people have been executed in Texas.

This is an absolute deflection, these executions weren't ordered by a president or any elected official, these were handed down by a jury after a defendant got a trial that afforded him due process with appeals, the death sentence was handed down by a jury of his peers.

should he be charged?

If those actions are not a part of his duties, YES.

  That's convenient exactly who decides what his duties are? can a president order the execution of an American without a jury? no due process? who isn't an immediate threat? ie self defense?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.25  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.23    10 months ago

What about involuntary manslaughter? Didn't he also kill an American teenager by "mistake" with one of his drone strikes? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.23    10 months ago

Nope.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.27  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.26    10 months ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @5.1.25    10 months ago

Yep. Part of the four I linked to. Abdulrahman Awlaki who was Anwar Awlaki's son

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.29  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.28    10 months ago

I’m willing to bet that immunity is fungible based on party.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1.30  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.16    10 months ago

Do you even know how many years Hunter was investigated?

Six years into a federal probe of his personal and professional life, President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, is facing  additional legal exposure .

That is right, six fucking years of slow walking an investigation. Of allowing the most serious of charges statute of limitations to run out. That lead to a sweetheart plea deal that would let Hunter walk in exchange for "staying clean". A plea deal no one else not named Biden, Obama, or Clinton could ever hope to get. The only reason the plea deal fell through was a Trump appointed judge. She rightly pointed out that the plea deal granted Hunter immunity from all future charges. Weiss- being caught balked and said no- Hunter's lawyers said yes.

In the spring of 2023, two brave IRS whistleblowers stepped forward to notify Congress of how the Justice Department had impeded, delayed, and obstructed the criminal investigation of the President's son, Hunter Biden. The whistleblowers, who came forward only after IRS leadership failed to address their concerns, noted several deviations by Justice Department officials "from the normal process that provided preferential treatment, in this case to Hunter Biden." The whistleblowers exposed how the Justice Department allowed the statute of limitations on certain charges against Hunter Biden to lapse, prohibited line investigators from referring to or asking about President Biden during witness interviews, withheld evidence from line investigators, excluded the investigative team from meetings with defense counsel, and tipped off defense counsel about pending search warrants.

The outcome leaves in jeopardy the yearslong investigation into Hunter Biden’s business dealings. He had been charged with two misdemeanor tax crimes of failure to pay more than $100,000 in taxes from over $1.5 million in income in both 2017 and 2018, and he made an agreement with prosecutors, who were planning to recommend two years of probation.

Last month, Biden was charged with possession of a firearm by a person who is a known drug user, a felony. He had a Colt Cobra .38 Special for 11 days in October 2018. He agreed to enter into a diversion agreement, which means that he would not technically plead guilty to the crime. As long as he adhered to the terms of his agreement, the case would be wiped from his record. If not, the deal would be withdrawn. The charge carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.

U.S. District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika, who was appointed by President Donald Trump, said she was concerned about the language in the diversion agreement, which contained details about not prosecuting Biden for tax crimes in the future. She suggested the lawyers get back together and discuss it.

“I think having you guys talk more makes sense,” she said to the attorneys.

Weiss was appointed Special Council by Garland- in violation of the law. Weiss isn't eligible to be special counsel since he works for the Federal Government- namely the DOJ.

600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.

( a ) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

( b ) The Attorney General shall consult with the Assistant Attorney General for Administration to ensure an appropriate method of appointment, and to ensure that a Special Counsel undergoes an appropriate background investigation and a detailed review of ethics and conflicts of interest issues. A Special Counsel shall be appointed as a “confidential employee” as defined in 5 U.S.C. 7511(b)(2)(C) .

Weiss worked   with   Joe Biden ’s eldest   son   to hash out prosecution strategies. “We will continue to aggressively pursue all types of fraud in order to protect the public,” Weiss said in his part of a statement with Beau Biden on the fraud case.

Today, that little-known history highlights the deep challenges Weiss faces as he   pursues   a newly recharged investigation into Beau’s brother, Hunter Biden, in a small state long politically dominated by their father.
Although Democrats point to Weiss’s appointment by President Donald Trump  as evidence of his independence, the full story of his career is more nuanced, as he spent two years as acting U.S. attorney under President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden and then remained as a top deputy for the remainder of their term.
Weiss has gone back into hiding- supposedly investigating Hunter and now Brandon's criminal acts. Expect to see him in about six more years. Unless Trump gets elected and kicks him out and has a new AG appoint a real special counsel.
Let us know when Hunter is actually on trial? It is only going on 7 damn years.
And the left accuse Trump of stalling.
Funny how Garland/DOJ/FBI can bring all of these charges in a few short months against Trump; Jan 6th rioters; and parents protesting what their kids are taught in school (and being upset by their daughters being raped in bathrooms by boys claiming to be girls)- but can't seem to get anything meaningful done when it comes to Hunter and Brandon.

 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.30    10 months ago

 f allowing the most serious of charges statute of limitations to run out

The Biden IRS/DOJ literally gifted him hundreds of thousands of dollars by doing that. It's really incredible.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.32  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.1.15    10 months ago

Actually, there is a way for his lawyers to do just that.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.33  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.23    10 months ago

Targeted!

Good job of proving my point.  thank you.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.34  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.30    10 months ago
Do you even know how many years Hunter was investigated?

A fraction of how many years that Trump has been under investigation for one crime or another?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.35  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.33    10 months ago

Don't think so pal. American downed with a drone strike. Nice try though.  jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif     jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.36  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.35    10 months ago
American downed with a drone strike.

But not American targeted with drone strike.  Again, thank you for confirming my point.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.37  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.36    10 months ago

Bullshit. You may want to read up on Anwar Awlaki

Anwar Nasser Abdulla al-Awlaki  ( Arabic أنور العولقي romanized Anwar al-'Awlaqī ; April 21 or 22, 1971 – September 30, 2011) was an American Islamic scholar and lecturer who was killed in  2011 in Yemen  by a U.S. government  drone strike  ordered by President  Barack Obama

Again, thank you for admitting you don't know jack shit. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.38  George  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.36    10 months ago

Obama murdered an American without due process, there is no denying that fact.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.1.15    10 months ago

"citizen trump"

jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.40  Ozzwald  replied to  George @5.1.38    10 months ago
Obama murdered an American without due process, there is no denying that fact.

I assume you will be going directly to the police or FBI to press charges?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.41  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.40    10 months ago

looks like they've given up and conceded the "obama is a secret muslim" as myth...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.42  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @5.1.41    10 months ago

looks like they've given up and conceded the "obama is a secret muslim" as myth...

Possibly, but based on the last few Trump rallies, he thinks that he is either running against Obama or Hillary.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.43  George  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.40    10 months ago

I assume your deflection is an admission that you were wrong and Obama did target American citizens for execution without due process..

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.1.44  Ozzwald  replied to  George @5.1.43    10 months ago
I assume your deflection is an admission that you were wrong and Obama did target American citizens for execution without due process..

As usual, you assume wrong.  He targeted terrorists which happened to have Americans in their group.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.45  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.44    10 months ago

Read up on it again FFS. He WAS considered the terrorist even though American citizen, and WAS the fucking target. You lost the argument. Just stop.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.46  George  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1.44    10 months ago

Again you are wrong, the American citizen was his target, when you resort to lying in your comment you have failed.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.47  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.45    10 months ago

Since TiG calls out people who vote up comments one has to wonder why he voted up an obvious lie. I guess TiG supports comments that aren't true.

Of the 2011 deaths, Rogers spokesman Overton said, " The Obama White House claims that only Anwar al-Awlaki was specifically targeted. However, there is no way to verify that, since the deliberations are secret. Either they were targeted or they were collateral damage of a kill policy. In either case, the program is run by Obama, who personally makes the final decision to kill a target. If the three were not specifically targeted, their deaths remain the responsibility of Obama." PolitiFact | Four U.S. citizens killed in Obama drone strikes, but 3 were not intended targets

Here it is in black and white. The Obama administration specifically targeted an American citizen for execution without due process.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.48  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    10 months ago

"I didn't do anything wrong"

That didn't take 90 days

lol

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.49  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.11    10 months ago

the former 'president' saying 'march peacefully and patriotically' to the capitol was said once hours before the turd said to fight like hell - so that those 4 words will not save his big fat traitorous ass

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.2  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @5    10 months ago

Seven years?

So you are going to charge him from the start of his presidency? 

Democrat/leftist math at it's finest there. 

Democrats don't believe in due process; laws; or the Constitution.

They prove it every day.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @5.2    10 months ago
Democrats don't believe in due process; laws; or the Constitution.

oh, is that what's playing out in trump's desperate legal attempts to evade prosecution by claiming total immunity?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.2.1    10 months ago

He should have 90 days to appeal it to the Supreme Court.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @5.2.1    10 months ago

Trump is entitled to due process whether the left likes it or not.

Either the laws apply to everyone or no one. Democrats are bringing about the day when it will be no one. They will also be screaming the loudest when that day comes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.2    10 months ago

here's a thought - screw trump.  he is a coward with with consciousness of guilt.  if he thought he was innocent he wouldnt be going through all these delaying tactics. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @5.2.3    10 months ago
Either the laws apply to everyone or no one

are we still talking about trump's immunity claim?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.2.6  afrayedknot  replied to  Ronin2 @5.2    10 months ago

“Democrats don't believe in due process; laws; or the Constitution.”

Painting with a very broad brush, this.

The bristles clogged with partisan ideology. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    10 months ago
screw trump

Keep your sick TDS fantasies to yourself.

Trump is entitled to the same rights as every other US citizen. 

Thank you for proving that Democrats/leftists don't give a shit about laws or the US Constitution.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.2.8  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @5.2.5    10 months ago

Ask fucking Brandon- that is if the Weiss and Garland ever get off their asses and do their damn jobs.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    10 months ago

Here is a better thought - take down the left in this country. Chase them out of every institution that they have taken control of starting with the university.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5    10 months ago

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

F ederal investigators asked financial institutions to use search terms such as “TRUMP” and “MAGA” when combing over customer data in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) revealed Wednesday. 

The request came from the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen), according to documents obtained by the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. 

The panel, headed by Jordan, demanded testimony from the agency’s former Strategic Operations Division director Noah Bishoff as part of a probe into what the Ohio Republican called an “alarming” case of “pervasive financial surveillance” seemingly conducted “on the basis of protected political” speech.

Feds asked banks to search customer data for ‘Trump,’ ‘MAGA’ references after Capitol riot: Rep. Jim Jordan (msn.com)

Janet Yellen promised to look into it.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    10 months ago
search terms such as “TRUMP” and “MAGA” when combing over customer data

hopefully they share and compare the data with the FBI and DHS lists of domestic terrorists...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @6.1    10 months ago

Yelen says Ya we got your letter, and we'll take a look at it. The IRS pulled the same type of shit under Obama.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    10 months ago

the right wing journey towards a fascist theocracy nirvana is so long and increasingly difficult... /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @6.1.2    10 months ago

Biden has been in power for 3 years and it is he who has presided over a woke dictatorship.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @6.1.2    10 months ago

Democrats/leftists are trying to turn the US into a woke, much dumber, more racially divided version of China.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    10 months ago
presided over a woke dictatorship

... that will still have an election in november.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @6.1.5    10 months ago

One that he is trying to have his main political opponent thrown off the ballot; or thrown into prison before.

Sure acting like a dictator.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.6    10 months ago
Sure acting like a dictator.

if that was the case we wouldn't be reading the pathetic defense of a dictator wannabe that claimed he did nothing wrong out of one side of his mouth while claiming total immunity for his actions out of the other side of it.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.8  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @6.1.7    10 months ago

Trump doesn't have Wray, Garland, IRS, and Weiss covering for his sorry ass.

Brandon first claimed he never had any knowledge of Hunter's business dealings. Then it was never had anything directly to do with them. Now it is never received any benefits from. Pay for play is still illegal even if only your family members benefit it; but as Hunter's laptop and bank transactions prove- Brandon received payments.

Leftists completely gloss over Brandon had classified documents as well- both from his time as VP and Senator- in unsecure locations, and no established chain of custody. Yet it is only Trump being prosecuted. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.8    10 months ago

Joe Biden is a liar.

His family profited from selling Traitor Joe.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.10  Ronin2  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.9    10 months ago

Agreed.

Brandon also received kickbacks from his family- so he profited as well.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.8    10 months ago
Trump doesn't have Wray, Garland, IRS, and Weiss covering for his sorry ass

I thought he only hired the best people...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.10    10 months ago
Brandon also received kickbacks from his family

... 7 years and comer still can't produce any evidence of that alleged crime.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @6.1.12    10 months ago
7 years and comer still can't produce any evidence of that alleged crime.

Sure, if one ignores bank records, testimony, emails, phone calls, etc.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.13    10 months ago

here's a rundown of the past and ongoing house republican investigations and impeachments since 2022...

  • fail
  • fail
  • fail
  • fail
  • fail
  • fail
  • fail
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @6.1.14    10 months ago

ignoring things won't make it all go away.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.15    10 months ago

I've been saying that since 1/6/21...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1    10 months ago

They're still arresting traitors from 1/6 with all the cellphones, etc. that were in the Capitol that day, they just arrested another traitor who was security for the administration.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1    10 months ago

That's how they found a lot of the traitorous scum on 1/6.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.19  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @6.1.11    10 months ago

And the Brandon administration has unlimited US tax payer funding (increasing the debt however much is needed)- and the power of at least 3 very large parts of federal government working for him against Trump. Then the state and local charges where the federal government has been involved sharing evidence (illegally) as well.

Not to mention 3 TDS driven leftist judges in districts where the jury pool will be TDS driven mighty mental midgets.

Also, it is really damn easy when laws and the Constitution don't matter. Smith threw attorney/client privilege out the window when he forced Trump's lawyers to testify.

I am sure you will have no problem if Trump wins and turns the government resources against Clinton, Obama, Brandon, Wray, Garland, Weiss, Smith, and anyone else dumb enough to get in his cross hairs.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.20  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @6.1.12    10 months ago

They haven't been investigating Brandon for seven damn years.

I know public education sucks- but come on!

Weiss slow walking his investigation of Hunter; and blocking any and all efforts to tie in Brandon doesn't count as an investigation.

Unlike Democrats have been doing to Trump.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @6.1.5    10 months ago

An election with mass mail-in-balloting, ballot harvesting and the prosecuting of Biden's opponents.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
7  Nerm_L    10 months ago

So, the unbiased liberal press is now the go to source for straight up, honest reporting on Republicans.  Yeah, right.

Let's just point out that Nevada Republicans are pissed because state Democrats passed a law that forces them use a state-sponsored primary.  Republicans are not even awarding delegates from the primary results.  That's why Trump didn't waste his time with the primary.

But, hey, any friggin' liberal lie reported by the unbiased press is gospel truth if it aligns with what you want to believe.

(BTW, Nikki Haley may be Republicans only option when Trump is convicted and jailed in July, after the deadwood grab-ass fest in Milwaukee.  Beer and blue pills; it's gonna be a heckuva party.)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @7    10 months ago

Right on all counts, other than the idea that Haley will still be on the ballot in July.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
7.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    10 months ago
Right on all counts, other than the idea that Haley will still be on the ballot in July.

If Haley is smart, she'll stay on the ballot.  The odds are quite high that the wheels will fall off Trump's wagon after the Republican convention in July. 

IMO Democrats are waiting until they think Republicans have no options.  Democrats are hoping that Biden can run unopposed.  Which seems to be the only way Biden can win reelection.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Nerm_L @7.1.1    10 months ago

Brandon will lose to any quasi conservative third party candidate that can manage to get on the ballot in all states.

It would be the best thing to ever happen to the Establishment parties. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.1.3  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1.2    10 months ago

When Pigs Fly!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @7.1.1    10 months ago

I hope she does, but do not expect that she will.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
7.1.5  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.4    10 months ago
I hope she does, but do not expect that she will.

Dunno.  Nikki Haley ain't the average stupid Republican.  You know, Haley was a critic of Trump during the 2016 election.  Being named Ambassador to the UN was kind of a surprise.  And Haley leaving the post at the end of 2018 was an even bigger surprise.

IMO it's not wise to presume anything about Nikki Haley.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @7.1.5    10 months ago

This is really not so much about Haley but about how presidential campaigns typically go.

The financial supporters dry up and the candidate usually suspends their campaign soon after.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
8  charger 383    10 months ago

 “none of these candidates.” should be on all elections and if that wins the office must stay vacant for the term

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
8.1  Kavika   replied to  charger 383 @8    10 months ago

It is in Nevada.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @8    10 months ago

Putin Loves That Idea! jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg ...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @8.2    10 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @8.2    10 months ago

What is it with the left and Putin?

Don't remember Obama's quip to Romney "The 80's called and wants its foreign policy back"?

Leftists have come unglued since 2016 and their queen bitch lost.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @8.2.2    10 months ago

They fell in love with the Queen's famous RESET BUTTON!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
8.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ronin2 @8.2.2    10 months ago

I remember it well.

"You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916," Obama said. "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed.
"We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go under water, nuclear submarines," he said.
He failed to address the issue and inserted a condescending diversion.
 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.2.4    10 months ago

That was Obama- and the left loved him for it.

He is also the one that stated not one single vote was changed or altered in the 2016 election by Russia.

It doesn't matter how many investigations that were done that prove he was- leftists have had a hard on for Russia ever since.

It is a shitty way to conduct foreign policy- and is why we are wasting billions in Ukraine propping up a corrupt fascist government.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

The Guardian Angels made a citizen’s arrest Tuesday live on Fox News while leader Curtis Sliwa blasted Democratic New York City Mayor Eric Adams for “destroying” the city.

Sliwa and his team appeared on “Hannity” to discuss the ongoing migrant crisis affecting local residents. During Sliwa’s interview with Fox host Sean Hannity, Guardian Angels members could be seen walking off camera towards what appeared to be a man in a hooded jacket. As the Guardian Angels circled around him, the camera caught the team pinning the guy to the ground.

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Guardian Angels Perform Citizen’s Arrest Live On Air As Curtis Sliwa Blasts Eric Adams For ‘Destroying’ NYC | The Daily Caller

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
10  Mark in Wyoming     10 months ago

Here is a question.

Would those in the gop rather  Haley stay in through the convention in the event Trump becomes legally/constitutionally ineligible to hold office through the courts?

OR

Have a brokered convention to choose a different candidate where party officials decide who will be the candidate if the same situation happens to Trump?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1  TᵢG  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @10    10 months ago

Better for the GOP to have Haley as an established candidate IMO.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @10.1    10 months ago

a floor fight at the RNC convention would be comedy gold, but I'm hoping republicans go all in on trump and get stuck having to spin the perp walk optics by their then criminally defective candidate between that time and the election.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
10.1.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  TᵢG @10.1    10 months ago

That would be my thinking as well.

But so far no one that has stated they would be voting gop has taken the time to answer either, so far the only answers have come from non gop voters.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @10.1.1    10 months ago

Given the irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic behavior of the current GOP, and considering human nature, the best way for the GOP now to start recovering is to hit rock bottom.   Not having a nominee because the one you wanted is a convicted felon might be enough to wake the party up to its self-destructive ways.

However, I would prefer the party nominate Haley.   I do not expect that; I expect the GOP to continue to make horrendously bad decisions.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.4  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.3    10 months ago
I expect the GOP to continue to make horrendously bad decisions.

they finally figured out what they excel at and now they do it the best...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @10.1.4    10 months ago

I do not recognize the GOP of today.   Imagine what Reagan would say if he could see the mess his party has devolved into.   Yet we see people clinging to the GOP due to the brand regardless of what it actually stands for.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.5    10 months ago

Probably say something similar if Kennedy were to see the Democratic Party today.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.6    10 months ago

The reason why the independent political faction continues to grow.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.7    10 months ago

Not enough independents yet.

People are more than willing to vote for someone they know is bad for the country.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.8    10 months ago

Ultimately one must face reality.   When one of two individuals will be PotUS, both are bad choices, but one is an order of magnitude worse, the decision is easy — ensure the order of magnitude worse individual does not win.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.9    10 months ago

Yeah, I just can't get to the point of voting for someone I know is not fit for the job.

I realize others can attempt to justify voting for one of them but that isn't who I am.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.10    10 months ago

Others will make the choice.   One quite substantial justification is that Trump is an order of magnitude worse than Biden.

If one is dying of thirst and the choice was their own urine or feces contaminated water, they would make a choice and I bet they would choose that which is NOT an order of magnitude worse.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.11    10 months ago

Your opinion has been clear.

others will make their choice, didn't know it was in dispute.

I am telling you the whole magnitude thingy is YOUR opinion.

Absolutely no way will or can I justify voting for a loser when I SEE them, . no matter how others may be able to justify it to themselves.

I see no point in voting for failure personally.

I don't think its good for the country.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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10.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.12    10 months ago
I am telling you the whole magnitude thingy is YOUR opinion.

What is it with you and others telling people who have opined that their comment is their opinion?

Of course it is.   Nobody needs you to state the obvious.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.11    10 months ago

A question for you.

do you believe that Trump or Biden is good for the country?

no what ifs or saying it depends. just a straight out yes or no answer is all I am looking for here .

answer based on what you have observed.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.13    10 months ago

You have repeated the same stuff over and over, and suddenly that somehow isn't repeating the obvious?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.9    10 months ago
Ultimately one must face reality.

I have.

 the stark reality is both Trump and Biden suck.

The reality is voting for one of them won't be helpful to the country.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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10.1.17  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.14    10 months ago
... do you believe that Trump or Biden is good for the country?

jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif   No, Texan;  obviously no.

Given I have repeatedly stated that both are bad, your question is (yet again) of the blatantly obvious.   

If someone states that Trump and Biden are both bad for the nation then by definition they hold that neither is good for the nation.

The most recent example:

TiG @10.1.9 When one of two individuals will be PotUS, both are bad choices , but one is an order of magnitude worse, the decision is easy — ensure the order of magnitude worse individual does not win.

Note the "both are bad choices" part.    Did you need me to use the language: "choices are bad for the nation"?

And my example:

If one is dying of thirst and the choice was their own urine or feces contaminated water, they would make a choice and I bet they would choose that which is NOT an order of magnitude worse.

I should not need to also state that neither drinking one's own urine nor feces contaminated water is a good thing.   The obvious good thing is to drink fresh water.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.17    10 months ago
, Texan;  obviously no

If it was obvious I wouldn't have had to ask.

I don't care about how you justify your vote, and thought that was abundantly clear when I stated a yes or no was all that was necessary to answer my question.

You vote however you want, just like me!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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10.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.18    10 months ago
If it was obvious I wouldn't have had to ask.

Indeed.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.19    10 months ago

Yes, exactly!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.5    10 months ago

What makes Reagan so fantastic???????????

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.21    10 months ago

He was the icon of the GOP.    His GOP was substantially better than the mess we see today.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.22    10 months ago

"The most damaging myth in American Politics is that the Reagan era was good for the country by birthing the era of trickle-down economics, exotic tax havens, budget slashing, and union busting.

Reagan set the stage for the tragic decline of America's once proud middle class."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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10.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @10    10 months ago
te where party officials decide who will be the candidate if the same situation happens to Trump?

It's a brokered convention either way. Trump will  have a majority of the delegates and they would have no tie to Haley, whether she's still officially in the race or not. Granted, she would be a very likely choice, but whoever the  Trump delegates and Party officials decide upon will be the nominee. It doesn't appear Haley is going to have many delegates at all, no  matter how long she stays in the race. 

 
 

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