East Palestine Witnesses Another Train Wreck
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EAST PALESTINE, OH — After a little more than one year after the tragic train derailment and chemical explosion in East Palestine Ohio, the town's residents were forced to witness yet another catastrophic train wreck. Authorities are currently on the scene assessing the damage.
"It's great to be here in North Philistine," said Biden to a small crowd of gathered fake supporters. "I'm sorry for your loss. I understand how it feels. I lost my son in a train derailment. Not a joke."
"I haven't seen a disaster like this since the last disaster," said East Palestine's Mayor. "I thought when a train spilled toxic chemicals into our water and air and threw a fiery plume of smoke into the sky, I had seen the worst thing to ever happen here. Sadly, I was wrong."
At publishing time, the President had passed around a collection plate to the locals to raise money for Ukraine.
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I would say that the most transparent thing about this President's administration and his campaign are their inadequacies.
Really? No specifics? Let me give you a few of many Biden accomplishments. And please, spare us the dismissive pronouncements. If you can't offer specific rebuttals.
1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems.
2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan.
3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole, and provided funds for youth mental health.
4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.
5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.
6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year. This was struck down but the Supreme Court, however, the administration has announced a new plan to forgive billions in loans that were qualified under special programs but not done due to DOE mismanagement in previous years. Read the article above)
7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan.
8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act.
9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits.
10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket.
11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.
12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement.
13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland.
14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden.
15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.
16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions.
17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue.
18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history.
19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan.
20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins.
21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation.
22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027.
23. Halted all federal executions after the previous administration reinstated them after a 17-year freeze
How about issues that the voters really care about Mac? And how many of these "accomplishments" are the result of what Biden and the Democrats did or did not do? And how were them were beneficial to the majority of Americans?
I still cannot get past Biden's Afghanistan train wreck of a evacuation that got 13 American service members killed and thousands of American and Afghans left behind when the US pulled out with it's tail between it's legs all courtesy of Joe Biden.
Now you have done it, some idiot is going to try to blame Trump now in-spite of the fact that Biden didn’t follow any of the other trump policies like stay in Mexico.
Mmmm. Immigration, the economy and fitness for office.
Actually, he already has.
Do you still hate Nixon & Ford for the Fall of Saigon?
How many POWs, Vietnamese friendlies and Hmong troops did we leave behind there.
Be fair,
there was a treaty being honored ( for a change ). Not one that Biden signed either.
Can you show where the Senate approved this treaty? Because there isn’t one without Senate approval, and Trumps tentative agreement was to leave May 1, so if dickhead was just honoring the “treaty” why did the stupid bastard give the Taliban 4 more months to prepare and not leave until August 31? This is 100% Biden’s fuck-up.
Sound's like Trump went around the Senate, no surprise there, huh?
2022 was the first year since 2000 with no deaths due to hostile action.
Sadly, there were 13 in 2021.
Nor do I remember any melt downs with the 65 that were killed during the last Administration.
So there goes Biden’s only defense for his fucked up withdrawal.
The fucked up withdrawal retrieved every worthy airframe and much more material and personnel that would have been left behind if the May date stood.
But I understand, critics have to criticize and denigrate.
You don’t know that, without the 4 months Biden gave them to mobilize we may have had a seem less withdrawal on May 1st, the only thing we know with 100% certainty is Biden completely fucked up his withdrawal.
You know this how?
Where is your non partisan proof?
It fell in 1975. The US left in 1973.
We have built nasty reputation for the systemic abandonment of our allies where we leave them behind from the Montagnards of Vietnam to the Kurds in Syria and Afghans.
Reading reports, watching the news and staying in touch with people
in the Pentagon.
Why did Trump need 14 months and not complete the withdrawal?
By January 1 2021 the treaty was essentially fulfilled and the US only had 2,500 troops scattered around the country.
Trump could have ordered them out at that point and proclaimed himself a hero.
The demilitarization and evacuation of Bagram wasn't completed until 07/06/21. The only airframes left behind were already slated for scrapping.
Biden wanted safe and orderly and if possible a final date of 09/11
That didn't happen either because warfare is not a scheduled event
like soccer practice.
correct, I said Hmung but I was thinking Montagnards.
Chris McGee and Darwin Lee Judge would disagree
if they were alive today.
Alas they were the last two AMericans ( USMC ) to give their lives
"to the cause" on April 29 1975 at Tan Son Fhuc airfield. Both had been in country for just a few weeks.
Funny how indirect support included the whole Task Force 7
sitting off the coast of VN
I don't think anyone would disagree. We finished in 1973.
On Jan. 23, 1973, President Richard Nixon announced an accord had been reached to end the Vietnam War. In a televised speech, Nixon said the accord would “end the war and bring peace with honor.”
The Paris Peace Accords, negotiated by Nixon’s national security adviser, Henry Kissinger, and North Vietnam’s Le Duc Tho, called for a ceasefire to begin on Jan. 27 between North and South Vietnamese troops that would allow Americans troops to begin a 60-day withdrawal. Additionally, North Vietnam agreed to release all American prisoners of war.
Jan. 23, 1973 | Nixon Announces End of U.S. Involvement in Vietnam - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
and you don't know that either.
What I do know is that less time, means less planning and more variations from the plan.
And in 1974 we gave them $1.1 billion and another $$750 Million
in direct military aid while still conducting operations by the CIA in Laos and Thailand and who knows where else.
Isn't that the definition of a proxy war?
What was the 7TH Fleet doing there, fishing?
And they had a 100,000-man army.
Sorry, SP, they lost their war in the end.
Less time for the Taliban to plan, no amount of time will make up for the dementia in chief.
All the announcements in the world do not mean diddly shit. In 1975 the Mayaguez incident took place in Cambodia when the ship Mayaguez was captured by the Khmer Rouge and President Ford sent in the Marines what they thought would be a quick simple operation resulting in a disaster in which t otal U.S. casualties included 18 dead and 50 wounded. Twenty-three more USAF personnel died in a support force helicopter crash in Thailand due to mechanical failure.
If it hadn't been for a USMC Sargent Scout Sniper Fofo Tuitele the KIA and WIA would have been much higher.
Leave No Man Behind: The Truth About the Mayaguez Incident
The last casualties of the final battle of the Vietnam War were 3 Marines left behind on Cambodia’s Koh Tang Island.
The three Marines left behind survived for days but were finally captured and killled by the KR. They are the last names on the Vietnam Memorial.
Cambodia.
We also have troops in the middle east, but we are no longer fighting a war there.
You are just going to have to accept it: South Vietnam lost that war. We left in '73.
You didn't. Those who served did.
Not according to your friends. They point to bases that we kept there.
What say you?
I'm well aware that South Vietnam lost the war I did spend 24 months there, remember? I'm the squad leader.
I suppose you can claim whatever you want but the US government recognizes the 18 Marines KIA and the 50 wounded as Vietnam Vets and the KIA are on the Memorial Wall.
Of course, you could argue your point to SSGT Fofo Tuitele or PFC Al Bailey I'm sure that they have a much different view or the 18 that died there surely they would set you straight.
Sad that you insist on making a point that is moot when American Marines and Air Force personnel fought for their lives and many died.
Semper Fi
I know you keep telling us.
I suppose you can claim whatever you want but the US government recognizes the 18 Marines KIA and the 50 wounded as Vietnam Vets and the KIA are on the Memorial Wall.
Of course we recognize them.
Of course, you could argue your point to SSGT Fofo Tuitele or PFC Al Bailey I'm sure that they have a much different view or the 18 that died there surely they would set you straight.
We don't know how they felt. Some may even think that they might have a lot of disagreement with you, but it is never a good thing to invoke dead veterans into such a conversation.
Sad that you insist on making a point that is moot when American Marines and Air Force personnel fought for their lives and many died.
What is really sad is that you and it was YOU that used them to make a point that isn't even a valid point. The US war with North Vietnam ended in 1973 and that is a FACT.
Fair winds.
Only when I find it necessary to remind you that I have actual personal experience in that particular event.
If ''we'' recognize them and the battle took place after Nixon's announcement and they are on the wall as the last of the US KIA in the Vietnam War then the war must have been going on after Nixon's announcement...As stated announcements don't mean shit in the real world.
Actually, I do, since I spoke to SSGT Fofo several times, and of course you can read what he Bailey and several other Marines had to say about it.
You don't need to yell, it makes you whole comment more childish than it already is.
I didn't use them, I pointed out to you that if you spoke to them both those who sacrificed their lives and those like Fo Fo and Bailey you would get a quick history lesson.
Cheers
2.1.26
Is that why you do it?
If ''we'' recognize them and the battle took place after Nixon's announcement and they are on the wall as the last of the US KIA in the Vietnam War then the war must have been going on after Nixon's announcement...As stated announcements don't mean shit in the real world.
Sorry, Kavika, that simply isn't going to work.
Actually, I do, since I spoke to SSGT Fofo several times, and of course you can read what he Bailey and several other Marines had to say about it.
That we'll have to take your word for, won't we.
I didn't use them,
Yes, you did. Everyone can see it. Don't make it worse.
Adios Amigo!
Well duh.
Good to know that actual verified events don't work in your world.
Whether you take my word for it or not is of no concern of mine.
Yes, of course they can see it and what they see if they don't have blinders on is you tap dancing.
Cheers.
Thank you for reminding me, teacher.
Ahh, that's nice. It's amazing how fast this thread deflected from Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan to the withdrawal from Saigon some 50 years ago.
Hey Vic, who the HELL are you to tell a veteran that was there what the fck happened ?
Are you really this insecure where you choose to argue with a veteran that was ?
Have a little respect Vic, and as I know not if you served, but if you did, I thank you, just like i appreciate and thank Kavika for his service! Damn Vic, in my eyes that is WRONG..
Yoiu mean the treaty that Brandon unilaterally pushed back the departure date on? Thinking that the Taliban and all of the other factions we were fighting would honor it?
The fact that he lied not only to Afghanistans but to the US about the state of the war several months before the withdrawal; failed to get US civilians out- because he didn't want to make it look like the country was falling?
I no longer have the right to an opinion? Is this how it works in Biden's America?
Are you really this insecure where you choose to argue with a veteran that was ?
I've known many veterans. Just about every one of them agrees with me.
Have a little respect Vic, and as I know not if you served, but if you did, I thank you, just like i appreciate and thank Kavika for his service! Damn Vic, in my eyes that is WRONG..
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If my name was Bill Ayers, I would love every bit of it.
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As far as Vietnam, when I was there I never hated Nixon or Ford so much as I totally detested McNamara.
I can see the point of that,
so why detest Biden who was retired when the Dohan Agreement was signed by the Trump Administration?
Trying to detest one of the many SecDef appointees in the Trump Administration might be more difficult
but I believe it was a toss up between Miller and Esper at that time.
Overall there were 7 SecDef ; Only Mattis and Esper were confirmed the others were all Acting SecDef including a previous stint by Esper.
No worries, Iggy I expect it from him, he is probably trying to cover the fact that he never served, I don't know if it was from bone spurs or what but he does seem to be touchy about my service, trying to compensate for his lack of service I suppose.
The remark was made that the US was forced to retreat from Afghanistan with it's tail between it's legs.
Biden was a retired citizen when the Dohan Agreement was signed by the USA and the Taliban
without input from the actual government of Afghanistan.
During the Trump years at least 62 lives were lost in hostile action and no one here said a word that I remember.
The 13 lost in 2021 were most regrettable.
The zero lost in 22 was something no one here noticed either.
I see. Your defense of your deflection is duly noted.
How would you describe it?
I remember the State Department memos starting in February monthly warning Americans to leave,
I reprinted them here frequently that August and September.
From July 6 when the last planes and equipment were flown to Qatar and Bagram was declared demilitarized and evacuated, State emailed texted and announced daily for all concerned to leave via Kabul.
You are entitled to your own opinions, but to say that State did nothing is just misinformation.
Security Alert - May 15, 2021 - U.S. Mission to Afghanistan (usembassy.gov)
Everyone entitled to do so should have left that week but maybe people,
especially Americans, don't like to be told by the government what to do.
After all how often is the government or weatherman right?
They were correct this time and those who waited til the last minute paid, some with their lives.
no one denies that.
As 2.1.36 was responded to by member addressed in 2.1.38 comment stays in play and flag was dismissed
thanx, but i've NEVER flagged a comment and NEVER WILL, cause i'll take my verbal jui jitsu chances
As explanation, That message was more for flagger and other members and euphuizing thet if responded to by member addressed it stays in play.
Thanks for your participation
Biden dropping in to see the people of East Palestine over a year after the tragedy and acting like a sanctimonious savior is a bigger insult to these people than the fact that he was too busy to be bothered with the situation
Excuse me? What are you talking about? It has been a year since the tragedy. Sanctimonious savior? Insulted, how?
Again, what are you talking about?????
Makes no sense.
Excuse me? What are you talking about? It has been a year since the tragedy. Sanctimonious savior? Insulted, how?
Again, what are you talking about?????
Makes no sense.
You really don't understand and that is sad, but enjoy the satire and don't worry about missing the real point
see my prior comment and carry on
toodles
Tessylo
Always glad to reread your intellectual and insightful input
Actually it was sarcasm, but good try
I forgot. This is supposed to be satire.
But then satire is supposed to be funny.
Continue
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Under President Biden’s leadership, within hours of the derailment, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) deployed a team of trained emergency response personnel to East Palestine to aid state and local emergency and environmental response efforts. The Department of Transportation (DOT) also arrived on scene within hours to support the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in their independent investigation of the derailment. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) worked alongside state and local health departments to conduct public health testing and offer technical assistance. Throughout the response and recovery process, the Administration has continued to closely coordinate with the Ohio Governor, the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency, the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection and Department of Health and local partners, including the Village of East Palestine and Columbiana County.
Donald Trump Can’t Distract From His Failures
• Trump spent four years dismantling the very railroad protections that could have prevented the incident in the first place.
• Donald Trump reversed an Obama regulation that was designed to prevent this very type of accident.
And for those that actually care about the truth unlike the lying pieces of shit at the Lincoln project linked above.
Mr. Kelly Ann Conway never had any integrity to start with so why would anybody except anything honest from him now.
Did you miss the SATIRE tag?
Apparently
What protections were those? What Obama regulation?
The accident was caused by a faulty trackside defect detector that didn't give enough of an early enough warning of the hot bearing.
Why did it take Biden a whole year to visit the site of the accident? He could have taken a day less of vacation.
He probably didn’t go because it took Jill a year to explain that Ohio isn’t where HAMAS is, and he wouldn’t get hurt.
Nah, I'm sure it was because they didn't want to expose someone so frail to toxins...
Trump, Who Deregulated the Railroad Industry, Lies to the People of Ohio in His Visit
Asked about his administration’s own record, Trump pretended he had nothing to do with it.
The truth! Thanks!
SATIRE folks, SATIRE
It is pathetic that it took till he was campaigning and down in polls to visit this town. Perfect fodder for satire...
Would it matter if he were up in the polls?
Well, I will agree it's fodder.
After a year? Not to a lot of Americans. Thanks for your comments.
You are welcome.
If Brandon would have given a shit about the people of East Palestine it wouldn't be "fodder".
But they were the wrong demographic; and he treated them as such.
He provided a lot of that in the past week:
In his disastrous press conference of last week, he claimed that special counsel Hur’s report exonerated him. Anyone who read the findings concluded exactly the opposite.
Then he lied about what was said during his deposition that Hur brought up his son’s death (“How in the hell dare he raise that?”). In fact, Biden as is his serial wont, raised it, and does on a regular basis, and usually further lying that his son died while on military duty in Iraq.
He lied about notifying people about the classified documents he had in his garage and elsewhere "as soon as he realized it." In truth, Biden only admitted that he had for decades unlawfully removed classified files in 2017, to his ghostwriter in a recorded tape, and then he hid that fact and kept quiet for five more years, right up until his administration’s special counsel began to investigate Trump for the same thing. The ghostwriter then destroyed the tape.
He also lied when he claimed the files had no classification marks. They did.
He lied when he tried to convince the people that Trump’s once secure border is somehow responsible for Biden’s intentionally open border.
Finally, he told his biggest whopper when he claimed that Trump somehow caused the Ukraine invasion to occur under Biden's watch.
Where were all the liberal fact checkers in the last two weeks?
All lies
Great ghosts, you mean like the Durham report?
At least Durham didn't offer his opinions on things not germane to the topic.
Funny how that myopic partisan tunnel vision works isn't it?
Both reports dealt with intent, neither found criminal intent.
The rest of Biden's gaffes no matter how they were interpreted by Fox News had nothing to do with the Hur report.
How so, did he pause for a photo op
to throw paper towels to hurricane survivors?
Even satire can be propaganda.
Absolutely
E Hunter Harrison and the hedge fund managers who supported him should be blamed for this accident. Hunter and his misnamed idea called Precision Scheduled Railroading (PSR) which calls for an operation ratio approaching 50% badly hurt the 3 railroads he got control of at different times before he died. PSR cut maintenance and safety budgets along with other non-Precision things Norfolk Southern (which he didn't get his hands on) was hurt by this cost cutting and was starting to recover when this accident happened.
Before being afflicted with PSR Norfolk Southern had won the railroad safety award about 20 years in a row.