3 shot after gunfire erupts at Eid al-Fitr event in West Philadelphia marking end of Ramadan - 6abc Philadelphia
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PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- Three people were shot and five people are in custody after gunfire erupted in a Philadelphia park where an Eid al-Fitr event, to mark the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, was taking place Wednesday.
Gunfire erupted around 2:30 p.m. near Clara Muhammad Square in the area of 47th Street and Wyalusing Avenue in West Philadelphia as an estimated 1,000 people were at the celebration.
Philadelphia Police Commissioner Kevin Bethel said two factions inside the park exchanged gunfire, and some 30 shots were fired.
Amid the gunfire, one of the officers engaged an armed 15-year-old male suspect, shooting that teen in the shoulder and leg. The officer secured the gun and then took the teen to the hospital in stable condition, police said.
Sources tell Action News that the teen was armed with a rifle, however, it's still unknown if the weapon was fired.
The discharging officer has been placed on administrative duty pending the outcome of the investigation.
A total of five weapons were recovered at the scene.
Investigators say the five suspects include four males and a female. They are between the ages of 15 and 21.
What we know about the victims
A 22-year-old man suffered a gunshot wound to the stomach, while a 15-year-old boy arrived at the hospital with a gunshot wound to his hands.
Both victims are listed as stable. Police say there were no fatalities as a result of the shooting.
The 22-year-old was identified by family as Nhashon "Tawfiq" Richards. His father, Corey Taylor, told Action News that his sone was alert and responsive but will likely need surgery.
Nhashon "Tawfiq" Richards
After having time to reflect on what happened, Taylor said he forgives the shooters because of his faith.
"I forgive them because I want Allah to forgive me for everything I did in my lifetime," Taylor said. "I'm not perfect -- that's how it's easy for me to forgive, I don't mean that you go allow someone to hurt you again but I try to lead by example. I try not to be a hypocrite."
Amid the chaos, Bethel said a police vehicle struck a 15-year-old and she suffered a fractured leg. Bethel said the department is sending prayers to her and will be reaching out to her family.
Philadelphia police update on shooting amid celebration to mark end of Ramadan
Video from Chopper 6 showed multiple tables, chairs and tents that were abandoned in the chaos.
"I just saw everybody just running and frantic, you know, everybody. The kids, people's strollers getting turned over, everybody screaming," said one witness who did not want to be identified. "I heard fireworks... and it sort of turned into gunshots."
"Everybody just ran away like it was an elephant stampede," she continued.
Philadelphia woman says gunfire chaos was like an 'elephant stampede'
Police officers could be seen conducting a meticulous search for shell casings and evidence of gunfire.
Commissioner Bethel praised the efforts of the Philadelphia Police Department, stating, "I'm extremely proud of the men and women who continued to serve in this department and the actions they took today."
He also lauded the bravery of civilians who, amidst the chaos, ensured the safety of children by removing them from harm's way.
Bethel underscored the unexpected nature of the incident, given the celebratory context, "We know that the majority, 99% of the individuals at this event, are good people who wanted to have a good time."
The violence, according to Bethel, was a stark reminder of the issues facing the community, particularly concerning youth engagement in gun violence.
According to our 6abc Data Journalism Team, there have been 266 shooting victims in Philadelphia so far this year. Of those victims, 30 of them are under 18 years old.
"It's stupid and it's nonsense. Peoples' lives is priceless, appreciate and value your life," said Taylor.
'You had little babies out there'
Najah Bey said her cousin Nhashon "Tawfiq" Richards was shot while fleeing the gunfire.
"We applied pressure and they put him right into the cop car," she recalled.
Relative of Philadelphia shooting victim recalls chaos fleeing gunfire
Bey said it was a happy day filled with cultural and religious celebration, and it just quickly turned to chaos.
"It was very scary to see all of them people laying down on the ground like that in fear of their lives. It's sad in Philadelphia, it's very sad. You can't even have a celebration without having to worry about somebody getting shot. It's sad. You had little babies out there," she said.
Zania Weatherford had just gone to her car for a moment when she heard the gunfire and saw people running across the street. She called relatives at the event to make sure they were safe.
"Last year, someone set off firecrackers and scared everyone," Weatherford said. "This is just a celebration of life for God to forgive us for our sins. There's one month that God chains the devil down, so whoever did this can't even blame the devil."
The shooting incident is under investigation. Local law enforcement are collaborating with federal partners, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the FBI.
Chopper 6 overhead after gunfire erupts at Eid al-Fitr event in Parkside on April 10, 2024.
What is Eid al-Fitr?
As the holy month of Ramadan comes to an end, Muslims are celebrating the holiday of Eid al-Fitr.
Eid marks the end of Ramadan, a month when devout Muslims fast daily from dawn to sunset.
Eid al-Fitr means the feast, or festival, of breaking the fast. The holiday is marked with congregational prayers and festivities, which typically include family visits, gatherings, and new clothes.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Isn't multiculturalism wonderful!
The fact is that Biden campaigned for president promising an array of enticements for people to break our laws to enter this country. He promised amnesty for those already here, taxpayer-provided health care, work permits, support for sanctuary cities, and a cessation of deportations.
Border Crisis Is No Accident. It’s Biden Making Good on Campaign Promises. | The Heritage Foundation
Violence is the fault of mulitculturalism? Wow...
Yes sir.
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Some cultures are more into violence than others.
It's obvious who the perps are and it's not necessarily all white nationalists.
So are you saying peace can only be attained through "ethnic cleansing"?
Sure. Gang culture being one of them, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't what Vic or you are talking about.
No, you and John are trying to pretend I'm saying that. [deleted]
[✘] Rational human beings know what I'm saying. Two opposing cultures cannot live together peacefully.
He didn't say that. Each culture needs to deal with its own bad actors, instead of playing the victim and blaming others.
I'm not pretending anything. I'm trying to find out what your issue with multiculturalism really is.
The operative word here is "opposing", but I'm not sure where that fits into multiculturalism. Friction usually comes about where one group wants the others to conform to their standard.
As someone famous around here likes to say "don't put words in my mouth."
The operative word here is "opposing", but I'm not sure where that fits into multiculturalism.
I find that hard to believe.
Friction usually comes about where one group wants the others to conform to their standard.
Which would that be? The one that has the wide-open door or the one that chants "death to America?"
Violence seems to have become ingrained into American culture. We should deal with it without demonizing (and I'm not pointing fingers at anyone here) broad swaths of people. Muslim Americans are no more, or less, prone to violence than Christian Americans. Violence transcends culture.
By opposing cultures, it appears you mean the cultures of Muslims and Christians. Ain't religion wonderful?!?!???
“Two opposing cultures cannot live together peacefully.”
That could be the saddest statement imaginable. Go to a kindergarten class where multicultural children coexist with joy and friendship. Hate is learned, hate is inculcated, and hate is detrimental to every aspect of our society.
It doesn’t have to be this way. Let us be better and follow our children’s lead and quit pretending it impossible to get along.
Wrong again. I mean American and Muslim cultures. They aren't even close.
Examples are everywhere: Explain the difference in how American culture treats homosexuals and Muslim culture treats them.
Tell us you don't see any conflict there.
Yes, you shouldn't do that. It's rude.
So if "opposing" is not the operative word then we are back to "cultures" and inferring only people who come from the same backgrounds can coexist?
It would apply to any and all groups that thinks they are entitled to dictate cultural norms.
That wasn't even a good dodge.
I'm not the one dodging and I'm not also not the one demonizing whole cultures of people as violent.
Can anyone answer the question in post 1.1.14 ?
The family of Mathew Shepard may want to, sure.
How about you?
What, exactly, does that term mean? ("Opposing cultures").???
Which cultures are the most "opposing"?
And-- which are the "least opposing"?
Last year there were over 550 state laws targeting queer people. I don't see a lot of difference between the attitudes of some Americans and some Muslims. People in America are still killed because they are queer, just as they are in other countries and other cultures.
The bottom line is that violence happens in all cultures as it's not a cultural issue as opposed to a human issue. If one wants into the numbers and statistics, people commit acts of violence more often in their own homes and neighborhoods than they do elsewhere.
What does a drug murder from last century have to do with how America treats homosexuals?
And-- are some "cultures" more homogenous than others?
Or are some simply more "pasteurized"?
(Apologies if this comment is a bit off topic, but I'm obviously trying to "milk this topic for all its worth"!)
And what is the difference other than religion?
Easy, the difference is secular and theocratic.
I only do that 2% of the time, but I do find this article interesting as it is in my neck of the woods. They didn't elaborate on identities of the shot, and the shooters, or did i miss something ? I spent a lot of time in West Philly a few years back, and had weapons pulled on us on some of our jobs, witnessed shootings, and more than I would like to divulge. In economically depressed urban areas of high density, irregardless of any multiculturism, sexual orientation, or race, there will always be conflicts. It is human nature and when by design, it isn't difficult to see why this shit happens.
[ deleted ] [ ✘ ] sees no difference between America's "LBGTQ" rights provisions ( 9 Supreme Court Cases That Shaped LGBTQ Rights in America | TIME) and Muslims tossing gays off of roof tops.
Then he compares killings that are against the law & culture of America to the murders of Muslims in Muslim countries where they are legal.[ ✘ ]
Antisemitism has surged in certain parts of the US in the wake of the start of the Israel-Hamas war.
Here are the Muslims in America:
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
What an asswipe...............
Antisemitism is just another religious issue.
Which is exactly what I said, religion. Ain't it grand....
The problem with your little declaration is that Jews don't advocate killing non-Jews.
Are you seeing the difference yet?
Our country has been multicultural from its beginning and the majority of us live together peacefully, as I am sure you know. One has to wonder why take this OPPORTUNITY to spread (more) division between people.
Furthermore, I am pretty sure MAGAs love guns. . . so several being 'deployed' and even fired one or more should be "glorious.' That is, I know this is not a gripe about guns! I just know it is not!
Our country has been known as a melting pot for a reason. The legal immigrants who came here wanted to be Americans.
Don't give yourselves, plural, to big of a pat on the back. . . we see effort with expectation of more of it put into rolling back homosexual progress in the United States. Case in point: Justice Clarence Thomas wants to see a challenge come up to SCOTUS on same-sex marriage so (he hopes) him and other conservative justices can repeal its precedence.
And it is because it is a melting pot that you do not see more conflicts than are already being molasses-ly slow to end!
You moved the goalpost when you went from talking about U.S. culture to cultural aspects overseas. Homosexuals are treated more or less the same as MAGAs and White Evangelical Christians treat us in the United States, , , for U.S. Muslims either location/position softens hard hearts or U.S. Muslims don't want to end up in a U.S. prison for harming people who are not harming them simply because of religiously taught HATRED.
BTW, this is the larger problem I see with this 28 years old. . .he 'deployed' something like (or actually was) an IED. Uh-uh! That is serious! It's not a regular thing for our country and so I am shocked and horrified over it (and hope it is a one-off). We don't want IEDs 'littering' our country! I know I don't. Keep that bull out of our country! No Sir!
I will say it again:
How do you compare a country that has enacted gay rights with regimes that endorse the killing of gays?
Their bible does.
Gay rights which would never have come about without a Democratically lead administration.
That is not an answer.
It is 10:30 AM and they are lurking.
Bullshit plain and simple. You cannot prove this is honest and truthful because you cannot just pull shit out of thin air and state it's the truth.
You don't. As I am pretty sure MAGAs politically-speaking had little to nothing to do with homosexuals getting rights in our country. Keep asking, the answer will come back nearly the same every time.
Bibles don't kill people-- people kill people!
Hi Ozzwald. Just read your comment again, and I was curious-- have you ever actually known and people who were Jewish?
If so-- what were they like?
I have and have had friends from different backgrounds-- including some who were Jewish. And for the most part they were pretty decent people!
Perhaps your experience with Jews has been different?
2 Chronicles 15:12-13
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman".
Luke 19:27
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
Matthew 10:34
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword".
Ezekiel 35:7-9
I will make Mount Seir a waste and a desolation, and I will cut off from it all who come and go. And I will fill its mountains with the slain. On your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines those slain with the sword shall fall. I will make you a perpetual desolation, and your cities shall not be inhabited. Then you will know that I am the Lord".
1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
And too many people kill people because their holy book told them to.
Our typical DA's are to stupid to let the homicide juries know the killer's true motivation.
They were just like anyone else. Some were nice and good friends, some were not so nice.
The vast majority that I know are the same.
Why would you ask that? I don't see where I even implied such a thing.
The bible tells people that it is okay to own slaves, kill nonbelievers, commit pedophilia, and even more atrocities. That does not reflect on the people, most are unaware of the actual words in the bible, many know them and disregard them, and many are Christians in name only. They don't teach the bad stuff in Sunday school.
I try to judge people based on who they are and their actions, not what some invisible sky fairy is trying to whisper in their ears.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with anything I have said.
Aren't all the Amalek and Canaanites already dead?
Of course it does, you said, "And too many people kill people because their holy book told them to 1.1.47
Bravo, you found some passages in the bible that sort of fit the bill for the bilge you pushed. If you keep looking you can find passages where gay sex is forbidden along with a bunch of other things. But you better toss out the lines from Luke and Matthew, New Testament books didn't make it into the Tanakh. Only the books from the Old Testament are included.
But you should read the full chapters in order to get the full context of what is being talked about. Nowhere in there does it say it's ok to just go out and kill non-Jews.
Which has nothing to do with DA's or juries.
I listed a few of them, but not all.
Like wearing mixed fabric, eating shellfish, and shaving your beard among many others.
Why didn't you quote them? Is it because mine vastly outnumber yours, and the contradictions put the validity of the entire bible into jeopardy? Remember, old or new testament, it is still the same god. Isn't it?
Only quotes from the BIBLE are included.
Pretty cut and dry. Kill anyone that does not seek the god of Israel.
2 Chronicles 15:12-13
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman".
Luke 19:27
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
By the actions of their various factions, Muslims appear to be a culture more prone to violence.
He was killed by another gay man, a former sex partner, over drugs.
Yes it does, you cited religious beliefs as the motivation for too many killings. Motivations that apparently aren’t brought to the juries attention.
Perhaps it’s not that the DA’s are wrong, but that you are. Are you up to admitting your mistake?
Some prefer to defend the indefensible.
That's a horrific and ignorant lie. He was brutally beaten, tortured and left to die by two straight men, not his boyfriend
That is sick and hateful and a LIE.
Go all the way back to your post at 1.1.39 which started our little discussion. Your statement was very clear, that the Jewish Bible advocates the killing of non-Jews. The Jewish Bible is called The Tanakh. It is comprised of the books of the Old Testament and does not include books from the New Testament. So you cannot include books from the New Testament based on your line where you state the Jewish Bible advocates the killing of non-Jews.
On the killing of non-Jews:
This is not non-Jews, it is any one who does not seek the Lord. This was an attempt to remove idol worship from the lands governed by Asa who was king at the time.
This was for the people living in the lands that Asa was king of. AS you can see from verse 9 above, it includes all of Judah and Benjamin, as well as the people from Ephraim, Manasseh and Simeon which at the time were lands governed by Asa.
Indeed, retribution for what the Amalek people did to the Israelites when they were coming out of Egypt. From Exodus 17, after the Israelites passed the Red Sea and camped at Rephidim, the Amalekites attacked them from behind.
A very specific group of people are named, not just non-Jews.
And you continue to ignore current Jewish law. I provided the statements from a very prominent Rabbi in 1.1.42 where it is clear that murder is murder. A reposting of that part is this :
Again off topic since this discussion is not about judicial proceedings, no matter how many time you try to deflect to that direction.
While it is true that many homophobes appear to have gay tendencies which they are desperate to conceal, even to the point of violence, I have not seen any facts to indicate his killers were gay.
No deflection, it an illustration that you assertion is erroneous.
Pretty sure I only included the old testament.
So because it promotes killing other religious followers as well it doesn't count? Are you really going to that defense?
So what? My quotes still stand despite your attempt to spin.
So the god of vengeance told them to kill other people. So what?
So Rabbi's out-rank god himself. Interesting religion. Don't like god's commandments, not to worry a Rabbi can tell you just to ignore that part of god's commands.
It was two 'men' who robbed him and Matthew allegedly made a sexual advance towards one of them which enraged the scumbag and he killed Matthew.
IT WAS NOT A GAY LOVER. THAT IS AN IGNORANT LIE.
Although I understand some feel that the appropriate penalty for making an unwanted sexual advance is to be beaten and tortured and left to die for threatening your 'manhood' or lack thereof.
It's also sickens me that some voted up your ignorant and hateful lie.
You're trying to imply that since defendants don't use the defense of "god told me to do it" in court, that the bible doesn't tell its followers to do it? That is a sad and pitiful defense, and still not related to my statement.
MAGA clique even vote up obvious lies.
No, I clearly was speaking of prosecutors not including religious beliefs as the killers motive.
Not as sad as your biased beliefs in much of humanity.
“MAGA clique…”
There is some comfort in knowing that the psychotic sycophants posting on this site neither represent the truth (which always will come to light) nor represent our reality (which will come to pass).
Again as always…Vote.
Probably figures Matthew had it coming to him and it was warranted, like they feel about immigrants. Less than human.
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Is there any evidence that Muslim celebrators were targeted? Perhaps they were caught in the crossfire between to teen groups.
“Police on Thursday identified one of the five in custody as Kahbir Oglesby-Hicks, 21, of West Philadelphia. He faces charges related to guns, evading arrest and more.
The other four people in custody are two 15-year-old boys, a 16-year-old girl and a 16-year-old boy, police said.”
”Two U.S. officials confirmed to CBS News the shooting does not appear to be an ideologically driven or targeted attack.”
Just some kids enjoying a day off from school.
It was never proven the killer was homosexual himself , closeted or otherwise, though being in prison now it can be questioned, nor was it ever established or proven there had been a sexual relationship between the two, what was somewhat proven was there was drug dealings involving the two.
A lot of people get fucked up and even killed in the drug trade.
I see some are defending the indefensible by implying that Matthew's death had something to do with drugs. That is also sickening and defense of the indefensible.
A drug dealing, addicted, prostitute doesn’t make for a useful poster boy.
From talking to people involved, it was over weed.
Minor I would agree, but no dealer can let it be known they can be stiffed, no pun intended.
I think it was over meth.
Here is an interesting article from an unlikely source:
Is ‘The Laramie Project’ a Convenient Untruth?
A new book about the Matthew Shepard murder challenges the theater community to reevaluate a cherished play.
More ignorant lies keep coming about the murder of this young man. Such victim blaming is deplorable.
Telling the truth isn’t victim blaming, Mathew was clearly a victim and the killers were rightfully convicted. The narrative that two, red neck cowboys went into a gay bar and killed Matthew because of homophobia is what is false.
“ John Stoltenberg is a gay-rights activist who lived with the feminist writer Andrea Dworkin until her death in 2005. He’s a long-time supporter of The Laramie Project , but has also blogged positively about The Book of Matt . “Keeping Matthew as the poster boy of gay-hate crime and ignoring the full tragedy of his story has been the agenda of many gay-movement leaders,” he says. “Ignoring the tragedies of Matthew’s life prior to his murder will do nothing to help other young men in our community who are sold for sex, ravaged by drugs, and generally exploited. They will remain invisible and lost.”
Nothing but ignorance and lies and hate and victim blaming. Sickening and deplorable.
NO truth to be found in such ignorance and hate.
Do you suspect Kahbir Oglesby-Hicks, 21, and four juveniles that have been arrested for their alleged roles in the shooting at the Eid al-Fitr celebration are Jewish?
Do you suspect that these five arrested hate Muslims?
Matthew and Luke are books in the New Testament. That's why I said you should not include them as The Tanakh is comprised of books from the Old Testament only.
You continue to spin and twist. You try to push that conditions from 2000+ years ago are still fully in force today when it's not. Don't forget about the Commandment 'Thou shall not kill'. The Amalek people attacked the Israelites before they were given The Commandments. And the time from Asa is a record of what happened and an attempted rationalization of why it happened. Or are you saying to actually believe that God came down and told them what to do.
That's interesting spin as God provided a Commandment that said 'Thou shall not kill' and the statements I provided from the Rabbi clearly states that murder is murder and murder is wrong. So where is the Rabbi telling ANYBODY to ignore that Commandment?
But I am not, which is why you remain off topic.
Jesus says the old testament is still valid.
Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them".
So god has changed his own rules? He was wrong the 1st time and god didn't know that things change?
Now look who's quoting the old testament. Trying to have it both ways?
And as I posted earlier, god also commanded the deaths of multiple people including the rape and enslavement of children. Why would an all knowing god command such contradictions?
It's almost like the bible was nothing but a bunch of stories from various anonymous people who never consulted with each other to establish a consistency.
You're the one who pushed up in 1.1.39 that the Jewish Bible advocates the killing of non-Jews.
In 1.1.66 to state that you are :
So when called out that The Tanakh (the Jewish Bible) is made up of Old Testament books ONLY, you deflect to this?
So God cannot change how he does business? According to scripture, with the flood he wiped out almost all life on Earth and after sent the rainbow as his covenant that He would never do that again. So he does get to change his rules.
Not sure where you get that argument from. I never got it wrong by trying to claim that The Tanakh included books from the New Testament. As The Tanakh is books from the Old Testament, then citing that commandment isn't wrong or trying to have it both ways. It's in proper context to support what the Rabbi stated. You appear to be scrambling so hard on this that you no longer know what you are trying to say. You have been completely wrong in your statement that started this and continue to flail.
The books of the Bible were written by men, as related from verbally told stories that occurred a great many years before the written accounts were created. You ever play 'Post Office' when you were younger? In that game, it's a game to see how much a story changes as it's repeated from one person to the next.
You assume that you know the 'big picture' as to why God would command one thing over here and a different thing over there. But the simple truth is that we do not know the big picture.
Have a nice day, I'm done with you.
And I have proven such.
You were the one trying to deflect to the new testament, not me. Just because I included a new testament quote was only to show consistency. I was not deflecting to it, just showing the the old testament still pertained.
I'll give you a hint. If there was a god, there would be no contradictions in the "big picture" because god would be all knowing.
This shooting will turn out to be about two black groups that don’t like each other, not about Jews, Muslims or Christians.
Nice racist deflection.
Usually whatever they can......................
You called out a privileged demographic. That makes people cry.
If Blacks are so damn "privileged" - especially "two black groups" - perhaps MAGAs should make the effort to sign up for them!
Thanks for verifying that calling out certain demographics making people cry part.
In MAGAs' shattered dreams, I guess. There is so much delusion going on out there. But, we must continue bravely onward to confront delusion, obstruction, disinformation, and misinformation (everywhere we find it).
And you're still at it. And all about nothing.
Most aren't old enough to vote.
Well, there yet remains hope (and time) for getting them onboard, I see.
Jeremy, I could care less about whatever it is you are fighting to gain. So just keep charging ahead and butting around blindly at liberals. . . at the end of a day, someday, we might can compare facts and see where we end up. Before any of that can happen—this ready to engage in rhetorical "combat' that is on display needs to wrap it up and subside.
And yet here you are.
I am here, because it is a forum I happen to like and share with you. And, on that note: You are here, too.
yeah, the whole country went to hell after europe dumped it's southern garbage on our doorstep 100+ years ago...
A least we got Columbus Day out of the deal.
And Pizza!
I see some of them here on NT on this 'article'
Isn't this how terrorists celebrate? Now it's time to blame the police.
The good news is that our urban trauma centers have gotten so good at treating gunshot patients, 80% of them survive. It's the most effective way to keep our homicide rate from exploding.
It is remarkable how good they are. Without their incredible skill, we’d have 1970s murder rates in slot of cities.
Indeed, homicide rates aren't a good metric for measuring violence any more, medical care masks the number of shooting victims. It might actually be higher than in the 70's.
Unless it's a really unique shooting who really cares? Multiple people are shot in the US every single day, it's like saying the sun rose this morning
Exactly, every day around 200 are shot here each day, not counting suicides. About 41 die, our trauma care has gotten good enough to mask much of the gun violence.