A Massive Rally in a blue state
"Trump held a beachside rally in Wildwood, New Jersey, on Saturday evening as at least 80,000, and up to 100,000 supporters, joined the 45th president in the historically deep-blue state. Simultaneously, 24 miles across Deleware Bay, Biden arrived at his home in Rehoboth Beach for Mother’s Day."
Massive Trump beach rally in deep-blue NJ draws stark contrast to Biden's beach weekend: 'Biden could never' (msn.com)
It was breathtaking to see. Some people had waited days to see & hear the former President. Others were way beyond a place where they could actually see him. He started slow, mentioning how Frank Sinatra had once told him never to eat before a performance, yet Trump couldn't resist the hot dog stand. As he went on he gathered steam, reminding the people what was at stake in the next election.
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The largest rally in the history of New Jersey.
It isn't going to make a difference in the election, NJ will vote blue.
That is what is so strange to so many. One draws maybe 80 thousand and the other can't draw flies, yet the dumb ass gets a ton of mail-in-votes. Maybe old Joe appeals to the house bound. That must be it!
You mail in your vote.
Really only a few ways that could happen.
Since NJ is a 60/40 split in voters, the 40% are Republicans with TBI the 60% dems will win again.
Only in the eyes of the losers of 2020.
60 or more court cases and numerous investigations by the Republicans and they lost them all...LMAO talk about losers, they are the poster child for losers.
it's the 2024 election season's first outdoor moron convention on the east coast ...
And you really think that means something after so many attempts and altered evidence by the prosecutors?
It means a lot since the republicans lost every case and the 2020 results stayed even with all the whining and crying from the weenies on the right.
And there it is, the deflection.
And in the eyes of the losers in 2016. I could keep going but you get the point.
Nah, those have been happening on college campuses for weeks now all over the country. Useful idiots all. The pride of our friends on the left.
Your usual response, LOL you need a new refrain.
No, I don't get your point, please point out the number of court cases lost by the dem in 2016 and the number of dem investigations that produced zilch .
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How did the vote recount go in AZ?
Glad to help. Here is your primer of Democrat “losers”
A bushel basket of Democrat “losers” …….. yeeerrrrrr out!
My question was this:
You didn't answer it with your response.
Down ballot perhaps, but Trump will triumph. You appear to be in denial of how poorly most of the country regards Biden and his dismal record.
No, but it does rally Trump's base; and shows that he can still gather a crowd in even that Democrat bastion of stupidity.
It isn't like Trump is free to campaign across the country like Brandon is; thanks to a Democrat New York judge.
He drew crowds of millions, per Trump in the 2016 race and still lost.
Perhaps if he didn't fuck up he wouldn't be in that predicament. So sad.
Yes--- the state is heavily Democratic.
And while this is technically accurate, but might lead to an erroneous conclusion:
A Massive Rally In A Blue State
Why? Well its a Blue state-- but the Wildwood area is mostly Republican. (The congressional representative of that area is a Republican).
And a bit of trivia: It would be perhaps more accurate to rephrase that as:
A Massive Republican Rally south of the Mason Dixon line
One might then assume that a "massive Trump rally in the South is not such as big deal! (Compared to a massive trump rally in a Democratic area...)
IIRC the Mason-Dixon line goes from West to East along the Southern border of PA-- and the southernmost part of NJ does lie South of that latitude! (Although the line was as drawn did not enter NJ.
In any event that area is mainly Republican.
Memorable scenes from Wildwood
Do you find that sentiment to be accurate? Appropriate?
Wow, the supporters of the former 'president' are such classy white trash!
Your crowd even called George W Bush a Nazi.
I'm afraid it no longer means anything. I hope you feel better now.
these folks just love to call others Nazis or Fascists but have exhibited no indication they even know what the words mean .
Gaggle of Trump voters
a klan of democrats.
It's interesting when folks who really don't have a clue about what the words Nazis or Fascists mean criticize those who do. Comment 3.4.2 is a perfect example.
What John said is truthful. Who compared dubya to a Nazi??????????????????????????
And John McCain….
Ya that's right, McCain didn't become respected by democrats until he feuded with Trump.
Hell, Trump didn't become hated until he left the Democrat Party and beat them at their own game.
That is right.
So no one then.
Got it.
Classless trump bottom feeders, thanks for pointing them out.
Stupid people do stupid things every day
Lawrence Taylor and Otis Anderson endorse Trump.
“I just wanted to say, I grew up a Democrat and I’ve always been a Democrat until I met this man right here,” pointing to Trump.
“Lawrence Taylor…”
‘His personal life came under public scrutiny in 2010 when he was arrested for the statutory rape of a 16-year-old girl.’
Birds of a characterless feather…
At least neither were his daughter, something Joe Biden can't claim.
“At least…”
If the only place to hang one’s hat, it is the lonely time to hang one’s head.
…”At least…”
They support their rapists and white trash - just like the former 'president'!
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For God's sake. get a freaking grip.
“For God's sake. get a freaking grip.”
…for gawds sake, get a freaking life…”
I have one, unfortunately there are too many left wing Biden sycophants in it presently.
“I have one…”
And if weren’t for this venue, just how would you occupy your time, your thoughts, your self gratification?
The sheer amount of posts and the intensity of the work put in with the inevitable disclaimers speaks volumes. Sad, actually.
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And that's the truth.
“…I can glean from them.”
Comedy, sarcasm, truth? Only you seem able and willing to describe intent. Carrion.
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“…the hang of it.”
No worries, tex…you are the one always, always, always leaving yourself out to dry.
must be from those left wing rabid dogs pissing in the wind.
“…left wing rabid dogs…”
Cogent? Hardly.
Constructive? Please.
Predictable? Always.
Carrion.
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Some hold the former 'president' to no standards whatsoever
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Endorsed by Lawrence Taylor, who is a perfect mini me for Trump since his criminal record seems in so cases to mimic DJT.
In 1996 and 1997, he was arrested in South Carolina and Florida on drug charges. In those cases, he either admitted his guilt or agreed to enter a pretrial intervention program.
In 2000, he drew five years of federal probation for filing false tax returns and for tax evasion.
Then there is this little gem:
And yet strangely enough Donald trump doesn't smoke or drink or use drugs unlike the alcohol crack using Biden family. i think your characterization is projection.
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but, but, but, what about ...
Indeed Hunter has/had a drug problem, has anyone in the immediate Biden family been convicted of drug crimes? and for projection did Trump lose a case or two for millions to E. Jean Carroll?
Simply pointing out the facts, if you can dispute them, please do.
Cheers.
I could ask you the same question about the trump family? how many of them have gone to rehab? All Bidens kids appear to be fucked up in the head, as well as all the animals he raised. That tells me what kind of person he is.
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What is the relevance of these facts to who he supports?
Yeah, and Biden’s son also had an affair with his sister in law at the same time he was blowing throw millions on drugs and impregnating a stripper, whose child he did everything possible to avoid supporting or even acknowledging.
makes the trump kids look like the cleavers
None that is public, but Donnie JR and his girlfriend look like coke on the rocks most of the time. If you think that Biden's kids are fucked up in the head what does that say about the Trump kids?
Speaking of animals looking at the Trump kids reinforces that the rotten apple does fall far from the rotten tree.
The relevance is that both were found guilty of some for of sexual crime except that DJT had to pay a lot more than Lawrence did.
And? That somehow is relevant to who he supports as president?
We call that a real s t r e t c h down here.
Of course, one crook or sexual abuser supporting another. LOL
Well, you can support the same person as a crack smoking underage whore would... would you??
So?
So he wasn't a republican until he met trump? that explains why he was having sex with minors like Biden, he was a democrat.
this what a crowd of 100, 000 people looks like
The idea that this many people were at Trump's rally is laughable.
Still more people than any Brandon or Hillary rally could ever draw.
So is denial, but that never stops the hard core liberal left.
That is a old photo of a Obama rally. The subject is Trump. Do try to stay on topic.
If MAGAs want to believe that there were 100,000 people at the trump rally on Saturday let them go right ahead. it fits in with all their other delusions.
The fucking moron says he draws bigger crowds than Bruce Springsteen in Bruce's home state and said that Bruce voted for him.
now that's fucking funny
I don't think he listens to Bruce's music
So how many do you think were there and what are your sources? Or is your comment just wishful thinking/just a guess since Biden could not fill a diner with people that want to see him.
Cool, a picture of a Rod concert is proof of a Trump rally attendance. That is like saying the picture below is the picture of a what a Biden rally looks like. Oooops, it might be.
i think you lost the plot
Shocking that you would think so.
At least you had one.
The bird's eye view really puts into perspective at how small a football stadium actually is. Getting the whole stadium in the picture and you can still make out the individuals in and out of the stadium.
I saw a video of Trumps rally crowd. It looked to me like what you would see in a half filled major league baseball stadium.
Per the last census , NJ has approximately 1,883,313 Republicans. So even if there was a crowd of 100,000 and they all were NJ Republicans (both quite generous assumptions) that represents 5.3 % of the total NJ Republicans. It would not be surprising that in a state where the Republicans have not seen their presidential votes count since 1988, that Trump would siphon off a sliver of the hyper MAGA for a rare appearance of a GOP presumptive nominee.
I do not expect Trump to win NJ.
Guess all those Republicans were just sitting it out.
If you look at the stats, the Rs are outnumbered in NJ. It is difficult to get a GOP win in a state where the Ds outnumber the Rs by a significant amount.
Why would you ignore that basic fact and just presume the Rs were "sitting it out"?
just basing it on your earlier claims of people who vote sitting it out.
Why would you think I am ignoring facts?
Then your comment is ill-formed.
Figure out your premises, ensure they are based in fact, then formulate an argument.
Right now, your comment is nonsensical.
When did they stop allowing out of staters into Jersey to go to a rally?
I don't expect him to win Jersey either but one never knows, Joe is making it harder and harder to vote for him.
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Who said they did? If you had followed what I wrote, you would have seen that I made the generous assumption that these are only NJ voters. If you relax that assumption and assume that the attendees also included imports, then the percentage becomes less impressive.
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Numbers mean very little if the party faithful doesn't get out and vote for the old bastard. We have no idea of the independent vote, and Biden is losing numbers in just about every demographic.
Correct, the only numbers that matter are those by voters who actually cast a ballot.
Even those you have accused of sitting it out?
Sure sounds different from your other claims!
Again with the vague, incoherent claims.
The only numbers that matter are those by voters who actually cast a ballot.
That statement is clear as a bell. It is extremely obvious. I would have never suggested anything contrary to the utterly basic, simple truth.
Those who do not vote will not make a difference in who is elected. You understand that, right? So what is your confusion?
It's fucking hysterical!
Take a look at the Wildwood pictures.
trumps rally on saturday -
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100,000 people
Wrong..............I believe that is the aerial view of the LA Coliseum, capacity, 77,000
You just helped make JRs point.
105,000 capacity
no, you're wrong
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btw way tig is right, you were proving my point by claiming the football crowd was less than 100,000
92,000 in that case and i wasn't trying to disprove your point. Only that you claimed that picture depicted 100,000 No biggie
They’re just mad that Biden would be lucky to draw 1/10th those numbers ….. in a deep blue state.
I’d be mad with those numbers as well.
I couldnt care less about rally crowd sizes. unless they are a lie.
Your boy blue will be lucky to draw a church league softball game sized crowd.
So you’ve got no choice. None.
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The usual hive minded drone nonsense ignorance
True, the turnout would probably be much lower ….
That is not 100,000 people. Its not even close to 80,000.
The "estimate" was made by local MAGA friendly officials in the New Jersey town that is in a heavily pro Trump county.
Why don't the Trumpists just claim there were 1 million people there? Or "the largest crowd in the history of the universe"? It would all be as believable.
I’d guess closer to 40k.
A number Biden can only have wet dreams about …..
The point is, is that Biden is not getting the numbers that Trump is getting, not even close.
And, as you noted, the only numbers that matter are the actual votes.
One of trump's rallies. LOTS of empty seats.
Here are the independent reports:
LMAO!!!!
are those the jersey mountains in the background?
I think I see Snooki
Sometimes the jokes must just write themselves for his writers.
This shows you how gullible propagandists like Stone think the Republican base is. And he's not so wrong.
It's a picture of a Rod Stewart concert in the UK. You are correct, trump supporters are pretty gullible.
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Focusing on crowd size just leads to more wasted time and immaterial words. The focus should be on what is said during these events. Close your eyes and open your ears and then let us discuss what is truly important.
Sez the side who has trouble filling a church league softball bleacher ….
The gop did not even pass or publish a party platform in 2020 and the MAGA will not again this year because what they intend on doing is so extremely unpopular and is toxic to voters...
Goodness. How can my friend on the right be so off target?
That's one opinion.
Great googlie mooglies!
How can some on the left be in such denial?
Amazing!
What is your source, the DNC?
Yawn …. Why must you push such disengenuous garbage?
Add some substance to your weak sauce.
Low expectation of a fact check?
Nah, it’s a key component of the Democrat platform. Lie and gaslight your ass off and hope you catch some useful idiots.
Marxism 101
And as we see, the useful idiots believe it and spread it all over the internet for years.
Tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth ….,
from your link
RESOVLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention;
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention calls on the media to engage in
accurate and unbiased reporting, especially as it relates to the strong support of the RNC for
President Trump and his Administration; and
RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.
you are right JBB, tell them to pound salt
There is a fundamental tenet of the Republican platform that dates back years. Lie and gaslight your ass off, then lie again. That's what attracts right wing idiots. Right out of the Goebbels playbook.
Fascism 101.
Has trump released his policy ideas yet or is he still crying about 2020?
Yep, figures.
Looks like a platform to the most casual of observers
More garbage
It's a loyalty pledge to a cult leader totally devoid of policy positions or a statement of values. To the most casual observor, or the most sophisticated and engaged observor, it looks like a big nothing.
Nope