╌>

Son of a gun

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  6 months ago  •  108 comments

Son of a gun
“Also during this hearing, Judge Noreika noted that the deal provided to Hunter Biden was one of a kind. She pointedly asked the prosecutor if there has ever been a situation like this deal and the restrictions on the court’s ability to review the deal in other cases.


Today begins jury selection in another trial. It isn't a trial that was instigated by people who ran for DA to "get" a US citizen. It isn't a trial designed to destroy a political campaign. It is a trial that is the culmination of many years of "investigation." Some may argue that it is already tainted because the prosecutor allowed the more serious charges to slip away by marking time as the statute of limitations ran out. As we recently learned in Manhattan, the statute of limitations doesn't mean much anymore.


Are parts of this story salacious?

Let's see. The president's son cheated on his wife with numerous prostitutes. Then he cheated on his wife with his dead brother's widow. Then he cheated on his dead brother's widow with her sister. His brother's widow asked him to stay away from her niece. Then he impregnated a stripper and denied the child was his. He made a fortune selling his father's influence with many countries, some were US adversaries. He has an enormous crack cocaine addiction. Unlike the sham trial in New York; irrelevant salacious material will be denied to the prosecution in this case.

The focus of today's trial will be extremely narrow and focuses on the most minor offenses that Hunter Biden is accused of.  Hunter will face three criminal counts for allegedly buying a gun while in the throes of addiction to crack cocaine. The key evidence against him is contained in the infamous Hunter Biden Laptop, which the prosecution finally informs the nation is real. During the 2016 election that information was censored by the government and lied about by 51 "former intelligence officials."

Two witnesses who may testify against him are the mothers of five of the president’s grandchildren.

We almost never made it to this trial. Hunter Biden's lawyers and the so-called "prosecutors" appeared in the Wilmington courthouse for a hearing they hoped would lock in a ridiculous sweetheart deal. But instead, Judge Maryellen Noreika asked everyone concerned if they had ever heard of such a deal. Nobody could defend it, so the "prosecution" was forced to take the certified imbecil president's degenerate son to trial.



In other news:

The Biden administration expects Israel to go along with a framework proposal that Israel felt was far from complete. Benjamin Netanyahu wants Hamas to eliminate first.

China successfully landed a spacecraft on the far side of the moon.

The U.S., in a reversal of the usual flow of energy, is sending more electricity to Canada than Canada is sending here.

A wave of House members will not be seeking another term this year. Some say serving in Congress is demeaning.

The 9th Circuit Court ruled that Oregon must release all Defendents who don't have a lawyer. The 9th Circuit has a higher-than-average reversal rating.

Mexico just elected its first female & first Jewish President, Claudia Sheinbaum — the former mayor of Mexico City.

03themorning-nl-swap-jhkw-jumbo.jpg


Tags

jrDiscussion - desc
[]
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

Good morning.

GPJdCENWMAAL-fC?format=jpg&name=small
Ashely Biden arrives this morning at the courthouse in Wilmington, where her brother is coming for his trial.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 months ago
Today begins jury selection in another trial. It isn't a trial that was instigated by people who ran for DA to "get" a US citizen. It isn't a trial designed to destroy a political campaign. It is a trial that is the culmination of many years of investigation.

yeah, that trial is over and the jury has rendered it's verdict...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1    6 months ago

Not quite.

We have an election in November.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
1.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  devangelical @1.1    6 months ago

The orange jumpsuit is a nice touch.  Certain skin tones need to be accessorized carefully.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.2    6 months ago

at least his comb over isn't looking like a birdnest in the video, like it did during his trial...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1    6 months ago

This trial with Hunter is merely because his dad is Joe Biden, PRESIDENT Biden, and that's the only reason.  Revenge and retribution.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    6 months ago
This trial with Hunter is merely because his dad is Joe Biden, PRESIDENT Biden, and that's the only reason.  Revenge and retribution.

So you agree with critics of DoJ and think that it has been politicized.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    6 months ago

also way too thin - looks like it lost 100 pounds there

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
1.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    6 months ago

Hunter broke the law multiple times. A proven fact.

Democrats always think they are above the law; and only those they say are accountable to it.

Seems this time they might be wrong.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    6 months ago

Wrong.    

Hunter made false claims on the ATF form required to legally purchase a handgun.    A documented crime.

Anti gunners should be all over this and yet they aren’t.

SOP, hypocrisy, for many of my friends on the left.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.9  CB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.7    6 months ago

Wonder what you will think if/when the time comes President Biden decides to PARDON his son. It won't be political. It will be A PARDON.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.10  devangelical  replied to  CB @1.1.9    6 months ago

maga's will have forgotten all of trump's pardons of criminal associates by then ...

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
1.1.11  goose is back  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    6 months ago
This trial with Hunter is merely because his dad is Joe Biden

So you don't believe the gun laws should be enforced?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.12  CB  replied to  devangelical @1.1.10    6 months ago

Surely a pardon for a beloved son is better than a pardon for a complete stranger. . . surely MAGA will understand that if and when it is done and not stir up shit.  /s

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.7    6 months ago
Hunter broke the law multiple times. A proven fact.

Whew, you convinced me to not vote for Hunter.. Thanks! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

House Speaker Mike Johnson says Republicans are now investigating Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and Special Counsel Jack Smith for targeting political opponents.

Bragg and Matthew Colangelo have been called to appear before a House Committee.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    6 months ago

The revenge and retribution former 'presidential' campaign continues.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    6 months ago

Democrats are just upset Republicans are starting to show a little backbone for a change against the two tier justice system.

Democrats never expect to be held accountable for anything.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    6 months ago

Democrats never expect to be held accountable for anything.

While you still insist trump is completely innocent.. Sure, whatever ya need to tell yourself LOL 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago


Republican senators signed a public letter  to the White House on  Friday, vowing to prevent the upper chamber from accomplishing anything – from appropriations to confirmations – in the wake of former President Trump's guilty verdict. 

"As a Senate Republican conference, we are unwilling to aid and abet this White House in its project to tear this country apart," read a letter led by Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah. 

Republicans vow to upend Dem-led Senate after Trump's guilty verdict (msn.com)

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
3.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    6 months ago

I disagree with this, the work of the people should not be stopped. I didn't like it when Pelosi did it and stated she refused to hand Trump a win, and I don't like this now. Partisan politics should not be a weapon against the American people.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    6 months ago

You know what, I wish there were more like you, but those days appear to be over.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    6 months ago

BREAKING: JD Vance and other Senate Republicans Vow to BLOCK DOJ FUNDING, Biden Nominees: ‘We No Longer Cooperate’

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    6 months ago
Partisan politics should not be a weapon against the American people.

...

BREAKING: JD Vance and other Senate Republicans Vow to BLOCK DOJ FUNDING
 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @3.1.3    6 months ago

Democrats set the bar; Republicans are picking it up and beating them with it.

Democrats never think about the future consequences of their actions.

Seems like Republicans have finally had enough of Democrat BS. It is too little too late. They never should have let Democrats get started.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    6 months ago

Agreed, but it would be a meaningless effort considering the others sides complete disregard for the same

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

(deleted)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    6 months ago

You are right. I'm never voting for Hunter Biden again.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    6 months ago
You are right.

I usually am.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

Breaking: Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee announces pancreatic cancer diagnosis.

June 3 (UPI) -- Longtime U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee announced that she has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and will be missing certain dates in Congress for treatment.

Jackson Lee, D-Texas, made the announcement in a post on social media on Sunday.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee announces cancer diagnosis, will miss time for treatment (msn.com)


No comment.

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    6 months ago

Dont be a low life. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    6 months ago

Obviously, I took the high road.  Learn from it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    6 months ago

The high road would have been not mentioning the story at all,  and not mocking it with "no comment". 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    6 months ago

It is an important news story.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.3    6 months ago

more important than a former president being judged a convicted felon for the first time in american history?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.1.4    6 months ago

Today is Monday. We have new stories.

Don't tell us you only have one subject

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    6 months ago

the difference being that I can accept and live with the jury's verdict in hunter's trial...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    6 months ago
Learn from it.

You know they are just going to cry about itinstead.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.1.4    6 months ago

It's unprecedented.  Such sore losers.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.8    6 months ago

I guess the 8 year attempt to get hunter is a "new story" to some...

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.1.10  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    6 months ago

“Today is Monday. We have new stories.”

All anecdotal. All partisan. All offered in the ignorance and fear that define the times. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.10    6 months ago

I don't the origins of covid or how the medical experts handled it are anecdotal.

Nor is the trial of the son of a president who benefitted from influence peddling.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.11    6 months ago
the son of a president who benefitted from influence peddling

how about a son in law, would that count?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    6 months ago

it's sad when people suffer from life altering ailments, like watching a former president and current candidate descend into dementia...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @5.2    6 months ago

There you are John.

You were saying...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    6 months ago

You "reported" that someone you likely believe to be a communist has a possibly fatal illness, and then mockingly said "no comment". It is what it is Vic.  Your daily bs is transparent. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    6 months ago

I said nothing about her being "a Communist." As a matter of fact, I said nothing at all about her personally.

A sharp contrast to what some on the left have said about people who just died.

You have a lot to learn about virtue.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.4  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.3    6 months ago

Virtue signaling is a no-no for (religious) MAGAs, and I am pretty sure you know this.  If you don't have genuine concern for all of the living maybe reserve 'signaling' about the dead until you can fix the other, in my opinion.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

It won't go away lefties.

Hunter is on trial.

GPGYflPXEAAHbWS?format=png&name=small

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    6 months ago

wgaf

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    6 months ago

The people on the left.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    6 months ago

No.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    6 months ago

John is correct, as he usually is, we don't gaf, it is the right who do

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    6 months ago

Brandon will give a fuck if Hunter rolls over on him in order to avoid prison.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    6 months ago
wgaf

The right wing propagandists who post articles and comments about it.  They seem to think it's the most important thing that ever happened.  Of course, if some right winger or anti-American militia freak was charged with the same crimes the shrieking about "2nd Amendment rights" from them would deafening.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Gsquared @6.1.5    6 months ago
Of course, if some right winger or anti-American militia freak was charged with the same crimes the shrieking about "2nd Amendment rights" from them would deafening.

Nope, you are wrong.    Break the law you should pay the price.   Everyone, equally.    No exceptions.

Next …..

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    6 months ago

it won't go away trumpsters.

trump is a convicted felon.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  devangelical @6.2    6 months ago

The little boy project?    
Hilarious!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    6 months ago
Hunter is on trial.

So?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
6.3.1  afrayedknot  replied to  MrFrost @6.3    6 months ago

And of course for consistency sake, let every would be gun owner be held to the same level of scrutiny. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
6.3.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @6.3.1    6 months ago
And of course for consistency sake, let every would be gun owner/drug user be held to the same level of scrutiny, no? 

Yes, why have the law if there is little interest in enforcement.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago

Here is another thing the left doesn't want to hear.

Right now, Dr Fauci is testifying before a House committee.

Democrats are trying to cover for him.

AA1mF85w.img?w=768&h=511&m=6&x=92&y=92&s=575&d=247

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    6 months ago

oh look, trump supporters are trying to revise the historical incompetence of pandemic mismanagement by trump...

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
7.1.1  George  replied to  devangelical @7.1    6 months ago

So if trump mismanaged it and got his results, how do you explain Biden with the Benefit of Vaccines and treatments his entire presidency still killing off more Americans than trump did.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.2  devangelical  replied to  George @7.1.1    6 months ago
how do you explain Biden with the Benefit of Vaccines and treatments his entire presidency still killing off more Americans than trump did

does the term contagious virus mean anything to you?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
7.1.3  George  replied to  devangelical @7.1.2    6 months ago

It means even given tools trump never had Biden managed fuck everything up more than the idiot trump. How fucking stupid do you have to be to support a failure like that? Someone stupider than trump.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.1    6 months ago

Oh, that was the selling point of the media. Trump followed every suggestion Dr Fauci ever made.

Today we found out that Dr Fauci was a pretty slick customer. From the moment the outbreak happened he realized that any investigation of the Wuhan lab might find his fingerprints all over it.

(Reuters) - The former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said he believes the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 likely escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China, embracing a theory rejected by many global epidemiologists that has contributed to tensions between China and the West.

"I still think the most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," Robert Redfield, who headed the CDC in the Trump administration, said in a televised interview with CNN.

Former CDC chief Redfield says he thinks COVID-19 originated in a Chinese lab | Reuters

And now finally:

At long last, National Institutes of Health (NIH) principal deputy director Lawrence Tabak admitted to Congress Thursday that US taxpayers funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China in the months and years before the COVID-19 pandemic.

NIH official finally admits taxpayers funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan — after years of denials (msn.com)
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8  Hal A. Lujah    6 months ago

It’s good to know that now everyone who lies on an application to obtain a firearm will now be prosecuted vigorously.  Oh, wait …

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    6 months ago

I wanted him on tax evasion.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
8.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    6 months ago

I would hope so...........if, like Hunter, they get caught.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.2    6 months ago

It happens all the time and no, prosecution is extremely rare.  You’d know this if you’d change the channel once in a while.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.1    6 months ago
It happens all the time and no, prosecution is extremely rare.

You mean like charging a misdemeanor as a felony?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.2    6 months ago

It’s a shame that all the armchair attorneys here like yourself aren’t allowed honorary passage of the bar and the opportunity to oversee court cases everywhere you feel that justice was not served.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.3    6 months ago

You can't answer my question so you opt for the personal attack.  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.4    6 months ago

You’re not an attorney and your armchair opinions aren’t even worth discussing.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.5    6 months ago
You’re not an attorney

As far as you know.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.6    6 months ago

Are you trying to imply that you are an attorney?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @8.2.7    6 months ago

Whether I am or not is irrelevant.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.9  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @8.2.7    6 months ago

No, but I am a Fudge Advocate and once I judged the 4-H Speech Contest and the pumpkins and gourds at the County Fair! 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8.2.10  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.8    6 months ago

No, it is not irrelevant. Not irrelevant at all. Ask "The Bar"...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.2.11  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.8    6 months ago

You are not.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @8.2.11    6 months ago

As far as you know.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.2.13  Ronin2  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.3    6 months ago

It is a real shame that all of the leftist arm chair quarterbacks here that pretend to know the law; or even care about it unless it is being used against someone they don't like; don't have bobble heads made in their likenesses. The bobbleheads opinions would matter just as much; and would be based in the law just as deeply. They could even be made to nod or shake in unison.

If on more person tries to pass Braggs charges/indictment off as a factual interpretation of the law- they should be forced to go to law school and pass the bar just the learn that states don't have the right to prosecute federal law!

The FEC has exclusive jurisdiction over the civil enforcement of the federal campaign finance law.

Considering possible election law violations

Enforcement cases can come from audits, complaints, referrals or self-submissions:

  • Audits:   The agency’s monitoring process may detect potential violations through a review of a committee’s reports or through a Commission audit.
  • Complaints:   Potential violations may be brought to the Commission’s attention through the complaint process. This process enables anyone to file a sworn complaint alleging violations and explaining the basis for the allegations.
  • Referrals:   The referral process enables other government agencies to refer possible violations to the FEC.
  • Self-submissions:   Any person or entity who believes it has committed a violation may bring the matter sua sponte to the Commission’s attention.

Audits of political committees

Generally, the Commission audits a committee under two circumstances:

  1. When a committee participates in publicly financed presidential campaigns, or
  2. When it appears that a committee has not met substantial compliance for reporting.

The FEC, who has exclusive jurisdiction, chose not to charge Trump; but New York thought it could?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.5    6 months ago

all the armchair attorneys here graduated from trumpU

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @8.2.13    6 months ago

Ridiculous.   We are watching Trump supporters bend over backwards trying to deny the fact that Trump has been found legally guilty of felonies.

  • You deny allegations and ask where is the indictment.
  • When an indictment arrives you ask for proof.
  • When a guilty verdict is delivered you cry foul.

It is pathetic.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @8.2.15    6 months ago

What's pathetic is watching the Biden supporters bend over backwards trying to justify what circumventing was outlined in 8.2.13

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
8.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.16    6 months ago

Is that all you have to offer ... rephrasing my criticism using a Pee Wee Herman 'I know you are but what am I' pattern?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.2.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @8.2.17    6 months ago

I'm pointing out the obvious that you apparently can't see or are willfully ignoring.  Not my problem if you don't like it.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.2.19  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @8.2.13    6 months ago
states don't have the right to prosecute federal law!

They didn't. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.3  Ronin2  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    6 months ago

A little research will show many have been.

Hunter being charged isn't unique in any way shape or form.

His sweetheart plea deal that fell through was.

So was Weiss allowing the statute of limitations to run out on the most serious of tax evasion charges.

How many other people would have had the same federal government courtesy extended to them?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
8.3.1  evilone  replied to  Ronin2 @8.3    6 months ago
Hunter being charged isn't unique in any way shape or form.

They can put him in the same prison cell as Trump for all I care... Hahahaha! Fuck 'em all.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  evilone @8.3.1    6 months ago

If only that were the case.

Unfortunately Bill, Hillary, Obama, and Brandon still walking free and clear prove otherwise.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
8.3.3  evilone  replied to  Ronin2 @8.3.2    6 months ago
Unfortunately Bill, Hillary, Obama, and Brandon still walking free and clear prove otherwise.

No one has brought forth evidence of criminal wrong doing by Bill, Hillary, Obama or Biden. Not for lack of trying by those same people who keep crying about 'lawfare' though.

We can determine at least one of three things here... One - The Clinton's, Obama and Biden are so smart they masterfully hid all their crimes so well a decade of digging couldn't find anything but conjecture. Two - The incompetence of everyone looking for those crimes makes Larry, Curly, Shemp and Moe look like MESA members. Three - their only 'crime' is having a D (and not an R) after their names. 

Until someone actually convinces a grand jury to indict them I'll have to go with option no three. You guys can let me know when that happens.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
9  Nerm_L    6 months ago

So, Democrats are prosecuting felonies as misdemeanors and Democrats are prosecuting misdemeanors as felonies.  I can hardly wait to see how the case against Bob Menendez turns out.

In news ignored by most and denied by those of a certain partisan persuasion, OPEC+ has voted to continue the squeeze on oil production; will Biden grovel again?  EV manufacturers are beginning to drop like flies; amazing how corporate mismanagement is China's fault.  No worries, Biden is going to tariff the industry into good corporate governance.  Cruise ships are experiencing a resurgence in slacker tourism.  Boeing may have found a way to save itself with spacecraft that never fly; NASA seems pleased with the results.  Space Command headquarters has been located in Colorado Springs; legal weed will allow them to fly high.  And, finally, tornados do not respect wind turbines -- who knew?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago


REPORT:
Dr. Fauci , who is accused of lying under oath, admits he made up cov*d rules including social distancing & masks for children despite not having scientific data to back it up.

GPFRmvobAAApSyo?format=png&name=small

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11  author  Vic Eldred    6 months ago


Chairman Brad Wenstrup reminds us of all the ways Americans were punished for daring to push back on or question Dr. Fauci’s recommendations :

"Any dissent...was immediately labeled as anti-science. Anything less than complete submission to the mandates could cost you your livelihood, your ability to go into public, your child's ability to attend school...Dr. Fauci, you oversaw one of the most invasive regimes of domestic policy the U.S. has ever seen."

Townhall.com on X: "Chairman Brad Wenstrup reminds us of all the ways Americans were punished for daring to push back on or question Dr. Fauci’s recommendations: "Any dissent...was immediately labeled as anti-science. Anything less than complete submission to the mandates could cost you your https://t.co/ctfdjQO76u" / X

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    6 months ago

Dr. Fauci, and all the other doctors, were trying to limit or end the transmission of a possibly deadly infectious disease.  Whether it was 5 ft or 6ft or 7 ft is immaterial.  If there was no social distancing at all the spread of covid would have been much worse, and some victims would have died who could have been spared through social distancing. The doctors did the best they could.  The political right did the best they could to delegitimize efforts to limit the spread. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1    6 months ago

I cannot believe that Dr. Fauci is on trial.  What the hell for????  Of course, it's by the gqp, so of course there is no reason.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
11.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1    6 months ago

“I don’t agree with the tone and sort of breathlessness” behind Wenstrup and other Republicans’ questions, said Holden Thorp, editor of the journal Science. “At the same time, I think that the scientific community has made a number of mistakes that don’t look super good for us all … [and] that have made it easier for them to make this case.”

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
11.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.1    6 months ago

It is an investigation not a trial.

The House can move to impeach Fauci; but at this point it would be rather worthless since he no longer works for the government. Also Democrats control the senate- they won't even bring a House bill to the floor that actually addresses border security. What makes anyone think they would bother to take up a trial for any impeachment the House puts forth? 

Fauci has lied repeatedly to the House. They are trying to get Fauci to lie himself into being charged. With Garland running the DOJ that will never happen. He only charges Republicans, former Trump administration officials, Jan 6th rioters- even those that never entered the capitol now, and parents that have the temerity to question what their children are taught in schools.

Party before country always for the left.

Fauci made millions from Covid and contracting gain of function research overseas. The fact that it bit the whole world in the ass doesn't seem to matter to leftists.  

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1    6 months ago
The doctors did the best they could. 

One thing they could have done is not fund gain of function research in China.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12  George    6 months ago

Fauci should go down in history as one of the most prolific mass murders in history. up there with Stalin and Hitler.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1  JohnRussell  replied to  George @12    6 months ago

What a spectacularly ridiculous thing to say. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.1.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1    6 months ago

Fauci funding the plague that killed millions John, he paid for Covid to be developed and lacked control of his monster. anything else is left wing bullshit, I don't blame Obama for this happening under his watch, but Fauci is absolutely responsible, and the proof is he lied to cover it up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  George @12.1.1    6 months ago
Murder is the  unlawful killing  of another  human  without  justification  or valid  excuse   committed with the necessary  intention   as defined by the law in a specific  jurisdiction

would you like to change what you said ?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.1.3  George  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.2    6 months ago

No, Fauci paid for a plague designed to kill millions. Period.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
12.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.2    6 months ago
He doesn't need to.

You do know that there are different degree of murder right?

https://manshoorylaw.com/blog/difference-between-1st-2nd-and-3rd-degree-murders/#:~:text=First%2Ddegree%20murders%20are%20the,still%20result%20in%20serious%20sentences .

This guide has shown   what is 1st 2nd and 3rd degree murders , and after understanding the unique aspects of each one, it’s much simpler to find the differences between them. The main   differences are the severity of the crime itself and the severity of the punishment received . First-degree murders are the most serious and punished accordingly , involving premeditated murder and intentional murder.   Second-degree murders are the next step down but still involve intent to harm or to kill .   Third-degree murders are the lowest level of criminal homicide   but can still result in serious sentences.

Murder   is the act of causing the death of another person without legal justification or excuse. The U.S. federal code and most state codes distinguish between different degrees of murder, though state codes differ in how many degrees are recognized (one, two, or three) and how the degrees are defined. In general, however, an act of murder falls under the category of first degree if one or more of the following elements are present:

(1) The perpetrator intended to cause the death of the victim or someone else (malice aforethought, or mens rea), and the perpetrator formed a plan to cause the victim’s death or that of someone else or thought about that outcome for at least a minimum amount of time (premeditation).

(2) The perpetrator caused the death of the victim while committing or attempting to commit any of a range of serious felonies, usually including burglary, robbery, rape, child abuse, arson, and kidnapping, among others. Some states, however, classify such “felony murders” as murder in the second degree.

(3) The victim was a police officer or other law-enforcement official; the perpetrator killed the victim in a particularly gruesome fashion, such as by poison or torture; the perpetrator ambushed the victim; or the perpetrator killed more than one person.

Jump straight to Third degree murder. Emphasis on the killed more than one person.

If nothing else Fauci could be charged with millions of cases of negligent homicide.

.

In law, few things are as complex and severe as negligent homicide. This term refers to accidentally causing someone’s death because of careless actions.

Unlike planned murder or voluntary manslaughter, negligent homicide usually happens because someone wasn’t careful enough rather than intending harm.

Understanding Negligent Homicide

Negligent homicide is basically the absence of proper care, leading to death. It happens when someone doesn’t do their job or allows treacherous circumstances to exist, and someone dies.

Certain key elements must be proven to establish negligent homicide:

  1. Duty of Care : The first element involves demonstrating that the accused owed a duty of care to the victim. This duty typically arises from legal obligations or responsibilities, such as those between a driver and other road users or a healthcare professional and their patients.
  2. Breach of Duty : The next element requires showing that the accused breached this duty of care by failing to act as a reasonable person would under similar circumstances. This breach could involve actions taken (e.g., reckless driving) or actions not taken (e.g., failure to provide necessary medical treatment).
  3. Causation : It must be demonstrated that the breach of duty directly caused the death of the victim. This requires proving that the careless actions or omissions were a substantial factor in the fatality.
  4. Foreseeability : Another aspect often considered is whether the outcome was foreseeable. In other words, could a reasonable person have anticipated that their actions or negligence might lead to someone’s death? Foreseeability helps determine the level of culpability and whether the accused should have taken steps to prevent harm.
  5. Death : Negligent homicide requires the death of another person because of the defendant’s actions or omissions. Without the loss of life, the charge of negligent homicide would not apply.
There are different classifications of negligent homicide, each encompassing a different offense.

Fauci has also lied to Congress several times in testimony; but that only seems to matter when Democrats claim it does.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
13  Sparty On    6 months ago

This is hilarious.    Watching folks here who are normally rabid anti gun advocates, defending an illegal act related to guns.

Shameless, absolutely shameless be they …..

 
 

Who is online

Bob Nelson
fineline
GregTx


213 visitors