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A chaotic G-7 Summit

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  4 weeks ago  •  241 comments

A chaotic G-7 Summit


It began with Joe Biden awkwardly kissing Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni on the forehead, seemingly sniffing her hair and then saluting her as he shuffled off. Later during a power shoot, Biden began wandering around and as people looked on uncomfortably, Italy's Prime Minister escorted him back to the group. When it was time for his little joint speech wit Ukraine leader Zelinsky, Joe got distracted by a plane flying overhead. After making a mockery of his own speech, Biden accepted questions from 4 designated reporters. (2 from the US and 2 from Ukraine) He got angry at one reporter from Bloomberg who actually dared to ask a question that was off script. Reporters were evidently only supposed to ask questions approved by the Biden White House.


The only issue that Biden felt was pressing was his little proxy war with Russia. After sleepwalking Ukraine in the beginning, Joe seems prepared to allow Ukraine to have anything they ask for as he puts handcuffs on Israel. Still no word from anyone on US hostages. Thus far $174 billion has gone to Ukraine and $12.5 billion has gone to Israel. For the radical base which runs the democrat party and Joe Biden, nothing should be given to Israel. Those are the people that hate the American system, the country and its people.

Biden demanded abortion be included in the language:


"Under a tentative agreement, this year’s language will not explicitly mention the word abortion, which Meloni may count as a win. However, it will restate the G-7’s endorsement of last year’s agreement, which did use that term. It will also say that the G-7 leaders support universal health-care access for women, including comprehensive sexual and reproductive health rights.

Biden’s aides said the explicit reiteration of support for last year’s communiqué — issued when the leaders met in Hiroshima, Japan — will amount to a broad international embrace of abortion rights.

“The president felt very strongly that we needed to have at the very least the language that references what we did in Hiroshima on women’s health and reproductive rights,” said a senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing talks. “The communiqué will have, will reiterate, the commitment made in Hiroshima.”

Biden presses to keep reproductive rights in G-7 agreement (msn.com)


That is why Joe Biden must be voted out of office.

Meanwhile former President Trump was warmly greeted on Capitol Hill.

The GOP is united at long last.



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

I think Meloni won on the language.

The American people will win when they remove Biden.

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Snuffy
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1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 weeks ago

One thing I heard yesterday is that Biden has the highest approval rating among most of those leaders. Many of them could be gone from the next meeting.

  • Biden's 37% approval rating positively sparkles next to Canadian PM Justin Trudeau (30%), German Chancellor Olaf Scholz (25%), U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak (25%), French President Emmanuel Macron (21%) and Japanese PM Fumio Kishida (13%), per Morning Consult's   tracker .

G7 summit: Biden, Trudeau and other unpopular leaders gather in Italy (axios.com)

 
 
 
CB
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1.2  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 weeks ago

 A very nice picture indeed!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  CB @1.2    4 weeks ago

I prefer that to the one of the traitor #34 at the Capitol with all of his ass kissing republicon servants

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

How anyone pretends this is acceptable is beyond me.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    4 weeks ago

... in contrast to supporting a 34x convicted felon?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @2.1    4 weeks ago

I. JUST.  DON'T.  GET.  IT.

PLUS THE PROJECTION IS JUST . . .jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

STACCATO?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago
Later during a power shoot, Biden began wandering around and as people looked on uncomfortably, Italy's Prime Minister escorted him back to the group

Utter, dishonest, nonsense. 

We are at the point where nothing these people say about Biden can be trusted.  They are in the "at all costs" mode because they know how mentally and morally unfit Trump is to lead the nation.  RNC Research , a twitter group, is an official arm of the Trump campaign. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 weeks ago
They are in the "at all costs" mode because they know how mentally and morally unfit Trump is to lead the nation.

And there's the obligatory "but Trruuummmmppppp" comment. Gotta keep distracting from the embarrassment the Democrats and left make pathetic excuses for.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    4 weeks ago

The seeded article is based almost completely on lies.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    4 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.2    4 weeks ago

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CB
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3.1.4  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1    4 weeks ago

I do my best to test the written statements some MAGAs share here every day. Low credibility. No credibility. Get Daniel Dale (CNN fact-checker) on my line!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.1.4    4 weeks ago
MAGAs

Another obligatory "but Trruuummmmppppp" comment.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 weeks ago

#34 is a batshit crazy demented ranting raving lunatic but you're correct John, they must protect the mental midget at all costs

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.3  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 weeks ago
Utter, dishonest, nonsense.

Agreed. it was on TV in the office all day yesterday, nothing remotely like Vic's "interpretation".

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @3.3    4 weeks ago

Apulian food, beautiful location.

5 star hotel with 6 restaurants including one with a Michelin star, spa and several pools.  The eye candy is nice and non-fattening as well.

Give me that chaos every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.3    4 weeks ago

the rupert murdoch version of the news...

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.3.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Split Personality @3.3    4 weeks ago

“…Vic's "interpretation".”

As weak as his incessant and heartless interpolations…

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @3.3.3    4 weeks ago

Too strong for the lefties, evidently.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.4    4 weeks ago

We prefer the truth.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.6  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.4    4 weeks ago
Too strong for the lefties

nah, too fascist...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 weeks ago

Take a good look at it:

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4    4 weeks ago

your game is up vic. 

look at the comments you are getting

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.1    4 weeks ago

I'm supposed to get those comments from the radical left.

Yes John, I am against everything you stand for.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4    4 weeks ago
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.2    4 weeks ago

almost every day your "weekly" column is filled with lies.  This is just the latest example. The New York Post is lying about what happened. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.4.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.3    4 weeks ago

Why do New Yorkers keep buying this shit?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.3    4 weeks ago

No thanks John. The New York Post ran a true story on the Hunter Laptop, and it was censored.

FACT John.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.4    4 weeks ago

I tell the truth and I back it up as I did here.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.4.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.4    4 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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3.4.9  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.6    4 weeks ago

I don't know if any true Bidenista will ever admit that the laptop never was anything to do with Russia, just sycophants trying to save Biden's ass.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.9    4 weeks ago

They discard facts.  One claims to be waiting for them to come in.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.7    4 weeks ago
I back it up as I did here.

you must be joking

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.11    4 weeks ago

The film doesn't lie.

Now tell us he walked off to shake hands with somebody...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.12    4 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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3.4.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.12    4 weeks ago
Now tell us he walked off to shake hands with somebody...

He took a couple steps to give some soldiers the "thumbs up" sign. 

Meloni didnt put her hands on him because he was "wandering". She was ready to line them all up for the group picture and Bidens back was turned, and she wanted to let him know they were lining up for the photo. 

For gods sake man, get a grip. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.14    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.15    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.16    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.4.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.4    4 weeks ago
almost every day your "weekly" column is filled with lies.

And almost every day you fail to prove this "weekly" column as lies.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.17    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.19    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.20    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.4.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4    4 weeks ago

He couldn't seem to find the guy in the sky either.

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Sean Treacy
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3.4.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4    4 weeks ago

They now deny literal video.  It’s like watching a cult at work, 

next they’ll say Biden shot a 25 for 18 holes at Augusta national (not on video of course) and call Anyone who dispute their claims a conspiracy theorist.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.24  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.23    4 weeks ago

Now everyone should understand why Biden must be voted out in November.

It goes beyond Biden.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.4.25  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.23    4 weeks ago

800

As Meloni starts to organize the group photo she notices that Biden has his back turned and goes to him and takes his arm to let him know it is time for the picture. The other world leaders still have not faced the camera for the group photo. This is exactly 10 seconds after Meloni noticed the camera man was ready. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.26  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.23    4 weeks ago

'They now deny literal video It's like watching a cult at work'

[] 'WOW'

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.27  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.23    4 weeks ago

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TᵢG
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3.4.28  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.24    4 weeks ago

The problem is that the GOP has put forth a convicted felon who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.

One should take that into consideration.   Instead we tend to see GOP loyalists ignore everything bad by Trump and absurdly exaggerate every action by Biden.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.4.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.25    4 weeks ago

Why not post the whole video?  Trying to pull a Nancy Pelosi?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.30  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.28    4 weeks ago
One should take that into consideration. 

Many have. Some won't vote, others who didn't like Trump will vote for him now because of it.

The one thing I'm certain of is that conviction will eventually be overturned.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.4.31  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.28    4 weeks ago
The problem is that the GOP has put forth a convicted felon who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.

The only thing you have correct in that statement is the convicted felon part. The rest, has yet to be proven. FYI, you opinion isn't proof.

Instead we tend to see GOP loyalists ignore everything bad by Trump and absurdly exaggerate every action by Biden.[]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.32  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.17    4 weeks ago

what is supposed to be "awkward" about it?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.33  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.32    4 weeks ago

Saluting a female Prime Minister, or kissing her on the head?

Which is it?

 
 
 
CB
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3.4.34  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4    4 weeks ago

Let's not be ridiculous. This is right-winger added commentary. Apparently, people have parachuted down and landed and are folding their chutes. President Biden is giving a thumbs up to somebody or some group of people out of frame, and finally a lady (not sure whom she is) let's him know (like unscripted events do happen at any occasion for any of us) there is something else the leaders are focused on in the moment; maybe a(nother) round of camera shots.

This OBSESSION with trying to make old people look more older or even sickly than is routine is now the expected norm for insensitive some MAGAs. This. . .will carry on through November, I guess. Of course, it is not the 'job' of some MAGAs to point out the failings of their own leader (who I am sure is somewhere lying his backside off, because well he is a proliferating liar). That is why liberals have to point out his deficiencies. 

Alas, the game continues.

We have two elderly mature candidates this year. . . and that's the way it is. Like it or lump it. We all will watch one or the other ELDERLY PRESIDENTS age farther in office.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.35  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.32    4 weeks ago

President Reagan Hugs President Portillo

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was reagan groping this man ?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.4.36  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.33    4 weeks ago

he didnt kiss her at all. maybe you dint watch your own video. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.4.37  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.35    4 weeks ago

Dig him up, let's ask!!!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.4.38  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4.29    4 weeks ago

the "whole video" has been posted on this seed, a few times. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.4.39  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.28    4 weeks ago
One should take that into consideration. 

It may very well be taken into some consideration.  Some won't vote for Trump because of it and some don't think it raises up to voting for Joe.  And some will vote party because they don't like what the other party is doing to the country.

It happens on both sides.  Only a partisan would think only one side exaggerates what the other side is doing while playing down their side. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3.4.40  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.38    4 weeks ago

And yet you cherry picked this ONE moment.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.4.41  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @3.4.34    4 weeks ago
This is right-winger added commentary.

I prefer to be called "reactionary."


 Apparently, people have parachuted down and landed and are folding their chutes. President Biden is giving a thumbs up to somebody or some group of people out of frame, and finally a lady (not sure whom she is) let's him know (like unscripted events do happen at any occasion for any of us) there is something else the leaders are focused on in the moment; maybe a(nother) round of camera shots.

Why not just admit that he is totally spaced out there. If the DNC decides to convince him to quit the ticket, will you still be defending him? I don't think so.


This OBSESSION with trying to make old people look more older or even sickly than is routine is now the expected norm for insensitive some MAGAs. This. . .will carry on through November, I guess. Of course, it is not the 'job' of some MAGAs to point out the failings of their own leader (who I am sure is somewhere lying his backside off, because well he is a proliferating liar). That is why liberals have to point out his deficiencies. 

Biden does not represent "liberals," he represents the radical left. I don't care how dysfunctional he has become. It is those terrible policies he saddled the country with. He must be defeated, and all the democrats must also be defeated with him.


Alas, the game continues.

The longest campaign ever.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.42  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.38    4 weeks ago
Alas, the game continues.

And it seems...to no avail.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.43  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.35    4 weeks ago

Weak, John.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.4.44  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.17    4 weeks ago
It began with Joe Biden awkwardly kissing Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni on the forehead,

another lie from the seeded article

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.4.45  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.43    4 weeks ago

Your daily "column" here is an absolute joke. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.4.46  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.15    4 weeks ago

For God's sake he took several steps towards a service member and gave him a thumb's up sign.

He could very well have been talking to that guy when she tugged his sleeve to have their pictures taken.

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.47  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.45    4 weeks ago

I think you proved it to be right on the mark.

I can't thank you enough.

If you're ever in Boston, the drinks are on me.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.4.48  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3.4.46    4 weeks ago

You don't want to hear from someone who has hateful opinions.

Its best we go our separate ways.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.4.49  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.24    4 weeks ago

You are correct, it seems to be mass hysteria over NOTHING but your world view.

It goes beyond Biden.

To ageism and partisan ignorance?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.4.50  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.48    4 weeks ago
Its best we go our separate ways

Please don't tease us with promises you never keep.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.4.51  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.6    4 weeks ago

Even a broken clock is correct once or twice a day.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.4.52  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.25    4 weeks ago

Here's the Sun's political editor:

evealing the growing concerns in diplomatic circles, Sun political editor Harry Cole told our Never Mind the Ballots show: “H e ducked out for dinner last night… But my sources, diplomatic sources here, say it is the worst they’ve ever seen Joe Biden, and he’s in a bad way.
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“He was wandering around, he sort of wandered off and Giorgia Meloni, the Italian premier had to sort of guide him back to the crowd. It was quite painful viewing.

“Everyone’s putting a slight brave face on it this morning. We’ve got some more for that for the paper tomorrow. But you can see from that footage yourself, can’t you?

“This is getting embarrassing now. It makes you really wonder how President Biden is going to be able to run an election campaign in October and November for re election and if that is a man who really thinks he’s going to get through the next four years?”

As this person noted, we've seen that look before.

Just keep pretending Joe has so much energy his 30 year old staffers can't keep up with him (but only when there are no camera's around, of course)

There's literally no amount of evidence that will convince the true believes that a 78 year old man is slipping mentally.

Remember how the media treated a relatively youthful Bob Dole in 96? Funny to look back on some of those clips, given the current media cheerleading.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.4.53  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.52    4 weeks ago

I not only looked at the RNC/NY post video, I broke it down for you. 

“He was wandering around, he sort of wandered off and Giorgia Meloni, the Italian premier had to sort of guide him back to the crowd. It was quite painful viewing.

I dont care what British tabloid this appeared in. It is a lie. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.4.54  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.52    4 weeks ago
Here's the Sun's political editor:

Still blindly trusting Murdoch?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.4.55  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.4.39    4 weeks ago
It happens on both sides. 

Of course it does;  but you (of course) miss the point.

Vic spoke of voting out Biden so I noted that the problem with voting out Biden is that gives Trump the presidency.   Follow the context.  

Since you misrepresented what I wrote, here it is again (read it in context of the comment to which I replied):

TiG @3.4.28 ☞ The problem is that the GOP has put forth a convicted felon who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   One should take that into consideration.   Instead we tend to see GOP loyalists ignore everything bad by Trump and absurdly exaggerate every action by Biden.

One cannot vote out Biden without voting in a convicted felon and traitor who is the only PotUS to attempt to steal a presidential election.

Some won't vote for Trump because of it and some don't think it raises up to voting for Joe.  And some will vote party because they don't like what the other party is doing to the country.

Yes, some will vote party no matter what.   Even if that means putting Trump (felon, traitor, irresponsible, loose-cannon, narcissist, asshole) back in office.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
3.4.56  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.41    4 weeks ago
Biden does not represent "liberals," he represents the radical left.

This is akin to saying Trump does not represent 'republicans', he represents the radical right. Try harder, it stinks of amature revisionism.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.4.57  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.55    4 weeks ago

Nice rant.  Unfortunately it in no way actually responds to the point I was making, probably because it was more important to once again give a list of Trumps transgressions.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.4.58  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @3.4.46    4 weeks ago

For God's sake toddlers walk better than Biden does!

Every last movement he makes is slow, tired, mechanical, and painful as hell to watch!

Yet here everyone on the left is still defending the piece of trash just because he isn't Trump!

That BS worked in 2020; but it is 2024 now and Biden has his for shit record he and the Democrats can't run on!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.4.59  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @3.4.58    4 weeks ago

People see these videos.  And they are truly bad, but  the refusal of so many progressives  and their captive media  to acknowledge the reality of the issue makes them so much more damaging.   The overwhelming majority of Americans see them on social media and are horrified, while the  true believers just live in some alternate reality where these videos are all hoaxes.

then they get angry and confused when they see trump is winning in states where he has no business winning, like Virginia and Minnesota. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.60  CB  replied to  Hallux @3.4.54    4 weeks ago

I was thinking the other day about all the hell Murdoch is creating in this country (and others). In a way, he is the fount that has sprung up other sources of division and crawling hatred across the country. Conservatism may have existed in its proper lane without exceeding it had Murdoch not arrived and grifted some conservatives with a new national outlet/'voice.' 

To be clear, our history shows there has always been some conservatives voices (mostly democrat at that time) that wished to lock-in some conservative SUPREMACY which belongs to a bygone era then and now (mostly republicans at this time).

Murdoch has been permitted to grift the citizens of our country for too long with his Fox News Channel.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.4.61  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.55    4 weeks ago

A succinct answer as to why someone would think that voting for a candidate so obviously addled, for whatever reason, is their choice. Given the choices we have, I don't think letting the blind lead the blind is gonna be popular. Even if the "other" is the anti-christ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.62  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.4.61    4 weeks ago

The choices are set.   It is either Trump or Biden.   That is it.   Barring an extraordinary event, one of those two will be PotUS.

If you see a difference between the two in terms of what is best for the nation, then consider voting for the better of the two.   Seems like a very rational way to vote.

Those who cannot discern a difference are not paying attention ... at all.

One can always not vote for either but in doing so one is letting others decide which of the two is better for the nation.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.63  CB  replied to  Ronin2 @3.4.58    4 weeks ago

Biden is not hired for his steps. He is hired for his 'big brain' coupled with his empathy for all the citizenry.

BTW, the great FDR served as president  with polio  ravishing his body. He served three terms and developed other chronic maladies: like reduced lung capacity (probably from all the prior presidential years of standing up with the aid of others and steel braces). 

How FDR Became the First—And Only—President to Serve Four Terms
Before the 22nd Amendment, presidents could run for more than two terms—but only FDR managed to win more than two consecutive elections.

Indeed, FDR is the reason why there is a cap on presidential terms of two-terms. He being a disabled America too!

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.4.64  GregTx  replied to  CB @3.4.63    4 weeks ago
Biden is not hired for his steps. He is hired for his 'big brain' coupled with his empathy for all the citizenry.

Riiiggghhhttt.... he's been abysmal on the border. How many people have died trying to cross? What was it he said?... something about Americans have the money to spend? Empathy???

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.4.65  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.62    4 weeks ago

The United States now has a highly functional government that is successfully leading the world economically post-Covid while America is winning the worldwide battle for freedom against the forces of violent religious fananatism and Putin's expansionism.

And WINNING!

original

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.66  CB  replied to  GregTx @3.4.64    4 weeks ago
Riiiggghhhttt.... he's been abysmal on the border.

After this election win by Biden, surely republicans will get onboard with fixing the abysmal border problem. Something they just could not bring themselves to get onboard after Donald directed them to not work with Biden. Now it's a timing matter.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.67  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.4.64    4 weeks ago
... he's been abysmal on the border.

True.   So a correctable policy failure is enough to cause you to vote for a convicted felon, traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole for PotUS?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.68  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.67    4 weeks ago

Biden didn't even acknowledge there was a border crisis until his poll numbers declined even among Democrats.

What policy do you contend Biden has?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.69  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.66    4 weeks ago

Biden ignored the border for 3 years 

it is foolish to blame Trump and the GOP for Biden's failures 

Not that that will stop progressive liberals from continuing to try to deflect.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.70  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.68    4 weeks ago
Biden didn't even acknowledge there was a border crisis until his poll numbers declined even among Democrats.

Yeah, I know.   Not the point and never suggested otherwise.   

What does "correctable policy failure" mean to you?

The question (and point) was:  

A correctable policy failure is enough to cause you to vote for a convicted felon, traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole for PotUS?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.71  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.70    4 weeks ago

It seems nothing is ever the point.

That's just dumb.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.72  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.69    4 weeks ago
it is foolish to blame Trump and the GOP for Biden's failures 

CB did not blame Trump.   You  dishonestly misrepresented what he wrote.

CB referenced Trump's coercion of the GOP to NOT act on border legislation that Biden wanted so as to mitigate Biden's recent efforts to address the border issues.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.73  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.70    4 weeks ago
What does "correctable policy failure" mean to you

it means an actual policy that is failing was in place.

now, once again, what exactly is Biden's policy, and wtf do you think he'll do to "correct it" when it took him over 3 years to even admit there was one?

I have to hear this!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.74  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.71    4 weeks ago
It seems nothing is ever the point.

The reality is that most replies from select individuals are deflections, whining or faux obtuse retorts.

The fact that so many refuse to honestly deal with the point made simply illustrates the failure to put forth a cogent rebuttal.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.75  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.72    4 weeks ago

I didn't misrepresent a damn thing, and it is a stupid comment.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.4.76  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.67    4 weeks ago
convicted felon, traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole for PotUS?

With the exception of convicted felon,  I think your attempt to differentiate the candidates kinda falls flat among non-partisans.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.4.77  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.67    4 weeks ago

It seems everyone in the world wants to become American!

We must be doing a lot of things right, or that would not be.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.78  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.74    4 weeks ago

the reality is far too many refuse to acknowledge anything that doesn't echo precisely their own thoughts.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.79  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.73    4 weeks ago
... actual policy that is failing was in place.

So, again, you state the obvious as if that was a point in contention.

... what exactly is Biden's policy, ...

You are trying to change the topic.   Biden's policy was, in effect, to ignore the problem.    His current policy is to humanely deal with illegals while providing support to cut down on illegal immigration.   

And you of course ignore the question I asked and the implicit point made:

Is a correctable policy failure enough to cause you to vote for a convicted felon, traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole for PotUS?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.80  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.4.76    4 weeks ago

You think that non-partisans do not care about Trump being a traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole??

By what bizarre logic do you come to such a conclusion?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.81  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.79    4 weeks ago

funny how everything i say, you claim it is something else.

not interested in that tactic myself.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.82  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.79    4 weeks ago

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GregTx
Professor Guide
3.4.83  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.80    4 weeks ago
You think that non-partisans do not care about Trump being a traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole??

No. I didn't say that. I said that non-partisans might view Biden in the same way, with the exception of convicted felon, so far......

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.4.84  JBB  replied to  GregTx @3.4.83    4 weeks ago

Except Americans know Biden to be an honest decent man! They do not have to love him to know that he serves with honor!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.85  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.7    4 weeks ago

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afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
3.4.86  afrayedknot  replied to  GregTx @3.4.83    4 weeks ago

“…with the exception of convicted felon…”

….an unprecedented and huge albatross to have hanging around one’s neck…he can’t even vote for himself given his self imposed transgressions. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.87  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @3.4.86    4 weeks ago

which has nothing to do with what he said.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.88  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.4.83    4 weeks ago

Non-partisans might view Biden as a traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole?

I think it is mostly R partisans who would attempt to project Trump's most obvious negative characteristics onto Biden. 

They do it every day in an attempt to equate Trump with Biden in order to disguise the glaring negatives of Trump. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.89  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.88    4 weeks ago

#34 has no positive characteristics.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.90  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.88    4 weeks ago
Non-partisans might view Biden as a traitor, narcissist, loose-cannon, irresponsible, vindictive, asshole?

YES!

Can anyone criticize Biden ever without his sycophants rushing in to defend him?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.91  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.89    4 weeks ago

Well, Ike has been dead a long time, so you may actually be right, dead men don't have any positive characteristics.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
3.4.92  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3.4.77    4 weeks ago

It sounds as if you think that we are exceptional.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.93  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.69    4 weeks ago

Cut the crap. It's unfortunate that Donald can micro-manage the GOP as its troll guarding the troll farm in the house and senate. It does not matter the motivation of the sitting president to do a thing. . . the window opened up to do something. . . it reopened a second time in front of MAGAs and Donald stuck his big fat mouth into the breach and shouted: 'Do not touch that. Or else.' Thereabouts. And so like the good MAGAs followers they are the house and senate MAGAs took a knee.

I hope MAGAs lose the house, lose more seats in the senate, and Bide wins over Donald. As for me and my house. . . this country has endured enough lies and slanted truths. Come clean. Come clear. Or go home!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.4.94  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.88    4 weeks ago
I think it is mostly R partisans who would attempt to project Trump's most obvious negative characteristics onto Biden. 

The Democrat Presidential  candidate is consistently behind in polling for the first time since 2004, and is somehow losing to a convicted felon with major, disqualifying issues of his own.

The idea that Biden isn't a massive, massive disaster of a candidate with major flaws that  could easily encompass those adjectives is just silly. He's losing to Trump because he's at least as flawed as he is.   There must be some major psychological issue that prevents his supporters from seeing how Biden is viewed by most Americans. 

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.4.95  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.88    4 weeks ago
I think it is mostly R partisans who would attempt to project Trump's most obvious negative characteristics onto Biden. 

Mmmmm.... I think that's wishful thinking...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.4.96  JBB  replied to  GregTx @3.4.95    4 weeks ago

No, because Biden is fundamentally unlike Donald Trump!

They're very clearly not alike. Saying they are is ridiculous...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.97  Texan1211  replied to  GregTx @3.4.83    4 weeks ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.98  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.93    4 weeks ago
Cut the crap.

I'm sorry you didn't like the truth.

MAGA, MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.

Crap, crap, crap.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.99  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.69    4 weeks ago
Department of Homeland Security 
Appropriations: FY2022

On May 28, 2021 , the Joseph R. Biden Administration released its annual budget request for FY2022 , including a $90.80 billion budget request for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) . The request included $53.99 billion in adjusted net discretionary appropriations and $18.80 billion in disaster relief-designated funds.

This was $1.11 billion more than was enacted for DHS in FY2021 , although those FY2021 annual appropriations also included $840 million in emergency funding to cover U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) fee shortfalls not included in the total. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.100  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.99    4 weeks ago

Nice info, but it serves absolutely no purpose in this discussion.

I never said anything about ANY of that anyway, so this is yet another deflection because someone criticized Biden.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.101  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.82    4 weeks ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.102  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.90    4 weeks ago

The epitome of irony.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.103  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.89    4 weeks ago

Now that you mention it, I cannot think of any positive characteristics for Trump.   He is not even a good father or husband.

I suppose those who admire con-men would find positive characteristics.   And, of course, there are millions who admire qualities that Trump does not possess but are somehow ingrained in their minds as truth.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.104  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.4.95    4 weeks ago

That is exactly what GOP partisans have been doing Greg.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.105  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.94    4 weeks ago

The typical attempt to equate Biden with Trump.   No matter how ridiculous, posts like @3.4.94 just keep coming.   Understandable since there is no defending Trump.   All Trump supporters can do is engage in dishonest deflection and fantasy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.106  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.102    4 weeks ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.4.107  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.105    4 weeks ago

And yet trump is somehow wining despite having “ no positive characteristics.”

That might prompt critical thinkers  to reassess their opinions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.108  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.107    4 weeks ago
And yet trump is somehow wining despite having “ no positive characteristics.”

It is amazing.    I suspect most supporters ignore his negative characteristics and just focus on imagined policy accomplishments he claims he will effect.

What are Trump's positive characteristics?   Not imagined accomplishments (e.g. Trump will produce the greatest economy, will solve all the world's problems, etc.) but real, demonstrable, personal qualities that intelligent individuals can rationally discuss.

Does he have any personal characteristics that are admirable?   I guess maybe not drinking is one.   Anything else?

What could possibly offset his plethora of negative qualities?  

Also, are you aware of argumentum ad populum?   Probably best to not engage in fallacious arguments.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.109  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.107    4 weeks ago

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CB
Professor Principal
3.4.110  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.94    4 weeks ago

Define, "most Americans," please.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.111  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.98    4 weeks ago

Biden requested billions for Customs and Border Protection funding

So far, the Biden administration has submitted budget requests to Congress for fiscal years  2022  and  2023 .

PolitiFact found that funding requests for Customs and Border Protection under the Biden and Trump administrations are comparable.

Requests under Biden’s tenure don’t show that the administration is trying to tear down the agency .

Over the Trump administration’s four years, funding requests for Customs and Border Protection averaged $15.5 billion a year.

Over the Biden administration’s two years, funding requests for the agency averaged $15 billion a year.

Ultimately, Congress determines how much money goes to executive agencies .

For fiscal year 2022 , the Democratic-controlled Congress appropriated $16.5 billion for the agency, a higher budget than the four enacted under Trump .

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.112  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.110    4 weeks ago

In the context of his comment, I would venture to guess any of that 56.5% majority of Americans who have just recently given Biden a very low approval rating, sitting way below what it was just short of three years ago, when 45.7% gave him favorable ratings.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.113  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.111    4 weeks ago

Unfortunately for the taxpaying citizens of the United States, we are getting ripped off.

The federal government is failing in its duty to secure our borders and protect US citizens from criminal aliens.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.114  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.100    4 weeks ago
3.4.69  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.66    4 hours ago

Biden ignored the border for 3 years
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.115  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.33    4 weeks ago

Neither - he's got his hand beside his face and he could be about to scratch his nose or whatever - what the hell??????????????????

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.116  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.36    4 weeks ago

I haven't looked at the video - it looks like Joe is raising his hand to his face - he's not doing anything other than raising his hand to his face

Talk about reaching

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.117  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.4.107    4 weeks ago

The thing that is to access is the 'impossible' amount of scoundrels seeking to force ownership of a country that never could be theirs alone. It's unforgivable what such scoundrels are attempting to do. I pray all rascals are never forgiven for this ne-er-ending outrage, until they receive a proportionate set of consequences.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.118  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.112    4 weeks ago

Well, we know he is not a friend of liberals. In fact, he hates liberals. Moreover, he appears to be passionate about hating liberals. Biden supporters surely are not telling pollsters he is bad for the country! So since you are here, do offer up a name for those "most Americans' who tell pollsters they do not like Biden-if you know it. Or, just go on now.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.119  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.113    4 weeks ago

Expenditures, excessive or not, is not the point of the thread. Biden's administration has not ignored the border. Period. SCORE!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.120  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.114    4 weeks ago

Very good, that IS exactly what I posted.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.121  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.118    4 weeks ago

You can Google 538 polls as well as I can. I'm not here as your researcher-on-demand.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.122  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.119    4 weeks ago

Expenditures, excessive or not, is not the point of the thread. Biden's administration has not ignored the border. Period. SCORE!

 I didn't bring up expenditures, you did, so I guess we agree that post had no value.

Biden's administration has not ignored the border. Period. SCORE!

 I know not a single soul--Democrat, Republican, man, or woman-- that thinks Biden has done a damn thing on the border besides make a bad situation much worse.
 
 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.123  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.120    4 weeks ago

Don't play yourself. It is what you wrote and it speaks for itself in telling on you!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.124  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.4.121    4 weeks ago

Bull. It is sad that some MAGAs behave more like  'bots' than a conversationalist.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.125  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.123    4 weeks ago

Dang, I SAID it is exactly what I wrote, so why argue about it?

I was merely complimenting you on your cut and paste skills.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.4.126  Texan1211  replied to  CB @3.4.124    4 weeks ago

But not nearly as sad as seeing imaginary MAGAs everywhere!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.4.127  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.14    4 weeks ago

Spin spin spin

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.128  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4    4 weeks ago

This was debunked days ago yet the lies continue to be posted

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.129  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.4.53    4 weeks ago

Yup, the Daily Mail - a lot of that garbage is posted and re-posted on alleged main stream media.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.130  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.4.30    4 weeks ago

Why would you be certain of that?  It's a done deal.  Phonier than thou Johnson has no power to overturn this and he knows it and you know it.

Reminds me of something I heard recently

'We know they're lying

They know we know they're lying

They know they're lying

They continue to lie'

I paraphrased a little

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.131  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.108    4 weeks ago

'and yet #34 is winning despite having no positive characteristics'

some have no standards

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.132  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.131    4 weeks ago

and hold certain others to no standards either

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4  Jeremy Retired in NC    4 weeks ago
Later during a power shoot, Biden began wandering around and as people looked on uncomfortably, Italy's Prime Minister escorted him back to the group.

Don't you just love when the dementia kicks in and Geriatric Joe becomes a Roomba and becomes the embarrassment the Democrats and left make pathetic excuses for.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    4 weeks ago

What I don't love is Vic's hateful opinions on his entire commentary;

When it was time for his little joint speech wit Ukraine leader Zelinsky, Joe got distracted by a plane flying overhead.

The G7 site is in the flight path of the Bari Airport.  Some sort of low & slow commercial jet drowned out Biden and he waited a minute so the audience could hear him after the plane and noise passed.

 Later during a power shoot, Biden began wandering around and as people looked on uncomfortably, Italy's Prime Minister escorted him back to the group.

They had just watched a paratrooper exercise and Biden went to watch a trooper pack up his chute quickly and cleanly

while the trooper in front of the group struggled with a mass of tangled lines and material.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    4 weeks ago
What I don't love is Vic's hateful slant on his entire commentary.

Emphatically. I wanted to mention the slant, the negativity, the un-balance, but could not see my way through to using the word, 'slant.' You got it right (to some of our minds here). One would get the impression that nothing good has happened up to this point at the G7 of significance. And, I presume that would be a lie, because world leaders don't just come together to blow smoke up each other's. . . noses and play tiddlywinks all-around. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @4.1    4 weeks ago

Seems our weekly report is an exercise in an alternate reality

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

The daily dump

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.3    4 weeks ago

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Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  CB @4.1.1    4 weeks ago
because world leaders don't just come together to blow smoke up each other's. . . noses and play tiddlywinks all-around. 

And the reporters were asked to ask questions about the G7 or something relative like Ukraine or Putin

So the Bloomberg reporter goes right to Israel/Gazza...

"I wish you guys would play by the rules a little bit. I'm here to talk about a critical situation in Ukraine. You're asking another subject. I'll be happy to answer in detail later, but the bottom line is that we made an agreement [in regard to Gaza]," Biden responded.

He wasn't mean or angry but obviously they agreed to stay on topic and should have while it was live on the air.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.5    4 weeks ago

Are you kidding me?  Don't you know that republicons hold #34 to absolutely no fucking standards whatsoever.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.6    4 weeks ago

but President Biden

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Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.6    4 weeks ago

Trump had nothing to do with my comments

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Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.1.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.8    4 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    4 weeks ago

The people who have been full of hate, SP are the people who falsely accused Trump of colluding with Russia, the politicized FBI who wrongly investigated Trump and his people, the democrats led by Pelosi who staged two farcical impeachments and the state DA's who ran on "getting Trump."[]


 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.5    4 weeks ago
So the Bloomberg reporter goes right to Israel/Gazza...

How dare he!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
4.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.5    4 weeks ago
He wasn't mean or angry but obviously they agreed to stay on topic

Obviously they didn't agree to stay on the Topic Joe wanted because they didn't.  I wasn't aware the Administration could dictate to the free press what they can and can not ask.  So much for transparency.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.12    4 weeks ago

In this case they dictated who could ask a question and what the question could be.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    4 weeks ago
What I don't love is Vic's hateful opinions on his entire commentary

Sounds like it's your problem to work out and none of my concern.

The G7 site is in the flight path of the Bari Airport.  Some sort of low & slow commercial jet drowned out Biden and he waited a minute so the audience could hear him after the plane and noise passed.

So you are making excuses for Traitor Joe's inability to stay focused.  

They had just watched a paratrooper exercise and Biden went to watch a trooper pack up his chute quickly and cleanly while the trooper in front of the group struggled with a mass of tangled lines and material.

And where did you pull that little bit from.  Surely not the article.  Either way, its still making excuses for the Roomba routine that Traitor Joe has become known for.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.8    4 weeks ago

[] Although I'm not sure what President Eishenhower has to do with any of this.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.8    4 weeks ago

I know but mine did.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.17  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    4 weeks ago
are the people who falsely accused Trump of colluding with Russia, the politicized FBI who wrongly investigated Trump and his people, the democrats led by Pelosi who staged two farcical impeachments and the state DA's who ran on "getting Trump.

There is a lot of evidence that Trump walked a very fine line with Putin. 

The FBI isn't politicized, it follows the money in pursuing the truth.

the democrats led by Pelosi who staged two farcical impeachments 

As opposed to the GOP which impeached Clinton for a blow job?  What goes around often comes around.

Even Lindsey Graham knows that.

and the state DA's who ran on "getting Trump.

As opposed to Trump who ran with "lock her up" against Hillary?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.18  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

The Outer Limits...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.17    4 weeks ago
There is a lot of evidence that Trump walked a very fine line with Putin. 

Nothing wrong with fine lines 

Thoroughly investigated, no charges filed.

As opposed to the GOP which impeached Clinton for a blow job?  

Utterly false.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.17    4 weeks ago
he FBI isn't politicized, it follows the money in pursuing the truth.

Good point, That's exactly what progressives argued in Leonard Peltier thread.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.19    4 weeks ago
Utterly false.

so many progressives can never, ever be honest about  shilling for a President who perjured himself and obstructed justice. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.21    4 weeks ago

It is sad that this long after people still won't recognize facts 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.23  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.20    4 weeks ago

LMMFAO!

Nailed it!

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.24  Split Personality  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.12    4 weeks ago
Obviously they didn't agree to stay on the Topic Joe wanted because they didn't. 

Oh, Duh?

I wasn't aware the Administration could dictate to the free press what they can and can not ask.

There are always rules of engagement between politicians and reporters especially if they are live at a summit as was the case, especially if travelling on AF1 or AF2

  So much for transparency.  

So much for your journalistic experiences.  Josh Wingrove just made his own job much, much harder.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.25  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.20    4 weeks ago

The FBI was prejudiced against American Indians since it's inception, that's a flaw but it isn't political.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.24    4 weeks ago

Of course it's President Biden's fault that the reporters didn't follow the protocols

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.27  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.25    4 weeks ago

So you believe the FBI is racist and biased but not political.  Seems to me arresting a  political activist does in fact involve politics, but whatever floats your boat. It's also not like there is volumes of evidence of the FBI involving itself in politics, documented by democrats in the Church Committee, back  before so many Democrats became toadies for authoritarianism. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.28  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.27    4 weeks ago
back  before so many Democrats became toadies for authoritarianism. 

Are you projecting again?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.29  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.28    4 weeks ago

Well, we know you are deflecting.  Instead of making personal attacks, try and engage on substance. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.30  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.29    4 weeks ago
toadies for authoritarianism.

The perfect euphemism for Trump defenders.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.31  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.30    4 weeks ago

plenty of warts...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.6    4 weeks ago

Exactly what standards do you wasn't dead people held to?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    4 weeks ago

In 2024, we have two, count them: One, two, mature elderly candidates running for president: We KNOW who the other mature elderly candidate is, too!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @4.2    4 weeks ago

One that has been deemed unfit to stand trial yet can run for [office.][]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.1    4 weeks ago

Robert Hur certified him as unfit for trial. As a certified imbecile he is immune to prosecution.

Maybe Hur is right. I'm not sure.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.2    4 weeks ago

From what we've seen from Biden for the past 50+ years, Hur may be\correct.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.3    4 weeks ago

Maybe the video they won't release would provide some useful information.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    4 weeks ago

Wouldn't be the first time the Democrats and left try to hide stuff.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.3    4 weeks ago

I agree with the diagnosis. It's the prescription that concerns me.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.6    4 weeks ago

What concerns me is that they are running him (and people are supporting him) for office despite the diagnosis.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.5    4 weeks ago

The film may have all the elements of "Russian disinformation." /S

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.7    4 weeks ago

He is only a vessel for the left. If he dies, they may just leave him on the ticket.

Remember the work horse in Animal Farm (Boxer?) They just kept using him.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.8    4 weeks ago

 jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
4.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.9    4 weeks ago

"Weekend at Bidens" comes to mind

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.12  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.2    4 weeks ago
Robert Hur certified him as unfit for trial. As a certified imbecile he is immune to prosecution. Maybe Hur is right. I'm not sure.

Why repeat untrue Twitter BS from Marjorie Greene?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.13  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.7    4 weeks ago

What diagnosis?  Bunch of retired old wannabe's proclaiming medical diagnosis on social media

as fact?

Hilarious!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.14  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.13    4 weeks ago
Bunch of retired old wannabe's proclaiming medical diagnosis on social media

Only matched by a bunch of retired old wannabes proclaiming medical diagnosis on social media for Trump, right?

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.15  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.14    4 weeks ago

Did I specify?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.15    4 weeks ago

Well, when I read all the posts, it appears crystal clear that you are talking about Biden.

Unless you switched topics midstream.

In which case you should be much more specific.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.13    4 weeks ago

Put it right up there with those claiming Trump is unfit.  Although, a special prosecutor didn't determine that Trump was too mentally deficient to stand trial.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.18  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.17    4 weeks ago

How is a convicted felon who is distinguished as the only PotUS who attempted to steal a presidential election through coercion, fraud, lying, and incitement fit to hold the office of the presidency??

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.18    4 weeks ago

Look at it the same way you are supporting a person who was deemed unfit to stand trial for mishandling classified documents fit to hold the office of the presidency.

steal an election

You mean like the Democrats after the 2016 election?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.19    4 weeks ago

The obvious deflection.   Exactly what I expected.

Where is your logical rebuttal that shows how Trump is fit to hold office?   

You have no argument.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
4.2.21  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.19    4 weeks ago

Silly, everyone knows it is ok when they do it

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.20    4 weeks ago
Where is your logical rebuttal that shows how Trump is fit to hold office? 

in 4.2.19.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.23  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.19    4 weeks ago
Look at it the same way you are supporting a person who was deemed unfit to stand trial for mishandling classified documents fit to hold the office of the presidency.

Can you quote the part of Hur's report that use those words exactly?

steal an election
You mean like the Democrats after the 2016 election?

How so? Hillary conceded in less than 24 hours.  Then she pretty much disappeared for a few years. She bitched off and on and wrote in a book that the election was stolen.  Trump's most recent trial pretty much proved that his dream team was involved in dirty tricks which influenced the election.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.24  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.23    4 weeks ago
Hillary conceded in less than 24 hours

A concession is meaningless.  She then joined a lawsuit to overturn the Wisconsin vote, her campaign tried to get electors to flip their votes, and her party in Congress tried to "overturn the election" by challenging the certification in Congress.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.25  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.17    4 weeks ago
Although, a special prosecutor didn't determine that Trump was too mentally deficient to stand trial.

Any prosecutor has to determine if he can win a case, if the case is important enough or if the crime deliberate.

Hur determined that Biden, ( like Mike Pence) had cooperated fully and was just too much like Mr. Rogers,

a likeable sympathetic figure he would never get 12 people to convict a year or 5 years down the road since

we cannot drag a sitting POTUS into court.

All attempts to impeach Biden so far have failed because most people in Congress realize the same thing

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.26  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.24    4 weeks ago
… and her party in Congress tried to "overturn the election" by challenging the certification in Congress.

Yet another extremely hyperbolic claim.   The reality is that Rep Lee and a few others attempted to challenge the electoral counts in 2016 but VP Biden shut her down since no D senator would support her motion.   

And you compare this to Trump’s Big Lie con-job where he attempted to steal the election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.

A feeble motion by a few reps killed by the Ds in general at its inception compared to a multi-month campaign of unconstitutional / illegal actions by the sitting PotUS.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.27  CB  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.25    4 weeks ago

Besides as a prosecutor, Mr. Hur inserted into an official record that questionable verbiage that may have been superfluous. The one about 'doddering and old' (paraphrase) Why did he insert it? More importantly, who was his audience that needed a 'permanent' explanation of why he couldn't and wouldn't be charging Biden?

Because he could have easily have told that 'line' to that audience, but he wanted it to be permanent (as if so they could argue with the report and leave him out of it).

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.28  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.26    4 weeks ago
  The reality is that Rep Lee and a few others attempted to challenge the electoral counts in 

Yep, Democrats, including the hypocrite Jamie Raskin, objected to the certification of the votes for 8 states . Thanks for proving me correct. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.29  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.27    4 weeks ago
Why did he insert it?

Easy one.

To explain away why he wouldn't be prosecuting Biden.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.30  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.23    4 weeks ago

not after initiating the "Russia Collusion" hoax.  But lets ignore that and run with your fantasy.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.31  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.29    4 weeks ago

And so no prosecution will occur. It is what it is. (Another) Easy one.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.31    4 weeks ago
And so no prosecution will occur.

very good, that is precisely what he explained.

so why ask in the first place.

there was no question to you.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.33  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.32    4 weeks ago

The original comment is with SP; you did not have to insert yourself since you have nothing new to offer.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.33    4 weeks ago

I have been informed this is a public forum and any member can comment as they see fit on any comment, unless it is a violation of site rules.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.35  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.24    4 weeks ago
A concession is meaningless. 

No it isn't.

She then joined a lawsuit to overturn the Wisconsin vote,

It was a lawsuit to force a recount...

her campaign tried to get electors to flip their votes,

It was Christine Pelosi, several Hollywood personalities and liberal activists, but not Clinton

and her party in Congress tried to "overturn the election" by challenging the certification in Congress.

It wasn't the party, it was the electors themselves that tried to rebel against the Electoral College and get Republicans to follow suit by throwing their votes to Kasich, Collin Powell or Ron Paul.

Although several faithless electors voted for Kasich, Powell and Paul, more fled Clinton by also voting for Powell or Spotted Eagle or Berni Sanders.

House Democrats Did challenge the certification 11 times as allowed by the House Rules

and then VP Biden gaveled them down for not having the appropriate signatures.

Eight Senate Republicans, and 139 House Republicans, voted against fully certifying President Joe Biden’s electoral victory on Jan. 6. Those who spoke with NBC News defended their official objections, which took place the same day as the deadly riot at the Capitol. GOP senators who voted against certifying 2020 election say they have no regrets (nbcnews.com)

The Whataboutism is ironic.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.2.36  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.34    4 weeks ago

I'm good with you commenting, but then don't expect me to over-explain the obvious: The original comment was to another site user, first and foremost.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.37  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.30    4 weeks ago

The DOJ confirmed that the DNC was indeed hacked by the Russians.

The remarkable timing of the Russian attempt on Clinton’s servers is just one of the new details revealed in the indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence officers, who Mueller alleges hacked the email accounts and computers of Democratic officials and organizations in an audacious effort to influence the U.S. election.

Although the broad outlines of the hacking and influence campaign have been widely reported, the indictment describes for the first time the identities, techniques and tactics of the operation to disrupt American democracy.

How the Russians hacked the DNC and passed its emails to WikiLeaks - The Washington Post

But lets ignore that and run with your fantasy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.38  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.36    4 weeks ago

Irrelevant.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.39  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.37    4 weeks ago

The hoax was that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, as was trumpeted loudly by so many leftists.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.40  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.35    4 weeks ago

They're comparable don't you know?

jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.41  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.37    4 weeks ago

Comey certainly helped.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.42  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.35    4 weeks ago

No it isn't

really? What legal effect does it have? 

It was a lawsuit to force a recount...

No kidding.  The point of which was…..

It was Christine Pelosi, several Hollywood personalities and liberal activists, but not Clinton

Again, the ultimate distinction without a difference. and yes, it failed. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.43  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.37    4 weeks ago

So no collusion.  Thanks for proving, yet again, the point proven by mueller. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.44  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.43    4 weeks ago
So no collusion.  Thanks for proving, yet again, the point proven by mueller. 

Yet Democrats continued to push the lie, and some still do.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.45  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.43    4 weeks ago
Thanks for proving, yet again, the point proven by mueller. 

Except that Mueller did not prove there was no collusion despite Bill Barr's interpretation of it.

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not absolve President Donald Trump of "collusion" with Russia in his 448-page report of his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, despite Attorney General William Barr's insisting that he did.

Mueller wrote that his team chose to evaluate the actions of the Trump campaign and administration "not under the rubric of 'collusion'" but rather whether the administration had "conspired" to break the law.

Mueller said that while his team saw the term "collusion" pop up frequently in official Trump administration memorandums—either by the president himself and in public reports— "collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the U.S. Code; nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law. To the contrary, even as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute.

"For that reason, this Office's focus in resolving the question of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law, not the commonly discussed term 'collusion.'" The only other references to "collusion" in the body of the report quote the president, his surrogates and former FBI Director James Comey.

But in a Thursday morning press conference, Attorney General William Barr repeated the president's "no collusion" line   five times in 22 minutes .

"After finding no underlying collusion with Russia, the Special Counsel's report goes on to consider whether certain actions of the President could amount to obstruction of the Special Counsel's investigation," said Barr.

...

The Mueller report does not exonerate the president. Although the term "exonerate" appears three times in Mueller's report, the word is used to say " while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

Robert Mueller Does Not Absolve Donald Trump of 'Collusion' in His Report - Newsweek

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.46  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.45    4 weeks ago
Except that Mueller did not prove there was no collusion despite Bill Barr's interpretation of it.

It wasn't Mueller's task to prove no collusion, he was supposed to being trying to find evidence OF collusion.

Struck out.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.47  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.45    4 weeks ago
" while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

Except your link is from the section of the Report dealing with obstruction, not collusion with Russia. It misleadingly makes it appear that Mueller was discussing the collusion allegations when discussing exoneration.  When it came to actual collusion with Russia, the Report concluded the "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.48  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.47    4 weeks ago

Some seem to think it was Mueller's job to exonerate the President.

Clearly, that was never what he was tasked to do.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.49  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.35    4 weeks ago

What was Bobbie Meuller supposed to be looking into?  TRUMPS collusion with Russia.

What did Bobby Meuller find?  DEMOCRATS collusion with Russia.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5  CB    4 weeks ago

The 'cast' of females labeled, "Tokyo Rose" would love these little daily news from the Front  "sessions" on NT!

 
 

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