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Real threats to democracy.

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  3 months ago  •  150 comments

Real threats to democracy.
"A lot of what's coming out now is the reason I resigned shortly there after winning the election that we fought so hard to win," said Webb.

As most decent people already know it is the American left and the Trump haters who are a clear threat to American democracy. They twist American law to achieve their ends, they weaponize government to go after all their perceived enemies, they indoctrinate our children and they have even defamed the SCOTUS.

The latest chapter in the nonstop march of evil comes from the ultra-liberal "city" of Oakland CA. There even the citizens who have elected some of the most radical democrats to office are now trying to recall their out-of-control mayor: Sheng Thao. Her home (or is it her home?) was raided by the FBI Thursday. While the politicized FBI has yet to link Ms Thao to any wrongdoing, Renia Webb, a former confidante and chief of staff for the mayor has come forward concerning pay-to-play allegations. It is very risky to be a whistleblower against democrats these days. Webb says that a lot of what is finally coming out is why she resigned. Really?

You would have thought she would have resigned over policy:

Robberies grew 38% last year in Oakland, according to  police data.  Burglaries increased 23%. Motor vehicle theft jumped 44%. Roughly one of every 30 Oakland residents had a car stolen last year, according to a San Francisco Chronicle  analysis .

On Tuesday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced he was taking action, deploying 120 California Highway Patrol officers to Oakland and the surrounding area to conduct a law enforcement surge operation. The aim: to crack down on crime, including vehicle theft, retail theft and violent crime.

Rising crime risks turning Oakland into a ‘ghost town.’ Newsom is sending in reinforcements | CNN Business

When the likes of Newson wants action, you know there is a serious crime problem. On the other hand, the democrat citizens of Oakland voted for Thao.

When will they have enough?


In other news:

Gunmen attacked synagogues and churches in two cities in southern Russia. They used rifles and Molotov cocktails.  The attackers killed police officers and a priest. Six of the gunmen died in shootouts, officials said.

Benjamin Netanyahu, in a television interview, said that the intensive phase of Israel’s war against Hamas would end soon.

Israel bombed a UN compound near Gaza City, killing at least eight people, a Palestinian news agency said. The Israeli military said militants were using the compound, which Hamas has denied.

The Manhattan district attorney declined to prosecute most of the protesters charged with taking over a Columbia University Hall, citing a lack of evidence. Many believe the New York judicial system to be a national disgrace.

Many countries in Africa resent France, a former colonial power. Rwanda seems to be a cut above the rest and is embracing French culture and courting French investment.

This week is the anniversary of the Supreme Court’s reversal of Roe v. Wade.  Democrats plan on highlighting the event.






 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Good morning.

As to our biased media:

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A CNN anchor cut off a guest's mic for saying the debate moderators were biased.

Why not just admit the obvious?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago
Why not just admit the obvious?

Because that would be admitting that they are part of the problem.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1    3 months ago

Stephen Miller: "Pro tip for CNN: if you silence a guest for truthfully discussing deeply offensive commentary from a CNN host, and abruptly terminate the interview, you succeed only in calling more attention to the CNN host’s alarming bias and outrageous slanders."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 months ago

This laughable claim that the Trump flunky was mistreated will serve as Trumps escape hatch if he decides to bail on the debate. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    3 months ago

They can show the Twin Towers coming down, but they can't show the question of Tapper & Bash being biased?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 months ago

“Stephen Miller: "Pro tip…”

The only ‘tip’ miller is giving up is his giving the shaft to everyone who doesn’t engage in his homo erotic fantasies. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.4    3 months ago

Miller is racist scum and I pay no attention to vermin like him or his 'pro-tips' jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1.4    3 months ago

I see him as the next Secretary of Homeland Security.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    2 months ago

Of course you do!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago

This article pretty much sums up how the so called "debate" will likely go.....

Make No Mistake, Trump Won't Be Debating Biden Even If Biden Is There – RedState

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    3 months ago

I think Trump has gone against 3-1 odds before.

You know how those questions will be stacked.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago

So if I am reading this correctly:

  • If Biden wins the election debate, it was rigged .
  • If Trump wins, it is because he deserved to win the election debate

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Vic Eldred
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1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3    3 months ago

You aren't reading it correctly. No matter who wins it will be Trump vs Biden and the two moderators.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.3.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    3 months ago

The rest of this thread was removed for no value.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.3.6  Hallux  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.3.5    2 months ago

... and to think you could have started at the beginning.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago

She went off topic, got what she deserved. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @1.4    3 months ago

Pointing out that the two moderators once compared Trump to Hitler couldn't be more on topic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.1    2 months ago

Or more truthful

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago
As most decent people already know it is the American left and the Trump haters who are a clear threat to American democracy.

never mind those that disavow the US constitution's principles of the rule of law and a secular democracy... /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.5    2 months ago

Why did the FBI investigate Trump?

Why did the FBI investigate Catholics?

Why did the FBI intimidate parents?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.5.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.1    2 months ago

Democrats.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.5.3  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.1    2 months ago
Why did the FBI investigate Trump?

He refused to return government property.

Why did the FBI investigate Catholics?

They didn't and you know it.

Why did the FBI intimidate parents?

Again they didn't and you know it.

You could easily find enough to criticize Democrats, liberals and the FBI without continuing to lie and make shit up. It's not even hard.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.5.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilone @1.5.3    2 months ago
Why did the FBI investigate Trump?
He refused to return government property.

Wong.  He was "investigated" because he beat the Democrats at their own game.  Did you forget the open ended "Russia Collusion" hoax they and the liberal bloggers like MSNBC and CNN pushed?  When that failed they concocted fictitious story after fictitious story.

Why did the FBI intimidate parents?
Again they didn't and you know it.

You need to do better research if you are going to gaslight people.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilone @1.5.3    2 months ago
He refused to return government property.

I'm talking about the Russia hoax.


They didn't and you know it

The  FBI  has come under scrutiny after a leaked document showed the bureau warning that "radical traditionalist" Catholics pose as an extremist threat.

Kyle Seraphin, a former FBI special agent and federal whistleblower, obtained the document from the bureau's field office in Richmond, Virginia, and published it on the  UncoveredDC  website. 

The FBI in Richmond discusses monitoring Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists (RMVE) and their interests in so-called "Radical-Traditionalist Catholics" or RTCs.

The memo notes that FBI investigations have found that there is a "growing overlap" between the far-right white nationalist movement and RTCs.

FBI Under Pressure for Targeting Catholics in Leaked Document - Newsweek


Again they didn't and you know it.

The  FBI  used “threat tags” created by the bureau’s counterterrorism division to launch dozens of investigations into parents who had protested at  school board  meetings, whistleblowers disclosed.

The probes targeted parents who were reported on a new  Justice Department  “snitch line.”

The FBI  investigations included a father opposed to mask mandates and a mother deemed a threat for “owning guns” and belonging to a group called “Moms for Liberty.”

Whistleblowers: FBI probed parents under counterterrorism 'threat tag' for protesting school boards - Washington Times


Three facts and you are in denial of all three.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.5    2 months ago

None of what you say is true - none of these hoaxes are hoaxes.  

Some kind of alternate reality going on

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.5.6    2 months ago

Complete denial.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.5.8  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.5    2 months ago

Some kind of alternate reality

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.5.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.5    2 months ago
I'm talking about the Russia hoax.

Hey Vic, did you ever actually read the final bipartisan report on that "hoax"?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.5.10  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.7    2 months ago

Yes, indeed.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.5.9    2 months ago

You bet. We lost 2 members that day. Both were convinced that the investigation would find Trump guilty.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.5.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.5.10    2 months ago

It is very basic stuff.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.12    2 months ago

That you are in complete denial?

Da!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.5.14  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.11    2 months ago
Both were convinced that the investigation would find Trump guilty.

Trump WAS found guilty, it is just that Trump wasn't found guilty of collusion, and the way the story was spun, you would think that zero evidence found , as in none. When actually it was found that Trump and friends LIED, lied about Russian contacts and persons close to Trump were charged. Trump, technically couldn't be. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.5.15  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.11    2 months ago

Two decent, honest, truthful ones.  Shame that someone drove them away.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.5.16  Texan1211  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.5.14    2 months ago
it is just that Trump wasn't found guilty of collusion,

Gosh, and everyone looked so hard to find it, too!!

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.5.17  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.11    2 months ago
We lost 2 members that day.

Both arms or both legs ... one of each? Or to (mis)quote Lady Bracknell: 

To lose one parent, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.
 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.5.18  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Hallux @1.5.17    2 months ago
We lost 2 members that day.

Is that a Lorraina Bobbit quote ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

It seems just about every day you write an 'article' on how the Democrats are such threats to Democracy when that is just projection to the ultimate degree or is it deflection away from #34 and his magats and their ongoing threats to Democracy?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.6    2 months ago

or both

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

A federal appeals court partially affirmed a lower court’s finding on Friday that Biden administration officials violated the First Amendment by coercing social media companies to censor speech.

The Fifth Circuit affirmed a lower court’s judgement that the White House, Surgeon General, CDC and FBI violated the First Amendment while finding that “the district court erred in finding that the NIAID Officials, CISA Officials, and State Department Officials likely violated Plaintiffs’ First Amendment rights.” Yet it  found  the injunction,  issued  by District of Louisiana Judge Terry A. Doughty in July, was “vague and broader than necessary.”

Appeals Court Finds Biden Admin Violated First Amendment By Encouraging Censorship (msn.com)


 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 months ago

What makes this bad is that there are many who still claim that this censorship never happened.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1    3 months ago

They don't accept facts. Instead, they write articles on what a bad guy Trump is.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    3 months ago

It is telling that they can't tell us what Biden has done that has actually worked to benefit the country but can list off unfounded reasons of why Trump is bad.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.2    3 months ago

The last conversation I had with one, they indicated that Biden failed to secure the border, but they can live with everything else that has gone on in the past 3 plus years. As for Tapper & Bash, they have already told everyone how they feel about Trump, so there won't be any surprises there, nor will the tactics of Joe Biden which will amount to him coming out like a jacked up trained seal calling Trump a "convicted felon."

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.2    3 months ago
It is telling that they can't tell us what Biden has done that has actually worked to benefit the country but can list off unfounded reasons of why Trump is bad.

it seems like the entire argument for Biden coming from his devoted, slavish fans is "Orange Man Bad".

Look no farther than these pages for evidence to support it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.4    3 months ago

Are you trying to say the Orange Man isnt bad ? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    3 months ago

If the first words out of Tapper and Bash's mouth to Trump are not "what were you doing on the afternoon of Jan 6th?"   they should resign as journalists. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    3 months ago

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Texan1211
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2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    3 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    3 months ago

You mean card carrying members of the radical left.

They are not journalists. Yesterday we saw an activist try to be a journalist:



That's right, Trump didn't have congress either, yet he got it done!

2:05 of the video

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.4    3 months ago
it seems like the entire argument for Biden coming from his devoted, slavish fans is "Orange Man Bad".

And it's been that since the day he threw his hat in for POTUS and wasn't running as a Democrat.  

Look no farther than these pages for evidence to support it.

No shit.  Look at how many "we got him now", "smoking gun" and echo chamber articles were posted that turned up to be 100% false.  How many and who consistently deflect anything and everything away from Traitor Joe.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.11  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    3 months ago

If the first words out of Tapper and Bash's mouth to Biden are not "what were you doing in the shower with your daughter that she felt was "inappropriate"   they should resign as journalists. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    3 months ago

Should Trump be asked, at the debate, about his conduct, or lack of, on Jan 6th ?

Dont the American people have a right to know that Trump committed the most egregious dereliction of duty by a president in US history? 

On the afternoon of Jan 6th, Trump did not talk to any member of the defense dept or other law enforcement agencies about ending the insurrection/riot, but he did talk to members of Congress about delaying the vote count per the Eastman plan. 

The plain truth is Trump did not want the riot to end, he wanted it to succeed. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  George @2.1.11    3 months ago

There are multiple witnesses to Trumps inaction at the White House on Jan 6, 2021. If you knew the slightest thing about the report of the J6 committee you would know that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.12    3 months ago
Should Trump be asked, at the debate, about his conduct, or lack of, on Jan 6th ?

No. The debate should be about the policies of the two men who both served as President.


Dont the American people have a right to know that Trump committed the most egregious dereliction of duty by a president in US history? 

That is not true and not worthy of a Presidential debate. No more than all the dirty shit that was done to Trump beginning with the Russia hoax. Don't you want a debate based on substance?


On the afternoon of Jan 6th, Trump did not talk to any member of the defense dept or other law enforcement agencies about ending the insurrection/riot, but he did talk to members of Congress about delaying the vote count per the Eastman plan. 

Who gives a fuck.


The plain truth is Trump did not want the riot to end, he wanted it to succeed.

He would have never said to go peacefully, if that was true.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    3 months ago

Trump wanted his mob to do whatever they had to do to stall or prevent the electoral count.  He didnt care if it was peaceful or not, as long as it worked. 

After Trump knew that dozens of cops had been injured by his mob, he told the mob in a tweet "remember this day for the rest of your lives". 

He meant that in a positive way (toward the mob) not a negative. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    3 months ago
On the afternoon of Jan 6th, Trump did not talk to any member of the defense dept or other law enforcement agencies about ending the insurrection/riot, but he did talk to members of Congress about delaying the vote count per the Eastman plan. Who gives a fuck.

Patriots. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.15    3 months ago

And you can back all this up with links to video and official documents right?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.17    3 months ago

read the J6 report, or watch it on video. I am beyond tired of your silly questions and claims. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.15    3 months ago

That is an opinion that you and one other here hold as a religious belief.   Most people would disagree.

If we are going to use the debate to make it a "choice election," we would once again be interfering with the election. Hasn't enough election interference already taken place?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.18    3 months ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif The J6 report.  That's fucking hilarious.  You're speculating just as much as that clusterfuck "committee"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.18    3 months ago

The Jan 6th Committee was deeply compromised from day 1 when Pelosi picked all the members. From there they deleted the words "go peacefully," cherry picked taped interviews, and destroyed documents as the Republicans took over. It was a sham just like the NY trials.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.16    3 months ago
Patriots. 

You?  

The "patriots" may have solved it with the NY sham trial.  The polls turned out to be right, hang a conviction on him and 3 out of ten independents won't vote for him. Trump lost his lead right after the verdict.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.23  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.21    3 months ago

You have shown time after time after time that you know nothing about it. 

If not for free speech your laughable comments on this subject dont belong on a respectable internet forum. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.24  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.22    3 months ago

Of course. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.23    3 months ago
If not for free speech your laughable comments on this subject dont belong on a respectable internet forum.

Oh, that darn free speech. If only you patriots could do away with that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.24    3 months ago
Of course. 

No way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.27  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.19    3 months ago
If we are going to use the debate to make it a "choice election," we would once again be interfering with the election.

Lord only knows what this is supposed to even mean. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.28  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.21    3 months ago
The Jan 6th Committee was deeply compromised from day 1 when Pelosi picked all the members.

Remember the J6 Clown Show was comprised of the very people who tried to gaslight everybody into believing the "Russia Collusion" hoax.  Only those that bought into that hoax are the ones that claim the J6 Clown Show is legitimate.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.29  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.28    3 months ago

Please tell us, what steps did Trump take to try and end the riot at the Capitol? 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.30  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.28    3 months ago

As if Trump has not just been convicted of 34 felony counts of fraud and election crimes related to his 2016 campaign?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.31  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.1.30    3 months ago
As if Trump has not just been convicted of 34 felony counts of fraud and election crimes related to his 2016 campaign?

While don't support Trump in any way, it amuses me how the number 34 is so important to some folks as if that was worse than if he had paid back Cohen with one payment and it have been 3 counts.  What's the difference between 3 counts vs 34 when the underlying activity is the same?  11 checks plus 11 vouchers plus 12 book entries vs 1 check, 1 voucher and 1 book entry?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.32  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    3 months ago

What does that have to do with what he will do for the country if elected

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.33  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    3 months ago

Biden has done an awful lot of damage with just a phone and a pen.

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.34  bccrane  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.31    3 months ago

It's called overcharging to get the best chance for the desired outcome for the prosecution, a conviction.  The jury seen this, there was no way they could just pick out one check, voucher, or entry and dismiss the rest when all were considered equal, it would've made no sense, it was guilty of all or none no middle ground.  A wise judge in this position would've demanded the prosecution lump all together or as you put it, into 3 separate charges.  What's the difference between 1 felony or 34 felonies, sensationalism, headlines, campaign ads, and political hit points.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.35  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    3 months ago

Those articles would have the actual facts then rather than the daily dump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.36  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.23    3 months ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.12    3 months ago

'They're doing this for me' - yes - they were, at his incitement - ever since #34 lost the election up until that day and at his hours long incitement telling them at the beginning of his hours of lies and further incitement to go patriotically ONCE, at the beginning of his BIG LIE and continued lies and incitement for hours and then told these right wing extremists TO FIGHT LIKE HELL OR THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.38  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.1.30    3 months ago
As if Trump has not just been convicted of 34 felony counts of fraud and election crimes related to his 2016 campaign?

You mean the 34 misdemeanor that were filed AFTER the statute of limitations expired?  And didn't the SCOTUS recently rule that a conviction must come from a UNANIMUS decision by the Jury?  That kind of throws a wrench in the "conviction" you seem so proud of.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.39  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.29    3 months ago

I remember something about offering to have NG on stand by.  And wasn't that shot down by the Speaker at the time?  The same Speaker who is on video saying "we should have done more to prevent this". 

But lets forget putting things in place to prevent the protest and focus on fictional shit.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.40  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.13    3 months ago

Yup, he incited them for hours that day and then sat back and watched it all unfold.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.41  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    3 months ago
No. The debate should be about the policies of the two men who both served as President.

True, the problem is that trump has no policies other than revenge. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.1.42  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.33    3 months ago

Biden has done an awful lot of damage with just a phone and a pen.

At least he knows what those items are used for. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.42    3 months ago
At least he knows what those items are used for. 

Wow you really set the bar way high for Biden.

Imagine taking pride in your President knowing what common items are!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.44  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.41    3 months ago

Revenge & Retribution

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.45  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.41    3 months ago

I don't recall revenge being one of them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.46  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.33    3 months ago

That he has. The people must vote him out of office.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.47  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.28    3 months ago

And the two moderators are going to push the Jan 6th riot like a hot dog cart on Coney Island.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.48  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.27    3 months ago

The Biden campaign strategy: the choice between a nice old man and a "convicted felon."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.49  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.48    3 months ago

Donald Trump is a known and proven scumbag. And he is your guy.  Enough said. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.50  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.47    2 months ago

Well, it is CNN.  Not like they've been even remotely factual.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.51  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.50    2 months ago

They present this debate amid a defamation lawsuit.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.52  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.51    2 months ago

The Bidenistas swear they are 100% honest.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.53  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    2 months ago
Are you trying to say the Orange Man isnt bad ?

Clearly not what I wrote or even implied.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
2.1.54  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.31    2 months ago
What's the difference between 3 counts vs 34 when the underlying activity is the same?

31 extra charges

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.55  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.1.54    2 months ago

While I don't support him in any way . . .

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Actor Thomas Guiry, best known for portraying Scotty Smalls in the 1993 movie “The Sandlot,” was arrested earlier this month in a bizarre episode during which he allegedly hurled a dumbbell into the windshield of his neighbor’s Jeep and then held a knife at his front door.

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Troubled star of beloved '90s movie 'The Sandlot' busted after chucking dumbbell at neighbor's Jeep (nypost.com)

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 months ago
held a knife at his front door.

Gives a whole new meaning to "You're killing me Smalls!"

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.1    3 months ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @3.1    3 months ago

LMAO!

One of my daughters once gave me a T-shirt that had those words on it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

A Jewish mom and her husband were attacked and beaten at a Brooklyn elementary school graduation by an Arabic-speaking   family — who taunted them with shouts of “Free Palestine!” “Gaza is Ours!” and “Death to Israel!” she told The Post.

The mayhem erupted at PS 682 in Gravesend just after the school’s fifth-grade graduation — which was themed, ironically, “All you need is love.”

Instead, the Jewish woman’s husband was thrown to the ground by members of the other family. One man put him in a chokehold, he said. Others grabbed his legs as they kicked and punched him. One woman repeatedly whacked him with the sharp heel of a black stiletto, the mom told police.

NYC Jewish family pummeled at 5th-grade commencement by attendees shouting 'Free Palestine,' mom says (nypost.com)



Unfortunately, Biden needs those antisemite votes. He is expecting the Jewish ones too, as a given.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    3 months ago

Does 80% of US Jews voting for Biden mean they are antisemites?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.1    3 months ago

You tell me.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
4.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @4.1    3 months ago

Are you sure of that number?  Biden has pissed off a lot of Jews because of his support of Hamas.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.3  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.2    3 months ago

Yet, Biden's support among American Jews has increased...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.3    3 months ago

proof?

Are those REAL numbers, or invented ones to support some theory?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 months ago
Israel bombed a UN compound near Gaza City, killing at least eight people, a Palestinian news agency said. The Israeli military said militants were using the compound, which Hamas has denied.

Because terrorists ALWAYS tell the truth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    3 months ago

The American media has the IDF and Hamas somehow on the same level.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  JohnRussell    3 months ago
Benjamin Netanyahu, in a television interview, said that the intensive phase of Israel’s war against Hamas would end soon.

Years or decades, or whenever Netanyahu dies. Whatever comes first. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    3 months ago

Do we really want Hamas to survive?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    2 months ago
Do we really want Hamas to survive?

Some look like cheerleaders for terrorists.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
6.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @6    3 months ago

Whoever might carry on if Netanyahu is gone would follow the same path. It's what the Israeli people want.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 months ago
Years or decades, or whenever Netanyahu dies. Whatever comes first

its absolutely hilarious that you seem to think the war is the fault of Netanyahu, and not the terrorist Palestinians who raped, murdered and kidnapped Israeli civilians.

That would be akin to blaming 9/11 on the President.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Tapper and CNN's conduct is a significant part of the reason why no one trusts journalists anymore. They've destroyed their credibility.  They are partisan hacks who never learned the lesson of the boy who cried wolf.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

CNN's Jake Tapper at center of defamation lawsuit as he prepares to host presidential debate

"Jake Tapper started his career working for a Democrat politician and he has never been able to shake the habit. Trying to run cover for Biden's disastrous pullout from Afghanistan, he and his CNN show slimed a hero who saved the lives of those Biden put in jeopardy. Now CNN is facing a billion dollar defamation suit at the same time Tapper will be moderating the presidential debate featuring the politician he lied for. Unreal," Dan Schneider, Vice President at conservative media watchdog Media Research Center

yeah, the debate will be on the up and up.  /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Tony & Nick's never had a better day:


 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 months ago

Pretty pathetic if this Tony & Nick's never had a better day just because convicted felon #34 showed up.   Did he say he'd pay for everyone's meal and stiff them, like before?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.1    3 months ago

He not only paid for about 60 sandwiches, but he also left a $500. tip.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    3 months ago
He not only paid for about 60 sandwiches, but he also left a $500. tip.

Good thing he's allegedly a billionaire. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    2 months ago

Sure he did!

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Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
8.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    2 months ago
he also left a $500. tip.

i think i counted 7 employees, so what a little over $71 bucks apiece, from a supposed Billionaire...not exactly that much

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.4    2 months ago

probably more than they have ever made in one day from one order.

With most of the menu being under $15 per item, not surprising that counter-service restaurant employees don't make as much in tips as a full service establishment.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.4    2 months ago

If that's true in the first place

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
8.1.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.5    2 months ago
probably more than they have ever made in one day from one order.

These steak joints in S. Philly are pretty famous, and get a visit from many a celebrity, and i'd bet some local Sports figures have topped that tip on many an occasion , and you are possibly a little low with that $15, as i sorta recall visiting across the street a little bit back, and for 5 of us with drinks and tip, over a $100 (note: They don't sell alcoholic beverages} cause if they did, total would have been closer to $400

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.7    2 months ago
These steak joints in S. Philly are pretty famous, and get a visit from many a celebrity, and i'd bet some local Sports figures have topped that tip on many an occasion

Just because you are willing to bet isn't proof that it happened.

and you are possibly a little low with that $15, 

It is far more likely that I am not, since I got that number from their online menu, but if you have a thing to dispute it, show it, and alert the restaurant they are doing a piss-poor job of editing their online menu.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
8.1.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.8    2 months ago

It is far more likely that I am not, since I got that number from their online menu, but if you have a thing to dispute it, show it, and alert the restaurant they are doing a piss-poor job of editing their online menu.

did you factor in double meat and mushrooms Tex, cause i doubt it, so it is far more likely that you know not of that which you attempt to speak

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.9    2 months ago

I highly recommend you look the FACTS up for yourself instead of calling me a liar.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
8.1.11  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.10    2 months ago

you are lying about me calling you a liar. I stated what i paid for five people bout a month ago was over a hundred dollars! If you get just with or without, it is obviously cheaper, but there other factors that you know of not, obviously

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.11    2 months ago
you are lying about me calling you a liar.

No, I am not, You did everything BUT type the damn word. I'll not pretend otherwise.

here is a link to the menu from Grub Hub.

Please note the PRICES are exactly what I said they were--the majority of products are under $15.

Tony & Nicks Steaks Delivery Menu | Order Online | 39 E Oregon Ave Philadelphia | Grubhub

Anything other than a different menu with different prices is merely trolling at this point.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    2 months ago

And a President.

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.13    2 months ago

'And a 'president'

No, not really, not ever - a putin instillation

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.7    2 months ago

If he actually paid.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
8.1.16  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.13    2 months ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

This is the new White House Associate Communications Director.

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Another box checked!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
9.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 months ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Greg Jones @9.1    3 months ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    2 months ago

Don't "they" look sweet!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
9.3  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    2 months ago

At least your luggage will be safe.......hopefully.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
10  Thomas    3 months ago
As most decent people already know it is the American left and the Trump haters who are a clear threat to American democracy.

Any decent person knows that sentence discredits all of the information that follows. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Thomas @10    3 months ago

Can you defend your own statement?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.2  JBB  replied to  Thomas @10    3 months ago

In small MAGA minds non-MAGAs are automatically "Trump Haters"...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.2    3 months ago
In small MAGA minds non-MAGAs are automatically "Trump Haters".

It is easy to see who the Trump haters are here.

No secret!

No MAGA nonsense necessary, either!

Some seem obsessed with every move or word Trump utters.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
10.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @10.2.1    2 months ago
No MAGA nonsense necessary, either!

How else are they going to show their childish side?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.3  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @10    3 months ago

...disinformation before and following...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @10.3    2 months ago
disinformation

Hum.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.3.1    2 months ago

disinformation

Ya!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.4  Texan1211  replied to  Thomas @10    2 months ago
Any decent person knows that sentence discredits all of the information that follows. 

Including your post?

 
 

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