Jill Biden's grudge against Kamala Harris REVEALED: Power-hungry first lady's grudge is so deep that the only thing worse than Joe stepping down is the VP replacing him | Daily Mail Online
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When Kamala Harris took to the stage during a Democratic primary debate before the 2020 election and implied that Joe Biden was racist, his wife, Jill's, response was crystal clear.
'Go f**k yourself,' the then-future first lady vented, as she allegedly admitted during a conference call with supporters.
And the relationship between the two women - that began badly enough during that contentious battle for the presidential nomination - has only gone downhill from there.
Now, political insiders have told DailyMail.com that Democratic advisors are struggling to push past the powerful role that Jill Biden's loathing of Harris, 59, is playing in Joe's resistance to pass the mantle to his VP as pressure ratchets up for him to step down as presidential candidate and allow another Democrat tackle Donald Trump.
According to one former Democrat operative in Jill's circle, the women's long-seated animosity is 'one hundred per cent' part of Jill's resistance to having her 81-year-old husband step aside.
Because the truth, according to a source who knows the First Couple well, is that Jill's is now the only voice to which the 46th president listens.
And as far as Jill, 73, is concerned, the only thing worse than her husband stepping down would be Kamala stepping up to replace him.
The relationship between the two women, pictured together in November last year, began badly enough during the contentious 2020 primary but has only gone downhill from there
According to a source who knows the couple well, Jill is the only voice that the embattled Commander-in-Chief will listen to
The bad blood between the First Lady and the Vice President, a feeling so strong that one source described it as, 'hatred,' dates to June 2019, when Kamala was running against Biden and condemned him during a televised debate for opposing aspects of mandatory busing for school desegregation.
'Jill holds grudges,' one Democrat insider revealed. 'She doesn't let things go and she has never forgiven Kamala for comments that some took to be allegations of racism.'
According to one insider, that was the reason she never wanted Kamala to be her husband's number two in the first place.
They said, 'Jill was trying to stop Kamala joining the Biden ticket in 2020. She has hated her ever since the school bus thing.
'But she bit her tongue because Biden boxed himself into a corner by saying he would pick a black woman for his running mate.'
In recent days Biden has come under almost relentless pressure to step down.
Eighteen House Democrats - three of them after Biden's 'big boy' press conference at the NATO summit - and one Senator have now called on the President to drop out of the 2024 race for the White House.
On Wednesday, Hollywood star and, until now, staunch Biden supporter George Clooney added his voice to the growing clamor for Biden to step down.
The diehard Democrat had been reluctant to speak out against Biden despite the snowballing concerns for the President's mental fitness for office.
But on Wednesday Clooney - who co-hosted a June fundraiser that netted $28 million for Biden's campaign - penned a scathing op-ed for the New York Times in which he stated categorically that it was time for Biden to go.
George Clooney visited the White House where he was honored by the President in 2022. On Wednesday the New York Times published a scathing op-ed by the actor calling for Biden to stand down
He wrote, 'I love Joe Biden. I consider him a friend, and I believe in him. Believe in his character. Believe in his morals. In the last four years he's won many of the battles he's faced.
'But the one battle he cannot win is the fight against time. None of us can. It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe 'big F***ing deal' Biden of 2010.
'He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.'
Former Maryland Attorney General and Democrat Doug Gansler seconded Clooney's take telling DailyMail.com, Thursday, that he believes Biden will ultimately 'do the right thing' and step down.
Gansler, who worked closely with both Kamala and Beau Biden during their days as Attorneys General for California and Delaware respectively, said that he believed it would be 'hard to imagine someone more qualified' than her to become the next President.
He pointed out that, whatever Jill and Kamala's relationship, 'Joe Biden picked her and arguably in some way he was elected President because he picked her.'
He added, 'He's the antithesis of Donald Trump. He's been in politics half a decade and he's always done it for the right reasons.
'On some level I believe Biden recognizes he cannot win the election. He couldn't win it before the debate and he certainly can't win it after it.'
It was Biden's disastrous June 27 debate performance against Trump coupled with his failure to recover from it with subsequent public appearances - a garbled radio phone-in and an unconvincing interview with ABC - that triggered calls for him to step down.
But according to one well-placed source while the light of public scrutiny is trained on Biden's mental acuity, the real power behind the throne is Jill, who wants to stay in the White House almost as much as she wants to keep Harris out of it.
The source told DailyMail.com, 'Jill has become consumed by the power and prestige of the presidency and what that means to her.'
The source pointed out that in January 2022 the Marine Corps band performed an original composition entitled, 'Fanfare for the First Lady,' essentially Jill's personal 'Hail to the Chief.'
The tune is to be performed and repeated at official White House functions from her first appearance until she is ready to speak.
It is all a very long way from the Jill that a long-time associate recalled as a humble 'common' person who exercised at the YMCA in downtown Wilmington and could never be regarded as 'full of herself.'
According to one well-placed source the real power behind the throne is Jill who wants to stay in the White House almost as much as she wants to keep Kamala out of it
Jill has taken front and center stage during Biden's campaign for four more years
Now, according to one, 'It's not about Kamala and it's not really about Joe. It's more about her holding on to her status as First Lady. She doesn't want to give that up.'
Another voiced the way that Jill is 'absolutely unwavering about Joe staying [in the race] but if he is forced out or opts out, she would be fully opposed to Kamala replacing him.'
One insider revealed, 'Kamala never runs competent organizations. Every office, every campaign, devolves into toxicity. And Jill is keenly protective of Joe's legacy.'
Still, one former Democrat insider familiar with the players said that they believed Jill's 'pragmatism' may ultimately hold sway.
And some say it is precisely her prioritizing of her husband's legacy that could convince Jill to flip and counsel her husband to step aside.
According to one well-placed source, as more and more party faithful voice their belief that Biden will lose to Trump, even Jill will be forced to admit that the most likely outcome of her husband's candidacy is one that will 'throw his legacy in the trash'.
And not even her hatred of Kamala can trump that.
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There is also that cat fight going on behind the scenes.
What to do about Kamala?
Prove it.
Nothing needs to be "done".
Of course you could pick American sources instead of the British version of the National Enquirer. (Daily Mail/Mail online, Questionable source, MBFC)
Is the sourcing for character assassination so slim you have to cross the pond for that satisfaction?
When they're grasping at straws they'll latch on to anything within their reach.
The article.
Nothing needs to be "done".
I see.
Fake news is not proof of anything.
You told us that about Joe's condition two weeks ago.
What do you think is fake in the seed?
I said his condition was fake? Really.
I don't believe any of it.
So you don't believe that happened?...
I saw the title and the source and there was no need to read further
The only types of sources ever provided
Yeah, yeah...
You know that's not what I'm referring to.
So now unnamed, unidentifiable, sources are "fake news". Funny how the media and leftists believed them all during the Russian collusion scandal, and any other thing that was anti Trump.
The media regurgitated the stories between themselves and those sources became gospel among leftists.
In fact the New York times and Washington Post won Pulitzer awards for their bogus coverage.
So this is just a valid of article as anything those publications made.
Prove it wrong.
none of us can prove it wrong, but lets look at a few things here. Many persons in Trumps close orbit were found to have been in alliance with Russia (Manafort, Bannon, etc as 34 total indicted) Try reading the vSenatesbipartisan final report so as you can see how wrong you have become
Yea, funny you ahould mention these other examples, yet not that of the most recent completely blatant outstanding ones. Say like David Peckers testimony about how hev and little big Pecker head Don, would write some real creative stories about Trumps political rivals. Or how about the Benghazi style witchunt put on recently by Jim Comer and Loudermilk or whatever that pos 's name was. As their big source for MUCH, was the ole Russian reliable source who turned out to be a paid TRussian Miss informant feeding LIES about our POTUS to achieve Political gains while being unknowing fools played by Putin. Putin again inserting himself and Mutha Russia into the heart of our Countries elections for President, WTF people !
Your tabloid trash 'article' is proof of nothing.
Discuss the topic - don't denigrate the source you don't like.
The topic is as worthless as the source.
When did you become a moderator?
Your point about the subject of the seed???
Note - "subject" - not "source".
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No proof need, as it is effen obvious.
Maybe someday you can find your way clear to post something other than far right wing inuendo, propaganda and lies. Sad that is all the far right has.
Far right wing innuendo? politico?
”It becomes a moment in which Harris receives a bump in the polls. It’s very temporary. And in exchange for that slight bump, she earns a very visceral reaction from Jill Biden, who essentially says, “Go fuck yourself.”
“So Jill Biden is very angry about this. There was one moment in 2022 where Jill Biden goes to a fundraiser in San Francisco, which is Kamala Harris’ home turf,”
after reading your lead, one should have more respect for Jill, unless she's up that hill jackin jack...
What a stupid 'article'.
The Daily Mail - 'nuff said.
This sure sounds like it's a Pecker expose, is that you Pecker?
Clearly an article designed to make the Dems look like they are in turmoil. It's a BS article. Nothing but fake BS.
1) Political insiders(?) List them.
2) The Daily Mail is a far right wing fake news site.
Enjoy your night.
1) Please.... you think that's not the norm?
2) Is the Business Insider a far right wing fake news site?
You as well.
So...you can't list even one? Wow.
So,... you've never jumped into an anti-Trump seed that had unnamed "political insiders" referred to? Really? Cause I don't think that's true.
Maybe we should see if we could get 51 former "intelligence" officers to sign off on it and verify it!
Like I said, you can't name even one....
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How convenient.....
Exactly and nothing could be further from the truth.
Wow, ya got one right, good job.
You really need the S/ ?
Come on, man, you have been here long enough that the "/s" is ALWAYS NECESSARY.
Sadly.
When all the physical mannerisms involved in communicating are not visible to the senses the answer is yes.
Pretty obvious that the dem party is in turmoil to anyone paying any attention at all. No physical mannerisms needed.
I am well aware of the turmoil, however, this 'article' is trying its utmost to drench it in whatever burns bullocks the best to satisfy its readership. It has been seeded here for the same ignoble purposes.
Which has nothing to do with if an S/ is needed after the comment 3.2. That is called deflection
Most folks recognize sarcasm.
Call it what you will, however, the story is from 2019 so why oh why is the Daily Mail along with the Washington Examiner resurrecting it today other than 'you the people' are about to be deluged with anti-Harris messaging. This is all about to get really effing boring red-rinse-repeat meat.
Why is sarcasm so difficult to detect in texts and emails?
Nothing wrong with sowing the seeds of political desperation for Democrats.
Not just 2019:
“This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America’s Future” ( $29.99 ), by NYT’s Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns, reveals some frustrations at the highest echelons of the White House between the Biden and Harris camps, as well as the VP’s angst over the policy portfolio she was given.
Since I don't read much past the title on 'articles' like this, of course I didn't know this was from 2019.
So desperate.
It is plainly obvious Democrats are in turmoil.
Whenever you have a long-time politician sitting in the WH that has handled the budget, the deficit, the border, inflation, and wars in the world as well as Biden has and you still have some prominent former supporters dropping you, along with members of your own party imploring you to drop out, YES, that is turmoil.
Failure to recognize this is simply denying reality.
The Democrats have never been more united behind one overarching goal -- defeating Trump. Of course, there are onging discussions as to how best to achieve that objective, but there isn't a single Democrat, or right-thinking American for that matter, who doesn't support that aim unhesitatingly 100%.
Unfortunately, far too many 'right'
thinkers
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But they clearly are.
"The source pointed out that in January 2022 the Marine Corps band performed an original composition entitled, 'Fanfare for the First Lady,' essentially Jill's personal 'Hail to the Chief.'"
Just a few factoids to add, Fanfare was composed by Rebecca Burkhardt to commemorate the address by First Lady Michelle Obama to the 2011 University of Northern Iowa Graduating Class, May 7, 2011. Performed by the Northern Iowa Symphony Orchestra.
You can hear it here:
Hoping a moderator will step in the get this thread back on topic.
I don't believe the topic is to rag on the source of the material posted - ya think???
JMHO
The topic appears to be some teenage prurient lust for an innuendo laden cat fight. Divide and conquer nonsense to be drooled over by the 'right' kind of people.
JMDO
When the source is garbage, of course.
Exactamundo!
And, yet, you can't discuss the topic.
The topic is 4 years old and that kinda makes why its resurrection today is the real topic.
Yet the topic is extremely appropriate for discussion today with the state the Democratic Party is in.
So you would be cool with articles detailing how 4'-11" Karen Pence was pissed off at 5'-11" Melania Trump wearing 4" heels when standing next to her.
Wouldn't give a damn about it, and certainly would never, ever whine about it.
Why the fuck would I care?
Come to think of it, why do YOU care so much about this story?
I have a strong dislike for b.s.
okey dokey.
Tabloid trash with nameless ambiguous 'sources' like democrat insiders and alleged allegations and just basically bogus bullshit false 'gossip'
Hallux - teenage is exactly the age level if not lower for this immature type of trash
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right wing media is turning themselves into gossip mongers
I wonder where they learned how to do that? Oh, that's right, CNN and MSNBC have been doing it for years.
Joe Biden after 8 years as VP, had the experience to help Kamala grow into the position. Yet until this campaign started, the Biden administration has made little attempt to shift public perception or improve her standing.
The was especially important as given Joe’s age, she might been called upon to replace him. Over four years they have done little to make Harris into a trusted, leader. Instead, it gave her mission impossible with the border and let her dangle with very low popularity numbers.
Why?
Short sighted goals. Enough boxes checked to get Joe elected without any actual long term plan for her.
Yes and perhaps because of Jill’s grudge.
Based on what? Beauty Shop gossip? The Five on Fox?
There is no evidence other than rightwing speculation...
Vice President Kamala Harris supports President Biden.
“With what he cares about, what he fights for, what he’s committed to, you get up there and call him a racist without basis?” “Go fuck yourself,” she continued. Her press secretary, Michael LaRosa, did not dispute the quote, but said, “the first lady and her team do not plan to comment on any of [the retellings of the 2020 campaign.]”
The Daily Beast isn’t right wing neither is Politico.
Why do you think the Biden Administration didn’t help Kamala?
Further proof that she isn't too bright..........
aren't all media outlets considered right wing if they criticize anything about Biden?
They needed to check the blocks to "attempt" to cover all the bases - except for the one box labeled "Qualified with necessary experience".
Whether it is true or not. . . its a non-issue. Biden/Harris is a ticket for the politicians and the nation. . . . Of course, the 'whisperers' are only in it for any negativism they can squeeze out of it on the rumor 'mill.' As if Jill and Kamala potentially disliking each other has any bearing on the nation and politics as a whole. It does not.
I guess it makes sense for Joe to back out and give the nomination to her. I haven't been called a misogynistic racist in a few months and I have a feeling I will say something negative about her somewhere along the way.
That's really ironic considering the left wing media has pushed lies to benefit Biden--like the whole Hunter Biden laptop thing.
Has any media YOU consider left wing ever asked Biden about his claim that inflation was over 9% when he took office?
Have any ever asked Joe how he defeated Medicare yet?
Trumpists with their whisper campaigns. . .but can't see their way clear to talking about dumb Donald and his mistresses while wife pregnant and how that must have made the mistresses feel cheap! Donald: The sex whore. Once upon a time, sex whores would not be allowed to run for dog catchers. How times have changed.
Yes, JFK was a trend setter...
And let's not forget Bubba...
Don't forget anybody, just do INCLUDE Donald!
Why? Was he involved in a sex scandal while in office?
"You" the collective you, play 'dodge' all you want.
It wasn't a dodge. It was a very simple question.
If the collective you can't see the obvious bias in "your" failure to criticize Donald for being a male who whored or whores around then "you" don't need to waste my time pointing a finger in anybody else direction. Take pointless commenting to somebody who wants to play games with it. Of course, "you" get to have the last word.
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Yet more...
Yea, the good ole days:
The Media gaslit us for years about Joe's cognitive decline. He was cooked when he started running the first time. Amazing watching them finally admit it wasn't a conspiracy.
There are no good options here, on one hand Kamala is the easy choice but she has no cognitive decline and still struggles to speak publicly. She has few accomplishments in her career other than a DEI selected VP for white liberal voters.
On the other hand there is the egomaniac blow hard Trump with a limited vocabulary. Prepare for terms like mostest best, and goodest bestes ever.
Chad, I am going to have to let that 'stew' for a bit longer. It's not quite 'done' yet. If you get my drift.
it is a little surprising that the media at large has finally decided to note Biden's decline.
While it may well be very true that Harris hasn't suffered any cognitive decline, what does it really say about her "ability" for cognitive recognition of problems to start with?
America is screwed no matter which loser "wins".