A Triumphant Return
Link to quote: Full text: President Trump's 2020 RNC acceptance speech (nbcnews.com)
Last night Donald Trump accepted his party's nomination and set a new record for the longest convention speech ever (over 90 minutes) according to "The American Presidency Project." It came only five days after he was nearly killed by a gunman. The speech was supposed to be about unity and going forward on a positive note. I kind of wish Trump had stuck with that, but he couldn't resist striking back at the policies of Joe Biden, though he only mentioned Biden's name once. The speech was very low key for Trump, and most of it was clearly off script. Nonetheless, Trump pledged to be President for all of America.
The first thirty minutes of the speech were perfect: “Our society must be healed" he told a rapt audience after revealing what it was like to surviving an assassination attempt. The low point was again returning to what democrats did to win the 2020 election. Whatever happened is over and is better left to historians.
That being said, I had little problem with the following:
"At the Democrat National Convention, Joe Biden and his party repeatedly assailed America as a land of racial, economic, and social injustice. So tonight, I ask you a very simple question: How can the Democrat Party ask to lead our country when it spends so much time tearing down our country?
In the left’s backward view, they do not see America as the most free, just, and exceptional nation on earth. Instead, they see a wicked nation that must be punished for its sins."
He also said that Americans deserve better. He honored the man who died during the assassination attempt and departs the convention with a lead in the polls for the first time in three presidential campaigns.
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Question of the day:
The RNC hosted a great Convention. Did Donald Trump really close the deal?
uh, no. they just know what will happen in november if they show their true intent towards women's freedom of bodily autonomy. no worries, democrats will remind voters ever day until then...
They took the abortion issue right off the table.
How is Biden feeling?
... the maga table.
We'll give Kamala a chance if they stiff Joe for her.
By the Republicans taking a more moderate and realistic position on abortion, the Dems have lost any supposed advantage on the issue.
The problem is the democrats will lie about trumps position on abortion and their propaganda arm will not call them out on it and will gleefully repeat it, I saw an interview today with Bidens campaign manager where he said that trump will institute a nationwide abortion ban and the person interviewing him just nodded his head.
Or he will:
I know you are as concerned about President Biden's well-being as I am about the former 'president's'
'Or he will'
Awesome!
Im trying to figure out where the 'triumphant' part fits in...
Keep figuring and it will come to you.
Oh no, enlighten me oh wise one.
No, you need to do this on your own.
Translation: "I have no idea". Got it..
A triumphant return from the equivalent of a shaving cut or nick.
I see.
No big deal.
How is Biden feeling?
No. No big deal at all.
Nobody knows. he's back to the basement.
Is that the same basement Trump used to hide from the Rep. debates?
The same basement Biden "prepped" for the debate in.
He was hardly hiding. If I remember correctly, he was having rallies during the debates.
And the same one he was in in 2020
Perspective, all is perspective.
You're correct. Amazing how one held rallies and did well while the other needed a week to prep and was still bumbling around like, well Joe Biden.
The only perspective is Joe was physically hiding in his basement; while Trump was on the campaign trail.
Joe is hiding in his basement again- this time from the Democrat party.
For someone who spends so much time in the basement, he has caught covid a lot.
Well, at least he wasn't standing trial and being found guilty.
Exactly, Hur declined to charge Biden since the president could portray himself as an "elderly man with a poor memory" who would be sympathetic to a jury.
Hur was slammed by Dems who now call on Biden to withdraw from the campaign.
Sounds like someone been peeking in some windows.
being on the outside looking in , it seems to me the only ones that think trials and convictions matter are the ones that think that should work .
whether the trials happen or not or if there are convictions doesnt seem to matter to trump , and if it doesnt matter to him his supporters wont care either , then there are the actual voters , they have their different take watching it all go down . and its pretty much built up that , those things just dont matter .
to the consternation of those that think it should and should have worked .
Nothing short of actually hauling Trump off to Terre Haute in legirons with a red gag in mouth will convince Trump or his MAGA!
"No Man Is Above The Law!"
He faces sentencing for 34 felony counts.
Next Month!
shitting in one hand , wishing in the other , we all know which fills first .
If you say so.................
I’m amazed at the reaction of some to the death of one man and the serious wounding of two others in this shooting of Trump. I think the attitude is that they were despicable, so what if they got shot for attending.
We have become an extremely angry people and are indifferent to the suffering of others that don’t think like our tribe.
They dehumanized Trump and all those who support him.
Eventually, we will have to hold them accountable.
Too late for that, after 60+ years of sculpted education we commies have your foolish children under our fullish control.
Was it Jane Fonda who said that about 60 years ago?
I don't have a fixation with Ms Fonda, I'm more of a Hedy Lamarr kinda guy.
Glad to hear it.
Jane Fonda was a traitor.
Unlike Jane, Hedy was both smart and beautiful.
Depending on your dictionary forgive and forget are neighbors ... after 53 years it's time to reread the definitions.
I'm not going to waste my time reading whatever that is you have provided. I wasted far too much time already reading some of the transcript of the former 'president's' convicted felon and rapist whackjob/freak show/kiss the fat ass and suck the mushroom of the AKA RNC convention, 'speech'
Well it was nothing to read but rather look at. Let me help you out here. This is what the link was..............
And if you open it, the picture is much clearer.
Thanks for nothing. I've seen the fucking picture before. Like a bad shaving cut, yup.
You mean like this?
The hypocrisy of some Trumpists is boundless.
looking at the picture it seems as though he may have lost a very small part of the upper rim of his ear.
But that is not a lot of blood by any objective measurement.
It shouldn't really. It's not like it's anything we haven't already seen from the left.
Also, the doctor said it, the former 'president' said - 'the ears bleed a lot' or something like that.
I always thought the opposite.
I think the same thing. Only thing is, it was where the ear attached to the head. That could be a bit different than just the cartilage.
Could be
Wounds to the head can bleed more than wounds to other parts of the body.
Don't worry there is a Russian military meat grinder waiting for them if Joe let's NATO push him around to much. Or maybe it will just go straight to nuclear war; and they can see what it is like glowing in the dark for the last few seconds of their half life realizing that Fallout is just a video game.
Jane is still smart and beautiful, Hedy was brilliant and beautiful.
It's crazy, so long ago, I used to work for a plastic surgeon and he had a small surgery in his office where I would assist. Anyway, you are of course correct, I can't (well I can) believe I forgot that but it was many many years ago.
When the entire campaign is based on "Trump being a threat to democracy," there is bound to be a nut with a gun.
forgive , maybe , forget , never , hope she likes the smell of urine and feces .
didnt she come up with skip frequency we count on for cell phones ? she developed that back during WW2 if this is the same person .
Except, it's not.
Thoughts and prayers.
trump will probably be wearing that ear bandage prop until november...
Maybe longer if that ear has been deformed.
Meh, he can cover that up with the Purple Heart he was given,
You mean the one Biden earned in the two world wars.
Ronny Johnson … uh, Jackson … is probably surgically cutting a bullet hole through his cartilage right now.
cordless drill, 3/8 inch bit ...
Ten bucks says he operates on the wrong ear.
trump could always move his head at the last second too.
Trump might emerge from that operation with a drill hole in the middle of his forehead.
... a leather punch seems more appropriate.
... hammer drill. 1/2 x 14 inch bit ...
Prop indeed - the ear looked fully intact after the 'incident'
The bandage is fake. It is NOT how an ear wound is bandaged.
Maybe you should let them know so they can do it the way you think they should
Perhaps it depends on the nature and specific location.
The one he gave his dead uncle.
That's to keep the mites from fleeing.
You'd think he'd show the ear as a badge of honor or courage -
- doesn't take any courage to miss a bullet
That information comes from a nurse of 38 years, including many years as an Emergency Room nurse. I'll take her opinion over any PR job by Trump.
Thanks for providing comfirmation for my point.
Sure thing, anytime. It’s good to clarify the critical.
Again, thanks for providing confirmation of my point. Notice how the bandage is, appropriately, wrapped around the wounded area. Trump's fake is not.
Who could miss it. Apparently Trump could have gone for a bigger and more conspicuous bandage.
Again, perhaps differences are due to type of wound, specific location and even who is providing the treatment.
Kind of hard wrapping something that is basically right up against his skull for the most part.
The cannibals are probably wearing it.
Second guessing the actual person treating the wound when you are not there seems a bit ridiculous
You mean the one Trump stole from a veteran?
Yep.
dont blame you there , but when the job is left to non trained medical people such as self or family , you settle for what you get and what works .
Yeah, but what about his deformed personality?
You don't think Trump is receiving appropriate medical attention? He never goes anywhere without a huge parade of vehicles that always seems to include an ambulance. I doubt that Jared is driving it.
what i am saying is a simple bandage or dressing change doesnt normally requires trained medical staff. most people make do with what they can.
granted this is trump and many think he has paid emplyees to wipe his ass as well, we know biden does .
I have wondered though , when biden has a blow out , whats the rule there the one closest that smealt it is dealt the clean up detail?
Mark,, more often than not, I agree with you and you post reasonable responses....but this time? The man has lived a life or privilege his entire life. If I was stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire and I had to pick between Biden and Trump, I would pick Biden every day of the week. Seriously, look at trump, he's never known a days work in his life. I am sure you have had demeaning physical jobs,...I spent 2 years shoveling wet sand under a rock crusher....I am sure we have both worked our asses off, but trump? Never. Can we at least agree that if he could find someone to wipe his ass for him, he would? Nuf said.
too bad true sarcasm does not lend itself well to the written / typed word .
i will agree , trump has lived a life of privilige , only a fool would deny it , one of those priviliges is the ability to hire others to do things one doesnt want oe have time to do . so if he wishes to and can afford to pay someone to do it , more power to him .
I think this is where we differ . yes i have had to do strenuous physical labor , I as well have worked on a crusher , as well as a gravel wash plant . didnt take me long to go from starting hand to also doing pre run and shutdown maint , or doing start up and making sure everything was fed right . and running correctly .
every member of the crews i was on , knew what a shovel was and how to use one and no one was exempt from haveing to get dirty using one .
was that demeaning work ? not if it was honest work being paid an honest wage in decent hours , with decent crewmembers. if it was demeaning to you , i would have to guess there was other issues involved and that maybe you felt that type of work beneath your capabilities . that would mean you demeaned yourself .
I will touch on biden here . he has spend over 50 years working for government .
He is 81 , so first 20 or so years are covered growing up , going to school getting an education . IF my math is right he went into politics and government work right around the time he hit 30 , so what did he do in that short span of time between getting out of school to include college , and going into politics ? what was his listed occupation during that short time before politics that was not demeaning to him? I dont know anyone that has been able to tell me .
Now what i am about to say will surprise not only you but most of the people on the site .
IF Biden decides to end his campaign , i think it is perfectly fine he finish his elected term and leave in Jan , with dignity .
if it goes other ways , then they get dealt with as they present themselves .
he does have an elaborate comb over...
In true Trump fashion the name on the firefighter coat was spelled wrong.
I have to give you some credit.
You correctly predicted that Trump wouldn't stick to a unity speech for long.
I was wrong. I predicted half unity and half self important bullshit , and we got 2 or 3 percent unity and mountains of self aggrandizing bullshit.
In a sane world Republicans would be horrified by what they saw last night.
Oh, I didn't realize you went that far.
Sorry.
That's exactly right John, of what I read, and skimmed through the rest, too much bullshit to wade through
Indeed, what a freak show.
Exactly, Donald failed to do a spell check.
You know how it is with those Italian names.
Maybe not as bad as referring to your SecDef, Lloyd Austin, as black man.
Perhaps not.
You really don't expect the plantation owner to remember the names of everyone who works the fields for him do you? he has people for that.
That's how it was received from the fire department, I don't think Trump sews names on bunker gear.
They have a crew of hundreds at these conventions . It would have been simple for one of them to make sure their prop was in order.
Sigh.....
Ok, I apologize.
I have to say though, and I was in the graphics business, that when letters dont fit into a designated space all you do is make the font size a little smaller. But I guess thats on the fire department.
It was also in the New York Post.
However, what you said about "Trump misspelling it" is what the media ran with.
No, he has someone else do it for him....probably at the taxpayers expense.
This speech was a S.. L.. O.. W.. motion train wreck, empahsis on SLOW.
It is endlessly both amusing and befuddling that some Republicans think Trump will EVER stop talking about 2020. Here's a tip for you - HE DOESNT WANT TO. He''ll still be mumbling some lie about the box of votes under the table in Georgia when they close the casket on him one day.
This was supposed to be about unity. Other than him literally mentioning the word a time or two there was nothing unifying about this speech, and to boot half the time he looked very lethargic, almost disinterested in what he was reading.
If there was any self-reflection in the Republican Party they would be this morning calling for the same sort of 'panic' we see from the Democrats right now.
You do see the problem with that, right? Fulton county stopped the vote count because of what they initially called a burst pipe (there was only a backed-up toilet if even that can be believed). So, the observers and reporters had to leave and in private the vote count resumed. Even if they did nothing wrong, that sure as hell looked like vote tampering.
This was supposed to be about unity. Other than him literally mentioning the word a time or two there was nothing unifying about this speech, and to boot half the time he looked very lethargic, almost disinterested in what he was reading.
Look back at the first 30 minutes. One third of that long speech was on unity. My concern was that he was not only very low key, but even seemed tired to me. Maybe it is understandable. Maybe he should have only shown up on the final night.
If there was any self-reflection in the Republican Party they would be this morning calling for the same sort of 'panic' we see from the Democrats right now.
No John, we have to finally get it settled. Either we live the progressive's way or the people's way.
Progressives way IS the people's way.
I love it when regressives use the internet to bash progressives. You don't like progressives? Fine, get in your rock cave and go back to banging out messages on rock tablets.
Of course he got tired of the script that was prepared and rambled off teleprompter several times
more than several
The majority?
One thing we know, he didn't have to be hidden & removed by his own party.
didn't watch all of it. It dragged on. Seemed like if he cut it after 20 minutes it would have been a very good speech. The rambling nature of the second half of the speech was like peak Biden before his brain broke. He was enjoying himself with the riffs but the impact suffered. Brevity is much better in these things.
The whole thing was rambling, intermittently and sporadically broken by his actual reading of what was in the text.
Correct again!
Reminds me of Jim Jones. I recently watched the 3 part series on him on Hulu and another about the women behind it all. Scary stuff.
Sadly, I have to agree.
Sadly, I have to agree
The image of the night was hulk hogan. Trump’s speech will be forgotten by tomorrow and end up being irrelevant, especially with all the twists and turns this campaign will take.
I liked the way they had ordinary people speaking.
I do want everyone to know what the Trump haters are like.
Whoopi Goldberg mocked Trump’s 17-year-old granddaughter’s speech.
Whoopi Goldberg: ‘Don’t Fall for’ Granddaughter ‘Humanizing’ Trump at RNC (yahoo.com)
How low can they go?
She is unpleasant
Imagine attacking an innocent 17-year-old.
... just ask matt gaetz.
He prefers to be called Mattricia?
Making fun of someone's appearance is so, what's the word? Woke. Yeah, that's it. Woke.
That picture reminds me of jack Nickolson in the first Batman movie ....
he needs to gaetz less botox ....
yeah even i consider that low hanging fruit ....
Matt Gaetz is 42 years old. Why would he need facial work done unless he already realized he was weird looking?
Good idea to play that angle up, I am sure it will cost him thousands of votes. S/
"Facial Feminization" is "pre-transitioning".
Carley Simon song comes to mind
why would i care about how many votes matt gaetz gets ?
He is a republican
This just in:
T he Biden campaign on Thursday ripped former President Trump’s convention speech as a rambling attempt to mask his “extreme vision” for a second term, while touting President Biden’s intention to stay in the race.
Biden campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon in a statement sought to connect Trump to Project 2025, a controversial policy blueprint from the Heritage Foundation that Trump and his team have aggressively tried to distance themselves from.
Biden ‘more determined than ever’ to beat Trump after RNC speech, campaign says (msn.com)
Stick with it Joe!
So now the Biden camp is ragging on Trump for what he didn't say? And that's supposed to lower the temperature and unify the country?
You know, maybe we should be blaming the kid with matches for starting the fire. Just sayin' ...
They have always claimed to know what he is really thinking.
Maggie Haberman has made a living at it.
Okay, maybe I saw a different speech. Could someone, please, explain why Trump's rambling keynote address was divisive?
Maybe because the review was already done before the speech
I know what you mean. Listing policy differences is fine, but don't you think recalling the 2020 election is counter productive?
I must have missed Trump's rant that the election was stolen. I only heard Trump mention the 2020 election a couple of times in passing remarks. Certainly wasn't anything like Trump's previous remarks and didn't rise to the level of Biden's brag of being the only candidate to beat Trump.
If Trump had completely ignored the 2020 election then Democrats would raise the roof claiming Trump denied what he did. So, yeah, Trump had to mention it.
Even to mention it in passing allows them to say "but you couldn't prove anything."
Isn't that how gaslighting works? There's is no way on God's green earth that Donald Trump could convince die-hard Democrats to vote for him. Trump turning hard left, like Joe Biden, ain't unity. Waiting for Karine Jean-Pierre to complement Trump on a unifying speech seems to be buying into an extraordinarily partisan expectation.
Trump was talking to independents and undecided voters. Was Trump's rambling address divisive for independents? I didn't see it that way but it's quite possible I missed something.
I think you have a valid point. Trump didn't demonize his opponents as Biden and the media have done.
Was Trump's rambling address divisive for independents?
I don't know. I think the events of this past year may have more influence on independents than anything Trump said last night.
Well, i don't fully agree with that. If Trump's speech was unimportant then the Biden camp wouldn't be accusing Trump for what he didn't say.
IMO the Republican convention, topped off by Trump's rambling story telling style, has made blue the new brown. And there's a lot of blue stained undies this morning. Democrats are going to be throwing a lot of blue at the wall to see what sticks.
Do you understand that Trump's style is very much like country conversation on the porch? Trump wasn't talking at you, like most politicians, Trump was talking to you. And the talk has to roam, wander, and meander through all the hills and hollers before it gets to where it's going. Have you ever heard the conversation when people are shelling beans, plucking chickens, or piecing together a quilt? It's a way of just enjoying each others company. Trump just sits on the bench, takes out a jack knife, whittles a stick, and chews the fat. Good to see ya, let's sit a spell. If you're in a hurry to get to the point then you'll probably miss it.
.. or sits on a golden toilet at 4am while shitting, jerking off, and tweeting on truth social
Wouldn't know. Don't hang out in gay bars. I have heard they're a little different. Thanks for the insight from the other side of the aisle.
I don't drink or participate in xtian nationalist full contact sports.
Well, duh. Top notch on the women's swim team?
didn't qualify. rudder created too much water resistance and the thumper gals kept climbing the mast.
I've been to many gay bars in my time and dev is correct, as usual. That's what you'd see at those faux small c christian nationalist types contact sports
all kinds of freaky sick perverted shit in their closets
I'd say not that there's anything wrong with that - I don't care what people do - except the ones who are 'always ramming down our throats' their brand of morality, or lack thereof
That's quite a tail. Has someone been screwing the pooch again?
Yes, I do get that sense.
Cuckoo for cocoa puffs
several, and although the thought of barking did cross my mind a few times, I never asked them to ...
Sounds like an occupational hazard. Leave them squirrels alone, man.
I understand the Big Shill promised to fix all the stuff God ignored on Day 1. Hopes and Prayers ... what a combo!
He'll fix everything and fix it fast 'cause he's the only one who can
Here's some of the unifying stuff he said in his 'speech'
'and we must not criminalize dissent or demonize political disagreement, which is what is happening in our country lately at a level that nobody has ever seen before. In that spirit, the Democrat Party should immediately stop weaponizing the justice system and labeling their opponent as an enemy of Democracy. Especially since that is not true
I am the one saving Democracy for the people of our country 
If Democrats want to unify our country, they should drop these partisan witch hunts which I've been going through for approximately eight years'
and this
"And then we had that horrible, horrible result that we'll never let happen again. The election result
We're never going to let that happen again. They used Co-vid to cheat. We're never going to let it happen again."
also at one point during the speech while demonizing immigrants that are TAKING JOBS AWAY FROM BLACKS AND HISPANICS AT 107%
Breaking:
PHOENIX — Arizona won't be able to block those who sign up to vote using a federal registration form from casting a ballot in the presidential race, at least not now.
In a brief order Thursday, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a plea by Republican legislative leaders to delay a ruling by a trial judge that barring enforcement of such a ban.
In the same order, the three-judge panel also said those using that federal form still can cast their ballots by mail.
What the judges decided, however, is that anyone who tries to register to vote using a state form is required at the same time to provide documented proof of citizenship. More to the point, if they do not, the application must now be rejected.
That overturns what had been occurring.
Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer said the practice until now has been that registration requests using the state form that did not also have proof of citizenship automatically were put into the "federal only'' category, as if the applicants had submitted a federal form.
Richer said he and the other 14 county recorders will stop doing that.
But Richer noted none of this disturbs the ability of those who use the federal form in the first place to be able to cast a ballot in the presidential race.
House Speaker Ben Toma acknowledged the limited nature of the victory.
"But it's still a win,'' he told Capitol Media Services.
Decision by 9th Court Provides Clarity About Citizenship and Voter Registration in Arizona (kawc.org)
So if you want to cheat use the federal voting form.
Later, when I return, I will attend to a very big story which the media cannot ignore.
Oh dear, is Kimberly's head to be offed?
biden weaponized the secret service too ...
That was tit-4-tat, Trump had weaponized the Post Office during his term.
As an Independent voter there really are no good options in 2024. What has become ever so obvious despite the insanity of the social movements in the Democrat party is that they are largely driven by Defense contractors and weapons manufactures. I never thought I'd see the day republicans would purge the warmongers out of their party and Democrats would embrace these stains on human nature.
2024 is Nationalism vs Global Neoconism.
I never thought I'd see the day republicans would purge the warmongers decency out of their party
Both Democrats and Republicans are all politicians- there is no decency to purge to begin with.
Either they are corrupt before entering politics; and get corrupted while in office.
Those that fight to stay pure don't last long in the Establishment parties.
Only partisans can't see that.
Doesn't change what he said being true. Democrats and Republicans have swapped positions. Democrats are pro war and the military industrial complex; and Republicans have turn isolationist not wanting to get involved in other countries' garbage.
They can purge them from Congress, like the republicans did to Santos, Of course the democrats are still embracing their foreign agent Menedez because a dem vote is more important than showing actual integrity.
How you been BF?
Trump convention speech was an utter dud...