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A Triumphant Return

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  8 months ago  •  180 comments

A Triumphant Return
In a new term as President, we will again build the greatest economy in history – quickly returning to full employment, soaring incomes, and RECORD prosperity! We will DEFEND AMERICA against all threats, and protect America against all dangers. We will LEAD AMERICA into new frontiers of ambition and discovery, and we will reach for new heights of national achievement. We will rekindle new faith in our values, new pride in our history, and a new spirit of unity that can ONLY be realized...

Link to quote: Full text: President Trump's 2020 RNC acceptance speech (nbcnews.com)




Last night Donald Trump accepted his party's nomination and set a new record for the longest convention speech ever (over 90 minutes) according to "The American Presidency Project." It came only five days after he was nearly killed by a gunman. The speech was supposed to be about unity and going forward on a positive note. I kind of wish Trump had stuck with that, but he couldn't resist striking back at the policies of Joe Biden, though he only mentioned Biden's name once. The speech was very low key for Trump, and most of it was clearly off script. Nonetheless, Trump pledged to be President for all of America.

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The first thirty minutes of the speech were perfect: “Our society must be healed" he told a rapt audience after revealing what it was like to surviving an assassination attempt. The low point was again returning to what democrats did to win the 2020 election. Whatever happened is over and is better left to historians.

That being said, I had little problem with the following: 

"At the Democrat National Convention, Joe Biden and his party repeatedly assailed America as a land of racial, economic, and social injustice. So tonight, I ask you a very simple question: How can the Democrat Party ask to lead our country when it spends so much time tearing down our country?

In the left’s backward view, they do not see America as the most free, just, and exceptional nation on earth. Instead, they see a wicked nation that must be punished for its sins."

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He also said that Americans deserve better. He honored the man who died during the assassination attempt and departs the convention with a lead in the polls for the first time in three presidential campaigns.



In the news:

Biden remained in Delaware with Covid yesterday. He was taking the drug Paxlovid and had respiratory symptoms, his doctor said.

Speaker Mike Johnson said Biden should fire Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service director, over security failures before the shooting.

Hundreds of people attended a public visitation for Comperatore, the Trump supporter killed at the rally.

A tech outage has disrupted computer systems around the world. Several major airlines, including American, United and Delta, grounded all flights.

A drone struck a building in central Tel Aviv overnight, killing at least one person. The Houthis, an Iran-backed militia in Yemen, claimed responsibility for the attack.

Germany’s chancellor has vowed to overhaul the military, but his government has proposed only modest increases in military spending.

A federal appeals court blocked the Biden administration’s student repayment plan known as "SAVE" as the Court's continue to rule against Biden's unconstitutional student debt forgiveness plans.

Lou Dobbs, cable news host died at the age of 78.

By watering down its stance on abortion, the Republican Party has abandoned the Pro-Life movement according to Patrick T Brown.

 

 




 


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Good morning.

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Question of the day:

The RNC hosted a great Convention. Did Donald Trump really close the deal?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago
the Republican Party has abandoned the Pro-Life movement

uh, no. they just know what will happen in november if they show their true intent towards women's freedom of bodily autonomy. no worries, democrats will remind voters ever day until then...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1    8 months ago

They took the abortion issue right off the table.

How is Biden feeling?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    8 months ago
They took the abortion issue right off the table

... the maga table.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    8 months ago

We'll give Kamala a chance if they stiff Joe for her.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
1.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    8 months ago

By the Republicans taking a more moderate and realistic position on abortion, the Dems have lost any supposed advantage on the issue. 

 
 
 
George
Senior Expert
1.1.5  George  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.4    8 months ago

The problem is the democrats will lie about trumps position on abortion and their propaganda arm will not call them out on it and will gleefully repeat it, I saw an interview today with Bidens campaign manager where he said that trump will institute a nationwide abortion ban and the person interviewing him just nodded his head.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Hallux  replied to  George @1.1.5    8 months ago
The problem is the democrats will lie about trumps position on abortion

Or he will:

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    8 months ago

Im trying to figure out where the 'triumphant' part fits in...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
1.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.9    8 months ago

Keep figuring and it will come to you.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.10    8 months ago

Oh no, enlighten me oh wise one. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
1.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.11    8 months ago

No, you need to do this on your own.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.12    8 months ago

No, you need to do this on your own.

Translation: "I have no idea". Got it.. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    8 months ago

In true Trump fashion the name on the firefighter coat was spelled wrong. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    8 months ago

I have to give you some credit.

You correctly predicted that Trump wouldn't stick to a unity speech for long.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    8 months ago

I was wrong. I predicted half unity and half self important bullshit , and we got 2 or 3 percent unity and mountains of self aggrandizing bullshit. 

In a sane world Republicans would be horrified by what they saw last night. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    8 months ago

Oh, I didn't realize you went that far.

Sorry.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @3    8 months ago

Exactly, Donald failed to do a spell check.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2    8 months ago

You know how it is with those Italian names.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
3.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.1    8 months ago

Maybe not as bad as referring to your SecDef, Lloyd Austin, as black man.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.2    8 months ago

Perhaps not.

 
 
 
George
Senior Expert
3.2.4  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.2    8 months ago
referring to your SecDef, Lloyd Austin, as black man.

You really don't expect the plantation owner to remember the names of everyone who works the fields for him do you? he has people for that.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    8 months ago

That's how it was received from the fire department, I don't think Trump sews names on bunker gear.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3    8 months ago

They have a crew of hundreds at these conventions .  It would have been simple for one of them to make sure their prop was in order. 

 
 
 
George
Senior Expert
3.3.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.1    8 months ago

Sigh.....

“His last name wouldn’t fit on the coat, so he had the A removed to make it fit,” Aaron Newborn tweeted in response to one of the many critics accusing the president of making a tasteless mistake. Actually… that is his real coat. His last name wouldn’t fit on the coat, so he had the A removed to make it fit.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.3.2    8 months ago

Ok, I apologize. 

I have to say though, and I was in the graphics business, that when letters dont fit into a designated space all you do is make the font size a little smaller.   But I guess thats on the fire department. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.3    8 months ago

It was also in the New York Post. 

However, what you said about "Trump misspelling it" is what the media ran with.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.3.5  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3    8 months ago

That's how it was received from the fire department, I don't think Trump sews names on bunker gear.

No, he has someone else do it for him....probably at the taxpayers expense. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    8 months ago
The first thirty minutes of the speech were perfect: “Our society must be healed" he told a rapt audience after revealing what it was like to surviving an assassination attempt. The low point was again returning to what democrats did to win the 2020 election. Whatever happened is over and is better left to historians.

This speech was a S.. L.. O.. W.. motion train wreck, empahsis on SLOW. 

It is endlessly both amusing and befuddling that some Republicans think Trump will EVER stop talking about 2020. Here's a tip for you -  HE DOESNT WANT TO.  He''ll still be mumbling some lie about the box of votes under the table in Georgia when they close the casket on him one day.

This was supposed to be about unity. Other than him literally mentioning the word a time or two there was nothing unifying about this speech, and to boot half the time he looked very lethargic, almost disinterested in what he was reading. 

If there was any self-reflection in the Republican Party they would be this morning calling for the same sort of 'panic' we see from the Democrats right now.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    8 months ago
He''ll still be mumbling some lie about the box of votes under the table in Georgia when they close the casket on him one day.

You do see the problem with that, right? Fulton county stopped the vote count because of what they initially called a burst pipe (there was only a backed-up toilet if even that can be believed). So, the observers and reporters had to leave and in private the vote count resumed. Even if they did nothing wrong, that sure as hell looked like vote tampering.

This was supposed to be about unity. Other than him literally mentioning the word a time or two there was nothing unifying about this speech, and to boot half the time he looked very lethargic, almost disinterested in what he was reading. 

Look back at the first 30 minutes. One third of that long speech was on unity. My concern was that he was not only very low key, but even seemed tired to me. Maybe it is understandable. Maybe he should have only shown up on the final night.


If there was any self-reflection in the Republican Party they would be this morning calling for the same sort of 'panic' we see from the Democrats right now.  

No John, we have to finally get it settled. Either we live the progressive's way or the people's way.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    8 months ago
Either we live the progressive's way or the people's way.

Progressives way IS the people's way. 

I love it when regressives use the internet to bash progressives. You don't like progressives? Fine, get in your rock cave and go back to banging out messages on rock tablets. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

didn't watch all of it.  It dragged on.   Seemed like if he cut it after 20 minutes it would have been a very good speech. The rambling nature of the second half of the speech was like peak Biden before his brain broke. He was enjoying himself with the riffs  but the impact suffered. Brevity is much better in these things. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    8 months ago

The whole thing was rambling, intermittently and sporadically  broken by his actual reading of what was in the text. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    8 months ago

Sadly, I have to agree.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2    8 months ago

Sadly, I have to agree

The image of the night was hulk hogan.   Trump’s speech will be forgotten by tomorrow and end up being irrelevant, especially with all the twists and turns this campaign will take.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.1    8 months ago

I liked the way they had ordinary people speaking.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

I do want everyone to know what the Trump haters are like.

Whoopi Goldberg mocked Trump’s 17-year-old granddaughter’s speech.


Whoopi Goldberg: ‘Don’t Fall for’ Granddaughter ‘Humanizing’ Trump at RNC (yahoo.com)


How low can they go?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    8 months ago

She is unpleasant 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1    8 months ago

Imagine attacking an innocent 17-year-old.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    8 months ago
Imagine attacking an innocent 17-year-old.

... just ask matt gaetz.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.3  JBB  replied to  devangelical @6.1.2    8 months ago

He prefers to be called Mattricia?

original

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
6.1.4  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @6.1.3    8 months ago
He prefers to be called Mattricia?

Making fun of someone's appearance is so, what's the word?  Woke.  Yeah, that's it.  Woke.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
6.1.5  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JBB @6.1.3    8 months ago

That picture reminds me of jack Nickolson in the first Batman movie ....

he needs to gaetz  less botox ....

yeah even i consider that low hanging fruit ....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @6.1.3    8 months ago

Matt Gaetz is 42 years old. Why would he need facial work done unless he already realized he was weird looking? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
PhD Guide
6.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.6    8 months ago

Good idea to play that angle up, I am sure it will cost him thousands of votes.  S/

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.8  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.6    8 months ago

"Facial Feminization" is "pre-transitioning".

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
6.1.9  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.6    8 months ago

Carley Simon song comes to mind 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.7    8 months ago

why would i care about how many votes matt gaetz gets ? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
PhD Guide
6.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.10    8 months ago

 He is a republican 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

This just in:

T he Biden campaign on Thursday ripped former President Trump’s  convention speech  as a rambling attempt to mask his “extreme vision” for a second term, while touting President Biden’s intention to stay in the race.

Biden campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon in a statement sought  to connect Trump  to Project 2025, a controversial policy blueprint from the Heritage Foundation that Trump and his team have aggressively tried to distance themselves from.

Biden ‘more determined than ever’ to beat Trump after RNC speech, campaign says (msn.com)


Stick with it Joe!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
7.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    8 months ago
Stick with it Joe!

So now the Biden camp is ragging on Trump for what he didn't say?  And that's supposed to lower the temperature and unify the country?

You know, maybe we should be blaming the kid with matches for starting the fire.  Just sayin' ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @7.1    8 months ago

They have always claimed to know what he is really thinking.

Maggie Haberman has made a living at it.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8  Nerm_L    8 months ago

Okay, maybe I saw a different speech.  Could someone, please, explain why Trump's rambling keynote address was divisive?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
PhD Guide
8.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Nerm_L @8    8 months ago

Maybe because the review was already done before the speech

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @8    8 months ago

I know what you mean. Listing policy differences is fine, but don't you think recalling the 2020 election is counter productive?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    8 months ago
I know what you mean. Listing policy differences is fine, but don't you think recalling the 2020 election is counter productive?

I must have missed Trump's rant that the election was stolen.  I only heard Trump mention the 2020 election a couple of times in passing remarks.  Certainly wasn't anything like Trump's previous remarks and didn't rise to the level of Biden's brag of being the only candidate to beat Trump.

If Trump had completely ignored the 2020 election then Democrats would raise the roof claiming Trump denied what he did.  So, yeah, Trump had to mention it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.1    8 months ago

Even to mention it in passing allows them to say "but you couldn't prove anything."

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.2    8 months ago
Even to mention it in passing allows them to say "but you couldn't prove anything."

Isn't that how gaslighting works?  There's is no way on God's green earth that Donald Trump could convince die-hard Democrats to vote for him.  Trump turning hard left, like Joe Biden, ain't unity.  Waiting for Karine Jean-Pierre to complement Trump on a unifying speech seems to be buying into an extraordinarily partisan expectation.

Trump was talking to independents and undecided voters.  Was Trump's rambling address divisive for independents?  I didn't see it that way but it's quite possible I missed something.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.3    8 months ago

I think you have a valid point. Trump didn't demonize his opponents as Biden and the media have done.


 Was Trump's rambling address divisive for independents?

I don't know.  I think the events of this past year may have more influence on independents than anything Trump said last night.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.5  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.4    8 months ago
I don't know.  I think the events of this past year may have more influence on independents than anything Trump said last night.

Well, i don't fully agree with that.  If Trump's speech was unimportant then the Biden camp wouldn't be accusing Trump for what he didn't say.

IMO the Republican convention, topped off by Trump's rambling story telling style, has made blue the new brown.  And there's a lot of blue stained undies this morning.  Democrats are going to be throwing a lot of blue at the wall to see what sticks.

Do you understand that Trump's style is very much like country conversation on the porch?  Trump wasn't talking at you, like most politicians, Trump was talking to you.  And the talk has to roam, wander, and meander through all the hills and hollers before it gets to where it's going.  Have you ever heard the conversation when people are shelling beans, plucking chickens, or piecing together a quilt?  It's a way of just enjoying each others company.  Trump just sits on the bench, takes out a jack knife, whittles a stick, and chews the fat.  Good to see ya, let's sit a spell.  If you're in a hurry to get to the point then you'll probably miss it.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.5    8 months ago
Trump just sits on the bench, takes out a jack knife, whittles a stick, and chews the fat

.. or sits on a golden toilet at 4am while shitting, jerking off, and tweeting on truth social

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.7  Nerm_L  replied to  devangelical @8.2.6    8 months ago
.. or sits on a golden toilet at 4am while shitting, jerking off, and tweeting on truth social

Wouldn't know.  Don't hang out in gay bars.  I have heard they're a little different.  Thanks for the insight from the other side of the aisle.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.8  devangelical  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.7    8 months ago

I don't drink or participate in xtian nationalist full contact sports.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.9  Nerm_L  replied to  devangelical @8.2.8    8 months ago
I don't drink or participate in xtian nationalist full contact sports.

Well, duh.  Top notch on the women's swim team?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.9    8 months ago

didn't qualify. rudder created too much water resistance and the thumper gals kept climbing the mast.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.15  Nerm_L  replied to  devangelical @8.2.10    8 months ago
didn't qualify. rudder created too much water resistance and the thumper gals kept climbing the mast.

That's quite a tail.  Has someone been screwing the pooch again?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.5    8 months ago
Do you understand that Trump's style is very much like country conversation on the porch?  Trump wasn't talking at you, like most politicians, Trump was talking to you.  And the talk has to roam, wander, and meander through all the hills and hollers before it gets to where it's going.  Have you ever heard the conversation when people are shelling beans, plucking chickens, or piecing together a quilt?  It's a way of just enjoying each others company.  Trump just sits on the bench, takes out a jack knife, whittles a stick, and chews the fat.  Good to see ya, let's sit a spell.  If you're in a hurry to get to the point then you'll probably miss it.

Yes, I do get that sense.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.18  devangelical  replied to  Nerm_L @8.2.15    8 months ago
That's quite a tail.  Has someone been screwing the pooch again?

several, and although the thought of barking did cross my mind a few times, I never asked them to ...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8.2.19  Nerm_L  replied to  devangelical @8.2.18    8 months ago
several, and although the thought of barking did cross my mind a few times, I never asked them to ...

Sounds like an occupational hazard.   Leave them squirrels alone, man.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
9  Hallux    8 months ago

I understand the Big Shill promised to fix all the stuff God ignored on Day 1. Hopes and Prayers ... what a combo!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Breaking:

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PHOENIX — Arizona won't be able to block those who sign up to vote using a federal registration form from casting a ballot in the presidential race, at least not now.

In a brief order Thursday, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a plea by Republican legislative leaders to delay a ruling by a trial judge that barring enforcement of such a ban.

In the same order, the three-judge panel also said those using that federal form still can cast their ballots by mail.

What the judges decided, however, is that anyone who tries to register to vote using a state form is required at the same time to provide documented proof of citizenship. More to the point, if they do not, the application must now be rejected.

That overturns what had been occurring.

Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer said the practice until now has been that registration requests using the state form that did not also have proof of citizenship automatically were put into the "federal only'' category, as if the applicants had submitted a federal form.

Richer said he and the other 14 county recorders will stop doing that.

But Richer noted none of this disturbs the ability of those who use the federal form in the first place to be able to cast a ballot in the presidential race.

House Speaker Ben Toma acknowledged the limited nature of the victory.
"But it's still a win,'' he told Capitol Media Services.

Decision by 9th Court Provides Clarity About Citizenship and Voter Registration in Arizona (kawc.org)


So if you want to cheat use the federal voting form.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Later, when I return, I will attend to a very big story which the media cannot ignore.

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Hallux
Professor Principal
11.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    8 months ago

Oh dear, is Kimberly's head to be offed?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @11.1    8 months ago

biden weaponized the secret service too ...

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @11.1.1    8 months ago

That was tit-4-tat, Trump had weaponized the Post Office during his term.

 
 
 
The Chad
Freshman Participates
12  The Chad    8 months ago

As an Independent voter there really are no good options in 2024. What has become ever so obvious despite the insanity of the social movements in the Democrat party is that they are largely driven by Defense contractors and weapons manufactures. I never thought I'd see the day republicans would purge the warmongers out of their party and Democrats would embrace these stains on human nature.

2024 is Nationalism vs Global Neoconism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1  JohnRussell  replied to  The Chad @12    8 months ago
I never thought I'd see the day republicans would purge the warmongers out of their party

I never thought I'd see the day republicans would purge the warmongers decency out of their party

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
12.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1    8 months ago

Both Democrats and Republicans are all politicians- there is no decency to purge to begin with.

Either they are corrupt before entering politics; and get corrupted while in office. 

Those that fight to stay pure don't last long in the Establishment parties.

Only partisans can't see that.

Doesn't change what he said being true. Democrats and Republicans have swapped positions. Democrats are pro war and the military industrial complex; and Republicans have turn isolationist not wanting to get involved in other countries' garbage.

 
 
 
George
Senior Expert
12.1.2  George  replied to  Ronin2 @12.1.1    8 months ago
there is no decency to purge to begin with.

They can purge them from Congress, like the republicans did to Santos, Of course the democrats are still embracing their foreign agent Menedez because a dem vote is more important than showing actual integrity.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
13  JBB    8 months ago

Trump convention speech was an utter dud...

 
 

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