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A great deal for Vladimir Putin

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  4 months ago  •  204 comments

A great deal for Vladimir Putin
Jake Sullivan calls the intricate diplomacy surrounding the release “vintage Joe Biden.” Adds, choking up, “today was a very good day.”

Yesterday, as 9/11 terrorist were getting plea deals, there was another of those controversial exchanges that encourage more hostage taking. Russia was more than willing to exchange 16 prisoners, including Paul Whelan, a U.S. Marine held since 2018, and several pro-democracy activists to get back eight prisoners which included a convicted assassin and several spies. 

The prisoners Russia held would have rotted in jail if Putin didn't get back his assassin and a handful of spies. The exchange took place for only one reason: Putin got a great deal. Aside from getting back a few convicted hackers and several Russian spies, Putin got back a key figure in his vital security force:  Vadim Krasikov, who is an assassin and part of the vital group which protects Putin. Krasikov was convicted by a German court for the 2019 killing of Zelimkhan “Tornike” Khangoshvili in broad daylight in a Berlin park. He was sentenced to life in a German prison. Seven countries were involved in the deal.

What did the US get?

Biden got to use the return of what were clearly hostages in the never-ending campaign against Trump. It evoked memories of when Barack Obama was widely criticized for giving up five high-value Taliban prisoners for deserter Bowe Bergdahl and for negotiating with terrorists for his release. One would have thought that Kamala Harris would have been credit for it as well, but Jake Sullivan (maybe unintentionally) said: “If you had not have Joe Biden sitting in the oval office, I don’t think this would’ve happened.”

To add insult to injury, Joe Biden was later asked about former President Donald Trump’s comments that he could have secured the American prisoners’ release without giving up anything, Biden replied, “Then why didn’t he do it when he was president?” and then walked away, seemingly unaware that two of the three Americans released were arrested during his term in office, not Trump’s.

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A smug Dana Bash (CNN) called it a “mic drop moment” without clarifying the facts or the timeline of the arrests, which demonstrates how dishonorable the American media has become.



In other news:

The New York Times is now saying that Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, was killed by a bomb that operatives had planted months earlier. If true, it illustrates the effectiveness of Mossad and their cooperation with anti-regime groups in Iran.

The United States recognized Venezuela’s opposition presidential candidate, Edmundo González, as the winner of the country's disputed election.

The Senate rejected a bill that would have restored tax breaks for businesses and expanded the child tax credit.

In the 12 days since Kamala Harris has become the presumptive nominee, she has yet to hold a press conference.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Good morning


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Home again, but at a high cost.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

gee, I wonder what putin would give us for trump after he's imprisoned? every negative or racist utterance by trump is another nail in his political coffin and sign of his growing desperation. desperation so thick that the structure supporting it is in danger of collapse.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 months ago

I'm sure Putin is very content with Joe Biden.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    4 months ago

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Ronin2
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1.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 months ago

You think Putin gives a shit about Trump?

When it comes to racist comments and being divisive look to your own damn party first.

As for desperation which party tried to keep Trump off of state ballots? Which party is using lawfare to try and imprison Trump? Which party is trying to sentence Trump with a state using a federal law to stretch misdemeanor book keeping violations (whose statute of limitations ran out out long ago) into a felony? Show us all anywhere in the Constitution that allows states to prosecute federal law?

Leftist are drowning in desperation. Trying to federalize election laws; putting term limits/packing the Supreme Court; and granting amnesty to the millions of illegal immigrants the Biden administration has let in will be at the top of their agenda. "Americans last" is their only motto.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.3    4 months ago
You think Putin gives a shit about Trump?

Nope.  Trump is simply a tool to Putin, to be used when it is convenient and to be kept ready for the tool's next use.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    4 months ago

It's funny how some think, actually believe, trump gives a shit about anyone but trump

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    4 months ago

It's funny how some think, actually believe, trump gives a shit about anyone but trump

Apparently he gives a little shit about Ivanka, at least he has said that he likes her boobs.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.6    4 months ago

of course, he paid for them...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.3    4 months ago
Which party is using lawfare to try and imprison Trump?

Neither....It was a jury of his peers, evenly picked by both prosecution and defense. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.7    4 months ago

Did he pay for all her alterations?

lol

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.3    4 months ago
You think Putin gives a shit about Trump?

Trump literally praised Putin for making the deal...

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago
but at a high cost.

What was the cost of Sandra Loli and Mikael Gidada in 2020? 200+ Houthi militants?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2    4 months ago

Bad deals are bad deals. It doesn't matter who makes them.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.2    4 months ago

... not to mention trump reconstituting the taliban leadership and giving away afghanistan with a hostage trade.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    4 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    4 months ago

But that doesn't help Biden.

It would be like me saying that it was only 2 years ago that Sunny Hostin questioned Nikki Haley's racial identity, calling her a chameleon and accusing her of not "leaning" into her Indian heritage.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Hallux @1.2.3    4 months ago

When you are compelled to attack Joe Biden and Kamala Harris no matter what you may end up standing on a two legged stool. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.6  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    4 months ago

Remind us all again which administration botch the Afghanistan withdrawal and allowed them to retake all of Afghanistan?

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.7  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.5    4 months ago

The WSJ appears to be happy ... will not be overly surprised to see them back Harris.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.8  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.5    4 months ago

The left needs to get off their own two legged stools first.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2.7    4 months ago
will not be overly surprised to see them back Harris.

But Jake Tapper said nobody, but Biden could have done it.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.10  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.9    4 months ago

Yippie for Tapper but he can be an arse.

The release was as far as I can tell a coordinated effort by hundreds of folks from dozens of countries with Biden (and it appears Harris also) channeling diplomatic efforts to arrive at last night's outcome. Note that 'Brandon' had the grace to climb into the plane and thank those still aboard who had helped bring the hostages home. Your bundle of mememe, and you know this, would have claimed all credit for himself

Hey, I'm sorry your choices have had a Fortnight Horribilis but not only are the Gods crazy, they love them some judicious poetry.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.11  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.6    4 months ago

which administration botch the Afghanistan withdrawal and allowed them to retake all of Afghanistan?

ezpz ... trump. who leads afghanistan now? who let them out of prison?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.12  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.8    4 months ago
two legged stool

... uh, ... who do you think harris is running against?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.13  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.5    4 months ago

That comment is just dripping with hypocrisy

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.13    4 months ago

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.12    4 months ago

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devangelical
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1.2.16  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.4    4 months ago
it was only 2 years ago

got anything from the 2024 campaign?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2.16    4 months ago
got anything from the 2024 campaign?

I only wish Harris did.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.2.12    4 months ago

a 2 legged puddle of drool

 
 
 
CB
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1.3  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

No "buts." 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.1  Sparty On  replied to  CB @1.3    4 months ago

If it’s and buts, were candy and nuts, we’d have a happy NTers …..

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.1    4 months ago
we’d have a happy NTers …..

Some on the left, both on NT and in the real world are only happy when they are miserable and have something to whine about.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.3.2    4 months ago
only happy when they are miserable and have something to whine about.

projection...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @1.3.3    4 months ago

Nope.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

Home again, but at a high cost.

But...........JD Vance said that it was because of trump that they were released... So.......which is it Vic? Better get to those right wing sites so you can get the talking points straight. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Kamala Harris finally goes off script:

"This is just an extraordinary testament to the importance of having a president who understands the power of diplomacy and understands the strength that rests in understanding the significance of diplomacy."

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Right Down the Center
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2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 months ago

Not bad but she is going to have to work to beat her passage of time word salad.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Why do conservatives hate Joe Biden's America ?

If it were still Donald Trump's America they would love it.  But Joe Biden's America they hate.  If Harris gets in they will double hate it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 months ago
Why do conservatives hate Joe Biden's America ?

Joe Biden is only the proxy.

The left's America is one of open borders, deficit spending, inflation, a fantasy energy policy and the politization & weaponization of government.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 months ago

I was going to say "why do conservatives hate America?"  but I decided to be non-confrontational. I may not make that mistake again. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    4 months ago

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Igknorantzruls
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3.1.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    4 months ago

it seems to be by far, the majority, and led to that conclusion via media and pundits that lead them astray, as apparently not too many, are able to think on their own, and why their left behind as they are not allowed to pier at what they have been told to shield themselves from, and with an activist court having delayed what would have shed light, the conservative majority will now choose to allow the truth to be shed no light. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.3    4 months ago

I don't understand.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.5    4 months ago

In the final months of 2024, he switched gears to save his election.

It won't work.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    4 months ago

It takes wit and intelligence...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    4 months ago
t won't work.

It was the most obvious ploy ever. Everyone with half a brain understood this would happen. Biden would take enough steps to show improvement leading up the election ) . Suckers would fall for it (or at least pretend to) and after the election the new controls would be taken off.

I can't believe anyone actually fell for it. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    4 months ago
In the final months of 2024, he switched gears to save his election.

He had to, Trump blocked any laws that would help fix the issue.  If the House did its job, he wouldn't have had to.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 months ago
Why do conservatives hate Joe Biden's America ?

So we are supposed to love inflation; high gas prices; open borders with millions of illegal streaming in; the two tier justice system; the weaponization of the FBI/CIA/DOJ/IRS against Democrat political opponents; Democrats trying to federalize all elections; and pack/change the Supreme Court?

If it were still Donald Trump's America they would love it.  But Joe Biden's America they hate.  If Harris gets in they will double hate it. 

Leftists would be screaming for Trump's impeachment if he were in charge and doing the same damn things. Just flip the last 5 items so Democrats come out on the short end of the stick. 

There is no compromising with leftists any more. They need to be removed from power or they will turn this country into a more woke, militarily weaker, dysfunctional version of China.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 months ago

This is what I mean by blind partisanship.   Unlike strategic partisanship in which one generally votes D or R because they prioritize party platform over other factors, blind partisanship condemns anything and anyone from the other party and praises anything from their party.

For some, if Trump were a D (and he could easily have run as a D), they would be condemning him left and right and be up in arms at the judicial system and cooperative judges delaying his trials so that the electorate is denied the legal truth.

For blind R partisans, nothing Harris does will ever be good.   Her faults will be exaggerated to the absurd.   Her qualifications will be ignored.   Meanwhile, Trump —the worst major party nominee in my lifetime (and likely in our history)— is defended at every turn and his many negatives and wrongdoings are ignored.

When I speak of partisanship I am referring to blind partisanship.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3.3    4 months ago

all of my friends that assumed I was a trump supporter are very unhappy with me because of my recent statements to vote a straight democratic ticket as a protest against the maga scum that fucked up my republican party. I've actually converted a few that have turned against trump. sometimes it's pretty hard to keep a straight face...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.2  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @3.3.1    4 months ago

Yeah I get that.   Frankly I do not know how one even starts trying to convert someone who still is supporting Trump.   After all, what must this guy do before people recognize that he is entirely unfit for the office?  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.2    4 months ago
Frankly I do not know how one even starts trying to convert someone who still is supporting Trump.

Generally speaking anyone that was supporting Joes mental capacity to be president for 4 more years should not be the ones trying to convince anyone Trump is unfit.  There might be a credibility issue there.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.4  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.3    4 months ago

First of all, you are yet again misrepresenting my position.   I have stated for years now that Biden is too old to be PotUS.   I disagreed with him running in 2020 because the presidency needs a younger individual (45-65) give or take due to the nature of the job.   I have criticized the Ds this election year for not urging Biden to yield the race to someone younger.  

Biden is too old, Trump, in contrast, is both too old AND entirely unfit to be PotUS.

In a choice of an elderly PotUS past his time vs. an irresponsible scoundrel, traitor, etc. like Trump the choice should be obvious.   Trump should never be given the power of the presidency.

From your comments, if forced to choose between an old Biden and Trump for PotUS, you would choose Trump.  

You have no ground on which to question my or anyone else's credibility.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.4    4 months ago

(their) Groundhog Day

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Right Down the Center
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3.3.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.4    4 months ago
First of all, you are yet again misrepresenting my position.    

Once again you are misrepresenting my comment.  I specifically said in general

From your comments, if forced to choose between an old Biden and Trump for PotUS, you would choose Trump.  

Once again you are attempting to tell someone what they would do.  

You have no ground on which to question my or anyone else's credibility.

Of course I do

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.7  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.6    4 months ago
I specifically said in general

You think that bullshit ploy is going to convince anyone that you were not directing that comment at me?    

Once again you are attempting to tell someone what they would do.  

No, I was clearly stating what you would do based on your comments.   If you were forced to choose between Biden or Trump, you would choose Trump.   Go ahead, prove me wrong.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.3.8  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.3    4 months ago

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devangelical
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3.3.9  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.2    4 months ago
Frankly I do not know how one even starts trying to convert someone who still is supporting Trump

they have to first consider you "one of them". I was a corporate bully in my last salaried job. only my 2 closest friends know that I'm a left leaning independent. I was brought up to know the difference between right and wrong and could never align myself with such unamerican and unpatriotic ignorance exhibited by maga trash.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.7    4 months ago
You think that bullshit ploy is going to convince anyone that you were not directing that comment at me?    

 You think I care?  Everyone can make up their own mind if it was directed at you.  It was not   

 If you were forced to choose between Biden or Trump, you would choose Trump.

Correct.  You are trying to tell someone what they would do

  Go ahead, prove me wrong.

Asking someone to prove something that is impossible to prove is pretty weak.  Not to mention I have no need or desire to prove anything.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.11  CB  replied to  TᵢG @3.3    4 months ago

Additional to the Harris remarks you shared above should she win the presidency in November she can already count on Trumpists (GOP) if they control either branch of congress to obstruct her fiercely— and I am not referring to the cause being she is a democrat. Let's remember 2009:

TIME just published  “The Party of No,”  an article adapted from my new book,  The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era . It reveals some of my reporting on the Republican plot to obstruct President Obama before he even took office, including secret meetings led by House  GOP whip Eric Cantor (in December 2008) and Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (in early January 2009) in which they laid out their daring (though cynical and political) no-honeymoon strategy of all-out resistance to a popular President-elect during an economic emergency. “If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it."
 
 
 
CB
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3.3.12  CB  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.2    4 months ago

I mean Donald is so stupidly divisive that he is deliberately trying to 'split' Kamala Harris, a multi-racial/ethnic woman, politically in half!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.13  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.10    4 months ago

Of course you refuse to answer the question.   That was entirely predictable.

We all have read your comments.   I doubt anyone on this site would believe that you would select Biden if forced to choose between Biden and Trump.

If forced between Biden and Trump, you would obviously choose Trump.

You have no basis on which to question my credibility.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.3.14  Igknorantzruls  replied to  CB @3.3.11    4 months ago
“If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it."

Even if it was originally their idea, if Obama was for it, they dropped their support for an idea they came up with. A pretty telling explanation of what is wrong with this nation.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.13    4 months ago
Of course you refuse to answer the question.   That was entirely predictable.

Once again you accuse someone they did not answer your question.  You asked "You think that bullshit ploy is going to convince anyone that you were not directing that comment at me?" My response included  "It was not".  Hard to believe that is confusing

We all have read your comments.   I doubt anyone on this site would believe that you would select Biden if forced to choose between Biden and Trump.

Maybe, maybe not.  Again, what people on this site believe I would or would not do doesn't mean anything to me.   Is it important to you?   Just the question of  "If I was forced" is ridiculous.

If forced between Biden and Trump, you would obviously choose Trump.

Tripling down on telling me what I would do.  Again, just the question of  "If I was forced" is ridiculous.

Your comment history defies your pointless denials.

If you say so.

You have no basis on which to question my credibility.

The comment was not about you so I obviously did not question your credibility, not about this in particular case.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.16  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.15    4 months ago

If forced between Biden and Trump, you would obviously choose Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.16    4 months ago

It seems you are not actually reading or understanding my comments.  My wife of almost 40 years does not claim to know me as well as you seem to think  you do.  It is actually pretty amusing.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.18  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.17    4 months ago

Basic logic.  

Do you actually think you are fooling anyone on this site into thinking that if forced between Biden and Trump that you would choose Biden?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.18    4 months ago
Basic logic.

If you say so

Do you actually think you are fooling anyone on this site into thinking that if forced between Biden and Trump that you would choose Biden?

Do you actually think I care if people believe a comment I never made about a ridiculous, hypothetical  scenario being forced to choose between an asshole and a guy that is not even running?

Do you think people can't see the flailing?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.20  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.19    4 months ago
Do you think people can't see the flailing?

I am positive they can see your flailing.

If forced between Biden and Trump, you would obviously choose Trump given your history of comments.  

I have no problem answering the question, if forced between Biden and Trump I would choose Biden.  You refuse to answer and just keep on dodging as if you are fooling anyone.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.3.21  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.20    4 months ago

Republicans For Harris is growing exponentially...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.22  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @3.3.21    4 months ago

Good!    It is encouraging to see vestigial remains of the former GOP acting against the cult that has infected and consumed the GOP.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.23  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.20    4 months ago

Funny how you have never actually asked a question.  It seems all you keep doing is making the same statement again and again.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.24  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.23    4 months ago

If forced between Biden and Trump, you would obviously choose Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.25  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.24    4 months ago

Yes, that is the statement. Still not a question but thanks for your opinion. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.26  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.25    4 months ago

If forced between Biden or Trump, which would you choose?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.27  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.26    4 months ago
If forced between Biden or Trump, which would you choose?

Interesting that it took 2 hours and a half dozen statements to get to the question.  Of course I am sure most can see why.

So I can choose one of two paths here.  I can:

Continue down the path of a ridiculous, hypothetical  scenario being forced to choose between an asshole and a guy that is not even running.  Of course to continue down the ridiculous road I would have to know how I was being forced.  If someone were holding my kids and told me I had better pick Biden (or Trump) or my family would suffer I would gladly choose if whomever they want.

Or I could state:

Some questions are not worth answering, some discussions are not worth continuing.

Actually I will choose the second one even though you will interpret that as you usually do.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.28  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.27    4 months ago

Same dodge.   As always.

It does not matter, it is obvious that if forced to choose Biden or Trump, you would choose Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.29  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.28    4 months ago

As predicted, just like always.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
3.3.30  Gazoo  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.15    4 months ago

I obviously did not question your credibility”

It’s 100% ok to question others credibility. Based on comments i’d say a little over half the members here have zero credibility.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.3.31  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.3    4 months ago
Trump is unfit. 

He cannot own a gun or even go to Canada. Yea, he is unfit. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.3.32  MrFrost  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.14    4 months ago
they dropped their support for an idea they came up with.

Exactly, Mitch McConnell was one that voted against several of his own bills when he found out that Obama supported it. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.33  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gazoo @3.3.30    4 months ago
Based on comments i’d say a little over half the members here have zero credibility.

At least

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.34  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @3.3.31    4 months ago
He cannot own a gun or even go to Canada. Yea, he is unfit. 

He doesn't need a gun, he has secret service, if they do their job.  If he wins I guess Canada politicians will have to come here.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.3.35  Sparty On  replied to  MrFrost @3.3.31    4 months ago

Misdefelonies don’t count.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.3.36  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.34    4 months ago
He doesn't need a gun, he has secret service, if they do their job.

Gun ownership in America is as American as baseball and apple pie. But not for trump. He's a felon, deal with it. Hell, he can't even vote. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.37  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @3.3.36    4 months ago

Lol. I will try my best to deal with it. S/

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.3.38  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.16    4 months ago

Why do you keep repeating things he has already said he doesn’t have to answer? [deleted] [] Also, for clarification, forcing someone to vote for someone only happens in the leftist world.

For up to date proof, go back and review US history the last few weeks.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.3.39  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.3.38    4 months ago
forcing someone to vote for someone only happens in the leftist world.

TiG is not "forcing someone to vote for someone", he is asking a simple question. For some reason, many around here have a problem with this type of question. If anyone wishes to spout off their opinion, go ahead, but on a forum like this, there will be other people that will wish to know why one defends a candidate or various positions, and why they attack another candidate for their various positions. I find it ridiculous how so many here, after reading so many of their comments, stating they won't be voting for Trump. It is just crazy to watch people bend over backwards while doing a triple Lindy off the 80' platform to defend and rationalize any and everything Trump, and then say they are both bad candidates, so I'll not be voting for either. 

It just doesn't jive. And I really would like to know how and why people , first, defend the POS, and second, why they continue to defend the POS after each and every day another reason to NEVER vote for this POS rears its ugly head. ( Today, it appears Trump possibly accepted $10,000,000.00 from the dick tater of Egypt, during his 2016 campaign and ole Lower the William Barr shut down the investigation) If Trump gets reelected, we all will suffer, so some of US really would like to understand WHY this clown deserves people diving upside down in contortionist positions, to defend him.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.3.40  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.39    4 months ago

Nobody said Tig is forcing someone to vote for [ someone deleted ]

[ ] But for your clarification so you can get straight on what he did say...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
3.3.41  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.3.40    4 months ago
Tig is forcing someone to

answer a question...?   Just curious why the right has such diffiCULTY in not joining, 

in, and answering simple questions ?  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.42  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @3.3.38    4 months ago

[deleted][]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.43  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.39    4 months ago

[deleted][]

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
3.3.44  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.43    4 months ago

i got it at Rants R  US

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.3.45  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.44    4 months ago

I would be looking at getting my money back. It was useless.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.3.46  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.41    4 months ago

Because it is not the right that is forcing the electorate to vote for a particular person.

Like I stated above……for your answer as to who IS forcing their electorate to vote for a particular person, look no further than the last several weeks known as the democrat shit show.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.3.47  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.3.45    4 months ago

well then i'll yield to your expertise on uselessness, but don't worry about refunds, Cause I ain't giving them a dime back, thanx 4 ure concern though.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
3.3.48  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.3.46    4 months ago
who IS forcing their electorate to vote for a particular person, look no further than the last several weeks known as the democrat shit show.

bugsy, Gumby could be on the Democratic ticket for president, and he would mold around and get support and  my vote  B 4 Trump and the spineless GOP, as they attempt to sweep , and have to date, swept , more away of this country than can be believed, as by overlooking Trumps attempted steal of our elections, they have proven, at least to me and in my opine, they are traitors to this country, who put their POS Party above opur damn Country. Hell, Pokey, Mr. BiiiiLLLLLLLLL, N E BODY but that LYING MUTHA FCKR Trump

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.49  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.3.46    4 months ago
Because it is not the right that is forcing the electorate to vote for a particular person.

Explain exactly how anyone is forced to vote for a particular person.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.50  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.14    4 months ago

Check out Key & Peele's sketch 'Obama and the republicans', so spot on.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.51  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.49    4 months ago

Then why keep pushing the question of who people would vote for if the were forced to choose between an asshole and someone that is not running?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.52  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.51    4 months ago

I asked you who you would choose if forced to pick Trump or Kamala for PotUS.   You ran from the question with a series of deflections.  Now you want to reopen this?

You will not answer.   Expected since you will never admit that you would obviously choose Trump based on your comment history.

So what value is it to bring this question front and center?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.53  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.52    4 months ago
I asked you who you would choose if forced to pick Trump or Kamala for PotUS.

You do realize the posts don't disappear don't you?  No less than 5 posts above said Trump and Biden.   Interesting deflection attempt to not answer the question I posed. If someone believes people can not be forced to vote for anyone why keep asking who people would vote for if the were forced to choose between an asshole and someone that is not running?

You will never admit that you would obviously choose Trump based on your comment history.

Why keep asking a question if you insist you already know the answer?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.54  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.53    4 months ago

And you continue to deflect.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.3.55  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.54    4 months ago
And you continue to deflect.

It is obviously not me doing all the deflecting here

You do realize the posts don't disappear don't you?  No less than 5 posts above said Trump and Biden.   Interesting deflection attempt to not answer the question I posed. If someone believes people can not be forced to vote for anyone why keep asking who people would vote for if the were forced to choose between an asshole and someone that is not running?  Why keep asking a question if you insist you already know the answer?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.3.56  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.49    4 months ago
Explain exactly how anyone is forced to vote for a particular person.

how many votes did HARRIS receive in the 2024 Democratic primaries?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.57  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.3.56    4 months ago

Whining about the lack of s second D primary takes you nowhere.   Get over it.

Since you will not vote for the D nominee why do you care?    

The electorate has a choice between Harris and Trump.   That is the big choice this election year.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.3.58  Trout Giggles  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.14    4 months ago

How petty. That's no way to run a railroad

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.3.59  Trout Giggles  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.3.39    4 months ago
it appears Trump possibly accepted $10,000,000.00 from the dick tater of Egypt, during his 2016 campaign and ole Lower the William Barr shut down the investigation) I

I saw that yesterday on Fire TV News! Someone should seed that

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 months ago

Black and a woman!  Ya!  What a combo that they already despise

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.4.1  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.4    4 months ago

No one cares that she is black and a woman. 
Getting her current job BECAUSE she is black and a woman is the concern.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.4.2  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.4.1    4 months ago

What qualifications does Harris have to be VP other than her gender and skin color?

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.4.3  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.2    4 months ago

She may have experience in other parts of the government, but when Biden specifically states he is looking into picking a black (is she really?) woman and the short list consisted of 4 black women…..she was picked because of her race and gender. No other reason.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.4  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.4.3    4 months ago
She may have experience in other parts of the government, but ...

Don't just bullshit, answer the question:

What qualifications does Harris have to be VP other than her gender and skin color?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.5  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.2    4 months ago

See - 'black (is she really)?

jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.4.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.2    4 months ago
What qualifications does Harris have to be VP other than her gender and skin color?

Ask Joe, he is the one that chose her.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.7  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.4.6    4 months ago

This time the question was not even asked of you but you intercede with … of course … deflection.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.4.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.7    4 months ago
but you intercede

That is usually how public forums work

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.9  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.4.8    4 months ago

And you cherrypicked too to change the meaning of my post.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.4.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.9    4 months ago

Except that I quoted your full statement.  The deflections have reached a new level of absurdity.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.11  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.4.10    4 months ago

Why pen such an obvious lie?

This is what I wrote:

TiG@3.4.7  ☞ This time the question was not even asked of you but you intercede with … of course … deflection.

You cherry-picked to post only the red part.

What does such dishonesty accomplish for you?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.4.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.11    4 months ago

I was looking at your other comment.

This make you feel better?

TiG @3.4.7   ☞ This time the question was not even asked of you  but you intercede  with … of course … deflection.

That is usually how public forums work. There is no deflection.  Biden would know.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.4.13  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.4    4 months ago
What qualifications does Harris have to be VP other than her gender and skin color?

Why ask me? That was up to Joe.

I told you what his priorities were for a VP.

Hope that helps.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.4.14  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.4.5    4 months ago
See - 'black (is she really)?

She was Indian American when she won in the Senate, so is she really black now?    or just leftist pandering.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.15  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.4.13    4 months ago

Deflection.

Your comments claim Harris’ only qualifications for VP were her gender and skin color.   That is clear bigotry.   

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.4.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.15    4 months ago

That might be what you read

It isn't what he said.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
3.4.17  Thomas  replied to  bugsy @3.4.3    4 months ago
No other reason

How do you think they arrived at the short list?  What qualifications did one need to make the short list? Black and a woman? Did a computer pick them randomly from a list of all black women in the US? How then did they winnow the selections down? I mean, there are quite a few black women in the US over the age of 35. Oh, shit there is a qualifier that you did not even mention. So your logic: Kamala Harris only got picked because she was a women and black, is false. Period.

But by all means, keep up with the denigration. I love the way it plays on the voters. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.18  CB  replied to  Thomas @3.4.17    4 months ago

What Trumpists won't discuss is what "qualifications" they use to vet Donald for his 'position.' That is,  the 'perfect' candidate for them is one who: lies, cheats, is vindictive, thief-ish, unjust retributive, uncompassionate, and lest we forget: Angry. We can know this to be true because. . . the Trumpists have nominated him three times to head the (GOP) party ticket!

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
3.4.19  Thomas  replied to  CB @3.4.18    4 months ago

The qualification for them is "Because it's Donald" 

Just keep repeating it.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.4.20  bugsy  replied to  Thomas @3.4.17    4 months ago

When someone says they are considering a black woman, and the four people On the short list are black women, then that is very obvious that are the two MAIN things he is looking for.

hope that helps.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.21  CB  replied to  bugsy @3.4.20    4 months ago

When 'someone' (Donald) heads a presidential administration that hires 'toughs' and confrontational types who 'hit back hard' it may indicate a level of unprofessionalism and a lack of experts sufficient for the jobs they are given to serve.  Collectively, 'you' can't hire 'toughs' and "confrontational types' and properly label the process: "merit-based."

But, that won't stop Donald's exploitation of Project 2025 next year should he become a repeat president. 

I am pretty sure that helps!

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
3.4.22  Thomas  replied to  bugsy @3.4.20    4 months ago
When someone says they are considering a black woman, and the four people On the short list are black women, then that is very obvious that are the two MAIN things he is looking for.

Does it? Why does the presence of two things negate the presence of others?

Did you even read my comment? Did you understand my comment?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.4.23  bugsy  replied to  CB @3.4.21    4 months ago

I would rather the tough type in administration to be able to go against, diplomatically, a rough and tough world leader or country dictator. 
in other words, the exact opposite of the pussies we see populating leftist administrations. 
BTW.   “Donald” has never endorsed Project 2025 so that argument was a failure before it hit the internet.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.4.24  bugsy  replied to  Thomas @3.4.22    4 months ago

Yes…..and i read and understood your comment, hence my response.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.25  CB  replied to  bugsy @3.4.23    4 months ago
“Donald” has never endorsed Project 2025 so that argument was a failure before it hit the internet.

Donald has approved the work of the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 ( Mandate for Leadership). "You," the collective, can peek this out:


Apr 24, 2022

Donald Trump Delivers Keynote Speech in Florida 4/21/22 Transcript

Donald Trump: ( 46:24 )


Because our country is going to hell. The critical job of institutions, such as Heritage to lay the groundwork .

And Heritage does such an incredible job at that. And I’m telling you, with Kevin and the staff, and I met so many of them now, I took pictures with among the most handsome, beautiful people I’ve ever seen. I didn’t like that picture. If you could lose that picture, please would you Kevin? But this is a great… No, he says I won’t do that. But this is a great group.

And they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America and that’s coming .

That’s coming. Because nobody can stand what’s happening right now. Only a fool, only a fool or somebody that hates our country could like what’s happening right now.

Donald Trump: ( 50:18 )


Okay. But then they made me a dictator instead. In other words, I don’t know, which would you rather be, a dumb person or a dictator? I don’t know. Perhaps a dictator would be better. I don’t want to be a dumb person. With the right leadership, we can erase the Biden nightmare. We can rescue the American dream faster than anyone ever thought possible. But we cannot be satisfied merely to turn back the clock to 2020 or 2019 . The potential of our movement and the Republican party itself is so much greater than that.

We need an organization like yours working on the next generation of policies for a post-Biden, post-COVID world.

And if I didn’t have confidence in your new leadership and all of the people that I’ve met and so many that I knew of, but didn’t know, I wouldn’t be here tonight.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.4.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @3.4.25    4 months ago

Oh, nice job, CB!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.4.27  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.4.26    4 months ago

jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Rachel Scott implied that Trump's objection to DAs who vowed to get him, was based on race.

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She seems to have gotten away with that.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 months ago

gosh darn those uppity black women that don't give any due respect to racist white men ... /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @4.1    4 months ago

Ya, we're all racists and you've been allowed to make that claim since you've been here.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    4 months ago

Rachel Scott started the interview with Trump with a very direct question, using Trump's own words as the basis of the question.  Instead of trying to answer the question, he insulted her and changed the subject. 

Those are the facts.  What is your excuse for him?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    4 months ago
using Trump's own words as the basis of the question.

Trump attacked DAs who vowed to "get him." She concluded that so-called question with "how can black people trust you?"

Are you going to stand there and tell us that Trump attacked those DAs because they were black?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    4 months ago
Are you going to stand there and tell us that Trump attacked those DAs because they were black?

Why not?  He attacked Kamala because she "became" black a few years ago.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.4    4 months ago
He attacked Kamala because she "became" black

He is attacking Kamala every day on her policies. The same policies that she is now running away from.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    4 months ago

she said trump had questioned obamas birthplace  -  straight up racism.

Trump called black prosecutors "animals" .  Not quite as obvious as the birtherism , but still a totally uncalled for racial tone. 

He told four female persons of color , who were American citizens and in most cases born here,  that they should go back where they came from. 

-

Nonetheless Trump had the opportunity to argue that those acts and comments of his were not racist, but instead he attacked the black reporter. 

Face it, your candidate is cracking up under the pressure. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.7  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    4 months ago
Face it, your candidate is cracking up under the pressure. 

losing campaign momentum, losing the media spotlight, losing in the polls, losing in the cash haul....

he's a total loser, and I hope the convicted felon gets remanded directly into custody at his sentencing...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    4 months ago
she said trump had questioned obamas birthplace  -  straight up racism.

Trump called black prosecutors "animals" .  Not quite as obvious as the birtherism , but still a totally uncalled for racial tone. 

He told four female persons of color , who were American citizens and in most cases born here,  that they should go back where they came from. 

Very weak sauce.

1) Obama was not the only person to have his birthplace questioned. The others were all white. That disposes of the idea it was racist to question it.

2) Trump called all the prosecutors who were waging lawfare against him "animals" and other things. It was clearly based on prosecutorial malpractice.

3) The 4 "women of color" were Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.). In other words, the radical squad and they are not all women of fucking color. Trump didn't tell them to go to another country. Trump told them: “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”
Trump tells Dem congresswomen: Go back where you came from - POLITICO


Face it

Face it: Scott is a white hating race baiter.

I blame white progressives suffering from white guilt for this kind of hate.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.4    4 months ago

Ya!  Someone needs to look into that jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @4.1    4 months ago

Yeah and nasty is code for uppity black women who dare to use the racist scum's words against him.

I love how she started the Q&A that, 'no one wants you here'

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @4.1.7    4 months ago

Lifelong total loser!  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    4 months ago

It must be fun living in alternate reality. 

Birtherism lasted well into Obamas presidency.  We are talking about years .  At one point 2/3 of republicans believed Obama was born in Africa.  EVEN THOUGH the state of Hawaii had specifically said TWICE that Obamas birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii was on file in the state archives. After Trump came out as a birther , TWO YEARS after Obama became president , the state of Hawaii made an  official statement for the 3rd time that Obama's birth certificate was on file with the state and he was born in Hawaii. 

Only a fool thinks birtherism was not racist, and Trump was up to his ears in it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    4 months ago

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    4 months ago
you've been allowed to make that claim

gee, what revealing comment...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @4.1.14    4 months ago

Is that a Freudian slip?

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.16  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    4 months ago
I blame white progressives suffering from white guilt for this kind of hate.

= all white people should stick together.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @4.1.16    4 months ago
= all white people should stick together.

Sort of like if a black person does not vote Dem it is because they are an Uncle Tom.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1.18  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    4 months ago
1) Obama was not the only person to have his birthplace questioned.

He WAS the only one questioned because of his name and his skin color.

2) Trump called all the prosecutors who were waging lawfare against him "animals" and other things.

Despite there being no evidence of "lawfare" being the motive behind the criminal proceedings.

3) The 4 "women of color" were Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.).

So again he made the statement based on their names and skin color.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.19  CB  replied to  devangelical @4.1.16    4 months ago

And, that's tribalism in a general sense.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.1.20  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.4    4 months ago

He is not lying. When she first ran as senator, she ran as an Indian American. When she realized being that would not get her anywhere the votes she and Biden needed to win in 2020, she ran as the first black VP nominee.

Trump is right again.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    4 months ago

You call a black woman a 'white hating race baiter' thanks to white progressives.

WOW

That's quite inflammatory and nucking futs

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 months ago

No one was 'out to get him' - he's racist scum.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 months ago

Trump implied, no he straight up said, that Kamala Harris (seen here as an infant in her Father's arms) is not black or African American...

original

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  JBB @4.3    4 months ago

Less than a year after she turned Black. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 months ago

original

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
4.4.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JBB @4.4    4 months ago

Yep, and I used to be a dumb brunette...

and what an excellent D E I example so ample of Dysfunctional Erection Inhibitors

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    4 months ago

The logic of this article is non existent. 

The far right loves them some right wing Israeli government. 

The Israeli government has, on occasion over the years and recently, made vastly unequal "trades" with people they call terrorists in order to get some captured Israelis back home.  When Netanyahu does it its necessary, when an American president not named Trump does it its horrible.  That is how conservatives hate America . It seems many of them would be happier living in Israel or even Russia. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago
The logic

The logic is undeniable.

Hostage swaps with rogue regimes encourage more hostage taking.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    4 months ago

You are aware that Palestinians for hostages exchanges that took place earlier this year in Israel/Gaza involved very unequal numbers of people with Israel releasing far more Palestinians than hostages they got back ?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    4 months ago

How does that put Biden in a good light?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    4 months ago

Replying on this column every day gets too easy. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    4 months ago

Easy but weak.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    4 months ago

Sounds like I Robot

The logic is undeniable

The logic is undeniable

The logic is undeniable

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    4 months ago

What logic was that by the way?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    4 months ago
Replying on this column every day gets too easy. 

It is much easier to toss bullshit than an actual thoughtful response.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.7    4 months ago

Just telling it like it is brother. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.8    4 months ago

Me too

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.10  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.7    4 months ago
It is much easier to toss bullshit than an actual thoughtful response.

trump's daily mantra...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @5.1.10    4 months ago
trump's daily mantra...

Good example of what I was talking about.  Bullshit without any thought

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    4 months ago
Hostage swaps with rogue regimes encourage more hostage taking

Trump made hostage swaps with Russia, Iran, and even the Taliban in 2019 and 2020. Stop listening to the propaganda that Trump would have done it different or better. He doesn’t just lie a lot - it’s practically every hour, on the hour.

Trump did do a decent job of bringing some people home, but he didn’t bring everybody home and certainly not just by force of will. Just like other presidents, he sometimes gave up prisoners to make the deal, and yes, he did so with “rogue regimes.”

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    4 months ago
involved very unequal numbers of people with Israel releasing far more Palestinians than hostages they got back ?  

Because Palestinians aren’t worth as much? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

DA!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

I'll pitch in for their boat tickets

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
6  evilone    4 months ago

And here I thought right wing Populists liked having American hostages released? Hmmm... this must be one of those many things that are only good when someone with an R after their name does it. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.1  Ozzwald  replied to  evilone @6    4 months ago
And here I thought right wing Populists liked having American hostages released?

Not when it is a democrat involved with arranging the hostage swap.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2  MrFrost  replied to  evilone @6    4 months ago
only good when someone with an R after their name does it. 

Exactly. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

"Whenever I hear that Kamala Harris is leading in the polls, it brings back memories of the ones in 2016 that had Hillary winning by a landslide. Personally, I don’t believe Kamala can win an honest election. Nor do I believe she can hold together a team given her track record."  ... Dr Carol Swain

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devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    4 months ago
Dr Carol Swain

...a trumpster that's been licking republican and thumper asses since 2009.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1    4 months ago

must be some kind of honorary degree - what a stupid ass kisser

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  JohnRussell    4 months ago

This article has been shown to be an epic fail,  otherwise known as every day of the week. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8    4 months ago

Ya!  SSDD

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8    4 months ago

Remember, those two hardest things to say in the English language:

"I'm sorry" and "Trump was right."

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    4 months ago

Not hard to say regarding the latter, just never true.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
8.2.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    4 months ago
I'm sorry" and "Trump was right."

I'm sorry the 'right' has found itself so lost, and Trump was  

right, about him loving those not so educated or informed or easily played, as the excuses for this clown will go down as some of the most exhaustive ever seen construed and distributed while believed and not through with it, as in the BullShit that seems to have not end, as with every Trumpian excuse, it does send US All further away from where we should be today, and in every weigh, brings US further down, all led by one orange clown, who's racism lowers an entire country, yet we see it yet still abound...

Trump enabled a dark side of so many here, to appear, and as it opened the door, it shines the light on so many and much more, that can't seem to see or be made aware of that which they do share, and they've proven far too generous to know or care, almost to the point of debate know longer seems fair

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.2.2    4 months ago
almost to the point of debate know longer seems fair

Conservative arguments in favor of Trump are the verbal equivalent of "bringing a knife to a gun fight". 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
8.2.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.3    4 months ago
"bringing a knife to a gun fight". 

a plastic butter one

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    4 months ago

"I was wrong"

is something never said by the former 'president' convicted felon and rapist nor its' supporters/enablers/cult

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2    4 months ago

[]

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9  Tessylo    4 months ago

Straight up delusional.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10  JBB    4 months ago

My advice for white MAGAs is to definitely keep on defining who is and who is not what race. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
11  Tacos!    4 months ago
To add insult to injury, Joe Biden was later asked about former President Donald Trump’s comments that he could have secured the American prisoners’ release without giving up anything, Biden replied, “Then why didn’t he do it when he was president?” and then walked away, seemingly unaware that two of the three Americans released were arrested during his term in office, not Trump’s.

Pointless, stupid, and dishonest bickering. Just like any president, Trump presided over prisoner exchanges where we gave somebody to get somebody. Sometimes we give a lot to get a little, and sometimes it’s the other way around. I’m so weary of this POS lying about how he would have done this or that amazing thing at no cost. He’s so full of shit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @11    4 months ago
Pointless, stupid, and dishonest bickering.

It was a false statement. There was no fact checking.

Our dishonest media remained silent.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
12  Tacos!    4 months ago
Russia was more than willing to exchange 16 prisoners, including Paul Whelan, a U.S. Marine held since 2018, and several pro-democracy activists to get back eight prisoners … Putin got a great deal.

Did he? Because the simple math of this is we got 16 people and they got 8. That’s 2-for-1 in our favor.

 
 

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