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Biden is wrong: 'Negotiation' won't work with Hamas

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  gregtx  •  3 months ago  •  21 comments

By:   Quin Hillyer

Biden is wrong: 'Negotiation' won't work with Hamas
President Biden is wrong to put even the slighted blame on Israel's Netanyahu for 'negotiation' failures. Don't negotiation with Hamas. Snuff it out.

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President Joe Biden and tens of thousands of protesting Israelis keep insisting that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu do more to secure the release of hostages held by Hamas terrorists. They aren't so clear about what exactly Netanyahu can do.

The Israeli citizens at least can claim emotional stress for their lack of full reason. Biden's backstabbing of Netanyahu, though, is despicable and inexcusable.

Asked if Netanyahu was doing enough to secure the release of some 100 remaining hostages, Biden simply said "no." He also is saying he expects to give both Hamas and Israel, equally, a "take it or leave it" proposal. But how, pray tell, can Israel negotiate with a terrorist network that refuses actually to accept any limits on its own murderousness? How can Netanyahu negotiate with thugs who have rejected every other ceasefire agreement for 11 months? How can anyone negotiate with monsters who don't even care about their own people's lives but whose entire reason for being is to wipe out the Jewish nation by every means foul and fouler?

Every single time a "deal" supposedly is in the offing, Hamas commits another atrocity. In last week's abomination, Hamas butchered six innocent people, three of whom were specifically being discussed for release in the last round of inane "negotiations." What possible concession can Israel make to ward off such pure evil, especially without giving Hamas even more incentive to slaughter other hostages to gain even further concessions?

Seriously, can Biden, in his morally smug cocoon, possibly provide even the barest of sensible answers to any of this?

In a "statement" surely drafted by some White House apparatchik, at least Biden finally, after 11 months, talked somewhat tough about Hamas itself rather than spending all his time blaming the Israeli victims. "Make no mistake, Hamas leaders will pay for these crimes," he said in the statement. But where, pray tell, have been any similar threats from Biden to Hamas's leaders since last Oct. 7? More to the point, where has there been any action in line with such threats?

Nowhere. Unforgivably, pusillanimously: Nowhere.

For 11 months, five Americans have been held hostage by the Hamas swine. After this past weekend's murders, one is now dead. How many times has Biden even said their names in public? Three or four times in 11 months — maybe. I can't find more records than that. In his almost endlessly repeated denunciations of Netanyahu by name, Biden hasn't found anywhere near the same level of invective, until this weekend's anonymous "Hamas leaders will pay" blather, for the criminal refuse who ordered the raping, child-snuffing, demonic invasion of Israel on Oct. 7.

And yes, these Hamas creatures aren't human. They are demons. There is nothing human about the savagery and tortures meted out by Hamas during last fall's attack. Nothing.

Against such demons, there can be no negotiation. There can be only one tactic, one strategy, one answer: Snuff them out. Eliminate them. After so many decades of terrorism, Hamas must not be allowed to exist. Give Netanyahu a green light to destroy the terrorists and use American power, if possible, to save, or else to avenge, the American citizens Hamas has so demonically mistreated. Sometimes the only effective negotiation comes from the hot end of a gun.


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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    3 months ago
For 11 months, five Americans have been held hostage by the Hamas swine. After this past weekend's murders, one is now dead. How many times has Biden even said their names in public? Three or four times in 11 months — maybe. I can't find more records than that. In his almost endlessly repeated denunciations of Netanyahu by name, Biden hasn't found anywhere near the same level of invective, until this weekend's anonymous "Hamas leaders will pay" blather, for the criminal refuse who ordered the raping, child-snuffing, demonic invasion of Israel on Oct. 7.
 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1  Texan1211  replied to  GregTx @1    3 months ago

Why should we coddle Palestinians?

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    3 months ago

We shouldn't. Did we coddle the Germans during WW2?..

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.1.1    3 months ago

No, but we did not snuff them out either.

Nazism is making a comeback in old East Berlin.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.2    3 months ago
Nazism is making a comeback in old East Berlin.

their confidence has been bolstered by their maga brothers in the west ...

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.4  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.2    3 months ago
No, but we did not snuff them out either.

No we didn't.  What does that mean? Are you equating Hamas with Palestinians?

Nazism is making a comeback in old East Berlin.

Antisemitism seems to be making a comeback everywhere.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.1.4    3 months ago
No we didn't.  What does that mean?

Exactly what I typed.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.1.6  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.5    3 months ago

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Texan1211
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1.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    3 months ago
their confidence has been bolstered by their maga brothers in the west ..

That is an idiotic statement.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    3 months ago
"Why should we coddle Palestinians?"

You are absolutely right, Tex.  The Nazis surrendered to end its war against the west realizing they were defeated, to save the existence of its nation and its civilians.  Japan surrendered to end its war against the USA and the west realizing they were defeated, to save the existence of its nation and its civilians.  Notwithstanding that Hamas and Islamic Jihad cannot possibly win this war, their fighting forces already decimated, Hamas and Islamic Jihad will NEVER surrender even if every last innocent Gazan civilian whom Hamas governs and whose welfare is its responsibility will be killed and their nation totally destroyed beyond recovery.  Why?  Simple.  Three good reasons.  Firstly, their faith, their bible, the Koran, tells them to do it, to find and fight and kill the Jews,  and their Imams preach that The Day of Judgement will never come until they have fought the Jews and killed them and, secondly, the militants know that if they die fighting and killing Jews they will immediately be sent to The Garden of Allah where they will deflower their 72 virgins and enjoy fucking them for eternity.  Thirdly, the Muslim militants HAVE ALREADY WON THE WAR OF PUBLIC OPINION, THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WITH THEM, JUST AS THOSE NAIVE GULLIBLE AMERICAN PROTESTERS ARE, and, IMO some members of NT because if you are not for Israel having to do whatever it can to save itself you are with the terrorists no matter what you say otherwise.  The Muslim militants will NEVER surrender just as they have already proven that they will NEVER honour a cease-fire.  Their REAL war will NEVER be over until every Jew in the world has been eliminated and Israel will no longer exist i.e. "From the river to the sea".   So get a brain and realize the truth, everyone, or remain loser bleeding hearts.  I doubt that you cried about the civilians when Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo and Dresden were bombed.  But then the Nazis and the Japanese soldiers didn't hide themselves among the civilians, didn't use civilians as human shields, and the wore their uniforms.  But go ahead, put the IDF to the test of having to determine who is a militant and who is not, who supports the militants (like UNRWA has done) and who does not, because after all, you all know, "it's those JOOZ".   Am I bitter?  You're damned right I am. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.9  bugsy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.8    3 months ago

The Garden of Allah where they will deflower their 72 virgins and enjoy fucking them for eternity’

I’ve always wondered what they would do if they make it to this ‘garden’ and find the virgins are male.

Homosexuality in the Arab world is illegal and is punishable by death. Would they try to kill those virgins?

Asking for a friend

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  bugsy @1.1.9    3 months ago

I don't know about that, Bugsy, but I can tell you that if the terrorists are killed by a woman instead of a man they will NOT get their virgins.  So IMO it would be best if the Hamas militants are to be killed then they should be shot by a female IDF soldier.  In Israel, women must do their time in the military, same as the men. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    3 months ago

It appears a lot of progressives think that Netanyahu is the ultimate cause of all the alleged Palestinian aka Hamas deaths supposedly of women and child, who are routinely used as human shields. Many of them even think all Hamas wants is a two-state solution and be left alone to live in peace.

They have little to nothing to say about all the pro-Palestinian protests and riots going on here in the US and abroad, perhaps fearing an election day backlash by the Arab-American's community, many of whom reside in the swing state of Michigan.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3  Split Personality    3 months ago

Netanyahu has been under indictment for fraud and corruption for some time.  His initial reaction was to try to overhaul the judiciary which indicted him.  IMHO he is more evil than Putin.

Oct 7 ( if he wasn't involved ) has been a god send to Netanyahu, keeping him in charge, in an emergency situation while all else is suspended.  He is the one Making the Philadelphi Corridor a non negotiable.  Put UN  troops in there and be done with it.

He can get whatever is left of the hostages out and then resume the bombing.  He cannot afford to let this end.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @3    3 months ago
"He is the one Making the Philadelphi Corridor a non negotiable.  Put UN  troops in there and be done with it."

The Philadelphi Corridor IS non-negotiable.  It is the conduit for the weapons and ammunition Hamas gets smuggled to them through the tunnels that are (wink, wink) "watched" by Egypt.  Put the UN there?  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif    The UN is the biggest antisemitic organization in the world.  UNRWA has been aiding Hamas, and Israel has PROVEN it, but have you heard any kind of admission by Guterres?  Has the UN pressured Hamas at all?  Okay, SP, just who DO you support?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @3    3 months ago
"Put UN  troops in there and be done with it."

That would be about as effective as having boy scouts put out a campfire by pissing on it.

Seriously, they simply would side with the Hamas killers and kill Jews.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    3 months ago
That would be about as effective as having boy scouts put out a campfire by pissing on it.

Not even clear that the UN would send in troops.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    3 months ago

The tragedy of all this is set in stone now. Israel could win the war and gain generations of terrorists. They should have taken a more measured response, targeting those responsible for Oct 7th. Sure it would have taken a long time , but its not like peace in the middle east hasnt already taken a long time. 

Israel is a torn country,  between the bloodthirsty and the bleeding hearts . There will be calls to "wipe out " the Palestinians, its already happening. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 months ago

Three of the 6 planners of Oct 7 and the Hamas leaders are dead, yet the US State Department just released February 2024 indictments against them. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 months ago
but its not like peace in the middle east hasnt already taken a long time. 

6,000 years?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 months ago
There will be calls to "wipe out " the Palestinians, its already happening. 

For 75 years, the Palestinians have called to “wipe out” the Jews.

 
 

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