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Charged up

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  3 months ago  •  120 comments

Charged up
"It is interesting that most of these charges are eight years old. Why weren't they prosecuted and done then? Because the Democrats needed to have him win an election," Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-NY) said Thursday. "Now they don't want their guy in office. Because why? He stood up to President Biden."

Link to quote: Political timing of Biden DOJ indictment of Eric Adams questioned by critics (msn.com)

I have to admit that the curious case against NYC Mayor Eric Adams is backed up by some strong evidence. However so were possible cases against certain 2020 rioters and an FBI lawyer who falsified a FISA request. People have become skeptical about prosecutors, the FBI and the DOJ and they have plenty of reasons to be skeptical.

Yesterday prosecutors laid out the charges which include bribery, conspiracy, fraud, and soliciting donations from a foreign national. Adams spent years accepting free airline tickets, lavish overseas accommodation and illegal campaign donations from Turkey, prosecutors said. In exchange, they said he pushed officials to approve a new Turkish consulate. Adams says he won't quit despite calls from AOC and more recently the editorial board of the New York Times asking him to step down.

If Adams were to step down, the line of succession for mayor of the Big Apple means the office would temporarily go to Public Advocate Jumaane Williams. Williams would then have three days to set the date for a special election, and he would serve as mayor until the new mayor is elected. Williams is a surrogate for AOC and a self-described democrat Socialist.

Here is the problem for many people observing all of this:

The indictment of Adams comes against the backdrop of a DOJ that has wielded particularly aggressive law enforcement against some of the Democrats’ ideological and political enemies, such as former president  Donald Trump , anti-abortion advocates, and Jan. 6 rioters.

Adams drew the ire of some fellow Democrats when he began speaking out last year against the Biden-Harris administration's immigration policies amid a massive influx of migrants to New York City.

The Democratic mayor accused President Joe Biden of  abandoning the city  as it struggled to manage the consequences of the Biden-Harris border crisis. Adams was among the first prominent Democrats to criticize the Biden-Harris administration for its handling of immigration. His criticism shined a spotlight on a problem that had remained a sole Republican complaint for years, and it  helped create the bipartisan scrutiny  of immigration that has turned the matter into one of voters' top concerns this election.

Political timing of Biden DOJ indictment of Eric Adams questioned by critics (msn.com)

The moral of the story is that when the DOJ abuses its power to prosecute political enemies, it loses the trust of the American people.


In other news:

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Biden pledged another $8 Billion for the Ukraine including bombs for F-16 fighters and another Patriot missile battery. It followed a blatant political photo op presented by Volodymyr Zelensky who visited an ammo plant in PA surrounded by democrats.

U.S. intelligence is stressing the risk of allowing Ukraine to strike Russia with long-range Western missiles. Officials said it would likely bring retaliation without meaningfully improving Kyiv’s chances of success.

World leaders are urging a pause in fighting between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Benjamin Netanyahu will speak before the UN today.

The special counsel investigating Trump’s efforts to overturn the election submitted a sealed briefing outlining his findings. A Trump hating judge is expected to allow derogatory findings concerning Donald Trump to be released within the final month of a Presidential campaign. 

The F.D.A. approved the first new treatment for schizophrenia in decades.


 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Good morning.

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Sept 27 (Reuters) - Helene roared through Florida and Georgia states under darkness on Friday as one of the most powerful storms to hit the United States, killing one person, swamping neighborhoods and leaving more than 2 million homes and businesses  without power .

The Category 4 storm hit land around midnight, leaving a chaotic landscape of overturned boats in harbors, felled trees, stranded cars and flooded streets, according to images from Tampa, Naples and St. Petersburg on Florida's coast.

Helene, one of largest storms to hit US, brings chaos to Florida and Georgia | Reuters

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago

"The indictment of Adams comes against the backdrop of a DOJ that has wielded particularly aggressive law enforcement against some of the Democrats’ ideological and political enemies, such as former president  Donald Trump  , anti-abortion advocates, and Jan. 6 rioters.

Adams drew the ire of some fellow Democrats when he began speaking out last year against the Biden-Harris administration's immigration policies amid a massive influx of migrants to New York City.

The Democratic mayor accused President Joe Biden of   abandoning the city   as it struggled to manage the consequences of the Biden-Harris border crisis. Adams was among the first prominent Democrats to criticize the Biden-Harris administration for its handling of immigration. His criticism shined a spotlight on a problem that had remained a sole Republican complaint for years, and it   helped create the bipartisan scrutiny   of immigration that has turned the matter into one of voters' top concerns this election."

Political timing of Biden DOJ indictment of Eric Adams questioned by critics (msn.com)

Straight up bullshit.

They are not political enemies.  They're guilty of the crimes that they committed.  Has nothing to do with the Democrats.   Has everything to do with the former 'president' convicted felon rapist traitor being a traitor and trying to overturn an election.

Adams, Democrat or not, throw the book at him.  Just blaming someone else for their mis-deeds, sounds like a typical republicon.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    3 months ago

I think many people are beginning to realize who the Garland Justice Department and certain judges have used the law against political opponents.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 months ago

No.  Not true.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 months ago

why don't you address the elephant in the room? the DOJ has investigated, indicted, and will prosecute an elected democrat in a high office for assorted crimes he committed, while he is still serving. ... and equal justice for all.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    3 months ago
equal justice for all

Democrats do seem to clean house regularly and don't just cover over faults no matter how insignificant they seem. Remember Senator Frankin who got railroaded out of the Senate by Democrats asking him to step down because before he was a Senator he made a fellow comedian uncomfortable when kissing her in a USO skit and took a photo where he was several feet away but it looked like he was grabbing her boobs. That was enough to get the boot by Democrats. With Republicans, they're doing their best to get a 34 times convicted felon, 24 times accused sexual predator, accused child rapist, liar, conman and twice impeached former President who incited an attempted insurrection, elected President. A decade ago, no Republican would have ever thought such a thing could happen in their party, but now that the party has been completely hijacked by MAGAites, they have no shame, morals or reason and don't care who they vote for no matter how distasteful, even those that are convicted felons or those claiming to be 'black Nazi's', as long as they believe in their tiny little minds that they're "owning the libs".

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago
A Trump hating judge is expected to allow derogatory findings concerning Donald Trump to be released within the final month of a Presidential campaign

bummer ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    3 months ago

It would be so nice to for a republicon to get an October surprise like Hillary.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.1    3 months ago

There may be one coming right on the 1st of October.

It is called the Longshoreman's strike.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    3 months ago

'May' and so what?

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.3  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago

The moral of the story is that when the DOJ abuses its power to prosecute political enemies, it loses the trust of the American people.

So...  Are you saying that Adams shouldn't have been indicted?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  SteevieGee @1.3    3 months ago

No, I'm saying that Trump shouldn't have been indicted and I think appeals courts are going to back me up on that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    3 months ago

You're wrong.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) expedited a decision to allow Democrat megadonor George Soros to obtain a major stake in more than 200 radio stations — a move the House Oversight Committee is investigating amid concerns of "politicization" and interference in the 2024 presidential election. 

The FCC seemingly approved a deal that would permit  left-wing billionaire George Soros’  acquisition of more than 200 Audacy radio stations across America, irking a Republican commissioner who "objected."

House Oversight probes FCC's expedited approval of Soros purchase of 200+ radio stations ahead of election | Fox News

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Today Kamala Harris is expected to visit the border.

Said one Harris aid: She always wanted to meet Justin Trudeau.  (Btw that is a joke!)

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 months ago

She is to visit my town of Douglas, AZ this afternoon. Myself and probably a lot of the population of 13,000 will not show up. Why would I want to go see somebody I have zero intention of voting for who has 4 years to help do something about the border crisis and the people who live on the border and done absolutely nothing but throw legal border residents under the bus?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1    3 months ago

I agree with you. I think she made a mistake in going there now. Trump is already talking about it and it draws attention to an issue that the democrats can't win on.

I think she is going to lose Arizona btw.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    3 months ago

"I think she is going g to lose Arizona btw."

A lot of Arizonans share that opinion well. The only place she has much sway is in the major metropolitan and suburb areas of Tucson, Phoenix, and Flagstaff where a lot of the population centers are that are away from the immediate border. Those are the folks that managed to get Democrat Katie Hobbs elected as governor and now many are feeling buyer's remorse over that as she currently has a 36% disapproval rating that continues to drop.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.2    3 months ago
she currently has a 36% disapproval rating that continues to drop

... uh, huh?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.2    3 months ago

Correction to above. Katie Hobbs disapproval rating of 36% and that rate is rising not dropping.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

I'm seeing a weak plan this morning.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    3 months ago
 It followed a blatant political photo op presented by Volodymyr Zelensky who visited an ammo plant in PA surrounded by democrats.

But Victor Orban and Benni Netanyahu can visit Mar A lago and kiss the ring and they aren't blatant photo ops when Trump himself releases photos and videos?

Yes, weak is the correct word.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    3 months ago

Well, this morning I kind of need to respond, don't I?

That false comparison was tried the other day. A private meeting does not equate to a political show at an arms manufacturing plant in PA on the eve of an election.


visit Mar A lago and kiss the ring 

You do know that Zelensky intends to do exactly that today. I think he is beginning to realize that Trump might just win.


 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    3 months ago

Very weak sauce.  Typical hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    3 months ago

If it was weak sauce, he would have something to come back with.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    3 months ago

Weak, very weak.  All that needed to be said.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    3 months ago

So then Zelensky meeting with Trump is a campaign benefit to Trump.  I assume then you will condemn Trump for this just as you did Harris? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    3 months ago

When did Trump use government planes  to fly them to Mar-A-Lago?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    3 months ago

Good morning, John.


So then Zelensky meeting with Trump is a campaign benefit to Trump.

No, it was a private meeting (the media has barely mentioned it.) IMO the purpose is clearly Zelensky's concern that a President Trump might demand that Europe do the aiding for Ukraine rather than the US.


I assume then you will condemn Trump for this just as you did Harris? 

Why would I condemn either for a wrong committed by Zelensky?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    3 months ago
No, it was a private meeting

Uh, it hasnt happened yet.  You dont know what the media coverage will or wont be. 

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Trump says he will meet Zelensky despite campaign criticism
Donald Trump has agreed to a last-minute meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.6    3 months ago

Irrelevant. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    3 months ago
I think he is beginning to realize that Trump might just win.

It appears that A LOT of people are realizing that as the campaigns move along. 

You know when your candidate, who has been VP for the last 3.5 years says they "need to move past the failed policies that they have proven don't work" it's an indication they don't have much chance of winning.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.10    3 months ago

I think the Harris campaign's internal polling is raising concerns.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.11    3 months ago

It really says a lot about how they don't have the support they want everybody to think they have.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.12    3 months ago

They got everyone thinking Harris is well in the lead.

I don't think they have any idea of what is happening throughout the country.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.13    3 months ago

That's what happens when you gear everything toward the low IQ voters.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.15  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.13    3 months ago

Because MAGAs have fingers on the pulse of American popular cultural watching RT, Fox and News Max? Damn The Polls!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.14    3 months ago

I don't know hoe Biden or Harris can look people in the eye.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    3 months ago

This is what Vic calls a private meeting

800

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.17    3 months ago

Just what makes you think they hadn't already met in private and are fielding some questions? Well other than a possible TDS driver installed on your hard drive.

And Vic isn't the topic

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.17    3 months ago

Yes, it was.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.19    3 months ago

LOL.  Who cares if they met in a phone booth. That is not the point. Trump summoned press coverage, and more than that he posted it on his Truth Social. It is absurd to contend Trump didnt do this for political purposes. 

But carry on and the rest of us will keep making fun of MAGA nonsense. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.20    3 months ago

You can try, but you can't compare an apple to an orange.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.20    3 months ago

Got proof for that "Trump Summoned" shit?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.16    3 months ago

I don't think they could do it without some helping them.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.20    3 months ago
Who cares if they met in a phone booth.

Apparently you do or you wouldn't be crying about it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.23    3 months ago

That is correct. One is cognitively impaired and the other linguistically impaired.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.22    3 months ago

If it was a "private" meeting, why would there be reporters there unless Trump asked them to come? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.27  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.25    3 months ago

yes, so private

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.26    3 months ago

Ya think they may have been following Zelensky?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.26    3 months ago

"In his first face-to-face meeting with Volodymyr Zelenskyy in more than four years, Donald Trump said he’d work with Ukraine and Russia to find a solution that’s “good for both sides” to end the war and emphasized he has strong relationships with both the Ukrainian president and Russian President Vladimir Putin."

Trump, in Zelenskyy meeting, vows to negotiate Ukraine-Russia accord that’s ‘good for both sides’ - POLITICO

That is why Zelensky went there.

Here is the difference:

What was  Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky  doing at what sure  looked  like a partisan US political event this week?

And how did the White House let this happen?

Zelensky got flown into battleground Pennsylvania aboard a USAF C-17 plane on Tuesday; he then toured the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant accompanied by Gov. Josh Shapiro, Sen. Bob Casey, Rep. Matt Cartwright — the last two being active Democratic candidates.

And it looks like no GOP candidates got invited — trapping a foreign head of state into apparently taking sides in US domestic politics.

Yet Zelensky was guarded by Secret Service agents and driven around in Secret Service vehicles, adding more reek of impropriety: Who covered those expenses?

Someone in the Biden administration pulled a fast one: Pennsylvania has a fair number of anti-Russian Polish-Americans and others of Eastern European heritage who might be swayed by Zelensky’s seeming preference.

Zelensky's arms-factory visit reeks of partisan foreign-election interference (nypost.com)


Can you understand it, John?

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.30  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.29    3 months ago

I understand that your arguments are silly.  

and the NY Post has become a laughing stock over the last couple years. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.31  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.30    3 months ago

I'm not going to keep pointing to the same facts.

Either you get it or you don't.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.32  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.22    3 months ago

Do you actually think that Trump would have a meeting with Zelensky and not ensure that it be a campaign event covered by the media??

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.33  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.32    3 months ago

They believe a lot of strange things. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.34  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.28    3 months ago

In the screen shot Trump and Zelensky are walking up to meet the press.  Do you think the press showed up without Trump's approval? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.35  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.34    3 months ago

Where are they walking from do you suppose? Perhaps a PRIVATE MEETING? That was the whole point of this discussion now you want to change it to the press presence? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.36  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.26    3 months ago

My guess would be because, like the rest of the TDS crowd, they can't go a day without a "but Trump!!!!" fit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.35    3 months ago

The point of this discussion was whether or not Trump was using this meeting to promote his campaign. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.38  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.37    3 months ago

Of course he was.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.37    3 months ago

and what he would do for them if he re-gained the presidency

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.40  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.6    3 months ago

Trump currently has no authority to use the Diplomatic Protection Services or the US Air Mobility Command to protect or transport foreign dignitaries within the USA.

I have no doubt that if the normal services were extended to Orban or Netanyahu they would have chosen to use one of the C37A or C37B business class jets that the USAF operates out of Andrews AFB specifically used for foreign dignitaries as part of our Air Diplomacy Doctrine.

Why Zelensky was flown in a C17 transport plane may be because it was already headed there, but it would not my first choice to just fly for transportation from point A to point B.

All that being said, do you know for Imprint Sure that Biden didn't extend those typical courtesies to Orban or Netanyahu.  In the past Netanyahu has used various methods to reach the USA before taking advantage of the diplomatic courtesies available to him. In July Netanyahu flew the Israeli Boeing 767 ( Wing of Zion ) to the USA for the very first time but used US Air Force jets for smaller trips within the USA.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.41  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    3 months ago
Well, this morning I kind of need to respond, don't I?

Not for me, certainly.

That false comparison was tried the other day.

No idea what you are talking about.

A private meeting 

A private meeting immediately made public by candidate Trump, surely you jest

does not equate to a political show at an arms manufacturing plant in PA

In case you haven't noticed, Zelensky's like a rock star with world wide respect for standing up to the Russian tyranny.

on the eve of an election.

Hardly the eve of anything, 39 more days to go and as far as I know, both Republicans and Democrats cheer for Zelensky regardless of Trump, Biden or Harris.  This will be forgotten in 48 hours when Trump stubs his toe next.

visit Mar A lago and kiss the ring 
You do know that Zelensky intends to do exactly that today. I think he is beginning to realize that Trump might just win.

So you admire Zelensky for being a shrewd Jewish head of state?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.42  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.40    3 months ago
@OurShallowState
Watching Zelensky stand awkwardly next to Trump this morning while Trump "both sided" him and Putin, gave me a lump in my throat. This is a good day to restate - not many world leaders have defied BOTH Trump's extortive quid pro quo blackmail and Putin's murderous aggression. Zelensky is a rare hero.
 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.43  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.42    3 months ago

When i saw some of those photos I could not help but see a picture of a boxing match promotion between two people who really hate each other.

They look very awkward.

Just my first impression.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.44  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.42    3 months ago

I remember, was it the first impeachment? when Zelensky was sitting next to that scum essentially a hostage being asked to agree with the traitor

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.45  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.7    3 months ago
Why would I condemn either for a wrong committed by Zelensky?

An hour ago you said Zelensky was trapped in a possible political moment.

Which is it?  Was he trapped or did he commit some nefarious "wrong"?

What did Zelensky do?  Hijack a USAF C17?  Are you serious?

He wants to see Tobyhanna where they make his 155 shell casings.

This business is literally pulling up the County singlehandedly 

and oh, btw it's a blue-collar union town leaning towards Trump.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.46  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.42    3 months ago

Of course since Zelensky is in a life or death struggle with the weight of the world on his shoulders and the asshole next to him (who would hold the key to US resources if elected) is using Zelensky to excuse any wrongdoings in his impeachment.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.47  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.29    3 months ago
Yet Zelensky was guarded by Secret Service agents and driven around in Secret Service vehicles, adding more reek of impropriety: Who covered those expenses?

Better look up the DSS, Diplomatic Security Service, their mission, responsibilities, vehicles and air transportation.

They are required by law (Congress) to prevent international "events" on US soils to visiting heads of state and other dignitaries.

Can you understand it, John?

I do not believe John is the one having trouble understanding how governments work.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.48  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.31    3 months ago
I'm not going to keep pointing to the same facts.

Your interpretations of your reality, i.e., your facts seem more like your opinions and wishful thinking.

You can say the same to me or John but clearly you are not always correct.

Either you get it or you don't.

Right back at you.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1.49  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    3 months ago

Did they do it on the tax payer dime with secret service protection?

Zelensky didn't pay for his own airfare here; and government funds shouldn't be used for a Democrat photo op.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1.50  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.42    3 months ago

The faux John Wayne willing to fight to the very last Ukrainian standing; or US aid runs out- whichever happens first.

Fuck him and Democrats for supporting him.

Ukraine offers the US jack shit of nothing we can't supply for ourselves. 

But keep poking the Russian bear. Sooner or later Putin will be forced to poke back at NATO/US. It won't be with conventional weapons either.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.51  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.37    3 months ago

And only a fool would believe that the traitor could/would make a good deal for both sides for Christs' sake.  He would hand over Ukraine to putin.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.52  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.49    3 months ago
Did they do it on the tax payer dime with secret service protection?

I answered this in great detail Ronin.  Why are you asking questions which have already been pointed out to be

required by law ( Congress ).

A Federal law requires the protection and if necessary safe transportation of foreign dignitaries within the USA.

Security Service manpower and transportation is the responsibility of the Diplomatic Security Service which answers to the Department of State. Theu look and act exactly like the Secret Service.

Zelensky didn't pay for his own airfare here;

So what?  The Air Force Mobility Command shuttles US Congressmen and foreign dignitaries like Victor Orban and Benny Netanyahu all over the world to the tune of 108,000 miles annually.

and government funds shouldn't be used for a Democrat photo op.

So it looks like that happened ( at least to Republicans ) what can you do about it?  The area is deeply grateful for the contracts which have provided overtime and expansion. They also tend to vote for Trump.  The trip wasn't a secret so whatever Republicans should have shown up can probably share the embarrassment.

Monroe County also had several residents proudly convicted of multiple felonies from the January 6th "Capital Tour"/s

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.53  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.50    3 months ago
The faux John Wayne willing to fight to the very last Ukrainian standing; or US aid runs out- whichever happens first.

He who ignores History is bound to repeat the same mistakes

Fuck him and Democrats for supporting him.

Well how do you feel about all of the Republican Senators and House members who have passed all of this legislation giving or lending $ or military arms to Ukraine from 2022 to this week?

Ukraine offers the US jack shit of nothing we can't supply for ourselves. 

They offer character with a spine to deny the land grab from their much larger but seemingly incompetent neighbors.  They have already redefined modern land and sea battles conducted by drones.

But keep poking the Russian bear. Sooner or later Putin will be forced to poke back at NATO/US. It won't be with conventional weapons either.

Can you name the places where Russia has dramatically failed while threatening use of nukes?

I can.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

It is fashion week in Milan, Italy.

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Does anyone remember when new designer fashions actually looked good? 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    3 months ago

Your collection of polyester sweat suits will be retro any decade now.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @5.1    3 months ago
polyester sweat suits

What I really miss is Sharkskin suits and those light topcoats.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    3 months ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Melania Trump on Wednesday said she considers it miraculous that her husband survived the  two assassination attempts against him  and revealed that she was fuming after the FBI rummaged through her Florida home.

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In her first television interview in more than two years, the former first lady told  “Fox & Friends”  co-host Ainsley Earhardt that she struggled to comprehend what had happened when she saw her husband, former President Donald Trump, “on the floor” at the July 13 Butler, Pa., rally after he was grazed by a would-be assassin’s bullet. 

“I ran to the TV and I rewind[ed] it and I watched it,” Melania said of her immediate actions after being told by her chief of staff that her husband was OK but that there had been a shooting at the rally.  

“When I saw it … nobody really knew yet [what had happened],” she continued. “When you see him on the floor and you don’t know, you don’t know what really happened.” 

Melania Trump calls husband’s survival of two assassination attempts ‘miracles’ in rare TV interview  (nypost.com)

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago

How much did the former 'president' rapist have to pay her to show such concern?

I bet she is so disappointed.

lol

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    3 months ago

"Stand by your man!"

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    3 months ago

Probably for $100,000 per appearance, at least.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    3 months ago

She is a good woman.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    3 months ago

[] I mean, international fashion model.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago

After they hoisted his gargantuan girth from the ground after the attempt - you could see the traitor was fine - he raised his tiny little fist into a Nazi salute and said 'fight, fight, fight' as they hefted the whale off stage.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    3 months ago
he raised his tiny little fist into a Nazi salute

That's what it was alright / s

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    3 months ago

EXACTLY

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    3 months ago
After they hoisted his gargantuan girth from the ground after the attempt - you could see the traitor was fine - he raised his tiny little fist into a Nazi salute and said 'fight, fight, fight' as they hefted the whale off stage.

“You know, only consequential presidents get shot at,” - Donald J Trump

"The 20 July plot was a failed attempt to assassinate Adolf Hitler, the chancellor and leader of Nazi Germany, and overthrow the Nazi regime on 20 July 1944. The plotters were part of the German resistance, mainly composed of Wehrmacht officers."

"I'm not supposed to be here tonight. Not supposed to be here. Thank you. But I'm not. And I'll tell you. I stand before you in this arena only by the grace of Almighty God." - Donald J Trump

So, Donald is apparently as 'consequential' as Hitler and was apparently protected from assassination by the same God.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.3    3 months ago

Lincoln was consequential and so is Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.3    3 months ago

Sounds like Jim Jones -  there was an assassination 'attempt' on him and he healed himself.  Fake healings was a way he brought people into the Peoples Temple.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.4    3 months ago

Trump has done more for grift, dishonesty, criminal behavior and buffoonery than any president since Lincoln (and before too). 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.6    3 months ago

Lincoln genuinely loved America and I believe Trump does as well.

Obama resented this country, Biden hated Trump and Harris is a Marxist.

And the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Quiet
6.2.8  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    3 months ago

“Lincoln genuinely loved America and I believe Trump does as well.”

Implausible, impossible to equate the two.

Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address vs. ‘Gettysburg…wow.’ 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @6.2.8    3 months ago

It is really good to have you back.


Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address vs. ‘Gettysburg…wow.’ 

There was only one Abraham Lincoln.


Peace

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.9    3 months ago

Who can forget Trump's great "American Carnage" inauguration speech?  I think Lincoln's ghost vomited that day.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.2.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    3 months ago
Lincoln genuinely loved America and I believe Trump does as well.

I do believe Lincoln loved this country and the law of the land, our constitution. Trump, not so much.

Trump said of Sean Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one."

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” - Donald J Trump

Our founders are no doubt rolling in their graves over the prospect of a 34 times convicted felon with over two dozen accusations of sexual assault, known liar, man who cheated on all three of his wives, twice impeached, accused rapist and inciter of an attempted insurrection being so close to the white house a second time.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.2.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.3    3 months ago

So, Donald is apparently as 'consequential' as Hitler and was apparently protected from assassination by the same God.

Lol.  Good stuff. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.11    3 months ago
Our founders are no doubt rolling in their graves over the prospect of a 34 times convicted felon with over two dozen accusations of sexual assault, known liar, man who cheated on all three of his wives, twice impeached, accused rapist and inciter of an attempted insurrection being so close to the white house a second time.

Yes, but gasoline was cheaper when he was in.  jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Quiet
6.2.14  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.9    3 months ago

“There was only one Abraham Lincoln.”

Indeed.

But in your opinion… to equate the love of country, the understanding of the promise of the Union, and the desire to endure the sacrifices required to make it possible separates the two immeasurably. Saying Lincoln and trump both have a similar love of country is rather difficult to reconcile  

The former was and is remembered as an inspiration. The latter is and will always be remembered as a cautionary tale. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.5    3 months ago

Some folks claim the murderer/cult leader scum bag was a Democrat.  Such agnorance.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago
revealed that she was fuming after the FBI rummaged through her Florida home.

uh oh, an immigrant complicit in alleged criminal activities in the US. fortunately for her she's white ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.3    3 months ago

Poor dear.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.3    3 months ago

The suffering she has been through....legendary, like Job.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.2    3 months ago

or would the former 'president' be considered Job?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.3.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.2    3 months ago
The suffering she has been through....legendary, like Job.

If she ever had to give the tangerine tyrant a blow Job then I'd say her suffering might be as great as Job...

"Suddenly, a powerful wind swept in from the wilderness and hit the house on all sides. The house collapsed, and all your children are dead. I am the only one who escaped to tell you.” - Job 1:19

The first blow Job ever recorded...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
7  Nerm_L    3 months ago

In other news, New York Attorney General Letitia James has been smacked down by a Federal judge for deliberately abusing prosecutorial power to infringe the 1st Amendment rights of religious groups engaged in pro-life ministry.  

"Based on a careful application of the preliminary injunction factors, especially as they relate to Plaintiffs’  First Amendment  Free Speech claim, motion for a preliminary injunction is granted."  --  Judge John Sinatra Jr.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @7    3 months ago

Thank you, Sir.

I'll keep those on file

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    3 months ago

Right in the circular one where they belong.

Those pregnancy help ministries are the same ones that mislead the person from getting an abortion until it's too late and there is no such thing as reversing an abortion pill or an ectopic pregnancy.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Three men connected to Iran have been indicted in relation to a hacking plot against former President Donald Trump's campaign, the Department of Justice announced Friday.

Masoud Jalili, Seyyed Ali Aghamiri and Yasar Balaghi are the three suspects named in the case, according to a federal indictment unsealed Friday afternoon.

The indictment shows the trio are facing a long list of charges, including: Conspiracy to Obtain Information from a Protected Computer; Defraud and Obtain a Thing of Value; Commit Fraud Involving Authentication Features; Commit Aggravated Identity Theft; Commit Access Device Fraud; and Commit Wire Fraud While Falsely Registering Domains.

3 hackers with ties to Iran indicted in plot against Trump campaign: DOJ | Fox News

We are seeing a lot of election interference.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
8.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 months ago

Yes we are....................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1    3 months ago

Let us get his name right out in the open:

reporter Ken Klippenstein published hacked material to beat Trump.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    3 months ago

he should be charged with the same crimes that maga republicans are charged with when they spread foreign disinformation, even if they are members of congress... ... or a former president ...

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @8.1.2    3 months ago

Democrats never spread disinformation. jrSmiley_85_smiley_image.gif

Nor do they abuse government agencies to do so. Hunter Biden's laptop was a Russian hoax- signed by 51 current/former intelligence officials. FBI placing their people within social media companies to "Russian disinformation" by spewing their own disinformation.

Democrats love spreading Chines and Iranian disinformation. Almost as much as their politicians love allowing Chinese spies into key positions in their offices, assistants, or staff.

Also, Russia was playing both sides- and still is. Can't say the same about China and Iran.

Russian interference didn't end with Trump's election victory.

Shortly after the November vote, the Russians helped organize several pro-Trump rallies at the same time they organized anti-Trump protests, calling on people to object to the election results.

On November 12, the Russians helped coordinate an anti-Trump rally that drew as many as 25,000 people,   according to NBC News .

Fox News   reported   that Michael Moore, the prominent documentary filmmaker who strongly opposes Trump, attended that rally.

About a week later, the Russians organized a protest called "Charlotte Against Trump" in North Carolina.

These rallies represented just a fraction of the dozens of other   rallies that took place in cities across the US   after Trump's victory.

Take care of your own party's sheeple first when it comes to spreading disinformation.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @8.1.2    3 months ago

He should be charged with election interference along with Merrick Garland and many others within the democrat party.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 months ago

But, but it's the corrupt Biden DOJ that brought the case.

I thought they couldn't shoot straight, tie their own shoes or walk and chew gum at the same time?

Are they heroes or zeros?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

Helene  has reportedly killed at least 20 people and inflicted more than 4m power outages across the south-eastern US after crashing ashore in north-western Florida late on Thursday as a potent category 4 hurricane, according to officials.

The storm – which registered maximum sustained winds of 140mph (225km/h) – had weakened to a tropical storm over Georgia early on Friday, when residents whose communities experienced Helene’s peak effects more directly were only just beginning to fathom the recovery process ahead.

Hurricane Helene: number of reported deaths rising as storm hits south-eastern US (msn.com)

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 months ago

Wasn't jd planning a trip there the day before Helene hit?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.1    3 months ago

What does that mean?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    3 months ago

jd vance, that he's an idiot.

 
 

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